Re: [Felvtalk] CAT LOVERS: OMG!!! comments deadline 2/16! Stop theannual slaughter of bobcats in NY for the foreign fur market..
Good to know, thanks Marcia! - Original Message - From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] CAT LOVERS: OMG!!! comments deadline 2/16! Stop theannual slaughter of bobcats in NY for the foreign fur market.. I hate traps and trappers. But then we also have the people who buy their product. They are also disgusting. Echo bakeware manufactures traps. I refused, years ago to purchase any of their products, ever again! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:32 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I would like to set out traps for the hunters. Let them struggle to free themselves and die in fear from the elements. If they have to hunt them at least give them a fighting chance, the ability to spot you and get away. Ths is such a lazy way of hunting. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: It might be happening in your state, too!!! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] CAT LOVERS: OMG!!! comments deadline 2/16! Stop the annual slaughter of bobcats in NY for the foreign fur market.. I don't live there and it pisses me off!! People can be SO cruel and miserably stupid!! Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:14 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Stop the annual slaughter of bobcats in NY for the foreign fur market As a NY taxpayer I am outraged and appalled to learn of the DEC plan to increase the numbers and areas where bobcats can be hunted and killed. The bobcat is an important member of our natural community and should not be killed for sport or for their fur. The hunting and cruel slaughter of this magnificent animal is objectionable to most animal lovers and NY residents and endangers many other animals including household pets who get caught in the cruel traps set by hunters. This is the 21st century and there can be no justification for this barbaric and inhumane treatment of our wildlife. Zelda Penzel, President People for the End of Animal Cruelty and Exploitation NY, NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties
Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad congestion every 6 months when the weather changed I started the furnace or air conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV lived fine mixing with my FeLV cats for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there were FeLV's in the house he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper respiratory with a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything, If you are worried about about fighting transferring the FIV, you can have the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds minimize chance of passing the FIV. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Purrs Rubs from us to you and your beloveds on Valentine's Day. you've got us!! want to hear your thoughts please. adult spayed FIV + cat is back in my household. chronic upper respiratory. FeLeukemia negative. recommend to vaccinate her for feline leukemia? only vaccine she has ever received is rabies. why I would ever think such a thing follows: recommendations on mixing her with household cats, three of which tested positive for feline leukemia on combo test. FIV + cat is feisty. household female cat who lays down the law is FeLeukemia negative. the FIV+ cat has never shared space with the household five. she is presently sequestered. thank you. cz Thank you. cz Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:38:24 -0500 From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Just so you know that the vaccination is only 80% effective. But it's a lot better than 0% protection. - Original Message - From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Fighting doesn't matter with FeLV if the cats are vaccinated. It is passed in the saliva. Fighting will pass FIV. I mix all my positives negatives, too. Have for years with no passing of the virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties My cat Tigger is FeLV Positive and has been for almost 5 years. None of my others are, all vaccinated. They share litter boxes, water bowls and food! They even sleep together! So yes, they can be integrated, as long as the negatives are vaccinated, they do not fight or mate!! From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Dear all, It's been a while since I haven't posted to the list. Since my Beltza passed away, last year I am still in debt with you guys for all the support you gave me with her. I cannot remember if I told you that I run a very small cat shelter in Cuernavaca, México, where I live. Recently, we rescued two kitties which turned out to be FeLV positive (on a triple SNAP test, FeLV, FIV and HW, Idexx brand). These two cats are not siblings, they come from different litters from different parts of México City. We are aware that they need to be retested in 3 months in order to be completely sure that they are FeLV positive. However, I have a lot of doubts and this is the reason of why I am posting again... We want to find nice and responsible families for these two kitties. Does these kitties need to be adopted as the only cat in the house? Can they share their lives with other cats? FeLV negative as long as they have their vaccines up-to-date? Can we give them together in adoption? Can they share their lives with other FeLV positive cats? We are also aware of the huge responsibility that is in our hands at the time of giving these two furry ones in adoption, we know that we need to find homes that are well documented, and that intend to keep them indoors. We would greatly appreciate any advice you could give us in order to ensure a great life for these two little guys. Thanks in advance, Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] Lucky Louie and Britta Please add to the CLS :(
