Re: [Fwd: H.O.R.S.E. OT- cats in great need!]

2005-10-10 Thread gblane
Says New York State, but no town listed that I can see.  These forwards can 
be hard to read...


Gloria

At 01:55 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

I'm obviously WAY behind on email.  Where is this located?

t

--- Steph E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Original Message 
 Subject:  H.O.R.S.E. OT- cats in great need!
 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:55:39 -
 From: bonzomountainmusic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 hi,  i am crossposting this for a friend (kim)  what a sad story for
 this lady and her
 cats, i hope someone can help!!

 lori


 On Oct 4, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Kimber Gorall wrote:

 PLEASE READ AND CROSS-POST WIDELY (Sorry it's long)

 Contact for cat placement: Kim Gorall   (585) 924-9478
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 HELP! I am desperately seeking homes for my friend's 15 cats.
 Trudy
 is dying of an
 aggressive lung disease, and has experienced a total physical health
 collapse over the
 past 2 months. A couple of days ago, she was moved from her home and
 is now
 under hospice care. She is bedridden and not expected to live more
 than
 2 more
 weeks (as of Oct. 4, 2005). The cats are now living alone in Trudy's
 house. Paid
 caregivers are going there twice daily to care for the cats. But
 Trudy's
 biological
 relatives are not supportive of her cat family, and have said that
 they
 cannot afford to
 pay caregivers for more than two weeks -- three at most. When Trudy
 dies, her house
 will be put up for sale, and the cats will be doomed. Everyone who in
 the past has
 said that they'd be willing to take a cat is now backing out when
 faced
 with that
 reality.

 Trudy got these cats because she was a foster caregiver for a
 non-profit, homeless
 cat rescue organization in downstate New York. She brought the cats
 with
 her when
 she moved to Rochester a few years ago. Unfortunately, the rescue
 organization is
 now disbanding, and they've said that they will not take back the
 cats
 either.

 Trudy spend her professional life working in a home for orphaned and
 abandoned
 children. Outside of work, she has devoted her life's time, energy
 and
 money to
 helping feral and homeless cats. She is literally hanging onto life
 only
 for the sake of
 the cats that are still her responsibility. She is obsessed with the
 thought that they
 might not have the chance to live out their remaining years. It is
 breaking her heart
 and exhausting what little energy she has left. I would like to be
 able
 to tell her that
 she can go in peace, knowing that her cats will be safe.

 These cats have been extremely well cared for. Obviously, they are
 accustomed to
 being around other cats, but not dogs. They are essentially
 indoor-only
 cats. Trudy
 had a portion of her yard fenced on all sides and on top. It is
 attached
 to her house,
 so that the cats can wander from inside the house, out through a cat
 door and into
 the yard shelter if they wish. That's their idea of: outdoors.
 Although some of the
 cats are quite old, most of them are healthy, robust and full of
 life.

 If you are a responsible caregiver, won't you consider taking a cat
 as
 an act of mercy?
 If you're not interested in a long-term commitment, would you take an
 older cat?
 Personally, I think they make the best companions. Some of these cats
 have only a
 few years left, and have known only love and kindness since they were
 rescued.

 Please contact me if you can help. I am willing to transport cats to
 responsible homes
 within New York State. Outside of the state, perhaps other
 arrangements
 can be
 made. Photos of each cat are available upon request.  Here's a
 description of each
 cat:

 - Valentine:  Grey shorthaired. Neutered male. Shy and sweet. Age
 unknown; has
 lived with Trudy for 6 years. Friendly. Likes to be outside the
 majority
 of the time.
 Negative for FIV and FELV.

 - Versace:  9 years old. Pale pastel calico. Shorthaired spayed
 female. She is the
 half-sister to Woody and Babe. Likes to cuddle with other cats.
 Negative for FIV
 and FELV

 - Dusty:  Age unknown. Neutered male. Siamese cross with short
 hair.
 Has blue
 eyes.  Very shy but can be sweet. Due for a rabies vaccination on
 8/4/07. Negative for
 FIV and FELV

 - Tiger Lily:  10 years old. Manx calico spayed female. Very sweet.
 Likes to hunt.
 She has a wired left back leg from a previous fracture. She has a
 paralyzed bowel and
 needs oral medication twice a day.  Negative for FIV and FE

 - Babe Beckerle (Babe):  10 years old. Spayed female with
 tortoiseshell coloring.
 Declawed, shorthaired. Very needy. Gets attached to people and needs
 lots of petting.
 Likes to sleep under the covers on a bed. Negative for FIV and FELV

 - Mittens: 15 years old. Tiger tabby with white paws. Declawed,
 shorthaired, spayed
 female. Will happily live on top of your refrigerator ­ she has a
 little
 bed she snuggles
 in. Will talk to you when she wants to be petted. Very cute, and
 

RE: [Fwd: H.O.R.S.E. OT- cats in great need!]

