Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Joachim Backes

When opening the following website:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


you will find on this page a small video pointing to 
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg


I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as shown 
in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does not succeed.


Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.

Kind regards

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[UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Ed Greshko
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Joachim Backes wrote:
 When opening the following website:

 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


 you will find on this page a small video pointing to
 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

 I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

 But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
 shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
 not succeed.

 Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.
I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

Ed



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Re: [UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Joachim Backes

On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:


Joachim Backes wrote:

When opening the following website:

 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


you will find on this page a small video pointing to
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
not succeed.

Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.

I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

Ed



Hi Ed,

having problems to play this file with mplayer:

mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote 
control.


Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg.
Seek failed


Exiting... (End of file)


Regards

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Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Ed Greshko
Joachim Backes wrote:
 On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

 Joachim Backes wrote:
 When opening the following website:

  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


 you will find on this page a small video pointing to
 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

 I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

 But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
 shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
 not succeed.

 Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.
 I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

 Ed


 Hi Ed,

 having problems to play this file with mplayer:

 mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
 MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
 mplayer: could not connect to socket
 mplayer: No such file or directory
 Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
 control.

 Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg.
 Seek failed


Strange  When I used the link to save the file the file name was
Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I move the file to the file name you have and it also played fine

Do you get...

[egres...@f12 misty]$ file Datei\:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg: Ogg data, Theora video




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Re: [solved] Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Joachim Backes

On 01/09/2010 12:01 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

Joachim Backes wrote:

On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:


Joachim Backes wrote:

When opening the following website:

  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


you will find on this page a small video pointing to
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
not succeed.

Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.

I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

Ed



Hi Ed,

having problems to play this file with mplayer:

mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
control.

Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg.
Seek failed



Strange  When I used the link to save the file the file name was
Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I move the file to the file name you have and it also played fine

Do you get...

[egres...@f12 misty]$ file Datei\:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg: Ogg data, Theora video






Hi Ed, my mistake:

I downloaded the wrong file (link to video and not the video itself). 
Please apologize for inconvenience.


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Re: [solved] Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Ed Greshko
Joachim,


 I downloaded the wrong file (link to video and not the video itself).
 Please apologize for inconvenience.
No problem  I enjoyed the video



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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
 so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
 Anaconda 12.47
 
 do you have an idea how to solve it?
 
 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.

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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/08/2010 12:04 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
 Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 
 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
 so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
 Anaconda 12.47

 do you have an idea how to solve it?

 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...
 
 Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
 and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
 quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
 boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.

That's a really i.nteresting and useful piece of advice that I haven't
heard before.  Thanks a lot, and this needs to be written up on a wall
somewhere.

Andrew.


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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
 Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
 so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
 Anaconda 12.47
 
 do you have an idea how to solve it?

 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

 Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
 and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
 quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
 boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.

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Try to use Xfce or LXDE fedora live spins : http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

run them in text mode and launch the installer.

-OR-

transfer the disk image directly to the hard disk.

i was able to run fedora Xfce live on an old p3 1ghz w/ 512mb ram.



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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Terry Polzin
On Friday 08 January 2010 07:04, Alan Cox wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +

 Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
  we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
   load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
   error, Anaconda 12.47
  
  do you have an idea how to solve it?
 
  Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
  Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

 Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
 and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
 quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
 boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.
I've tried installing XFCE on f12 lately, and just get a lovely background and 
nothing else.


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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:42:06PM +, jorge a secas wrote:
 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
 load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
 error, Anaconda 12.47

What is the error you get in text mode?

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[OT] help with mplayer option to replicate aplay -D option

2010-01-08 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
Hello,
I have a system based on Asus M4A785TD-V EVO mainboard that comes with
VIA VT1708S chip.
On this system I have both F11 x86_64 and F12 x86_64.
I'm trying to have dts streams working through optical plug that the mb has.

Some progress from F11 to F12, probably due to the alsa version into the kernel
(2.6.31.9-174.fc12 vs 2.6.30.10-105.fc11).
I formerly found another thread opened in 2009 in alsa-user or
alsa-devel where this command was referred as working through optical:

aplay -D iec958:CARD=SB dts_file.wav

- In my F11 this command gives no signal through the receiver

- But now in my F12 this commands succeeds!

My receiver has:
3 leds controlled by a button named mode: digital, pro logic, st

3 leds controlled by a button named input: line, optical, coaxial

When I set input button to optical and play the sample dts file with
the command above in F12, the mode led automatically switches to
digital, and a led named lock blinks and I get sound through
optical... hurra!
Also, the other leds referring the 5 channels switch on and I hear the
sound through all of the 5 speakers
This works even if pulseaudio is running, so that it is not the
problem (I suspected this when testing in F11)

Now the help required at this point: mplayer

I'm using the one provided by rpmfusion free repo
mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.x86_64

mplayer -ao alsa:spdif with a dts sample file gives no sound in F11
while it almost works in F12.
I use almost because when I play the same file as before, the mode led
doesn't go to digital, but to st.
I can then press the mode button having it switch to pro logic and
again to st, but not to digital
And the sound is not the same as with the aplay command.

Is there an option to give to mplayer to have it use the device that
in aplay is iec958:CARD=SB?
It seems I didn't find the right combination.
Or if it is possible to create an entry to add in asound.conf like

pcm.viaspdif {
 something
}

and use then mplayer with a commad such as

mplayer -ao alsa:viaspdif

Thanks in advance to anyone available to give any light

Gianluca

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help

2010-01-07 Thread jorge a secas

we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so 
we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 
12.47

do you have an idea how to solve it?

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 jorge a secas tala...@hotmail.com:
 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load,
 so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error,
 Anaconda 12.47

 do you have an idea how to solve it?


I don't know what that error is, but AFAIK the minimum amount of RAM
has changed to more than 256MB, so you won't be able to run the
graphical mode.

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RE: help

2010-01-07 Thread Joseph L. Casale
we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so 
we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 
12.47

do you have an idea how to solve it?

Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Paul
Hi,

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
 load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
 error, Anaconda 12.47

Which version of Fedora are you using and what is the video card in the
machines?

TTFN

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
  we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode 
  doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we 
  get the same error, Anaconda 12.47
 
 do you have an idea how to solve it?
 
 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is 
required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to 
use less memory?

OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.  

If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better 
support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different 
goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might 
want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Ralph Blach
On am embedded power pc project with 256 mb of ram, I ran fvwm, just 
fine.  This was with nfs root and a very old matrox video card.


I also compiled xdoom, madplay, and mozilla.

So this can be done, you will just need to install the basic machine in 
text mode, the install x, and fvwm along with the apps you want.


Chip.

Tony Nelson wrote:

On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:

we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode
doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we
get the same error, Anaconda 12.47

do you have an idea how to solve it?


Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...


Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is
required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to
use less memory?

OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.

If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better
support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different
goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might
want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.



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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Ralph Blach rcbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On am embedded power pc project with 256 mb of ram, I ran fvwm, just fine.
  This was with nfs root and a very old matrox video card.

 I also compiled xdoom, madplay, and mozilla.

 So this can be done, you will just need to install the basic machine in text
 mode, the install x, and fvwm along with the apps you want.

 Chip.

 Tony Nelson wrote:

 On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode
 doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we
 get the same error, Anaconda 12.47

 do you have an idea how to solve it?

