Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] launch anaconda kickstart from running livecd
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Patrice Guay patrice.g...@nanotechnologies.qc.ca wrote: Peter Scheie wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Is the 'liveinst' utility needed in order to install the image from the livecd to the hard drive? Or is it needed because anaconda isn't built to start an installation from an already running system (such as a running livecd session)? I assume it is the former, as the webpage says as much, but I wanted verify that I wasn't misunderstanding the requirements. (This *does* start drifting toward being an anaconda question, but it's all within the context of the livecd session.) This is definitely a question related to anaconda. The liveinst utility was added to anaconda in order to support installation from a LiveCD. You should ask the package maintainers what are the limitations of their utility and its normal usage. pedantic liveinst is purely a shell script to kick off anaconda with the various arguments for install off of a live system mode /pedantic Installing a live image using anaconda requires the anaconda changes that went into Fedora 8 to do so -- you're not going to be able to get away with easily getting those running on a CentOS 5 system. You could hack up something to do the basic bits, but any of the, eg, help with partitioning you get or otherwise isn't going to be there. - Jeremy -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] launch anaconda kickstart from running livecd
On 10/15/2009 08:03 PM, Peter Scheie wrote: From a running Centos liveCD (minimal) I want to launch anaconda with a kickstart file. Right now we build a small ISO using isolinux that loads the kernel and points it to the kickstart file on an HTTP server (ks=http://blah.blah.blah/ks.cfg). But I want to gather some info from the user and test some networking connections before launching anaconda, thus the need for the liveCD. I've got anaconda included in the livecd and I can call it, but when I try to pass --kickstart=http://blah.blah.blah/ks.cfg, it says 'no method specified'. So, I added -m http:// with a path to the repos we use with our regular installer, but while anaconda starts, it starts asking questions about language, keyboard, etc., meaning it's not reading the kickstart file. This seems more like an anaconda question then a livecd question, don't you think? -- Jeroen -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] launch anaconda kickstart from running livecd
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 08:57 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: On 10/15/2009 08:03 PM, Peter Scheie wrote: From a running Centos liveCD (minimal) I want to launch anaconda with a kickstart file. Right now we build a small ISO using isolinux that loads the kernel and points it to the kickstart file on an HTTP server (ks=http://blah.blah.blah/ks.cfg). But I want to gather some info from the user and test some networking connections before launching anaconda, thus the need for the liveCD. I've got anaconda included in the livecd and I can call it, but when I try to pass --kickstart=http://blah.blah.blah/ks.cfg, it says 'no method specified'. So, I added -m http:// with a path to the repos we use with our regular installer, but while anaconda starts, it starts asking questions about language, keyboard, etc., meaning it's not reading the kickstart file. This seems more like an anaconda question then a livecd question, don't you think? -- Jeroen Good point. I got confused by this page, https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/InstallToHardDrive (the fault lies with me, not the page) which says the anaconda included in CentOS 5 does not support installing to a hard disk from the livecd, and to do so requires a newer version of anaconda than is available for CentOS. Why is that? What is it about the anaconda in the stock CentOS 5 that doesn't support installing from the livecd to the hard drive? My case is probably different than what the above page is addressing, but I'm trying to understand how it all works. Thanks. Peter -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] launch anaconda kickstart from running livecd
Peter Scheie wrote: Good point. I got confused by this page, https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/InstallToHardDrive (the fault lies with me, not the page) which says the anaconda included in CentOS 5 does not support installing to a hard disk from the livecd, and to do so requires a newer version of anaconda than is available for CentOS. Why is that? What is it about the anaconda in the stock CentOS 5 that doesn't support installing from the livecd to the hard drive? My case is probably different than what the above page is addressing, but I'm trying to understand how it all works. Thanks. The page you are referencing explains the following: the CentOS 5 anaconda package does not include the liveinst utility. This utility is used to install an OS directly from the LiveCD in a way similar to the normal installation of a system (with anaconda in graphical or text mode). -- Patrice -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] launch anaconda kickstart from running livecd
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 09:05 -0400, Patrice Guay wrote: Peter Scheie wrote: Good point. I got confused by this page, https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/InstallToHardDrive (the fault lies with me, not the page) which says the anaconda included in CentOS 5 does not support installing to a hard disk from the livecd, and to do so requires a newer version of anaconda than is available for CentOS. Why is that? What is it about the anaconda in the stock CentOS 5 that doesn't support installing from the livecd to the hard drive? My case is probably different than what the above page is addressing, but I'm trying to understand how it all works. Thanks. The page you are referencing explains the following: the CentOS 5 anaconda package does not include the liveinst utility. This utility is used to install an OS directly from the LiveCD in a way similar to the normal installation of a system (with anaconda in graphical or text mode). -- Patrice Thanks for the clarification. Is the 'liveinst' utility needed in order to install the image from the livecd to the hard drive? Or is it needed because anaconda isn't built to start an installation from an already running system (such as a running livecd session)? I assume it is the former, as the webpage says as much, but I wanted verify that I wasn't misunderstanding the requirements. (This *does* start drifting toward being an anaconda question, but it's all within the context of the livecd session.) If the 'liveinst' utility is only needed for installing the image from the CD to the system, then that suggests that I don't need the newer anaconda, as I just want to launch a 'normal' installation-via-http using a kickstart file on the http server or embeded on the livecd. Am I correct? -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] launch anaconda kickstart from running livecd
Peter Scheie wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Is the 'liveinst' utility needed in order to install the image from the livecd to the hard drive? Or is it needed because anaconda isn't built to start an installation from an already running system (such as a running livecd session)? I assume it is the former, as the webpage says as much, but I wanted verify that I wasn't misunderstanding the requirements. (This *does* start drifting toward being an anaconda question, but it's all within the context of the livecd session.) This is definitely a question related to anaconda. The liveinst utility was added to anaconda in order to support installation from a LiveCD. You should ask the package maintainers what are the limitations of their utility and its normal usage. -- Patrice -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] launch anaconda kickstart from running livecd
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 09:10:57 -0500, Peter Scheie peter.sch...@visionshareinc.com wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Is the 'liveinst' utility needed in order to install the image from the livecd to the hard drive? Or is it needed because anaconda isn't built to start an installation from an already running system (such as a running livecd session)? I assume it is the former, as the webpage says as much, but I wanted verify that I wasn't misunderstanding the requirements. (This *does* start drifting toward being an anaconda question, but it's all within the context of the livecd session.) If the 'liveinst' utility is only needed for installing the image from the CD to the system, then that suggests that I don't need the newer anaconda, as I just want to launch a 'normal' installation-via-http using a kickstart file on the http server or embeded on the livecd. Am I correct? Live CDs don't install using repos with rpms; they copy over the filesystems. So normal anaconda is not going to get what it needs from the Live CD media. I haven't tried doing http installs using a live CD, as I typically use the netinst/boot isos for doing that. So I don't know if everything needed for doing that is on the Live CD. -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