2005-10-10 Thread Chris
I think Rochester,NY (upstate NY) mentioned in body of message...

Chris
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: H.O.R.S.E. OT- cats in great need!]

Says New York State, but no town listed that I can see.  These forwards can 
be hard to read...

Gloria

At 01:55 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:
I'm obviously WAY behind on email.  Where is this located?

t

--- Steph E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
   Original Message 
  Subject:  H.O.R.S.E. OT- cats in great need!
  Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:55:39 -
  From: bonzomountainmusic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  hi,  i am crossposting this for a friend (kim)  what a sad story for
  this lady and her
  cats, i hope someone can help!!
 
  lori
 
 
  On Oct 4, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Kimber Gorall wrote:
 
  PLEASE READ AND CROSS-POST WIDELY (Sorry it's long)
 
  Contact for cat placement: Kim Gorall   (585) 924-9478
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  HELP! I am desperately seeking homes for my friend's 15 cats.
  Trudy
  is dying of an
  aggressive lung disease, and has experienced a total physical health
  collapse over the
  past 2 months. A couple of days ago, she was moved from her home and
  is now
  under hospice care. She is bedridden and not expected to live more
  than
  2 more
  weeks (as of Oct. 4, 2005). The cats are now living alone in Trudy's
  house. Paid
  caregivers are going there twice daily to care for the cats. But
  Trudy's
  biological
  relatives are not supportive of her cat family, and have said that
  they
  cannot afford to
  pay caregivers for more than two weeks -- three at most. When Trudy
  dies, her house
  will be put up for sale, and the cats will be doomed. Everyone who in
  the past has
  said that they'd be willing to take a cat is now backing out when
  faced
  with that
  reality.
 
  Trudy got these cats because she was a foster caregiver for a
  non-profit, homeless
  cat rescue organization in downstate New York. She brought the cats
  with
  her when
  she moved to Rochester a few years ago. Unfortunately, the rescue
  organization is
  now disbanding, and they've said that they will not take back the
  cats
  either.
 
  Trudy spend her professional life working in a home for orphaned and
  abandoned
  children. Outside of work, she has devoted her life's time, energy
  and
  money to
  helping feral and homeless cats. She is literally hanging onto life
  only
  for the sake of
  the cats that are still her responsibility. She is obsessed with the
  thought that they
  might not have the chance to live out their remaining years. It is
  breaking her heart
  and exhausting what little energy she has left. I would like to be
  able
  to tell her that
  she can go in peace, knowing that her cats will be safe.
 
  These cats have been extremely well cared for. Obviously, they are
  accustomed to
  being around other cats, but not dogs. They are essentially
  indoor-only
  cats. Trudy
  had a portion of her yard fenced on all sides and on top. It is
  attached
  to her house,
  so that the cats can wander from inside the house, out through a cat
  door and into
  the yard shelter if they wish. That's their idea of: outdoors.
  Although some of the
  cats are quite old, most of them are healthy, robust and full of
  life.
 
  If you are a responsible caregiver, won't you consider taking a cat
  as
  an act of mercy?
  If you're not interested in a long-term commitment, would you take an
  older cat?
  Personally, I think they make the best companions. Some of these cats
  have only a
  few years left, and have known only love and kindness since they were
  rescued.
 
  Please contact me if you can help. I am willing to transport cats to
  responsible homes
  within New York State. Outside of the state, perhaps other
  arrangements
  can be
  made. Photos of each cat are available upon request.  Here's a
  description of each
  cat:
 
  - Valentine:  Grey shorthaired. Neutered male. Shy and sweet. Age
  unknown; has
  lived with Trudy for 6 years. Friendly. Likes to be outside the
  majority
  of the time.
  Negative for FIV and FELV.
 
