[Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS
Xana passed away last Thursday of severe anemia. Xana got much worse in the last two weeks. Nothing could help her. She has not reached 3 years. -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%20Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS
Thanks Natalie, I am very sorry for you and your kitty as well this is the worst with cats, they can be very bad and they are beautiful and you do not realize they are really ill 2011/7/20 Natalie at...@optonline.net I am so sorry, Esther! It's always so hard to lose a furry one. Last week, unexpectedly, and without any warning, one of the very healthy 15 yr old cats started having some problems on Monday night. We had to euthanize him on Friday morning - he had a huge growth in his colon, it actually came out with the colon like a huge sausageno weight loss, eating normally, etc. - he must have been in pain or at least some discomfort for a while, but NEVER let on! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS Xana passed away last Thursday of severe anemia. Xana got much worse in the last two weeks. Nothing could help her. She has not reached 3 years. -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Gracia http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2 0Gracia http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.htm l ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%20Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS
Sara, Lynda and you all, Thank you very much for your sympathy. I will keep fighting for their welfare. 2011/7/20 Sara Kasteleyn skastel...@cicresearch.com Esther, I'm so sorry for your loss. We will add a candle to light her way to Rainbow Bridge tonight. A hug for you in your sorrow, Sara --Original Mail-- From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Snt: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:56:40 +0200 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS Xana passed away last Thursday of severe anemia. Xana got much worse in the last two weeks. Nothing could help her. She has not reached 3 years. -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Gracia http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%20Gracia http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%20Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although the vet is not 100% sure. She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased. Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative, 1/10). About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at low dose... dayly for at least 3 months. I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise?? -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%20Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
Thank you for your answer. Indeed, FIP is always a posibility, but in this case, is not clear and the antibiotic good response seems to confirm it. I had dealed with PIF 4 times and know well it. The wet is not worried about it. But, in any case, I am not sure about toxoplasma. Protein is altered, high gamma but normal albumina in blood work . A/G ratio is 0,4. The anemia is caused because the Fel viruses is in the bone marrow. The vet suggest low dose omega interferon orally, at long term... Xana also has chronic flu, i mean feline herpesvirus. Btw i am cat rescue person, Xana was trapped when she was a kitten I was lucky to find a fostering home. She is the only cat at home... Well, any idea will be very usefull And sorry, english is not my language. Thanks again El 14/06/2011 21:30, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com escribió: I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past - there really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats. it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone marrow, which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a short term. What was the lab work look like? Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any chance - you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and sometimes elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia - The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis - Hideyo From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise Leukemia or FeLV? I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we had no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade fever -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although the vet is not 100% sure. She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased. Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative, 1/10). About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at low dose... dayly for at least 3 months. I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise?? -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Gracia http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2 0Gracia http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.htm l ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
I am in Barcelona,Spain. Xana do not have uveitis, but one of her eyes has an old injury. She has been on L-Lysine for last two years El 14/06/2011 22:10, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com escribió: What country are you in? I also rescue, I lost so many cats to dry FIP in the past - how is her eye? - is there any uevitis in either of her eye? Lysine may also help if she has chronic URI. Hideyo Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:53:00 +0200 From: estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise Thank you for your answer. Indeed, FIP is always a posibility, but in this case, is not clear and the antibiotic good response seems to confirm it. I had dealed with PIF 4 times and know well it. The wet is not worried about it. But, in any case, I am not sure about toxoplasma. Protein is altered, high gamma but normal albumina in blood work . A/G ratio is 0,4. The anemia is caused because the Fel viruses is in the bone marrow. The vet suggest low dose omega interferon orally, at long term... Xana also has chronic flu, i mean feline herpesvirus. Btw i am cat rescue person, Xana was trapped when she was a kitten I was lucky to find a fostering home. She is the only cat at home... Well, any idea will be very usefull And sorry, english is not my language. Thanks again El 14/06/2011 21:30, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com escribió: I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past - there really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats. it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone marrow, which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a short term. What was the lab work look like? Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any chance - you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and sometimes elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia - The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis - Hideyo From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise Leukemia or FeLV? I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we had no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade fever -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although the vet is not 100% sure. She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased. Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative, 1/10). About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at low dose... dayly for at least 3 months. I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise?? -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Gracia http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2 0Gracia http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.htm l ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Feral cats - PETA