 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

 Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is
 required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to
 use less memory?

 OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.

 If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better
 support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different
 goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might
 want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.


Try appending nomodeset to grub. You may also need to add vga=791
or vga=ask to ensure selection of a suitable display driver.

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Adding Classroom link to Get Help page

2010-01-06 Thread Sijis Aviles
I'm looking for feedback on this thought.

I was looking through at the Get Help page
(https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help) and i thought adding a
link/section about the the Fedora Classroom project
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Classroom), would be a
good addition to the page. Not only will it promote the great work
these volunteers are doing in teaching basics and advanced topics but
it is also an alternate form of getting/finding help by learning.

I haven't made an example of what would be added to the page. I just
want to know if people think this is a good or bad idea.

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Re: need help in contributing to se-linux policy development

2010-01-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 13:52 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
 2010/1/3 sai ganesh gane...@fedoraproject.org:
  hi,
  my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassador.i want to contribute to the
  development of se-linux policies.i am  a Redhat certified se-linux policy
  administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i
  contribute ?
  whom should i contact?
 
  i have already tried contacting the  owners of the se-linux packages.i
  didn't get any response.
 
 
 Perhaps you'd be better off sending a mail to the fedora-selinux-list:
 
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need help in contributing to se-linux policy development

2010-01-03 Thread sai ganesh
hi,
my name is sai. i am a
fedora-ambassadorhttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:ganesai.i
want to contribute to the development of se-linux policies.i am  a Redhat
certified se-linux policy administrator.i am well versed in development of
se-linux policies.how can i contribute ?
whom should i contact?

i have already tried contacting the  owners of the se-linux packages.i
didn't get any response.

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Re: need help in contributing to se-linux policy development

2010-01-03 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2010/1/3 sai ganesh gane...@fedoraproject.org:
 hi,
     my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassador.i want to contribute to the
 development of se-linux policies.i am  a Redhat certified se-linux policy
 administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i
 contribute ?
 whom should i contact?

 i have already tried contacting the  owners of the se-linux packages.i
 didn't get any response.


Perhaps you'd be better off sending a mail to the fedora-selinux-list:

https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:33:40 -0500
Mail Llists wrote:

   What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
 the vm ?

The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
boot f11, that would be the way to go.

The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way
is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when
it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local,
then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from
the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot
from the disk image and maybe it will be back.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 the vm ?
 
 The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
 via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
 machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
 boot f11, that would be the way to go.

  I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
.xml file stored somewhere ?

 I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful

 
 The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way
 is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when
 it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local,
 then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from
 the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot
 from the disk image and maybe it will be back.
 

 Yeh ok .. thanks for your help

 gene

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500
Mail Lists wrote:

   I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?

Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows
where :-). If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might
be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command
that way :-).

If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with
no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine
definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all
the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just
have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete
docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 10:50 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500
 Mail Lists wrote:
 
   I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?
 
 Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows
 where :-). 

  Was hoping someone aside from him/her might know!! I suspect its
buried in the registry somewhere.


If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might
 be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command
 that way :-).

 I dont have a disk image - i have rdiff-backup's.

 
 If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with
 no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine
 definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all
 the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just
 have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete
 docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org.

  Ug.
 

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists

  While I am still unable to find the original .xml files on the backup
- I did find a log file in root/.virt-manager which has the xml
definitions from when they were created.

  Then Tom's virsh define should now work if I copy the lines from log
to a .xml file.

   Thanks for help!

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Gene,

2010/1/3 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com:
 On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 the vm ?

 The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
 via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
 machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
 boot f11, that would be the way to go.

  I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?

  I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful


Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Suvayu Ali

Hi Gene,

On Sunday 03 January 2010 08:40 PM, Mail Lists wrote:

On 01/03/2010 10:43 PM, suvayu ali wrote:


Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.



  Holy smoke - you're right!!

  I never woulda guessed it would be in /etc ... who would have thunk!!!
Shouldn't it be in /var/lib or whatever?



Technically speaking, all settings stuff go to /etc and the xml files 
would probably be considered settings for the virtual machines.


I would suggest look into the virsh interactive command line to manage 
your virtual machines. Its way more efficient compared to the gui. To 
open one, try `virsh --connect qemu:///system'. You can see all the 
commands with `help' and more specifics about every commands with `help 
command'.



  Thank you!



I found this the hard way about a week back. Hope this helps you. And 
Happy New Year to all. :)

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help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Llists

  I have an image file with everything I need installed on it.

  It was running fine in f11 (has win xp in it).

  I intalled f12.

  What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
the vm ?

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Llists
On 01/03/2010 12:33 AM, Mail Llists wrote:
 
   I have an image file with everything I need installed on it.
 
   It was running fine in f11 (has win xp in it).
 
   I intalled f12.
 
   What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
 the vm ?
 

 I should add I can run the image fine from command line (qemu-kvm) - I
just dont know how to get it managed by virt-manager again like it was.

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ssh key help

2010-01-01 Thread Gregory Sieranski
Hi Guys,
I was having problems with my ssh key passphrase so I generated a new key. I
uploaded it to my account and was wondering if someone can help me to get it
on my fedorapeople's page and on publictest6?

Also, I am using the following commands to connect:

ssh gsieran...@publictest6.fedoraproject.org
ssh gsieran...@fedorapeople.org

Are these correct?

Thanks for the help,
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Re: ssh key help

2010-01-01 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2010-01-01 08:34:40 PM, Gregory Sieranski wrote:
 I was having problems with my ssh key passphrase so I generated a new key. I
 uploaded it to my account and was wondering if someone can help me to get it 
 on
 my fedorapeople's page and on publictest6?
I just looked checked on those machines, and your key appears to be there as of
about half an hour ago.  I don't see any login attempts from you in the logs 
though.

 Also, I am using the following commands to connect:
 
 ssh gsieran...@publictest6.fedoraproject.org
 ssh gsieran...@fedorapeople.org
 
 Are these correct?
Those look good to me.

Thanks,
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[fedora-electronic-lab] Help on boot

2009-12-23 Thread Avgerinos Bakalidis

Hey
I have a macbook intel with MAC OSX 10.6, and i want to run a live cd with the 
Fedora electronic lab because i am studying electronic engineering and i 
believe these programs are really great!I have downloaded the 
Fedora-11-i686-Live-FEL.iso file and i have try many times to create a live usb 
from the disk utility program.Every time when i run the live usb on my mac 
there is a problem on boot. Actually there is a command line and i do not know 
how to run the fedora.I hope you can help me...Thanks
  
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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:12:19 -0500,
  James Cassell fedoraproj...@cyberpear.com wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:57:16 -0500, Garry Williams
 gtwilli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 The grammar described in RFC 822 is surprisingly complex.
 http://www.ex-parrot.com/pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html
 
 yeah, no kidding, and so is a proper regex to match it.  I figured
 anything not a space or '@' followed by '@' followed by anything not
 a space, '@', or '' should catch most cases.

People aren't really using valid rfc822 addresses there anyway and you
want liberal matching.