  - Versace:  9 years old. Pale pastel calico. Shorthaired spayed
  female. She is the
  half-sister to Woody and Babe. Likes to cuddle with other cats.
  Negative for FIV
  and FELV
 
  - Dusty:  Age unknown. Neutered male. Siamese cross with short
  hair.
  Has blue
  eyes.  Very shy but can be sweet. Due for a rabies vaccination on
  8/4/07. Negative for
  FIV and FELV
 
  - Tiger Lily:  10 years old. Manx calico spayed female. Very sweet.
  Likes to hunt.
  She has a wired left back leg from a previous fracture. She has a
  paralyzed bowel and
  needs oral medication twice a day.  Negative for FIV and FE
 
  - Babe Beckerle (Babe):  

Cross posting--Can anyone help...

2005-10-10 Thread Chris








This
was a cross post on Purring Pixie yahoo group I feel bad that this
woman was left high and dry by the local rescuer.. I sent her an
e-mail directly suggesting she join this group as she seems real devoted to
these two .

___




contact vivian_kao @
yahoo.com



- Original Message -

From: vivian kao

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:55 AM

Subject: 2 feleuk positive
cats need placement



Hi Heidi,



We are looking for help for
2 stray cats we trapped in our backyard. We 

are located in Takoma Park, MD.

Of course if someone was
willing to adopt them we'd drive them there.



We trapped them last week
and followed the advice of a local rescuer who recommended getting them fully
vetted and not euthanized regardless of their test results for feleuk.
Unfortunately they tested positive. I cannot adopt them since I have 2 indoor cats
that I don't want to infect.



Here's a recap of their
story as I know it:



They were first sighted late
last year on our street, a gorgeous adult cat traveling with a kitten. We
thought they belonged to a neighbor since they appeared kept and healthy, and
would make the rounds each day at a specific time. Also many people around here
don't have collars on their pets. It wasn't until the winter, when we'd see
them out in cold weather and looking more haggard that we realized they were
homeless. We didn't see them regularly, since the weather was bad but we began
leaving food out. When the weather became warmer they appeared more regularly
but the adult cat disappeared for a while. When we saw her again she was really
thin and looked unwell. We assumed they were mother and son. Later we'd see the
younger one trailing the adult and the adult seemingly annoyed and trying to
get away. The younger cat came regularly at mealtime. Then for whatever reason
they started traveling together again.



I had been calling rescue
organizations since August but didn't have much success getting calls returned.
I didn't want to call animal control since I feared they would just be
euthanized. Finally I became desperate when the older cat appeared ill and
found a local rescuer who told me that I needed to seek immediate medical
attention for the cats and adopt them. He loaned me traps, gave me basic
instructions and the name of a clinic. He said to get them tested also and not
to put them down since he'd probably be able to find somewhere to place them.
They did need medical attention since the older one had tonsillitis really bad
and the younger one had a huge abscess that required surgery. However, they
also both tested positive for Feline Leukemia and the younger one is also FIV
positive. So after paying a pretty large vet bill we didn't have anywhere for
them to go. Currently they are residing in a kitty condo in our shed. We cannot
let them in the house since we have cats and we cannot set them free since they
are contagious.



Since returning from the
vet's the older cat has had a really healthy appetite and the younger one as
well (she always had a good appetite). The funny thing is that the cat we
thought was the mom turned out to be male. He is rather tame and appears to be
an abandoned pet. He didn't seem to mind being contained as much and feels
comfortable enough to eat as soon as I put food in the cage. The younger, more
spirited cat is female and seems more frightened of people. She hides and will
not eat until I leave. She is about one and has been outside most of her life.
They have a very special bond.



Please post this on the
listserv. I will attach some photos. Please stay in touch and I will try to
remain hopeful that we find a good situation for these little cats.



Thanks for your time,

-Vivian Kao

301.445.2207





Chris

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Re: Cross posting--Can anyone help...

2005-10-10 Thread Lernermichelle



Can you suggest she call the Marley Fund if she hasn't already?
Michelle


RE: Cross posting--Can anyone help...

2005-10-10 Thread Chris









Good thoughtdo you
have #?





Chris

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005
5:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Cross posting--Can
anyone help...





Can you
suggest she call the Marley Fund if she hasn't already?





