Re: blue screen of death after logout
I suspect that the intel driver has a bug. ... and switching to an ATI 2600PRO card and using the radeonhd driver seems to have fixed the problem. So I'd say the intel driver has a bug. - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability. Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't working at a different resolution than the desktop... - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:08 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability. Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't working at a different resolution than the desktop... Could be because the X server is restarted. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:08 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability. Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't working at a different resolution than the desktop... Could be because the X server is restarted. Does the X server have to be restarted for every login? Or is that overkill by gdm? - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:08 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't working at a different resolution than the desktop... Did you set a resolution in your personal preferences? I had to, here, since the default that X picks is just plain wrong. It's all squished. I can live with that on the login greeter, so never bothered to change things for it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:05 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Does the X server have to be restarted for every login? I don't know about now, but it's been found to be advantageous to, in the past. X is big, and if it eats your memory as it runs, it can be a problem on systems that run continuously. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 22:56 +0930, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:05 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Does the X server have to be restarted for every login? I don't know about now, but it's been found to be advantageous to, in the past. X is big, and if it eats your memory as it runs, it can be a problem on systems that run continuously. There was a time when it didn't restart, then a few releases back it was decided that it should. I for one am happier the way it is now because my X server definitely leaks memory quite severely. I posted about this a while back (see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-September/msg00036.html) but got no reaction. The problem is quite solid and reproducible. I was holding off reporting it to BZ in case any of the pending updates fixed it but they haven't. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Does the X server have to be restarted for every login? I don't know about now, but it's been found to be advantageous to, in the past. X is big, and if it eats your memory as it runs, it can be a problem on systems that run continuously. There was a time when it didn't restart, then a few releases back it was decided that it should. I for one am happier the way it is now because Is this configurable? my X server definitely leaks memory quite severely. I posted about this a while back (see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-September/msg00036.html) but got no reaction. The problem is quite solid and reproducible. I was holding off reporting it to BZ in case any of the pending updates fixed it but they haven't. You should post your results to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They will get more serious attention there. - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 10:23 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Does the X server have to be restarted for every login? I don't know about now, but it's been found to be advantageous to, in the past. X is big, and if it eats your memory as it runs, it can be a problem on systems that run continuously. There was a time when it didn't restart, then a few releases back it was decided that it should. I for one am happier the way it is now because Is this configurable? I don't know, but if so it would be controlled by the display manager (which is the parent of X) so you would need to look there, i.e. config options for gdm or kdm. my X server definitely leaks memory quite severely. I posted about this a while back (see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-September/msg00036.html) but got no reaction. The problem is quite solid and reproducible. I was holding off reporting it to BZ in case any of the pending updates fixed it but they haven't. You should post your results to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They will get more serious attention there. OK, thanks. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
blue screen of death after logout
Hi all, I have an HP DC7700 with an ADD2/DVI card driving a 1600x1200 NEC Multisync monitor, using the stock Fedora 9 intel driver. Sometimes, after logging out of a Fedora 9 gnome session, the screen goes all blue. Bringing up a text session (Ctrl+F1) works OK, but X will not run properly after hitting Ctrl+F7 or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. Restarting the computer is the only solution for clearing the blue screen in X. I haven't found any useful log messages. It is an erratic problem. Has anyone else seen this? It's really annoying! Swapping ADD2 cards made no difference. Swapping monitors made no difference. Swapping the computer made no difference. i386 vs x86_64 made no difference. Installing xorg* from rawhide didn't work at all, too raw I guess... - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