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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-21 Thread James Cassell

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:53:42 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:




/((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s+[A-Za-z0-9\s]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/

I don't think this will catch a period in the comment part of the email
address (as people often do after initials). Also if anyone is using  
hyphenated
names, I don't think those will get picked up. Since those entries are  
utf-8,
you need to worry about nonascii letters in the name. I am not sure how  
those

collate compared to ascii letters, but it might be safer to use [^]+
(instead of [A-Za-z0-9\s]+)


You are correct.  Here's the improved version:
/((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s+[^]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/

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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-21 Thread James Cassell
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:57:16 -0500, Garry Williams gtwilli...@gmail.com  
wrote:




The grammar described in RFC 822 is surprisingly complex.
http://www.ex-parrot.com/pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html


yeah, no kidding, and so is a proper regex to match it.  I figured  
anything not a space or '@' followed by '@' followed by anything not a  
space, '@', or '' should catch most cases.


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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-21 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:07 -0500, James Cassell wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:53:42 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
 
 
  /((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s+[A-Za-z0-9\s]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/
  I don't think this will catch a period in the comment part of the email
  address (as people often do after initials). Also if anyone is using  
  hyphenated
  names, I don't think those will get picked up. Since those entries are  
  utf-8,
  you need to worry about nonascii letters in the name. I am not sure how  
  those
  collate compared to ascii letters, but it might be safer to use [^]+
  (instead of [A-Za-z0-9\s]+)
 
 You are correct.  Here's the improved version:
 /((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s+[^]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/
 
 -- 
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I'm having some difficulty applying this.  It's going into a perl file
thusly:

$logmsg =~ s|/((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|
May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s
+[^]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/|mg

But that gives me Unmatched ( in regex; marked by -- HERE in m/(( --
HERE  or something along those lines.

The added s|...|mg is coming from other lines in this script which
look like:

$logmsg =~ s|^\s*\d\d*-\d\d*-\d\d*\s*[^\n]*[^\n]*\s*$|* \n|mg;

so I'm sure I'm screwing something up when putting it in the script.

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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-21 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:

 I'm having some difficulty applying this.  It's going into a perl file
 thusly:

 $logmsg =~ s|/((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|
 May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s
 +[^]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/|mg

 But that gives me Unmatched ( in regex; marked by -- HERE in m/(( --
 HERE  or something along those lines.

 The added s|...|mg is coming from other lines in this script which
 look like:

 $logmsg =~ s|^\s*\d\d*-\d\d*-\d\d*\s*[^\n]*[^\n]*\s*$|* \n|mg;

 so I'm sure I'm screwing something up when putting it in the script.

You can't use | in the s|||mg command since it's used inside the
regex.  IIRC you should be able to use %: s%%%mg.

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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-21 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:40 -0600, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  I'm having some difficulty applying this.  It's going into a perl file
  thusly:
 
  $logmsg =~ s|/((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|
  May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s
  +[^]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/|mg
 
  But that gives me Unmatched ( in regex; marked by -- HERE in m/(( --
  HERE  or something along those lines.
 
  The added s|...|mg is coming from other lines in this script which
  look like:
 
  $logmsg =~ s|^\s*\d\d*-\d\d*-\d\d*\s*[^\n]*[^\n]*\s*$|* \n|mg;
 
  so I'm sure I'm screwing something up when putting it in the script.
 
 You can't use | in the s|||mg command since it's used inside the
 regex.  IIRC you should be able to use %: s%%%mg.
 

Ricky helped me get this regex going, thanks all!

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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com said:
 $logmsg =~ s|/((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|
 May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s
 +[^]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/|mg

The first character after the =~ s is the delimiter, so you are saying
search for /((Mon and replace it with Tues? and then Wed... are
arguments.  The regexp as sent (delimited with /) was just a match,
not a search/replace.

I don't know the code; what exactly are you trying to do here?  Strip
out date/email lines?

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dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-20 Thread Jesse Keating
The kernel module is full of changelogs that start with:

Thu Dec 17 2009 Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com 2.6.32.1-11

of course the date, name, email and revision will change, but the format
is the same.  This data is not really necessary in git, as we have all
of that already, and it makes shortlog rather useless.

parsecvs has a feature that allows one to filter out parts of log
messages, and it requires a perl regex to find the lines to strip out.
I'm no regex hacker, but I bet some of you are.  Can somebody please
write me a regex that will catch the above line, and others like it?
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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-20 Thread James Cassell
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:01:06 -0500, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com  
wrote:



The kernel module is full of changelogs that start with:

Thu Dec 17 2009 Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com 2.6.32.1-11

of course the date, name, email and revision will change, but the format
is the same.  This data is not really necessary in git, as we have all
of that already, and it makes shortlog rather useless.

parsecvs has a feature that allows one to filter out parts of log
messages, and it requires a perl regex to find the lines to strip out.
I'm no regex hacker, but I bet some of you are.  Can somebody please
write me a regex that will catch the above line, and others like it?
Thanks!



This should do it:
/((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s+[A-Za-z0-9\s]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/


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Re: dist-git help wanted: write me a regex!

2009-12-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 00:25:06 -0500,
  James Cassell fedoraproj...@cyberpear.com wrote:
 
 This should do it:
 /((Mon|Tues?|Wed|Thu(rs?)?|Fri|Sat|Sun)\s+(Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|June?|July?|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec)\s+[0-3]?[0-9]\s+(19|20)[0-9][0-9]\s+[A-Za-z0-9\s]+[...@]+@[^\s@]+\s+2.[4-6].[0-9.-]+\s*)/

I don't think this will catch a period in the comment part of the email
address (as people often do after initials). Also if anyone is using hyphenated
names, I don't think those will get picked up. Since those entries are utf-8,
you need to worry about nonascii letters in the name. I am not sure how those
collate compared to ascii letters, but it might be safer to use [^]+
(instead of [A-Za-z0-9\s]+) since I think being more liberal in what get's
matched is less likely to match something you don't want than being picky
is going to not match something (either that has a typo or unusual characters
in it).

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

2009-12-20 Thread Steven W. Orr
On 12/19/09 18:28, quoth Tony Nelson:
 On 09-12-19 15:27:48, Globe Trotter wrote:
 --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com wrote:
  ...
 So... the tcsh rpm is installed?
$ rpm -qa tcsh
 tcsh-6.15-8.fc12

 Yes, it is!
 
 Possibly some of the shell scripts used by GDM (or whatever) don't 
 specify the interpreter with a shebang line.  If they're written to 
 assume bash and bash is the default they'll work, but not if tcsh is 
 the default.  If adding a first line of #!/bin/bash fixes the 
 problem, file a bug against the relevant package.  (Usually you can 
 find the package with `rpm -qf /path/to/file`.)  Good luck.
 

I agree that a bug should be filed if that is the problem, but it wouldn't
hurt to also read that old classic

Csh Programming Considered Harmful
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/

Even if it's a bug, hundreds of reasons to not use tcsh in the first place
might make it easier to switch over. I'll even help you rewrite your old login
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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

2009-12-19 Thread Globe Trotter


--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from  
 bash to tcsh
 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
 fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 2:43 PM
 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM,
 Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I installed F12 from the LXDE spin and it came up all
 right. However, upon changing my login shell from bash to
 tcsh, I can no longer log in using the graphical desktop.
 Specifically I get the message:
 
  Failed to execute login command
 
  After a day's worth of troubleshooting, I have tracked
 it down to changing the login shell from bash to tcsh. Any
 suggestions as to how i can have tcsh as well as be able to
 log in?
 