Michelle










CLS for Monday October 10, 2005

2005-10-10 Thread Belinda Sauro

  Hi All,
 Here is this weeks service.  Hope all the kitties are doing well.  
Please let me know if I have forgotten anyone.


FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
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update on Katrina kitten with eye herpes

2005-10-10 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Hey,
I thought I would give you an update on the Katrina kitten with the herpes 
in the eyes.
She had her check up today and so far the vet says she is in no pain and as 
of right now the eye does not have to be removed. In one month she will be 
spayed and if it needs to be removed he will do it 
then


RE: update on Katrina kitten with eye herpes

2005-10-10 Thread Chris









OK its good the
owners did what was best there are hundreds and hundreds of other
folks looking for their pets  the system that is set up is a nightmare for
even those of us who are not homeless, who have phones, power, etc. If
you dont have access to a computer and long distance phone service, you
just cant find your pet!





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005
10:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: update on Katrina
kitten with eye herpes





Hey
Chris,





these
two were surrendered to us when the owners were living in Reunion arena. they
were very sick and the owners homeless. They did what was best.











see our available orphans at:
http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html
Karen 817-453-4888










Re: wormers

2005-10-10 Thread felv



I quote:
"WormGuard Plus Series 4 attacks and pierces the worms 
exoskeleton and dehydrates them to death."

I would think that anything that is capable of "attacking and piercing the 
worm's exoskeleton"would alsobe capable of attacking and piercing 
the cat's intestinal wall, leading to DEATH.

In addition, most intestinal worms DO NOT HAVE exoskeletons. Earth worms 
have exoskeletons, most intestinal worms do NOT.

IE:
"Roundworms are triploblastic (Click link for more info and facts about 
protostome)protostomes with a 
complete (The system that makes food 
absorbable into the body)digestive system. They 
are thin and are round in cross section, though they are actually (Click link for more info and facts about 
bilaterally symmetrical)bilaterally symmetrical. The body cavity is reduced to a narrow (Click link for more info and facts about 
pseudocoelom)pseudocoelom. The 
mouth is often surrounded by various flaps or projections used in feeding and 
sensation. The portion of the body past the (Excretory opening at the end of the alimentary 
canal)anus or (A waste pipe that carries away sewage or surface 
water)cloaca is called the 
"tail." The epidermis secretes a layered cuticle made of (A fibrous scleroprotein that occurs in 
the outer layer of the skin and in horny tissues such as hair feathers nails and 
hooves)keratin that protects 
the body from drying out, from digestive juices, or from other harsh 
environments, as well as in some forms sporting projections that aid in 
locomotion. This cuticle is shed as the parasite grows.Roundworms have a 
simple nervous system, with a main nerve cord running along the ventral side. 
Sensory structures at the anterior end are called amphids, while sensory 
structures at the posterior end are called phasmids."


Furthermore, after doing a bit of snooping through the websites for this 
product, I found PROOF that the owner of the site is guilty of DISHONESTY and 
FALSE ADVERTISEMENT. Read on

On this webpage
http://www.petmedicinechest.com/feline/discussions/parasitestext.asp
it quotes a "satisfied customer" as saying:
"In the summer of 2000, I used 
Parastem™ and Worm-Out™ on my cat. I noticed what looked like blood 
splotches on our tile floor and thought my cat had cut his foot and was bleeding 
somewhat. Upon getting on my hands and knees to clean the floor I noticed 
these blood splotches "moving". What I realized was that these were worms 
coming out of my cat due to the Parastem™. They had a clear almost saran 
looking skin around them that I could see through and see their insides which 
contained the blood they had been sucking from my cat. It was rather 
eerie, but I could clearly see for myself that our regiment to clean up 
our cat was working. Literally right before my eyes." 

Rose from the Feline Medicine 
Chest™
Then, on this webpage 
http://www.jeanesholistics.com/wormout.html
it quotesthe same"satisfied customer" as saying: 

"In the summer of 2000, 
I used Parastem and Worm-Out on my dog. I noticed what looked like blood 
splotches on our tile floor and thought my dog had cut his foot and was bleeding 
somewhat. Upon getting on my hands and knees to clean the floor I noticed these 
blood splotches "moving". What I realized was that these were worms 
coming out of my dog due to the Parastem. They had a clear almost saran looking 
skin around them that I could see through and see their insides which contained 
the blood they had been sucking from my dog. It was rather eerie, but I could 
clearly see for myself that our regiment to clean up our dog's insides was 
working--literally right before my eyes." 