http://www.animalalliancenyc.org/nycfci/ToTestOrNotToTest.pdf http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=429 In Barcelona (Spain) protectionist organizations and volunteers that work with ferals cats are definitevely againts sistematic killer of positive FelV and FIV cats. We also have support of many vets... but not all, Government agencies use to kill all the cats they trap Dr Julie Levy was recently in BCN and we agree totally with her. What we do: If the cat is healthy and has to be released, we definitively will not test them... Nevertheless We always test all the ill cats or those intented to be placed for adoption and those that can be accommodated in a non killer shelter -- Esther = ^..^ = ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon-Article that explains why I now give it 2x daily
*Do you use interferon (alfa) with asymptomatic cats or once they become ill???* 2009/9/30 Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net Here are some excerpts from some research on Interferon-I have been giving it 2x a day-orally 1 cc to Rosie and Murphy. I had been giving it onece a day to the other 4 that passed away. I always give it right before the canned food-they both come into the kitchen and pester me, Murphy bangs the cabinet door until I get the little syringe filled. Then they sit and wait for the little squirt, Rosie will tilt her head sideways-she likes it squirted on the right side of her mouth, I don't have to force them to take it, it's just the routine. I even tasted it, just tastes like saline solutine-similar to sinus rinse or saline nasal spray. I have not noticed any side effects, except maybe lately, combined with the Imulan treatments the last 2 weeks-they are playing much more and are awake for longer periods and are looking for things to get into. They are making up for being so sick the first year. WHY IS DAILY DOSING BETTER? Jere Hough Three Times Weekly Is A Terribly Poor Way to Dose Interferon This is a great article and also discusses the development of longer acting pegylated interferons to better manage the peak and valley effects of the current generation of Interferons: “PEAKS AND VALLEYS - Because interferon has a half-life in serum of only about 7 -10 hours. This means it peaks in the body at about 12 hours and is then rapidly metabolized and excreted. At 24 hours after injection it is barely measurable. By 36 hours it is not detectable with current measurements. During this peak the is a rapid, dramatic drop in viral load. As the levels of interferons quickly drop to negligible levels at about 24 hours viral loads start rapidly climbing again. By 48 or especially 72 hours much of the gain in viral reduction has been lost. In other words, viral loads in the body fluctuate directly and rapidly along with levels of interferon in serum, and when plotted on a graph look like a sine wave, or a roller coaster. This graph, along with a description of this phenomena, can be viewed on many websites and texts on the subject, including the http://www.roche-hepc.com/ page. These peaks and valleys have been followed for days in human subjects, and are invariably similar in those who respond to IFN. As interferon levels go up viral loads go down immediately. Then as IFN levels drop, viral loads increase again rapidly. In the period from 24 to 48 hours viral loads peak to erase most of the gains made. In standard TIW dosing the increase in viral loads is even more pronounced during the 72 hour break once each week.” 1) NEVER give with food. Inteferon breaks down in the stomach with stomach acid. Always squirt it directly into the mouth where it is absorbed in the mouth and throat lining. #2) ALWAYS keep refridgerated. It's useless if it hits room temperature. Keep unused dilutions frozen until needed. It's unknown how long Interferon stays effective in the fridge. Keep unused dilutions frozen until needed. #3) It's USELESS to do on/off dosing. It MUST be given every 24 hours to maintain consistent levels in the bloodstream. (See excerpts below regarding peaks and valleys). It must be kept in the blood at all times. On/Off protocols are worthless because it progresses forward in times of no intervention. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Esther = ^..^ = ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
I am new to this group. I live in Spain and have some language difficults, so, sorry for the faults. I am an active member of a cat rescue group. In july I found a kitten in the street with the eyes seriously dammaged. We went to the vet and all was well, excep the positive result to FelV. A friend on mine is fostering her. She seems to be healthy and hapy. I want to give her an opportunity to live with good QOL as long as possible. Unfortunately most vets does not share my opinion, and they think it is not worth. I insist... I read all I can find. I am giving Xana L-Lysina (for her eye condicion) Vetinmune (as inmunomodulator) And I insist to put her on interferon. The vet said that -in that subclinic stadium- the alfa (humane) interferon is the election treatment. When symtoms appear, then it will be the moment to give the omega interferon... My questions are: 1) HAVE ANYONE EXPERIENCE IN THE USE OF FELINE OMEGA INTERFERON WITH ASYMPTOMATIC CATS?? I know it can not clear the virus, but ... Can it to prevent the development of any of the illness related with FelV?? 2) About propiobacterium acnes. I cant find it in Spain. The laboratory does not produce it anymore, and change it for a new product: Corynebacterium parvum (inmufort complex (R). It is used for cows. A colegue (that has a FelV shelter) wrote me to advice she is using it in her 8 FelV+ cats... she said is working well... her oldest cat is now 8 years old. 3) Xana has also chronic diarrhea, in spite I put her on intestinal diet, does no make solid faeces... Any other non invasive tratment can be usefull??? Thanks for your atention Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