So sorry. At least little Britta got a chance for some love from you on Valentine's Day. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Lucky Louie and Britta Please add to the CLS :( Well it was another heartbreaking day for us today at Sids...Lucky Louie was a sweet little orange guy that had a rough start before coming to us.His story was a hawk has dropped him in his rescuers yard. Somehow he ended up with us and we had a short time to have had the chance to love this great little guy. Britta today when I was having my valentine visit with the Sids kids had a seizure right in front of me,it was the strangest thing I ever saw...but she came out of it,crawled into my lap and proceeded to purr and kneed my lapwas such a sweet moment for us. Well I just received an e-mail from Dr. Jen that little Britta collapsed and could not be helped...I will cherish that sweet moment I got to share with her today after she had scared me so. Heart is heavy tonight, Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties
I dont worry about any FIV+ cats with healthy ones, as long as they get along! Never had a problem have 5 FIV+ right now, and about to introduce another one. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad congestion every 6 months when the weather changed I started the furnace or air conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV lived fine mixing with my FeLV cats for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there were FeLV's in the house he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper respiratory with a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything, If you are worried about about fighting transferring the FIV, you can have the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds minimize chance of passing the FIV. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Purrs Rubs from us to you and your beloveds on Valentine's Day. you've got us!! want to hear your thoughts please. adult spayed FIV + cat is back in my household. chronic upper respiratory. FeLeukemia negative. recommend to vaccinate her for feline leukemia? only vaccine she has ever received is rabies. why I would ever think such a thing follows: recommendations on mixing her with household cats, three of which tested positive for feline leukemia on combo test. FIV + cat is feisty. household female cat who lays down the law is FeLeukemia negative. the FIV+ cat has never shared space with the household five. she is presently sequestered. thank you. cz Thank you. cz Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:38:24 -0500 From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Just so you know that the vaccination is only 80% effective. But it's a lot better than 0% protection. - Original Message - From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Fighting doesn't matter with FeLV if the cats are vaccinated. It is passed in the saliva. Fighting will pass FIV. I mix all my positives negatives, too. Have for years with no passing of the virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties My cat Tigger is FeLV Positive and has been for almost 5 years. None of my others are, all vaccinated. They share litter boxes, water bowls and food! They even sleep together! So yes, they can be integrated, as long as the negatives are vaccinated, they do not fight or mate!! From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Dear all, It's been a while since I haven't posted to the list. Since my Beltza passed away, last year I am still in debt with you guys for all the support you gave me with her. I cannot remember if I told you that I run a very small cat shelter in Cuernavaca, México, where I live. Recently, we rescued two kitties which turned out to be FeLV positive (on a triple SNAP test, FeLV, FIV and HW, Idexx brand). These two cats are not siblings, they come from different litters from different parts of México City. We are aware that they need to be retested in 3 months in order to be completely sure that they are FeLV positive. However, I have a lot of doubts and this is the reason of why I am posting again... We want to find nice and responsible families for these two kitties. Does these kitties need to be adopted as the only cat in the house? Can they share their lives with other cats? FeLV negative as long as they have their vaccines up-to-date? Can we give them together in adoption? Can they share their lives with other FeLV positive cats? We are also aware of the huge responsibility that is in our hands at the time of giving these two furry ones in adoption, we know that we need to find homes that are well documented, and that intend to keep them indoors. We would greatly appreciate any advice you could give us in order to ensure a great life for these two little guys. Thanks in advance, Ana
Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