Rose from the Canine Medicine 
Chest
THIS exclusively proves that they are NOT using customer quotes, because in 
one version of the "quote" it says she used it on a cat, and in the other, on a 
dog. 

Personally... I don't trust the life and health of MY pet's to LYING 
BASTARDS just trying to make a few bucks.

Be your own judge though. I agree with the person who said it's "snake 
oil".

It's just a bottled and labeled for pet's version of Diatomaceous Earth 
anyways.

http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex/2004-July/008619.html
Is the only negative info I could find online off hand. Seems many people 
have been feeding it to their animals (and even themselves) with no ill effects 
for quite some time.

Here read all about it:http://www.google.com/search?num=20hl=enlr=safe=offrls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-48%2CGGLD%3Aenq=Diatomaceous+EarthbtnG=Search
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving 
one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of 
difference for that one 
animal."~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old 

Re: wormers--- coccidia

2005-10-10 Thread felv



just reposting this, since it's slightly on the topic at hand:

(I wonder if Ronidazole will be useful for other 
types of parasites some day?)


Trichomonosis in cats

According 
to Dr S. Marks of UC-Davis School of Veterinary Medicine: “Tritrichomonas foetus, the 
primary causative agent of bovine trichomoniasis, has recently been recognized 
as a protozoal [intestinal] pathogen in cats.” One study showed a high prevalence in 
cat show and cattery animals. Often 
misdiagnosed as Giardia, T. foetus infected cats treated with an 
appropriate Giardia therapy do not respond.

Clinical 
signs of Tritrichomonas foetus include chronic or re-occurring 
diarrhea. Often “the anus is … red, 
swollen, and painful, and fecal incontinence is not uncommon. Most cats are usually bright, alert, and 
responsive, and in good body condition with a normal appetite.” T. foetus can be found in cats 
not showing clinical signs.

InPouchTF 
(Biomed Diagnostics, White City, Oregon) is a test developed to identify 
Tritrichomonas foetus in cows, but can be used in a veterinary hospital 
setting to test cats for the protozoa. This is the test we used to 
confirm Pharaoh’s diagnosis. 
InPouch TF has shown a 90% rate of sensitivity to the protozoa, a 
six-fold increase over trying to diagnosis this protozoa via a microscopic 
examination of fecal material. 


Tritrichomonas 
foetus is 
not considered to be zoonotic (transmissible to people) but as it can affect 
cows and pigs, anyone with these animals and a cat with chronic diarrhea has 
cause for concern.

At the time 
Dr. Marks wrote his presentation, no treatment options were available. By June of this summer (2005), after 
many drug trials had been unsuccessful, Ronidazole was showing promise in 
research trials. 


Once 
diagnosed with Tritrichomonas foetus, Ronidazole is the drug currently 
being tested for use in cats. 
This is an ‘off-label’ use of the drug and is not guaranteed to be a 
treatment. Dosing being used by 
researchers is 30-50mg/kg orally once every 12 hours for 14 days. However, research has not yet decided if 
this is the optimal dose. 
Ronidazole is produced by SIGMA Pharmaceuticals. It must be kept frozen. Currently it is a relatively reasonably 
priced drug – this may change in the future.

It is 
important to know that recovered cats can remain infected. Periods of stress do seem to play a 
strong role in recurrence of clinical signs. 


The most 
sensitive test for Tritrichomonas foetus is a PCR of DNA extracted from 
feces with a 97%+ sensitivity to the protozoa. This test is only performed at the 
veterinary laboratory at North Carolina State University. A lima bean sized amount of feces must 
be placed in 5-10ml of rubbing alcohol for proper stabilization of the sample in 
preparation for testing. 



Sources
“Update of 
Feline Gastrointestinal Neoplasia,” 
S. L. Marks, BVSc., PhD, Diplomate ACVIM (Internal Medicine, Oncology), 
Diplomate ACVN, lecture notes, North American Veterinary Conference Postgraduate 
Institute 2005 – Advances in Feline Medicine, Orlando 
FL.

Personal 
notes, P. J. Yankauskas, VMD, Hyde Park VT

Personal 
consultation, P. J. Yankauskas, VMD, Hyde Park 
VT
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a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving 
one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of 
difference for that one 
animal."~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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