  Btw, I am using slim because I am using the LXDE
 spin.
 
  Any help is much appreciated!!
 
  Best wishes,
  T
 
 So... the tcsh rpm is installed?
    $ rpm -qa tcsh

tcsh-6.15-8.fc12

Yes, it is!

Best wishes,
T

 


  

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

2009-12-19 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-12-19 15:27:48, Globe Trotter wrote:
 --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
  So... the tcsh rpm is installed?
     $ rpm -qa tcsh
 
 tcsh-6.15-8.fc12
 
 Yes, it is!

Possibly some of the shell scripts used by GDM (or whatever) don't 
specify the interpreter with a shebang line.  If they're written to 
assume bash and bash is the default they'll work, but not if tcsh is 
the default.  If adding a first line of #!/bin/bash fixes the 
problem, file a bug against the relevant package.  (Usually you can 
find the package with `rpm -qf /path/to/file`.)  Good luck.

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Debarshi Ray
 What happens now? Not much I guess, as the list archive obfuscates email
 [...]
 that give you a feeling of accomplishment?

Just trying to point out the futility of trying to avoid publishing
your Fedora ID. It took me less than a minute to find it without
asking any human. One might even put up a web page with your Fedora
email address all over it.

Cheers,
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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 04:35:07PM +0200, Debarshi Ray wrote:
  What happens now? Not much I guess, as the list archive obfuscates email
  [...]
  that give you a feeling of accomplishment?
 
 Just trying to point out the futility of trying to avoid publishing
 your Fedora ID. It took me less than a minute to find it without
 asking any human. One might even put up a web page with your Fedora
 email address all over it.

He did not wrote about his Fedora ID, but about publishing the e-mail
address not obfuscated. Also he clearly stated that he wishes that
nobody publishes it obfuscated. If you just want to point out, that you
can research the address, you still do not need to post it. For me it
was only rude behaviour.

Regards
Till


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please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

2009-12-18 Thread Globe Trotter
Hi,

I installed F12 from the LXDE spin and it came up all right. However, upon 
changing my login shell from bash to tcsh, I can no longer log in using the 
graphical desktop. Specifically I get the message: 

Failed to execute login command

After a day's worth of troubleshooting, I have tracked it down to changing the 
login shell from bash to tcsh. Any suggestions as to how i can have tcsh as 
well as be able to log in?

Btw, I am using slim because I am using the LXDE spin.

Any help is much appreciated!!

Best wishes,
T


  

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

2009-12-18 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I installed F12 from the LXDE spin and it came up all right. However, upon 
 changing my login shell from bash to tcsh, I can no longer log in using the 
 graphical desktop. Specifically I get the message:

 Failed to execute login command

 After a day's worth of troubleshooting, I have tracked it down to changing 
 the login shell from bash to tcsh. Any suggestions as to how i can have tcsh 
 as well as be able to log in?

 Btw, I am using slim because I am using the LXDE spin.

 Any help is much appreciated!!

 Best wishes,
 T

So... the tcsh rpm is installed?
   $ rpm -qa tcsh

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Re: please help! -- F12: login disallowed upon changing shell from bash to tcsh

2009-12-18 Thread Phil Meyer

On 12/18/2009 11:56 AM, Globe Trotter wrote:

Hi,

I installed F12 from the LXDE spin and it came up all right. However, upon 
changing my login shell from bash to tcsh, I can no longer log in using the 
graphical desktop. Specifically I get the message:

Failed to execute login command

After a day's worth of troubleshooting, I have tracked it down to changing the 
login shell from bash to tcsh. Any suggestions as to how i can have tcsh as 
well as be able to log in?

Btw, I am using slim because I am using the LXDE spin.

Any help is much appreciated!!

Best wishes,
T




   


tcsh is no longer installed by default.

From the graphical login screen:

CNTRLALTF2

Log in as root:

# yum install tcsh
#exit

CNTRLALTF1

You should now be able to login.

Or use: System/Administration/Add-Remove Software
if you have another user available.

Good Luck!

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help on messages in log

2009-12-17 Thread François Patte
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Hash: SHA1

Bonsoir,

Here is the first line of the boot sequence:

[Firmware Warn]: MTRR: CPU 0: SYSCFG[MtrrFixDramModEn] not cleared by BIOS

And the second line is the same for CPU 1

After that, boot is OK.

What does it mean?

running f12.

I had to add nomodeset to the kernel line in grub to prevent a
scramble screen when people log on.


Thanks for lights.

F.P.


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Simon Schneebeli
Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, 
Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my 
wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I 
just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree 
that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope 
that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon

On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Aaron Gray
The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
firewall configuration ?

Aaron


2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org

 Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
 Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
 wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
 don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
 probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
 time this evening to work more on it.

 Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
 wireless that blocs some connections.

 Simon


 On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

 On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

 May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
 lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

 To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some
 of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a
 added
 router, computer


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RE: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Ishmael Chibvuri
Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..


_

The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
firewall configuration ?

 

Aaron

 

2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org

Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
time this evening to work more on it.

Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
wireless that blocs some connections.

Simon



On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of
these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added
router, computer


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Simon Schneebeli

No difference with or without firewall. But I discovered something else:

Here's what happens:
- I start my computer and connect to the wireless: Firefox and 
Thunderbird can not connect to the wireless but Opera can.
- I plug in the Ethernet cable. Now all connections work, with or 
without firewall.
- I deconnect the cable and connect again through the wireless. Now both 
programs do connect properly.


???

Simon

On 12/16/2009 01:39 PM, Ishmael Chibvuri wrote:


Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..

_

The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your 
firewall configuration ?


Aaron

2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org 
mailto:simon.schneeb...@okko.org


Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not 
Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer 
and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web 
work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But 
I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. 
I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon



On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

router, computer


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Aaron Gray
2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org

 No difference with or without firewall. But I discovered something else:

 Here's what happens:
 - I start my computer and connect to the wireless: Firefox and Thunderbird
 can not connect to the wireless but Opera can.
 - I plug in the Ethernet cable. Now all connections work, with or without
 firewall.
 - I deconnect the cable and connect again through the wireless. Now both
 programs do connect properly.

 ???


Sounds like a DNS problem again.

Aaron


 Simon


 On 12/16/2009 01:39 PM, Ishmael Chibvuri wrote:


 Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..


 _

 The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
 firewall configuration ?

 Aaron

 2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org mailto:
 simon.schneeb...@okko.org


 Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
 Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
 wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
 don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
 probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
 time this evening to work more on it.

 Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
 wireless that blocs some connections.

 Simon



 On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

 On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

 May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
 lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

 To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some
 of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a
 added
 router, computer


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Jim

On 12/16/2009 07:16 AM, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not 
Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer 
and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web 
work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But 
I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. 
I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon

On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

router, computer




If what you say is that you can get some websites but not others ??

You may have a IPV6 problem.

If you use KDE see if Konqueror has the same problem as Firefox.

I have attached some instructions, follow the instructions on firefox , 
near bottom of page.


