[Felvtalk] OT: Proper way to bleach drinking fountains?

2008-09-07 Thread wendy
Hey guys,

I know several of you volunteer in shelters or run rescues, and I wanted to ask 
your advice on the proper way to bleach the automatic drinking fountains for 
cats.  I am so afraid I'm going to leave bleach residue or damage the parts.  
Do you leave the motor running and let the bleach run through the fountain, and 
then rinse it out?  Or do you take it apart and bleach only the plastic parts?  
Do you rinse with hot water?  How do you make sure you get all the bleach out?

Thank you for any advice you may have!
:)
Wendy
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Proper way to bleach drinking fountains?

2008-09-07 Thread Laurieskatz
Also for the volunteers ~ Is white vinegar an acceptable alternative?
I emailed Drinkwell about how to avoid the slimy cord issue that I encounter
if I wash it only weekly. They have ignored me. This is happening with the
platinum but did not with the original model.
Laurie

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Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Proper way to bleach drinking fountains?

Hey guys,

I know several of you volunteer in shelters or run rescues, and I wanted
to ask your advice on the proper way to bleach the automatic drinking
fountains for cats.  I am so afraid I'm going to leave bleach residue or
damage the parts.  Do you leave the motor running and let the bleach run
through the fountain, and then rinse it out?  Or do you take it apart and
bleach only the plastic parts?  Do you rinse with hot water?  How do you
make sure you get all the bleach out?

Thank you for any advice you may have!
:)
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret
Meade ~~~ 


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Proper way to bleach drinking fountains?

2008-09-07 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I use both bleach and vinegar from time to time- never had problems.

The motor on my Drinkwell fountain has died - anybody know where to 
get a new one?

Gloria


At 12:05 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
Also for the volunteers ~ Is white vinegar an acceptable alternative?
I emailed Drinkwell about how to avoid the slimy cord issue that I encounter
if I wash it only weekly. They have ignored me. This is happening with the
platinum but did not with the original model.
Laurie

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Proper way to bleach drinking fountains?

Hey guys,

I know several of you volunteer in shelters or run rescues, and I wanted
to ask your advice on the proper way to bleach the automatic drinking
fountains for cats.  I am so afraid I'm going to leave bleach residue or
damage the parts.  Do you leave the motor running and let the bleach run
through the fountain, and then rinse it out?  Or do you take it apart and
bleach only the plastic parts?  Do you rinse with hot water?  How do you
make sure you get all the bleach out?

Thank you for any advice you may have!
:)
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret
Meade ~~~



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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Proper way to bleach drinking fountains?

2008-09-07 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I use both bleach and vinegar from time to time- never had problems.

The motor on my Drinkwell fountain has died - anybody know where to 
get a new one?

Gloria


At 12:05 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
Also for the volunteers ~ Is white vinegar an acceptable alternative?
I emailed Drinkwell about how to avoid the slimy cord issue that I encounter
if I wash it only weekly. They have ignored me. This is happening with the
platinum but did not with the original model.
Laurie

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Proper way to bleach drinking fountains?

Hey guys,

I know several of you volunteer in shelters or run rescues, and I wanted
to ask your advice on the proper way to bleach the automatic drinking
fountains for cats.  I am so afraid I'm going to leave bleach residue or
damage the parts.  Do you leave the motor running and let the bleach run
through the fountain, and then rinse it out?  Or do you take it apart and
bleach only the plastic parts?  Do you rinse with hot water?  How do you
make sure you get all the bleach out?

Thank you for any advice you may have!
:)
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret
Meade ~~~



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[Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative?

2008-09-07 Thread Sharyl
Meant for the group.
 
I don't know what to tell you.  The litter of 4 I rescued all tested 
positive.  I have no experience where on half the litter tests positive 
and half negative.
Sharyl 

--- On Sun, 9/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Some positive, some negative?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 2:05 PM

Hello.

I'm wondering if anyone has any idea how the following could have
happened, and what they'd recommend:

I work at an animal shelter and a few weeks ago, a woman dropped off a
mama cat with four nursing kittens.  The kittens looked to be about 3
weeks old.  I brought the cat and kittens home and have been caring for
them in a large dog crate.  They're all active and healthy looking.
Last week I brought them to the Vet for their FIV/FeLV combo test.
I was shocked when two of the kittens tested positive for FeLV.  They
used the snap test, but also sent blood to the lab on the mama cat.
Her result came back negative.