I accumulate horror stories! I would NEVER buy an HP computer! Maybe a printer??? Take the thing back! I've had much luck with Dell refurbs! --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: blue screen of death after logout To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:30 AM Hi all, I have an HP DC7700 with an ADD2/DVI card driving a 1600x1200 NEC Multisync monitor, using the stock Fedora 9 intel driver. Sometimes, after logging out of a Fedora 9 gnome session, the screen goes all blue. Bringing up a text session (Ctrl+F1) works OK, but X will not run properly after hitting Ctrl+F7 or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. Restarting the computer is the only solution for clearing the blue screen in X. I haven't found any useful log messages. It is an erratic problem. Has anyone else seen this? It's really annoying! Swapping ADD2 cards made no difference. Swapping monitors made no difference. Swapping the computer made no difference. i386 vs x86_64 made no difference. Installing xorg* from rawhide didn't work at all, too raw I guess... - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Hi all, I have an HP DC7700 with an ADD2/DVI card driving a 1600x1200 NEC Multisync monitor, using the stock Fedora 9 intel driver. Sometimes, after logging out of a Fedora 9 gnome session, the screen goes all blue. Bringing up a text session (Ctrl+F1) works OK, but X will not run properly after hitting Ctrl+F7 or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. Restarting the computer is the only solution for clearing the blue screen in X. I haven't found any useful log messages. It is an erratic problem. Has anyone else seen this? It's really annoying! By any chance is your keyboard (or mouse) connected in some interesting way? Like wireless, through KVM switch, USB, or anything else other than PS/2 cable? I have seen somewhat similar problems with input static. And see below... Swapping ADD2 cards made no difference. Swapping monitors made no difference. Swapping the computer made no difference. i386 vs x86_64 made no difference. If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability. Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets wedged. Next time you see it try power cycling the monitor, even shutting down and pulling the plug to force a reboot might be needed. Installing xorg* from rawhide didn't work at all, too raw I guess... May be a configuration option in the build from source. - Mike -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
Sometimes, after logging out of a Fedora 9 gnome session, the screen goes all blue. Bringing up a text session (Ctrl+F1) works OK, but X By any chance is your keyboard (or mouse) connected in some interesting way? Like wireless, through KVM switch, USB, or anything else other than PS/2 cable? I have seen somewhat similar problems with input static. And see below... No, nothing like that. If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability. Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets wedged. Next time you see it try power cycling the monitor, even shutting down and pulling the plug to force a reboot might be needed. Hmm, I haven't actually tried a pull-the-plug on the monitor. (I did use the power switch, but maybe that isn't enough). I'll try it, thanks for the suggestion ... - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Sometimes, after logging out of a Fedora 9 gnome session, the screen goes all blue. Bringing up a text session (Ctrl+F1) works OK, but X By any chance is your keyboard (or mouse) connected in some interesting way? Like wireless, through KVM switch, USB, or anything else other than PS/2 cable? I have seen somewhat similar problems with input static. And see below... No, nothing like that. If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability. Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets wedged. Next time you see it try power cycling the monitor, even shutting down and pulling the plug to force a reboot might be needed. Hmm, I haven't actually tried a pull-the-plug on the monitor. (I did use the power switch, but maybe that isn't enough). I'll try it, thanks for the suggestion ... Mine occasionally change to reading the other inputs, if you have input selection you might try that. Or just another monitor, to see if the monitor is in any way the culprit. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
hi ! Sometimes, after logging out of a Fedora 9 gnome session, the screen goes all blue. Bringing up a text session (Ctrl+F1) works OK, but X will not run properly after hitting Ctrl+F7 or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. Restarting the computer is the only solution for clearing the blue screen in X. I have faced a similar problem where instead of blue screen i faced a black screen twice ..Both time it happened when i double clicked a no resposive firefox tab . rest of symptoms are same .i.e ctrl+f1 works and ctrl+f7 is just gives a blinking cursor . I haven't found any useful log messages. It is an erratic problem. same here -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
Mine occasionally change to reading the other inputs, if you have input selection you might try that. Or just another monitor, to see if the monitor is in any way the culprit. No, it's not that... the screen is blue, but if I move the mouse, I can see the gdm login dialog flicker by and disappear again (with incorrect sizing, etc). And the display pops up a status message saying that it is using the DVI input at 1600x1200, which is right. I tried NEC Multisync LCD2170 and LCD2190 monitors, and they both did the same thing, so it isn't a dud monitor. I suspect that the intel driver has a bug. - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: blue screen of death after logout
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect that the intel driver has a bug. Or an X race condition. I get problems with X restarting badly every once in a while (and this is across a very large number of different brand and chipset framebuffers.) In my case I can usually get it to fix itself by going to an ascii terminal (such as the ctl-alt-f1 one) and then back again with ctl-alt-f7. If that doesn't work the big hammer of ctl-alt-bs (or ctl-alt-del for some folks). -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