Hi, Vicky, Welcome! My first suggestion would be to start them on some really good vitamin supplements, good food, building up their natural immune systems. I have always given my FIV/FeLV cats 50mg of CoQ10 daily in their food. Get the GNC Vegetarian formula because it's in powder form, easily opened (get 100mg caps). The first things that seem to show trouble are gums and teeth - that's why CoQ10 is so great! Any time there's the slightest sniffle, take care of it. Have never had a cat with FIP (wet or dry from). I'm sure others will have advice about other treatments for you. If kitty #3 was negative, and vaccinated, no reason not to keep him! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Vicky Eyal Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
don't know much about that, but i have a cat who is 90% blind, and happy as can be. he will adjust to it, though it'll take a few weeks. From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
Anne, I am so sorry to hear about Dublin. We have a kitty that has to be sedated when he goes to the vet and he came back home deaf recently after being sedated. It has taken him a while to adjust to not being able to hear and his personality certainly has changed. I am sure you already know this but I would find the smallest bathroom to put him in while he tries to adjust :( Poor little man, I am so very sorry. However, cats are very resilient and hopefully either his sight will come back or he will adjust quickly to his disability. Edna Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:32:06 -0600 From: anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
Sometimes the sight comes back. We had a non-FeLV cat at the shelter that went bling after surgery she slowly regained her sight after a couple weeks. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
Anne, I've had friends whose cats have lost their sight during various routine procedures where they had to be anethistized. Four of the six regained some sight in time. Try not to worry about bringing Dublin home. Once he realizes he is home he will adjust very well - given time. If you are afraid of the other cat's reactions, rub a little baby powder on everyone (Dublin included) when you bring him home so everyone smells pretty much alike. There may be some tense moments for a bit, but even if he doesn't retain his sight, he should do just fine. The following links will lead you two blind cat crime-fighter links for true stories of how amazingly well these poor animals can exist.http://www.lisaviolet.com/cathouse/amazing.html http://user.xmission.com/~emailbox/foiled_burglar.htm Good luck!T --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote: From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 11:32 AM I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
I rescued a blind and deaf 10 year old cat that was left out in an open field to die a little over two weeks ago. I hope your cat regains his sight but if he doesn't, please don't panic. He will learn to adjust in time. I am so sorry! Search the internet. There is a lot of info on there regarding blind cats. Jannes From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Sometimes the sight comes back. We had a non-FeLV cat at the shelter that went bling after surgery she slowly regained her sight after a couple weeks. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
I have a boy who had bouts of intermittent blindness.it went on for months. His vision is perfect nowand he is almost ten years old. Debbie Bates What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:15:05 -0800 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Sometimes the sight comes back. We had a non-FeLV cat at the shelter that went bling after surgery she slowly regained her sight after a couple weeks. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
Anne,I am so sorry to hear the news about Dublin and we will all hope that with time, he will regain sight. I can only say to you that he has the very best Mom to help him through this! He will adapt to his new circumstances with time. He will also take in all your love and know that he is in such good hands...Jasper and I send hugs to you both!Wendy --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 12:43 PM I rescued a blind and deaf 10 year old cat that was left out in an open field to die a little over two weeks ago. I hope your cat regains his sight but if he doesn't, please don't panic. He will learn to adjust in time. I am so sorry! Search the internet. There is a lot of info on there regarding blind cats. Jannes From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Sometimes the sight comes back. We had a non-FeLV cat at the shelter that went bling after surgery she slowly regained her sight after a couple weeks. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
Debbie, Can the vet check his blood pressure to see if it's high? That can cause pressure in the eyes and lead to blindness. - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=Y3BxMzc0NQ%3D%3D From: dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:08:32 +0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I have a boy who had bouts of intermittent blindness.it went on for months. His vision is perfect nowand he is almost ten years old. Debbie Bates What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:15:05 -0800 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Sometimes the sight comes back. We had a non-FeLV cat at the shelter that went bling after surgery she slowly regained her sight after a couple weeks. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Ask the vet if he used Ketamine. This is an injected anesthesia and many times results in dilated pupils. The dilation lasts anywhere from a day to a week. Baby Face, a cat I had long ago came out of spay surgery with dilated pupils. I didn't notice it until the Sunday after the surgery. We have an animal eye specialist here. He came into the office just to check Baby Face for high eye pressure. She was normal. Then he asked what type of anesthesia had been used. I didn't know so he called the vet who had done the spay. It was Ketamine. This drug has since been banned or cautioned for use on humans but vets are still using it on cats and dogs because it's less expensive and quicker for them to use. I always ask for the gas method of anesthesia because of Baby Face's experience with this drug. It could also be the cause of Dublin's agitation if he has a sensitivity to the drug. If you have an animal eye specialist in your area take Dublin to that vet. He will put some drops in the eyes and test the pressure. Dublin could actually have come to you with mild glaucoma since you say that his pupils were mostly not responsive to light.. Glaucoma in animals can be controlled with special eye medication similar to what humans use to control eye pressure. Lee From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
So sorry this happened to Dublin, but hopefully, he will regain at least some sight. I had two cats with severe stomatitis that my vet and I (with the help of some Holisticat.com advice) cured using just one course of Clavamox and then supplements. It takes some months, but they were cured. The dental tech had never seen anything like it. Extractions apparently only work 50% of the time, and hopefully will work in Dublin's case. If not, try this protocol. Hope this helps. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote: I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org stomatitis-protocol.rtf Description: RTF file ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
I agree on the Ketamine. I always ask for gas, and for ferals to be boxed down. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: *From:* Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Ask the vet if he used Ketamine. This is an injected anesthesia and many times results in dilated pupils. The dilation lasts anywhere from a day to a week. Baby Face, a cat I had long ago came out of spay surgery with dilated pupils. I didn't notice it until the Sunday after the surgery. We have an animal eye specialist here. He came into the office just to check Baby Face for high eye pressure. She was normal. Then he asked what type of anesthesia had been used. I didn't know so he called the vet who had done the spay. It was Ketamine. This drug has since been banned or cautioned for use on humans but vets are still using it on cats and dogs because it's less expensive and quicker for them to use. I always ask for the gas method of anesthesia because of Baby Face's experience with this drug. It could also be the cause of Dublin's agitation if he has a sensitivity to the drug. If you have an animal eye specialist in your area take Dublin to that vet. He will put some drops in the eyes and test the pressure. Dublin could actually have come to you with mild glaucoma since you say that his pupils were mostly not responsive to light.. Glaucoma in animals can be controlled with special eye medication similar to what humans use to control eye pressure. Lee *From:* Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote: ** Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
What do you mean boxed down? On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote: I agree on the Ketamine. I always ask for gas, and for ferals to be boxed down. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Ask the vet if he used Ketamine. This is an injected anesthesia and many times results in dilated pupils. The dilation lasts anywhere from a day to a week. Baby Face, a cat I had long ago came out of spay surgery with dilated pupils. I didn't notice it until the Sunday after the surgery. We have an animal eye specialist here. He came into the office just to check Baby Face for high eye pressure. She was normal. Then he asked what type of anesthesia had been used. I didn't know so he called the vet who had done the spay. It was Ketamine. This drug has since been banned or cautioned for use on humans but vets are still using it on cats and dogs because it's less expensive and quicker for them to use. I always ask for the gas method of anesthesia because of Baby Face's experience with this drug. It could also be the cause of Dublin's agitation if he has a sensitivity to the drug. If you have an animal eye specialist in your area take Dublin to that vet. He will put some drops in the eyes and test the pressure. Dublin could actually have come to you with mild glaucoma since you say that his pupils were mostly not responsive to light.. Glaucoma in animals can be controlled with special eye medication similar to what humans use to control eye pressure. Lee From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties
Thanks for your comments. I trust us and our insights and experience. My heart and gratitude are with always at SIDS and today also with Dublin. My Pooshie appeared to be blinded after being neutered. It took several weeks but it wore off. May it be for Dublin and you. re: Yahmuna: FIV + I first wrote you about Jan. 2010. She came to my NC patio on Thanksgiving with goopy eyes very, very unwell. Went into rescue in 7.2011. they finally had her on every 3 days oral azithromycin and azythromycin nasal drops. She had chronic respiratory issues there. air quality seemed good. I took her to vet this past Saturday when I brought her home forever. Vet's thinking was so much scar tissue/inflammation that she will always be loud breather. He said to discontinue treatment and treat her when she becomes symptomatic. I DID NOTICE THAT HER BREATHING SEEMED BETTER AT VET's OFFICE. no carpet. Her breathing is loud; This morning there was a wee bit of clear moisture draining from one eye. I have humidifier going continually/ she comes for showers. is sequestered in same bedroom where she was from 11.2010 - 7.2011.THANK YOU!!! cz. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:44:18 -0800 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad congestion every 6 months when the weather changed I started the furnace or air conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV lived fine mixing with my FeLV cats for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there were FeLV's in the house he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper respiratory with a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything, If you are worried about about fighting transferring the FIV, you can have the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds minimize chance of passing the FIV. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Purrs Rubs from us to you and your beloveds on Valentine's Day. you've got us!! want to hear your thoughts please. adult spayed FIV + cat is back in my household. chronic upper respiratory. FeLeukemia negative. recommend to vaccinate her for feline leukemia? only vaccine she has ever received is rabies. why I would ever think such a thing follows: recommendations on mixing her with household cats, three of which tested positive for feline leukemia on combo test. FIV + cat is feisty. household female cat who lays down the law is FeLeukemia negative. the FIV+ cat has never shared space with the household five. she is presently sequestered. thank you. cz Thank you. cz Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:38:24 -0500 From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Just so you know that the vaccination is only 80% effective. But it's a lot better than 0% protection. - Original Message - From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Fighting doesn't matter with FeLV if the cats are vaccinated. It is passed in the saliva. Fighting will pass FIV. I mix all my positives negatives, too. Have for years with no passing of the virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties My cat Tigger is FeLV Positive and has been for almost 5 years. None of my others are, all vaccinated. They share litter boxes, water bowls and food! They even sleep together! So yes, they can be integrated, as long as the negatives are vaccinated, they do not fight or mate!! From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Dear all, It's been a while since I haven't posted to the list. Since my Beltza passed away, last year I am still in debt with you guys for all the support you gave me with her. I cannot remember if I told you that I run a very small cat shelter in Cuernavaca, México, where I live. Recently, we rescued two kitties which turned out to be FeLV positive (on a triple SNAP test, FeLV, FIV and HW, Idexx brand). These two cats are not siblings, they come from different litters from different parts of México City. We are aware that they need to be
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE
Well I got surprisingly good news when I stopped at the vet around 5:00! Dublin is calmer, he drank and ate well, AND his pupils are showing light reflex now!! They constricted and he even flinched away when the vet shone the light in his eyes. So at least he should be able to sense light and dark, and with this much improvement in one afternoon who knows what there will be in a few days? The vet used inhaled anesthetic, not ketamine. It's still a mystery to him why this happened, and he is *extremely* cutting-edge and educated and experienced, and has never seen anything like this. It's not from hypoxia as the way they do the anesthetic apparently prevents that (the patient is getting oxygen during and after), not hypertension as that would show signs in the eye. Maybe something neurologic related to the FeLV? The vet and I are both frustrated not to know, but it's so hopeful that he is getting -- and feeling -- somewhat better. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE
Excellent. It still could be a reaction to the anesthesia, especially since he is FeLv+ but I have had several FeLv+ and FIV+ (both positive together in same cat) neutered and no problems with eyes. Maybe it has to do with the stomatitis, bacteria going into body, causing a reaction. Anyway, good that he's recovering now. Blessings to you and Dublin. Lee From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE Well I got surprisingly good news when I stopped at the vet around 5:00! Dublin is calmer, he drank and ate well, AND his pupils are showing light reflex now!! They constricted and he even flinched away when the vet shone the light in his eyes. So at least he should be able to sense light and dark, and with this much improvement in one afternoon who knows what there will be in a few days? The vet used inhaled anesthetic, not ketamine. It's still a mystery to him why this happened, and he is *extremely* cutting-edge and educated and experienced, and has never seen anything like this. It's not from hypoxia as the way they do the anesthetic apparently prevents that (the patient is getting oxygen during and after), not hypertension as that would show signs in the eye. Maybe something neurologic related to the FeLV? The vet and I are both frustrated not to know, but it's so hopeful that he is getting -- and feeling -- somewhat better. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