If you have problems with Konqueror or performing a rpm -ivh http:// *
follow all of the instructions.
1.  Q: Networking (or DNS) seems really slow and fails often (Updated 2 January 
2009)
A: If Fedora 10's networking seems slow or you get frequent network connection 
failures (when other Fedoras or other OSes were working just fine on your 
machine), then you're probably hitting this bug.

Here's how you can work around it:

   1. Open a Terminal.
   2. Become root:

  su -
   3. Make sure that the dnsmasq program is installed (it usually is, by 
default, in Fedora 10):

  rpm -q dnsmasq

  If that says package dnsmasq is not installed, then you need to install 
dnsmasq, by running the following command:

  yum install dnsmasq
   4. Now, you have to find out which network interface your machine is using:

  route -n

  You'll see some output that looks like this:

  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 
0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0

  The eth0 there (the furthest bottom-right text in the output) is the name 
of the network interface I'm using. Yours might be eth1 or something totally 
different. Just remember it for the next step.
   5. Now create a file called /etc/dhclient-your network interface.conf. For 
example, if your network interface is eth0, the file would be called 
/etc/dhclient-eth0.conf.

  You can create the file with this command (assuming your network 
interface is eth0):

  nano /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf

  Then make this the only line in the file:

  prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;

  And then save the file and close it (Ctrl-X then Y).

  If you have both a wireless and a wired network connection, you will have 
to do this step once for each of them.
   6. Now start dnsmasq:

  service dnsmasq start

  And make sure that it will start every time your computer starts:

  chkconfig dnsmasq on
   7. Now restart your network connection:

  service NetworkManager restart

And now things should be as fast as normal again. You might have to restart the 
programs that you're running for them to pick up the changes that 
NetworkManager made when it restarted.



2.  * IPv6
You might notice that your browsing through Firefox is a little slow on Fedora 
10. This is because Firefox 3 has enabled by default IPv6 which causes Firefox 
to first resolve an IPv6 address and after the connection fails it switches to 
IPv4. To change this setting type:

about:config


and in Filter box type:

network.dns.disableIPv6


Right click on it, select Toggle and change its value to true. Restart Firefox 
and you are ready! 




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Re: Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.

2009-12-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 08:18 -0500, William W. Austin wrote:
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry if this sounds glib, but the suggestion that comes to mind is
install F12. FC3 and FC4 are ancient systems, long past their
shelflife and completely unsupported (including for security updates).

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread R. G. Newbury


Simon wrote:
  As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always 
quite

  happy. So let's give it a try:
  snip
  My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
  Simon
  Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the
  universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!

My! I sure feel like if I'm doing something wrong:

Not really. Your ifconfig output shows that your machine knows it has 2 
interfaces, and it appears that both are connecting and getting IP 
addresses from the router (unless you have set them both static: you did 
not say. But wired works, so now there is just the wireless setup!


[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# python setup.py install
Using init file ('/etc/rc.d/init.d/', 'init/redhat/wicd')
Using pid path wicd.pid
Language support for es_CL es_NI zh_TW no sr nl el es_ES ml uk vi he fi
nl_NL ca pt eu eo ka de_DE fr it ko zh_HK lv es bg gl ru_RU fa sk es_VE
de ro da pt_BR fr_CA et kk sl es_AR cs lt ja ru sv hu te ar_EG zh_CN id
tr es_MX pl it_IT es_GT
running install
error: invalid Python installation: unable to open
/usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

You are not *doing* anything wrong, but something *IS* wrong.
Check that you have a /usr/lib/python2.6 folder. It should exist, as 
should the config subfolder. Does on my F12 install.

If it does not, then
'yum install python python-devel'
And re-try the wicd install.

The other route is to go back to NetworkManager. It is already installed 
and should work (in its inimitable obscure fashion).


Since you do not have wicd in the way, then:
chkconfig wpa_supplicant on
chkconfig NetworkManager on

Disconnect the wired connection and re-boot. Then 'system-config-network'
and check that the wireless card is properly defined. NM should find the 
wlan0 interface, and connect.

As noted before, this works best if encryption is turned off at this stage.
(I cannot remember if network services are supposed to on, or off. But 
NetworkManager deals with that)

You are almost there!

Geoff











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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread William Case
Hi Simon;

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 23:27 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 On 12/14/2009 11:02 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
  Simon wrote:
 

I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first
boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
and pretty much everything is golden.

He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for
eth0.

Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Axel Thimm
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 09:09:32PM +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 
 On 12/14/2009 08:52 PM, Craig White wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
 As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
 happy. So let's give it a try:
 
 I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/
 
 It tells me the following:
 python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686
 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)
 
 So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/
 
 Test Transaction Errors:   file
 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from
 install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
 package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386

urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 is not part of a Fedora repo, browsing the net
indicates that this is from opensuse?

You should uninstall urwid, point yum to ATrpms and just yum install
wicd (if you want to use wicd).

 Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
 is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
 until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Actually this is about mixing Fedora and opensuse, there third party
repo usage just uncovered this.

 My experience with wicd on Ubuntu was actually really good, so if
 there is an easy way to do it on my computer and if furthermore this
 could help solve my problem, I'd be more than willing to give it a
 try.
 
 Simon
 

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Mikkel
On 12/15/2009 09:23 AM, William Case wrote:
 
 I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
 knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
 post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
 the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first
 boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
 and pretty much everything is golden.
 
 He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
 could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for
 eth0.
 
 Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.
 
Well, one way would be to run System -- Preferences -- Network
Connections and edit the interface. There are drop-down menus under
both IPv4 and IPv6 to enable DHCP.
If you have the network applet, you can also right click on it, and
pick Edit Connections.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Simon Andrews

On 11/12/2009 23:27, Simon Schneebeli wrote:

Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Simon Schneebeli writes:

Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection
with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired
connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme
manage to establish a connection.


Define ping works.

If I type at the command line ping google.com it gets an answer...


OK.  If you're getting a positive response from that command then your 
basic network connection, DNS and routing must all be working.  There 
isn't much more to go wrong.


What do you get if you type:

wget www.google.com

into a shell?

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Simon Schneebeli


On 12/15/2009 04:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:

On 12/15/2009 09:23 AM, William Case wrote:
   

I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first
boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
and pretty much everything is golden.

He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for
eth0.

Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.

 

Well, one way would be to run System --  Preferences --  Network
Connections and edit the interface. There are drop-down menus under
both IPv4 and IPv6 to enable DHCP.
If you have the network applet, you can also right click on it, and
pick Edit Connections.

Mikkel
   


I've actually checked that. It's properly set and always was. The 
problem must be elsewhere. Astonishingly I have the same problem when I 
start from the live CD, and on the other hand I didn't have this problem 
when connecting to the wireless at my brothers, nor on Starbucks today. 
That's why my guess is that it must be somewhere between my computer and 
the wireless modem. I just didn't had time to play around with the modem 
configuration. That's the next step in my plan. I just need to get some 
sleep from time to time ;-)


Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Mikkel
On 12/15/2009 03:32 PM, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 
 I've actually checked that. It's properly set and always was. The
 problem must be elsewhere. Astonishingly I have the same problem when I
 start from the live CD, and on the other hand I didn't have this problem
 when connecting to the wireless at my brothers, nor on Starbucks today.
 That's why my guess is that it must be somewhere between my computer and
 the wireless modem. I just didn't had time to play around with the modem
 configuration. That's the next step in my plan. I just need to get some
 sleep from time to time ;-)
 
 Simon
 
This sounds more like a problem in your wireless settings. What type
of wireless security are you using on your wireless modem? It sounds
like your brother has an open system. Starbucks would also have an
open system. It may require something more after you can access the
Internet, but connecting to the wireless access point does not
require your system to have a wireless key before hand.

