O/T
Hi, all, I don't communicate nearly as often as I should, but I read the posts and keep up with you guys. My 16 year old siamese, Delilah,is not eating well at all- her son, Sammy died this summer as a result of FELV-he lived to be 15, though!!! with many thanks to advice and love on this list- so she is still grieving for him. She only weighs 6 pounds and is very petite.I give her any canned food she will eat-she has sworn off of her dry science diet, etc. At this point, she only likes certain few fancy feast turkey and chicken mixtures, and (people) bumblebee tuna, and beechnut baby chicken and turkey and beef meats. (no onion). Canned chicken, too. I have an array of foods in the cabinet for her!! Also likes Tyson's already cooked chicken breasts which we share. The vet has suggested cyproheptadine (periactin- an antihistimine) as an appetite stimulant 2 mg. twice daily. She is also on tapizole 2 mg. 2 times daily for hyperthyroidism. Her coat looks great, now, and no knobby spine!! She absolutely hates being pilled. I have to mummy her. I am trying the pill pouches, -she hates them,too- I have the tapizole in pill form, also in a transdermal gel, but her ears are looking inflamed on the inside from the gel, so stopped that. Now I have ordered the tapizole in a suspension from an on line vet. pharmacy in Texas. I have a good compounding pharmacy locally, but they do not make the tapizole in a suspension. My question is, has anyone tried periactin for an appetite stimulant?? She has been on it 4 days and is eating better, I think. Are there any side effects? Any suggestions? Stumbled across this link by accident, and found alot of little nuggets of info., so wanted to share. Helene http://www.thensome.com/cats.htm
RE: O/T
Thank you both, Phaewryn and Belinda(Hi! Belinda, I remember you well-you added Sam's name to the Rainbow Bridge list this past July; thank you...)anyhow, .I am concerned that the periactin might cause drowsiness,as some antihistimines do in people. Sam was on winstrol for a long time for his appetite; it is an anabolic steroid, and worked well. I frankly did not think about it for Delilah before ordering the periactinHelene _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 6:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: O/T I've never tried periactin. I do believe that injected valium (I'm pretty sure it's valium I am thinking of) is a great appetite stimulant, but... it's an injection, so it's something you have to go to the vet for, thus, not good for anything long term. I do think you should try it, you don't really have anything to lose. The next step would be either syringe feeding or tube feeding. Phaewryn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight __ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com
RE: P.S. Re: Popeye
Wendy; I started Delilah (Sam's 16 year old mother) on Tapisole 5 mg. two times a day two months ago. Unless I can get it in on the first try while she is mummied in a towel, there's no need to try again. She was diagnosed at that time with hyperthyroidism. Her T-level was 13, and I belive normal is 4. (?) I knew about the transdermal gel; my vet mentioned it. Is it really is absorbed well on the inside of the ear? I know she feels much better, her coat is shiny, and she has put on a little weight but what a struggle.!!! I know I should not compare, but giving Sam five meds a day including injections 2X a week, and subcu fluids, was easier. He did not like it, but he let me do it for 7 years.I am thankful it was not Delilah...(He could read my mind and know when I was thinking about giving them and run and find a nice hiding place!!!) Anyhow, I am anxious to hear more about the gel. I hope Tonya lets everyone know about Popeye Helene 0 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 9:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: P.S. Re: Popeye If Popeye is hyper-T, the meds can reverse some of the damage to the heart if the heart problems are related to the hyper-T. You should use the transdermal gel (rubbed into the ear) because of the difficulty in giving Popeye meds. That's what Julie gets and she doesn't even know she's getting meds. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: popeye is sick
Tonya, I will say heartfelt prayers for Popeye..I don't blameyou about not going to the Emergency vet if at all possible..Just love him while you can; he has been so happy with you, I know...how old is he? You mentioned 'his time' and I figure he may be elderly as well as very sick Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgCc: tam; Barb Schwartz; TammySubject: popeye is sick I worked very late tonight and came home to find my Popeye very lethargic. He would not eat. I am taking him to the vet in the morning, but I think it may be his time. He is the cat who has high blood pressure and is going blind that I can't pill. I think he may have congestive heart failure as he seems to be wheezing when he breathes. I syringed him some water and tuna juice, but I just don't want to put him through going to the emergency vet. I'm going to take him in tomorrow and hope for the best, but be prepared to let him go. :( tonya