YES! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote: Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
I didn't realize that vets still had access to it - my vet doesn't! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; anne.my...@uni.edu Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Ask the vet if he used Ketamine. This is an injected anesthesia and many times results in dilated pupils. The dilation lasts anywhere from a day to a week. Baby Face, a cat I had long ago came out of spay surgery with dilated pupils. I didn't notice it until the Sunday after the surgery. We have an animal eye specialist here. He came into the office just to check Baby Face for high eye pressure. She was normal. Then he asked what type of anesthesia had been used. I didn't know so he called the vet who had done the spay. It was Ketamine. This drug has since been banned or cautioned for use on humans but vets are still using it on cats and dogs because it's less expensive and quicker for them to use. I always ask for the gas method of anesthesia because of Baby Face's experience with this drug. It could also be the cause of Dublin's agitation if he has a sensitivity to the drug. If you have an animal eye specialist in your area take Dublin to that vet. He will put some drops in the eyes and test the pressure. Dublin could actually have come to you with mild glaucoma since you say that his pupils were mostly not responsive to light.. Glaucoma in animals can be controlled with special eye medication similar to what humans use to control eye pressure. Lee From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
There is no reliable test for FIP. Your cat tested positive for corona virus. Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill. FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it. FIP is not rare but it's definitely not very prevalent. I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona virus. He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract. He was also a street cat, in poor health in general. Lee From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions YES! From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote: Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE
That's great news - so glad to hear it. I wonder what happens if the inhalant gas gets into the eyes somehow Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Anne Myles Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE Well I got surprisingly good news when I stopped at the vet around 5:00! Dublin is calmer, he drank and ate well, AND his pupils are showing light reflex now!! They constricted and he even flinched away when the vet shone the light in his eyes. So at least he should be able to sense light and dark, and with this much improvement in one afternoon who knows what there will be in a few days? The vet used inhaled anesthetic, not ketamine. It's still a mystery to him why this happened, and he is *extremely* cutting-edge and educated and experienced, and has never seen anything like this. It's not from hypoxia as the way they do the anesthetic apparently prevents that (the patient is getting oxygen during and after), not hypertension as that would show signs in the eye. Maybe something neurologic related to the FeLV? The vet and I are both frustrated not to know, but it's so hopeful that he is getting -- and feeling -- somewhat better. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
Maybe she meant FIV? Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is no reliable test for FIP. Your cat tested positive for corona virus. Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill. FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it. FIP is not rare but it's definitely not very prevalent. I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona virus. He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract. He was also a street cat, in poor health in general. Lee From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions YES! From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote: Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
http://www.petwave.com/Cats/Health/Digestive/FIP/Diagnosis.aspx There's a lot of info on FIP diagnosing, but I'm sure that the vet based his opinion on many things described in this little piece, also depending on what type (wet/dry) it is. And, yes, it IS a corona virus, which all cats have had at some time, and the nose drop vaccine given to a cat can also fool a vet about the diagnosis (I doubt, though, that a rescue cat would have had it). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Maybe she meant FIV? Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is no reliable test for FIP. Your cat tested positive for corona virus. Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill. FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it. FIP is not rare but it's definitely not very prevalent. I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona virus. He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract. He was also a street cat, in poor health in general. Lee ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