I've heard that the virus can be transient and can be fought off in
rare instances, but this is so odd.  Has anyone else ever heard of this
hap
pening.  I know I need to have everyone re-tested in a few weeks.
In the meantime, I do have them all together.  My thought was that if
the Mom and the two negative kittens haven't caught it from the two
positive kittens by now, they won't catch it.  But maybe I should
separate them.  I don't know.

I commented to someone I work with that at least we won't have a
problem adopting out the mother cat and the two negative kittens, but
she said that since they've been exposed to the virus, they can

transmit it to other cats.

Two veterinarians I spoke to have no clue.

P.S.  I=2
0know the kittens didn't catch the virus from my FeLV+ kitty as
she was living in the upstairs and they are in the basement and I
changed clothing and scrubbed up and there were hours between the time
I'd handle her and then them.

Thank you.
Adrienne




  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative?

2008-09-07 Thread Laurieskatz
Different dads??
I have NO ideahave never heard of this.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative?

Meant for the group.
 
I don't know what to tell you.  The litter of 4 I rescued all tested 
positive.  I have no experience where on half the litter tests positive 
and half negative.
Sharyl 

--- On Sun, 9/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Some positive, some negative?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 2:05 PM

Hello.

I'm wondering if anyone has any idea how the following could have
happened, and what they'd recommend:

I work at an animal shelter and a few weeks ago, a woman dropped off a
mama cat with four nursing kittens.  The kittens looked to be about 3
weeks old.  I brought the cat and kittens home and have been caring for
them in a large dog crate.  They're all active and healthy looking.
Last week I brought them to the Vet for their FIV/FeLV combo test.
I was shocked when two of the kittens tested positive for FeLV.  They
used the snap test, but also sent blood to the lab on the mama cat.
Her result came back negative.

I've heard that the virus can be transient and can be fought off in
rare instances, but this is so odd.  Has anyone else ever heard of this
hap
pening.  I know I need to have everyone re-tested in a few weeks.
In the meantime, I do have them all together.  My thought was that if
the Mom and the two negative kittens haven't caught it from the two
positive kittens by now, they won't catch it.  But maybe I should
separate them.  I don't know.

I commented to someone I work with that at least we won't have a
problem adopting out the mother cat and the two negative kittens, but
she said that since they've been exposed to the virus, they can

transmit it to other cats.

Two veterinarians I spoke to have no clue.

P.S.  I=2
0know the kittens didn't catch the virus from my FeLV+ kitty as
she was living in the upstairs and they are in the basement and I
changed clothing and scrubbed up and there were hours between the time
I'd handle her and then them.

Thank you.
Adrienne




  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative?

2008-09-07 Thread Kelley Saveika
Well, I had one test positive and 3 test negative.  (out of 4).  It was due
to bad chemicals in the postive ones' test.


On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Different dads??
 I have NO ideahave never heard of this.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl
 Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:08 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative?

 Meant for the group.

 I don't know what to tell you.  The litter of 4 I rescued all tested
 positive.  I have no experience where on half the litter tests positive
 and half negative.
 Sharyl

 --- On Sun, 9/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]gt;
 wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
 Subject: Some positive, some negative?
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 2:05 PM

 Hello.

 I'm wondering if anyone has any idea how the following could have
 happened, and what they'd recommend:

 I work at an animal shelter and a few weeks ago, a woman dropped off a
 mama cat with four nursing kittens.  The kittens looked to be about 3
 weeks old.  I brought the cat and kittens home and have been caring for
 them in a large dog crate.  They're all active and healthy looking.
 Last week I brought them to the Vet for their FIV/FeLV combo test.
 I was shocked when two of the kittens tested positive for FeLV.  They
 used the snap test, but also sent blood to the lab on the mama cat.
 Her result came back negative.

 I've heard that the virus can be transient and can be fought off in
 rare instances, but this is so odd.  Has anyone else ever heard of this
 hap
 pening.  I know I need to have everyone re-tested in a few weeks.
 In the meantime, I do have them all together.  My thought was that if
 the Mom and the two negative kittens haven't caught it from the two
 positive kittens by now, they won't catch it.  But maybe I should
 separate them.  I don't know.