RE: Patches
I think if Patches does come back again, he will surely come to you! I have told my wonderful Sam (Who crossed the bridge July 15th) the very same thing. You made such a difference in his life...Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:26 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Patches Diane, I'mvery sorry about Patches. His life was so much better because of you. Gina Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morningmy housemate Gail and Ihad to make the decision to help Patches to the Bridge. As you know, he's been refusing all food -- or he'd taste it once and then the next time ignore it. In the past few days it became apparent that swallowing was becoming an issue, so we took him to the vet this morning. The vet said his lymph nodes were swollen and he seemed to be in pretty classic crash mode, and rather than put him through more unpleasantness with syringing and pills, we chose to let him go. We stayed with him until he was gone, quickly and peacefully. When he came to us, he was filthy and full of vermin, and it was days before he would let us touch the parts of his body where the mats had been. When he left, at least, he was clean and loved to be petted all over. This at least we could do for him, and give him all the love and care we could. This morning, I told him that if it turns out he gets another time around, he should come back to us. He was a dear little soul, and we will miss him. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to our Patches. I want to thank everybody here for their support and caring and wonderful information during this brief sojourn with Patches. You have all been beyond great. Diane R. ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^= ^ = = ^ = = ^ = = ^ = = ^ = = ^ = = ^ ="Nice kitty!" -- Prof. Radcliffe Emerson The Snake, the Crocodile and the Dog^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^ ^. .^= ^ = = ^ = = ^ = = ^ = = ^ = = ^ = = ^ = Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...
Hideyo; I have just returned home after being in S.C. for a week...only to read your sad, beautiful memorial to Peter.I understand, having just recently lost my precious Sam. The way your heart hurts cannot be described..and the tears do not stop flowing. Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:06 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon... Thank you, Gina.. I am missing him everyday.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:04 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon... What a beautiful goodbye letter Hideyo. My heart is filled with sadness for you and for all the other list members who have lost their precious babies recently. GinaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter Peter has crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about two hours ago it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so much I just cant believe how quickly he passed away and I just numb not feeling much One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi and then I lost Peter.. my words cannot express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I know that their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart eternally.Heres to my baby Peter.. Dear My Peter, Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I could have spent more time with you.. When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you were so talkative and full of energy I cannot help thinking that your life would have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I know in my heart that you got something that made you very sick from my other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against whatever illness that you were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that I couldnt make it go away Peter, I know you have already forgiven things as you have heart of angel I treasure the memory that I have had with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you had to go so soon.. you are only a little over a year old.. I am going to miss you so much,, but the thought of your soul continue to live gives me a courage to continue to live.. love so dearly and love forever,, Your mama.. No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.__ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System.http://www.nod32.com
RE: Naomi has become an angel...