One other thing that can bite you when using WEP is if your system
will not give an IP address until you establish an encrypted
connection. I have not seen the option in Network Manager for the
iwconfig key restricted parameter. (Though you can add it.)

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Robert Collard
May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it 
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Jim

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
   
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# 
from a added

router, computer

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Re: parsecvs repo? [Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-14 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jim Meyering j...@meyering.net writes:

 Does anyone know of a public and *maintained* repository for parsecvs?
 I've looked numerous times (as recently as a few weeks ago), and tried
 to contact Keith Packard, hoping he would still be maintaining it,
 but have had no luck.

I've recently pushed a few changes to a fork of the tree @ repo.or.cz.

Andreas.

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Re: Request for help maintaining packages while away.

2009-12-14 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good Alaskan Morning!

 In two weeks I'm going to be in Antarctica for a month+ and I'm
 looking for other packagers to step in for me and maintain my packages
 and prepare them for F13.  I'm not exactly sure what my time and
 bandwidth access will be so I'm planning for the worst and that I'll
 be reliably off the grid through mid Feb.   Please let me know if you
 can take on a co-maintainer/primary maintainer role for any of the
 packges and see them through the next couple of months.


Okay I've processed all the pending packagedb requests that have come
in so far.  Thanks for the response.  I'll try to push development
tree builds for the latest releases of all the packages I own in the
next week. But no promises. Watch your commit emails.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread simon . schneebeli

Quoting Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com:


On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:

 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
 - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf
 - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf.
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home.
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon


 Nope...

 Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
 which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.

I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this
morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.

I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS
numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.

Thanks anyway for your help.

Simon




Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1?

Did you say you were using a DSL router?

Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1?

You also say everything works fine at your brother's place.

Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic?
Can you check your DSL router configuration, please?




I just tried with the live CD where I had the same problem.

Furthermore I got the right DNS which is 195.186.1.111 and  
195.186.4.111. And yes, I'm using a wireless DSL router (Motorola).  
What could be the configuration problem with the DSL router? I never  
change anything there and used it without any difficulties previously  
on Ubuntu. But in the same time it somehow seams obvious that it has  
to be linked to that since at my brother's place (with another service  
provider) everything worked fine.



Simon
(getting desperate).


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread R. G. Newbury

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:



At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
programs I needed and install the latest updates.



RPM: Couldn't resolve host

To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
seconds like the server doesn't answer...


What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.


Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s).

Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions 
on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number 
of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not 
over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely 
possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. 
Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.


Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 
192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try 
settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will 
not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.


At a console enter:
'service NetWorkManager stop'
'service wpa_supplicant stop'
'service ip6tables stop'

With a WIRED connection ONLY:
'service iptables restart'
'service network restart'

This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.


Then:
'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.

If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your 
router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. 
If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of 
the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)


If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this 
case).


If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to 
a DHCP IP scheme).


And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
(at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works 
at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and 
control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired 
connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this 
it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC 
address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
request from the laptop etc.


Geoff












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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 December 2009 16:58:36 R. G. Newbury wrote:
 At a console enter:
 'service NetWorkManager stop'

I guess that should read 'service NetworkManager stop'. Note the small w 
compared to the capital W. These things are case-sensitive, and can lead to 
problems if one is not careful. :-)

HTH, :-)
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 18:01 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 On Monday 14 December 2009 16:58:36 R. G. Newbury wrote:
  At a console enter:
  'service NetWorkManager stop'
 
 I guess that should read 'service NetworkManager stop'. Note the small w 
 compared to the capital W. These things are case-sensitive, and can lead to 
 problems if one is not careful. :-)

rant
I hate this kind of nonsense. Either the basic utilities (including yum,
rpm, repoquery etc.) should be case-insensitive (which wouldn't be Unixy
enough for some people) or the packages should use only lower-case
names. Lower case is good enough for the frakking *kernel* ferchrissake.
What makes NM so special?
/rant

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Rick Sewill
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 11:58 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote: 
  On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 
  At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
  problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
  programs I needed and install the latest updates.
 
  RPM: Couldn't resolve host
 
  To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
  seconds like the server doesn't answer...
  
  What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
  NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
  connection is offline.
 
 Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s).
 
 Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions 
 on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number 
 of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not 
 over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely 
 possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. 
 Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.
 
 Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
 DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 
 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try 
 settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will 
 not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.
 
 At a console enter:
 'service NetWorkManager stop'
 'service wpa_supplicant stop'
 'service ip6tables stop'
 
 With a WIRED connection ONLY:
 'service iptables restart'
 'service network restart'
 
 This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
 in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.
 
 Then:
 'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
 inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
 If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.
 
 If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your 
 router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. 
 If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of 
 the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)
 
 If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
 the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
 network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this 
 case).
 
 If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
 externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
 connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to 
 a DHCP IP scheme).
 
 And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
 (at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works 
 at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and 
 control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired 
 connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this 
 it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC 
 address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
 request from the laptop etc.
 
 Geoff

Also, please do netstat -rn to see your routing table on your PC.
You indicated you could ping an Internet address,
when you type ping www.xxx.yyy.zzz, which led me to believe 
you have a default route pointing to your router, but I would check.
You may have other routes in your routing table, which explicitly 
route certain IP address ranges to the wrong gateway IP address.
netstat -rn should give us the needed routing table information.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli


On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:



At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
programs I needed and install the latest updates.



RPM: Couldn't resolve host

To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after 
some

seconds like the server doesn't answer...


What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.


Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS 
server(s).


Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access 
restrictions on your router, and in particular that you have not 
limited the number of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, 
and that you are not over that limit. (Been *there*...real 
hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility given that you got things 
to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO security settings 
enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.


Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network 
(ie 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to 
try settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This 
will not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.


At a console enter:
'service NetWorkManager stop'
'service wpa_supplicant stop'
'service ip6tables stop'

With a WIRED connection ONLY:
'service iptables restart'
'service network restart'

This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.


Then:
'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.

If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever 
your router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping 
yahoo.com'. If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the 
configuration of the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in 
Firefox)


If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for 
this case).


If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert 
to a DHCP IP scheme).


And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
(at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It 
works at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup 
and control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and 
wired connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. 
For this it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the 
MAC address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
request from the laptop etc.


Geoff


Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added 
the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work.


Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
  inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
  Memory:fe20-fe22

And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt 
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 
eth0



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite 
happy. So let's give it a try:


I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/

It tells me the following:
python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 
(/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)


So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/

Test Transaction Errors:   file 
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from 
install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from 
package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
  file

Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread H. Willstrand
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Simon Schneebeli
simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

 On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

 On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
 problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
 programs I needed and install the latest updates.

 RPM: Couldn't resolve host

 To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
 seconds like the server doesn't answer...

 What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
 NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
 connection is offline.

 Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS
 server(s).

 Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions
 on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number of
 DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not over
 that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility
 given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO
 security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.

 Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS
 server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie
 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try
 settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will not
 help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.

 At a console enter:
 'service NetWorkManager stop'
 'service wpa_supplicant stop'
 'service ip6tables stop'

 With a WIRED connection ONLY:
 'service iptables restart'
 'service network restart'

 This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want in
 the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.

 Then:
 'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
 inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
 If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.

 If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your
 router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. If
 that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of the
 programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)

 If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely the
 wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the network
 setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this case).

 If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping
 externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired
 connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to a
 DHCP IP scheme).

 And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd (at
 wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works at least
 as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and control structure
 and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired connections, such as
 you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this it helps if you use
 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC address and delivers an
 address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP request from the laptop etc.

 Geoff

 Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added the
 DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work.

 Here's what I get with ifconfig.

 [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
 eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
          inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
          RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
          Memory:fe20-fe22

 And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

 [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt
 Iface
 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 eth0
 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 wlan0

This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0

Please stop one of the network cards to verify.

//HW

 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0
 eth0


 As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
 happy. So let's give it a try:

 I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/

 It tells me the following:
 python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686
 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)

 So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12

Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

 As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite 
 happy. So let's give it a try:
 
 I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/
 
 It tells me the following:
 python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 
 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)
 
 So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/
 
 Test Transaction Errors:   file 
 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from 
 install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from 
 package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.py from install 
 of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.pyc from install 
 of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.py from install of 
 python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.pyc from install 
 of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/curses_display.py from 
 install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from 
 package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file...
 
 My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...

Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Craig


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli

Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
  inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
  Memory:fe20-fe22

And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
 

This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0

Please stop one of the network cards to verify.

//HW

   

0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0



Um. I work with a labtop computer, so I do have only one network card. ??

Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli


On 12/14/2009 08:52 PM, Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
   

On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
 
   

As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:

I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/

It tells me the following:
python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686
(/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)

So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/

Test Transaction Errors:   file
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from
install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.py from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.pyc from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.py from install of
python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.pyc from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/curses_display.py from
install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file...

My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
 


Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Craig


   
My experience with wicd on Ubuntu was actually really good, so if there 
is an easy way to do it on my computer and if furthermore this could 
help solve my problem, I'd be more than willing to give it a try.


Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread H. Willstrand
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Simon Schneebeli
simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 Here's what I get with ifconfig.

 [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
 eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
          inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
          RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
          Memory:fe20-fe22

 And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

 [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt
 Iface
 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 eth0
 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 wlan0


 This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0

 Please stop one of the network cards to verify.

 //HW



 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0
 eth0

 Um. I work with a labtop computer, so I do have only one network card. ??


According to the netstat -rn command you have wireless (wlan0) and LAN
(eth0), both using the same network 192.168.1.0.
Stop one of the cards via NetworkManager and see if Firefox starts to work..

//HW
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread R. G. Newbury

Simon wrote:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
  problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the 
additional

  programs I needed and install the latest updates.


Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added
the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't 
work.


I presume you actually meant the *wireless connection stll doesn't work.

Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
   inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
   RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
   Memory:fe20-fe22

We really need the full output of ifconfig. What does 'ifconfig wlan0' 
   give?


And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0

*This looks fine!* ifconfig should show Up addresses for BOTH 
interfaces. If it does not, then we have one sort of problem. If it 
does, but you cannot connect wirelessly, then it means another sort of 
problem, probably related to security or encryption.



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:
snip
My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make  make install. That avoids the sort of 
conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure the 
wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 'chkconfig wicd 
on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop icon for wicd-client, 
and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then add 
MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff





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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli


On 12/14/2009 11:02 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

Simon wrote:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
  problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the 
additional

  programs I needed and install the latest updates.


Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added
the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't 
work.


I presume you actually meant the *wireless connection stll doesn't work.

Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
   inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  
Mask:255.255.255.0

   inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
   RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
   Memory:fe20-fe22

We really need the full output of ifconfig. What does 'ifconfig wlan0' 
   give?

[si...@sangam ~]$ ifconfig wlan0
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:E8:82:76:33
  inet addr:192.168.1.34  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::213:e8ff:fe82:7633/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:6453 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:108 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:429676 (419.6 KiB)  TX bytes:13316 (13.0 KiB)

[si...@sangam ~]$



And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0

*This looks fine!* ifconfig should show Up addresses for BOTH 
interfaces. If it does not, then we have one sort of problem. If it 
does, but you cannot connect wirelessly, then it means another sort of 
problem, probably related to security or encryption.



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:
snip
My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make  make install. That avoids the sort 
of conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure 
the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 
'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop 
icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then 
add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff







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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:
snip
My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make  make install. That avoids the sort 
of conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure 
the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 
'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop 
icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then 
add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff



My! I sure feel like if I'm doing something wrong:

[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# python setup.py install
Using init file ('/etc/rc.d/init.d/', 'init/redhat/wicd')
Using pid path wicd.pid
Language support for es_CL es_NI zh_TW no sr nl el es_ES ml uk vi he fi 
nl_NL ca pt eu eo ka de_DE fr it ko zh_HK lv es bg gl ru_RU fa sk es_VE 
de ro da pt_BR fr_CA et kk sl es_AR cs lt ja ru sv hu te ar_EG zh_CN id 
tr es_MX pl it_IT es_GT

running install
error: invalid Python installation: unable to open 
/usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]#



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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/12/14 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org:
 /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

[...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum provides /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

python-devel-2.6.2-2.fc12.i686 : The libraries and header files needed for
   : Python development.
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

You'll need to install this package first ^

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Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.

2009-12-14 Thread William W. Austin


I had to replace a disk (the one with all of the home directories on  
it) on an FC3 box, and so I bought a new drive (particulars  
unimportant).


To make a long story short, I decided to put FC4 on this box, and so I  
installed the new drive and put the root filesystem on it.  I still  
have the old FC3 root drive and can boot to either for comparison...


Under FC3, I have no network problems that I can detect; however, under  
FC4 there are two distinct (related? no idea) problems which have  
eluded me.  I have tried looking up both of these in the archives, but  
have had no luck (some similar issues, but nothing exactly like either  
of these unless I missed them).


Problem 1: network card goes to sleep.

This machine has 2 network cards, both on-board.  The 1GB card L(Intel  
82540EM) goes to the smartswitch to tolk to the local network, and does  
not show any problems.
The other card (nVidia nForce2) is a 100MB card and talks to the DSL  
modem.  Periodically I cannot connect to the internet at all - or even  
ping the DSL modem.  This happens irregularly but about 5-10 times/day.  
If I reboot back to FC3, the problem does not occur.  Network  
configurations between the two (FC3/FC4) are as identical as I can make  
them.  The first few times the problem occurs, sometimes retarting  
networking works, but eventually a full sys reboot is the only thing  
which works.


Problem 2: slow local network.

Under FC3 throughput on the LOCAL network (1GB lan) is very fast.   
Under FC4, the best I have seen is ONE transfer of about 1.2 MB/s - and  
throughput drops to as low as 50-75KB/s at times.  Again, this does not  
occur under FC3 but does under FC4.  Again the same setup as nearly as  
I can make it.  No workaround found so far.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.