 I commented to someone I work with that at least we won't have a
 problem adopting out the mother cat and the two negative kittens, but
 she said that since they've been exposed to the virus, they can

 transmit it to other cats.

 Two veterinarians I spoke to have no clue.

 P.S.  I=2
 0know the kittens didn't catch the virus from my FeLV+ kitty as
 she was living in the upstairs and they are in the basement and I
 changed clothing and scrubbed up and there were hours between the time
 I'd handle her and then them.

 Thank you.
 Adrienne





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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some negative?

2008-09-07 Thread Carmen Conklin

We work with a large number of special needs animals and yes, we have had 
experience with a negative mother (several tests) who had five kittens and 3 
were negative and two were positive. So we have to test all kittens and mom 
from any litters we might see even if mom is negative. I've seen this at least 
two times. So it does happen. possibly you are right Laurie about the different 
dads. HAS to be, doesn't it? The others did NOT get the FeLV being with them 
either. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: 
Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:31:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, 
some negative?  Different dads?? I have NO ideahave never heard of 
this.  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:08 PM To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: Some positive, some 
negative?  Meant for the group.   I don't know what to tell you.  The 
litter of 4 I rescued all tested  positive.  I have no experience where on 
half the litter tests positive  and half negative. Sharyl   --- On Sun, 
9/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:  From: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Some positive, some negative? 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 2:05 PM  Hello.  
I'm wondering if anyone has any idea how the following could have happened, 
and what they'd recommend:  I work at an animal shelter and a few weeks ago, 
a woman dropped off a mama cat with four nursing kittens. The kittens looked 
to be about 3 weeks old. I brought the cat and kittens home and have been 
caring for them in a large dog crate. They're all active and healthy looking. 
Last week I brought them to the Vet for their FIV/FeLV combo test. I was 
shocked when two of the kittens tested positive for FeLV. They used the snap 
test, but also sent blood to the lab on the mama cat. Her result came back 
negative.  I've heard that the virus can be transient and can be fought off 
in rare instances, but this is so odd. Has anyone else ever heard of this 
hap pening. I know I need to have everyone re-tested in a few weeks. In the 
meantime, I do have them all together. My thought was that if the Mom and the 
two negative kittens haven't caught it from the two positive kittens by now, 
they won't catch it. But maybe I should separate them. I don't know.  I 
commented to someone I work with that at least we won't have a problem 
adopting out the mother cat and the two negative kittens, but she said that 
since they've been exposed to the virus, they can  transmit it to other 
cats.  Two veterinarians I spoke to have no clue.  P.S. I=2 0know the 
kittens didn't catch the virus from my FeLV+ kitty as she was living in the 
upstairs and they are in the basement and I changed clothing and scrubbed up 
and there were hours between the time I'd handle her and then them.  Thank 
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[Felvtalk] Can you please pray for Michelle's Patches

2008-09-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Hi again all,
Strangely I was just wondering this a.m. how Michelle's Patches was
doing, and thinking I must email her, and then when I came into work,
there was the email from her (below). (For those who don't know
Michelle, she was a tireless, dedicated source of knowledge and support
on the list for many years).
Thanks for your prayers for Patches.
Kerry M.


Hi, Kerry. Can I bother you to ask the list for prayers again? Patches
had been doing a lot better for a couple of weeks-- her hematocrit was
going up (and maybe still is-- she looks quite pink), she gained weight,
she was getting more active and had started eating some on her own
again. But the last few days she has looked worse than when we brought
her to the hospital with the pancreatitis. She had the strongest chemo
drug 8 days ago, so we thought it was that, but she does not seem to be
improving. She lays in one spot all day and only gets up to use the
litterbox, and looks weak when she does. She seems nauseous too. She has
gained a lot of weight and we think the vets were telling us to feed her
too much through her tube, and we are wondering if her pancreatitis has
been aggravated by this. Or, of course, the cancer could be back. We are
planning on taking her to the hospital tomorrow afternoon when her
internist is in, to see if they can ultrasound her and if she! needs IV
fluids.  Prayers always seem to help, though, so I thought I would ask.

thanks as always, and I hope you and yours are ok,
Michelle

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Re: [Felvtalk] Can you please pray for Michelle's Patches

2008-09-07 Thread Marylyn
Blessings to her for loving and love and prayers to Patches.
On Sep 7, 2008, at 5:37 PM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

 Hi again all,
 Strangely I was just wondering this a.m. how Michelle's Patches was
 doing, and thinking I must email her, and then when I came into work,
 there was the email from her (below). (For those who don't know
 Michelle, she was a tireless, dedicated source of knowledge and  
 support
 on the list for many years).
 Thanks for your prayers for Patches.
 Kerry M.


