Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator -
Marlene, Please try the Winstrol. It works amazingly well for FelV cats with anemia. I have not heard the same about Immunoregolin or any other drugs used for FelV. Some of us in the Felv group have found Winstrol online. Lorrie and 42 rescued cats - 12 cats at home, and 30 in my private cageless sanctuary. Lorrie On 10-28, marlene melpignano wrote: > Thanks Kat and Amani for support and suggestions. Unfortunately I > currently live in Brussels where they have ZERO experience on felv > cats. As medicaments, in Europe we only have interferon, that I > cannot use at the same time of prednisone, but without it the > anemia prevails... in Belgium they proposed me cyclosporine, which > is not used at all in Italy. My Italian vet read about LTCI and > thinks we should give it a try, but it's very complicated to get it > in Europe, and a German veterinary specialised in virology told me > there are no scientific proofs that immunomodulator are effective > in Felv. And I cannot find anything recent about them in academics > articles.. > > Sorry for bothering, but Europe is hundreds years behind you ... > > > Inviato da iPhone > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help
Seriously - try the Winstrol. I had very good results with it, and several others on our chatline have had good results as well. If it is complicated to get the LTCI, then it may well be easier to get the Winstrol. By the way, I am in Canada, and we had to ship the LTCI from the U.S. Also, I don't think vets ANYWHERE are experienced with FeLV since they all just recommend putting the cat down. The experiences of others on our chatline, shows that to be the case, and we have heard from people in South Africa and South America as well as all over the U.S., and parts of Canada. Many of us have had to fight with our vets to get them to obtain Winstrol or to try any treatment at all for the FeLV. You are not alone in that regard. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of marlene melpignano Sent: October-28-17 4:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help Thanks Kat and Amani for support and suggestions. Unfortunately I currently live in Brussels where they have ZERO experience on felv cats. As medicaments, in Europe we only have interferon, that I cannot use at the same time of prednisone, but without it the anemia prevails... in Belgium they proposed me cyclosporine, which is not used at all in Italy. My Italian vet read about LTCI and thinks we should give it a try, but it's very complicated to get it in Europe, and a German veterinary specialised in virology told me there are no scientific proofs that immunomodulator are effective in Felv. And I cannot find anything recent about them in academics articles.. Sorry for bothering, but Europe is hundreds years behind you ... Inviato da iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help
Thanks Kat and Amani for support and suggestions. Unfortunately I currently live in Brussels where they have ZERO experience on felv cats. As medicaments, in Europe we only have interferon, that I cannot use at the same time of prednisone, but without it the anemia prevails... in Belgium they proposed me cyclosporine, which is not used at all in Italy. My Italian vet read about LTCI and thinks we should give it a try, but it's very complicated to get it in Europe, and a German veterinary specialised in virology told me there are no scientific proofs that immunomodulator are effective in Felv. And I cannot find anything recent about them in academics articles.. Sorry for bothering, but Europe is hundreds years behind you ... Inviato da iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help
Marlene - I should also have added to my last email, that you shouldn’t be surprised if you get an unusual response from your vet, to the suggestion of using Winstrol. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid, and has unfortunately been implicated in a number of athletic "doping" scandals and so it can sometimes be difficult to obtain. You said you are in Italy, and I actually think it may not be as difficult to access Winstrol in Europe as it is in North America, but I don’t know that for sure. It is possible that your vet will need to get the Winstrol from a compounding pharmacy. However, the medication is not very expensive and I have had very good success with it with my FeLV cat who was in severe crisis and close to death. I have also found it very helpful in a wide array of other conditions since is it a muscle builder, bone builder and improves appetite and strength. (You can see why athletes often use it to become stronger and faster and heal faster as well.) Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of marlene melpignano Sent: October-28-17 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back. Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell immunomodulator) Thanks a lot, Marlène (an Italian desperate cat mother) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help
Hi Marlene I methodically tried both the Immunoregulin and the LTCI. We gave weekly injections and performed weekly bloodwork, which showed no appreciable change in the haematology or other blood parameters. However, others on this chatline have had good results with those treatments. I suggest that if you are going to try either of these treatments, you perform weekly bloodwork as we did, and if there is no change, move on. Alternatively, what I did find very effective, was using Winstrol (stanazolol) along with prednisolone and Doxycycline. Again, performing weekly bloodwork showed an immediate uptick in the red cell count and haematocrit, and it rose steadily thereafter from a level of 5 (critically low) to normal levels between 25 and 35 after about 10 months of treatment. The other blood parameters also improved (platelets going from critically low numbers to within reference range) and white cells also returning to reference range levels. I had good luck using a combination of Doxycycline (1/2 100 mg twice a day) plus Winstrol (1 mg x2 day) plus prednisone/prednisolone (1/2 5 mg tablet x2 a day). Even on this protocol, I recommend close weekly or bi-weekly monitoring so you can see if you start getting a rise in the red cell indices, etc. Don’t let your vet talk you out of one or another of these medications. You can’t substitute another antibiotic for the Doxycycline, for example. Doxycycline has anti-RNA properties (which allows it to interfere with the replication of viruses when other antibiotics don’t do this.) Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of marlene melpignano Sent: October-28-17 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back. Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell immunomodulator) Thanks a lot, Marlène (an Italian desperate cat mother) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help
Hi Marlene,
I do not have any experience with either Immunoregulin or LTCI, but I am sure others on this list can help you. Hpefully they will check in before the weekend is over. I am sending you positive energy vibes from the NJ in the USA.
Kat
('Mew' Jersey)
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 10:40 AM
From: "marlene melpignano"
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
Subject: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help
Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back.
Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell immunomodulator)
Thanks a lot,
Marlène (an Italian desperate cat mother)
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[Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help
Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back. Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell immunomodulator) Thanks a lot, Marlène (an Italian desperate cat mother) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