Is the cat feral? My vet and his tech are so good at handling even the most feral cats, using thick towels. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind They put the trap/carrier into a box that has the gas flowing into it. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:01 PM, MaiMaiPG cougarcl...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean boxed down? On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote: I agree on the Ketamine. I always ask for gas, and for ferals to be boxed down. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Ask the vet if he used Ketamine. This is an injected anesthesia and many times results in dilated pupils. The dilation lasts anywhere from a day to a week. Baby Face, a cat I had long ago came out of spay surgery with dilated pupils. I didn't notice it until the Sunday after the surgery. We have an animal eye specialist here. He came into the office just to check Baby Face for high eye pressure. She was normal. Then he asked what type of anesthesia had been used. I didn't know so he called the vet who had done the spay. It was Ketamine. This drug has since been banned or cautioned for use on humans but vets are still using it on cats and dogs because it's less expensive and quicker for them to use. I always ask for the gas method of anesthesia because of Baby Face's experience with this drug. It could also be the cause of Dublin's agitation if he has a sensitivity to the drug. If you have an animal eye specialist in your area take Dublin to that vet. He will put some drops in the eyes and test the pressure. Dublin could actually have come to you with mild glaucoma since you say that his pupils were mostly not responsive to light.. Glaucoma in animals can be controlled with special eye medication similar to what humans use to control eye pressure. Lee From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
Sorry for the late reply. I have no experience with this, but I want to encourage you to keep the faith and I hope Dubbie is able to adapt. If you want some real encouragement about blind cats, read the book Homer's Odyssey. =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi, and Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^= - Original Message - From: Anne Mylesmailto:anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FIP
Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if given the vaccination.. This is too important not to mention L - Original Message - From: Lee Evans To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions There is no reliable test for FIP. Your cat tested positive for corona virus. Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill. FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it. FIP is not rare but it's definitely not very prevalent. I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona virus. He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract. He was also a street cat, in poor health in general. Lee From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions YES! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote: Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE
That is great news!! Good question Natalie!! - Original Message - From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE That's great news - so glad to hear it. I wonder what happens if the inhalant gas gets into the eyes somehow Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Anne Myles Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE Well I got surprisingly good news when I stopped at the vet around 5:00! Dublin is calmer, he drank and ate well, AND his pupils are showing light reflex now!! They constricted and he even flinched away when the vet shone the light in his eyes. So at least he should be able to sense light and dark, and with this much improvement in one afternoon who knows what there will be in a few days? The vet used inhaled anesthetic, not ketamine. It's still a mystery to him why this happened, and he is *extremely* cutting-edge and educated and experienced, and has never seen anything like this. It's not from hypoxia as the way they do the anesthetic apparently prevents that (the patient is getting oxygen during and after), not hypertension as that would show signs in the eye. Maybe something neurologic related to the FeLV? The vet and I are both frustrated not to know, but it's so hopeful that he is getting -- and feeling -- somewhat better. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if given the vaccination.. This is too important not to mention L - Original Message - From: Lee Evans To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions There is no reliable test for FIP. Your cat tested positive for corona virus. Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill. FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it. FIP is not rare but it's definitely not very prevalent. I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona virus. He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract. He was also a street cat, in poor health in general. Lee From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions YES! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote: Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
Vicky..abt kitty #2 that you said vomits a lot, it isn't necesaraly b/c he's long haired..I assume you meant he hacks up hairballs, or does he vomits clear liquid? Clear could be trying to bring up a hairball too but at 11 I'd have him checked for a renal condition. Cats with CRF throw up very often, I had a 10 yr old that was sick almost every other day, she was fine otherwise but her kidneys were failing. I didn't know the first year until she had a senior panel. So if you haven't done it, I'd suggest you go that route for him. Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