2009-12-14 Thread Jatin K

On 02/27/2006 06:48 PM, William W. Austin wrote:


I had to replace a disk (the one with all of the home directories on 
it) on an FC3 box, and so I bought a new drive (particulars unimportant).


To make a long story short, I decided to put FC4 on this box, and so I 
installed the new drive and put the root filesystem on it.  I still 
have the old FC3 root drive and can boot to either for comparison...


Under FC3, I have no network problems that I can detect; however, 
under FC4 there are two distinct (related? no idea) problems which 
have eluded me.  I have tried looking up both of these in the 
archives, but have had no luck (some similar issues, but nothing 
exactly like either of these unless I missed them).


Problem 1: network card goes to sleep.

This machine has 2 network cards, both on-board.  The 1GB card L(Intel 
82540EM) goes to the smartswitch to tolk to the local network, and 
does not show any problems.
The other card (nVidia nForce2) is a 100MB card and talks to the DSL 
modem.  Periodically I cannot connect to the internet at all - or even 
ping the DSL modem.  This happens irregularly but about 5-10 
times/day. If I reboot back to FC3, the problem does not occur.  
Network configurations between the two (FC3/FC4) are as identical as I 
can make them.  The first few times the problem occurs, sometimes 
retarting networking works, but eventually a full sys reboot is the 
only thing which works.


Problem 2: slow local network.

Under FC3 throughput on the LOCAL network (1GB lan) is very fast.  
Under FC4, the best I have seen is ONE transfer of about 1.2 MB/s - 
and throughput drops to as low as 50-75KB/s at times.  Again, this 
does not occur under FC3 but does under FC4.  Again the same setup as 
nearly as I can make it.  No workaround found so far.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Question is asked in Feb 2006 ...!! :-)

Dear Mr. William

please check the date of you computer

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Re: Network problems on new FC4 box - please help.

2009-12-14 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 12/15/2009 02:25 AM, Jatin K wrote:
 Question is asked in Feb 2006 ...!! :-)

Which would have been the correct timeframe for moving an FC3 system to
FC4.  At that time FC5 was the new release.  I know, I had a system
which had to jump from FC3 to FC5 after FC3 hit EOL.

 Dear Mr. William
 
 please check the date of you computer

Stranger things have happened.  Perhaps it was lost in a machine that
has only recently been rebootedand its sendmail queue finally got
flushed?

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-13 Thread Christopher Brown
2009/12/12 Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com:
 And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address
 somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about
 it.

 As for me, I don't mind publishing my real email address but I would prefer
 not to have my fedoraproject.org alias published where the spammers can find
 it. I don't particularly like having forwarding aliases created for me, but 
 if
 you have to give me one then please don't publish it.

 Here you go:
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org

 Now what?

 Cheers,
 Debarshi

I think that is unnecessarily untagonistic.

This is a non-issue. Both my fpo and non-fpo are published regularly
in commits and whatnot and I receive about 1 spam per week. But then I
have gmail. :)


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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-13 Thread Björn Persson
Christopher Brown wrote:
 This is a non-issue.

It may be a non-issue to you but not to Seth Vidal obviously.

 Both my fpo and non-fpo are published regularly
 in commits and whatnot and I receive about 1 spam per week. But then I
 have gmail. :)

Well I have received zero spams since April when I flipped the switch to 
enforcing mode (except when the spam blocker crashed; there seems to be a race 
condition that I haven't tracked down yet.)

Björn Persson


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I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

2009-12-13 Thread linux guy
I've been running F11 pretty much since it came out.  It worked well.

I upgraded to F12 earlier this evening.  For whatever reason it will not
start an X session.  I think the problem is that I was using the nvidia
driver and kmod can't get an internet connection due to wifi not finding a
network connection but when I change my xorg.conf file to use nouveau it
doesn't work either.

I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't have a
wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer a wifi
connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my SSID, etc,  but how do
I set it from the command line ?

Thanks
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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

2009-12-13 Thread François Patte
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Le 13/12/2009 09:34, linux guy a écrit :
 I've been running F11 pretty much since it came out.  It worked well.
  
 I upgraded to F12 earlier this evening.  For whatever reason it will not
 start an X session.  I think the problem is that I was using the nvidia
 driver and kmod can't get an internet connection due to wifi not finding
 a network connection but when I change my xorg.conf file to use nouveau
 it doesn't work either.
  
 I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't
 have a wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer
 a wifi connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my
 SSID, etc,  but how do I set it from the command line ?

man iwconfig


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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

2009-12-13 Thread linux guy
iwconfig lets me set the various parameters of an interface, but how do I
start that interface such that the router assigns it an IP and DNS works ?

Thanks.
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 23:48 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
 ... but that announcement was for 11:00 UTC 12/12/2009 - which is
 still well before your message saying it started in 20 minutes (which

You're quite right. I was reading 11:00 as pm (it was late :-)

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

2009-12-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 01:59 -0700, linux guy wrote:
 iwconfig lets me set the various parameters of an interface, but how
 do I start that interface such that the router assigns it an IP and
 DNS works ?

NM can be configured to activate on boot, without waiting for a login,
so system-config-network from a console ought to do it. I say ought to
because when I tried it I got a completely different dialogue from the
usual one, which is disconcerting. I've no idea why that should be.

poc


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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

2009-12-13 Thread Julian Aloofi
 I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't have a
 wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer a wifi
 connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my SSID, etc,  but how do
 I set it from the command line ?

If you have it installed by any chance, cnetworkmanager does a great job for 
this. If not, you could just yumdownloader cnetworkmanager on another 
machine and copy the RPM over with an USB stick and install it, all 
dependencies should be met when you installed a normal desktop system.

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

2009-12-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:48 +0100, Julian Aloofi wrote:
  I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't have a
  wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer a wifi
  connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my SSID, etc,  but how do
  I set it from the command line ?
 
 If you have it installed by any chance, cnetworkmanager does a great job for 
 this. If not, you could just yumdownloader cnetworkmanager on another 
 machine and copy the RPM over with an USB stick and install it, all 
 dependencies should be met when you installed a normal desktop system.

Excellent. I wish I known about this earlier. The idea that a
fundamental component of the system should be controlled primarily via a
GUI has always bothered me. It's just not the Unix Way (tm).

poc

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Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)

2009-12-13 Thread linux guy
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Julian Aloofi 
julian.fedorali...@googlemail.com wrote:

  I think i could rectify the situation if I ran yum update but I don't
 have a
  wifi connection from the console session. How does one administer a wifi
  connection from the command line in F12 ?  I know my SSID, etc,  but how
 do
  I set it from the command line ?

 If you have it installed by any chance, cnetworkmanager does a great job
 for
 this. If not, you could just yumdownloader cnetworkmanager on another
 machine and copy the RPM over with an USB stick and install it, all
 dependencies should be met when you installed a normal desktop system.


I installed cnetwork manager and I can't get a wifi connection for some
reason.  I invoke cnetworkmanager -C myISSD options and hangs.

So I got out a network cable and plugged into my router.   I can ping the
router the router just fine (192.168.0.1) but as soon as I try to reach
anything beyond that (ping www.google.com) I get an unknown host error.
Why and how do I fix that ?  cnetworkmanager shows eth0 to up activated.

Thanks
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