Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:44:42 +
n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:

 Recently I've found Yumex to be unreliable, getting stuck when trying to
 do updates. Yet the updates can be made using yum from the command line.
 Also it seems to take far too long to update the status of RPMs
 installed and available. Hopefully this will be fixed shortly and I can
 again feel confidence in yumex.

yumex went to the dark side and broke itself up into two highly
unreliable barely communicating pieces just like packagekit. I gave
up on it completely when it did that. I'll stick to the yum command line
now (where I can at least tell what the heck is going on during
updates).

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Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 07:03:07AM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:44:42 +
 n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
 
  Recently I've found Yumex to be unreliable, getting stuck when trying to
  do updates. Yet the updates can be made using yum from the command line.
  Also it seems to take far too long to update the status of RPMs
  installed and available. Hopefully this will be fixed shortly and I can
  again feel confidence in yumex.
 
 yumex went to the dark side and broke itself up into two highly
 unreliable barely communicating pieces just like packagekit. I gave
 up on it completely when it did that. I'll stick to the yum command line
 now (where I can at least tell what the heck is going on during
 updates).

The yum command line tool is great for anyone who wants to see more of
the guts of package management.  However, PackageKit is neither
unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it
most of the time in Fedora.  Yum also has bits that allow it to
communicate with PackageKit when run on the command line.  This system
works quite well.

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Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:16:11PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
  the guts of package management.  However, PackageKit is neither
  unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it
  most of the time in Fedora.  Yum also has bits that allow it to
  communicate with PackageKit when run on the command line.  This system
  works quite well.
 
 This one doesn't. Several times it has told me graphically about updates
 and then spewed nonsense errors when told to apply them. Running yum
 always works. Not figured out why but there is a real bug somewhere.

I'm sure Richard Hughes would be interested in hearing about it via a
bug filing, and could probably help figure out where to pull out the
appropriate info if it recurs.

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Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Alan Cox
 the guts of package management.  However, PackageKit is neither
 unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it
 most of the time in Fedora.  Yum also has bits that allow it to
 communicate with PackageKit when run on the command line.  This system
 works quite well.

This one doesn't. Several times it has told me graphically about updates
and then spewed nonsense errors when told to apply them. Running yum
always works. Not figured out why but there is a real bug somewhere.

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Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 01/07/2010 04:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:


The yum command line tool is great for anyone who wants to see more of
the guts of package management.  However, PackageKit is neither
unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it
most of the time in Fedora.

Well, ...

* ... I have occasionally seen PK notifying me about updates 
available, but when trying to download/install the updates, it told me 
0 updates available


* ... in recent weeks (last time today) I've seen it forgetting about 
its reboot notification (I was notified about updates being available, 
and updated, but haven't rebooted since then - Initially the reboot 
notification button appeared, meanwhile it's gone).

...


 Yum also has bits that allow it to
communicate with PackageKit when run on the command line.  This system
works quite well.
May-be for you ... I am not excited about PK. A nice idea, but (over-?) 
ladden with many (IMO) discussworthy/questionable features.


Ralf



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