 Hi, Kerry. Can I bother you to ask the list for prayers again? Patches
 had been doing a lot better for a couple of weeks-- her hematocrit was
 going up (and maybe still is-- she looks quite pink), she gained  
 weight,
 she was getting more active and had started eating some on her own
 again. But the last few days she has looked worse than when we brought
 her to the hospital with the pancreatitis. She had the strongest chemo
 drug 8 days ago, so we thought it was that, but she does not seem to  
 be
 improving. She lays in one spot all day and only gets up to use the
 litterbox, and looks weak when she does. She seems nauseous too. She  
 has
 gained a lot of weight and we think the vets were telling us to feed  
 her
 too much through her tube, and we are wondering if her pancreatitis  
 has
 been aggravated by this. Or, of course, the cancer could be back. We  
 are
 planning on taking her to the hospital tomorrow afternoon when her
 internist is in, to see if they can ultrasound her and if she! needs  
 IV
 fluids.  Prayers always seem to help, though, so I thought I would  
 ask.

 thanks as always, and I hope you and yours are ok,
 Michelle

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Re: [Felvtalk] Can you please pray for Michelle's Patches

2008-09-07 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Prayers coming for Michelle's Patches!

Gloria


At 05:37 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
Hi again all,
Strangely I was just wondering this a.m. how Michelle's Patches was
doing, and thinking I must email her, and then when I came into work,
there was the email from her (below). (For those who don't know
Michelle, she was a tireless, dedicated source of knowledge and support
on the list for many years).
Thanks for your prayers for Patches.
Kerry M.


Hi, Kerry. Can I bother you to ask the list for prayers again? Patches
had been doing a lot better for a couple of weeks-- her hematocrit was
going up (and maybe still is-- she looks quite pink), she gained weight,
she was getting more active and had started eating some on her own
again. But the last few days she has looked worse than when we brought
her to the hospital with the pancreatitis. She had the strongest chemo
drug 8 days ago, so we thought it was that, but she does not seem to be
improving. She lays in one spot all day and only gets up to use the
litterbox, and looks weak when she does. She seems nauseous too. She has
gained a lot of weight and we think the vets were telling us to feed her
too much through her tube, and we are wondering if her pancreatitis has
been aggravated by this. Or, of course, the cancer could be back. We are
planning on taking her to the hospital tomorrow afternoon when her
internist is in, to see if they can ultrasound her and if she! needs IV
fluids.  Prayers always seem to help, though, so I thought I would ask.

thanks as always, and I hope you and yours are ok,
Michelle

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Re: [Felvtalk] Can you please pray for Michelle's Patches

2008-09-07 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Prayers coming for Michelle's Patches!

Gloria


At 05:37 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
Hi again all,
Strangely I was just wondering this a.m. how Michelle's Patches was
doing, and thinking I must email her, and then when I came into work,
there was the email from her (below). (For those who don't know
Michelle, she was a tireless, dedicated source of knowledge and support
on the list for many years).
Thanks for your prayers for Patches.
Kerry M.


Hi, Kerry. Can I bother you to ask the list for prayers again? Patches
had been doing a lot better for a couple of weeks-- her hematocrit was
going up (and maybe still is-- she looks quite pink), she gained weight,
she was getting more active and had started eating some on her own
again. But the last few days she has looked worse than when we brought
her to the hospital with the pancreatitis. She had the strongest chemo
drug 8 days ago, so we thought it was that, but she does not seem to be
improving. She lays in one spot all day and only gets up to use the
litterbox, and looks weak when she does. She seems nauseous too. She has
gained a lot of weight and we think the vets were telling us to feed her
too much through her tube, and we are wondering if her pancreatitis has
been aggravated by this. Or, of course, the cancer could be back. We are
planning on taking her to the hospital tomorrow afternoon when her
internist is in, to see if they can ultrasound her and if she! needs IV
fluids.  Prayers always seem to help, though, so I thought I would ask.

thanks as always, and I hope you and yours are ok,
Michelle

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