That was a beautiful way for Naomi to leave this earthly world, in the arms of the person who lovedher unconditionally .you, Hideyo..my prayers that your pain will become bearable..Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kandbz_ momSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:53 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Naomi has become an angel... I'm sorry to hear about Naomi. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. KarenHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part of my life and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be always together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time together as much as possible.. and she did for me.. After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her transition Now, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I cant express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her beautiful eyes but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with the pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a long time I have become a bit stronger because of Naomi her vitality taught me to be as strong as she is.. Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi --- And please (I dont know whom I should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you.. Hideyo and Naomi.. Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
Hideyo, I send prayers as well. Naomi feels your love surrounding her..Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. Hideyo, I am praying for you and for Naomi and sending thoughts of peace and comfort your way. I cannot even imagine having to be at work while my baby is at home making her final journey...it must be torture for you! But know that you have done everything you can possibly do and that because of you she has known love, companionship, and a quality of care that she otherwise would not have had. She is lucky tohave you! Hugs!! MarissaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and cant get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace Do you Yahoo!?Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
RE: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
Parafon forte is RX, not OTC. So is soma; from long, long experience I can tell you that parafon is better than soma because it does not cause you to feel drugged or sleepy. And it works!I keep a supply on hand at all times! Some of the newest docs don't prescribe it cause it has been used for so long it's been forgotten. that they only hear about and prescribe the new ones. Granted, there are a lot of newer muscle relaxants out there, but most of them have the tendency to make you feel groggy! Get an RX and try it!! Besides, it is much cheaper than the ones the drug reps try to push!!! Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk Thank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk. I forwarded your messages to my husband at work yesterday. We paid a chiropractor $3500 yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items. I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he won't be able to continue to work if this doesn't help. I'll let all of you know how it worked. If it doesn't work, hopefully we won't have to worry about pre-existing as he hasn't seen a medical doctor about the problem. I wanted to ask Mary Christine about parafon-forte and soma. Are these both medicines OTC, or does he need a prescrip for them? I have been coaxing my husband each time he has an episode to try to relax and not tense up, but it's hard for him not to. Thank you again for helping us out!!! As always, this site has proved invaluable. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
You said it all and said it so eloquently!!! I also know about the pillows, driving , and all of the little things which are really the big things in dealing with (back) pain..you speak from experience..yes, robaxin is one that is tried and true, also- I had forgotten about that drug.You are right,as I , too, mentioned earlier, the drug reps push the newer and much more expensive drugs.What is funny is that when I spend the night in someone else's home, they say, "Oh, you didn't have to bring your own pillow", and I have to explain that oh yes I did.,, Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCatsSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:34 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk it's funny, helene, because while the parafon forte helped with the pain, it was the soma that enabled me to get back to work after my first two surgeries--so much depends on one's own individual response to a medication. soma NEVER made me drowsy or feel drugged; it almost felt as if it energized me by removing the constant strain of trying to deal with the pain. yet i had a housemate who used my soma as her addiction of choice. it may also have to do with what they're learning about people with chronic pain and their reaction to meds in general--that, for example, people with high levels of chronic pain do not respond to opiates the same way people without it do--that things like vicodin and others do NOT tend to create dependence as they do for people without chronic pain. i know for myself, that if i take a vicodin in the morning when i wake up, it enables me to make it through the day without another one yet when i've had to take it for an acute condition, unrelated to the back problems (like, oh, having all my teeth pulled last month, or for a second-degree burn a few months ago), half of one knocked me out! robaxin is another old-school drug that many people had good results with in the past. like soma and parafon forte, they're generics so no one makes a lot of money on them, and thus drug reps don't push them--never forget that docs get almost no pharmaceutical education in school, and way too many never do more than take the word of the drug reps for what they should prescribe. of course it's hard to not tense up when the pain is most intense! i learned to remind myself that the pain is coming from an irritated nerve, and the longer i do things to keep it irritated (ie, walk, move, you know, those sorts of things), the longer it was gonna take for the nerve to have a chance to calm down. you just have to STOP and let it be. something else i finally figured out, after about three years, was how TIRING it is to be in pain--it takes a lot of energy to function with such an insult to your system going on. so getting a medication that works for the individual, and doing gentle stuff like stretching exercises all the time, really makes a difference. other little accommodations: experiment with pillow and supports for the car and for furniture in the house. i can tell within 5 minutes if a chair or a bed or a couch or a car seat is gonna kill me--and i'd rather be on the floor than in one of those that's gonna make things worse. a simple pillow of the right consistency can make a HUGE difference! talk to your chiro about prescribing an obus forme chair support--has an adjustable lumbar pillow, you can carry it from car to chair to friend's houses--i've taken it on camping trips! i'm still using the one i got back in 78. good luck, and keep us informed... MC On 8/1/06, Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parafon forte isRX, not OTC.So is soma; from long, long experience I cantell you that parafon is better than soma because it does not cause you to feel drugged or sleepy. And it works!I keep a supply on hand at all times!Some of the newest docs don't prescribe it cause it has been used for solong it's been forgotten. that they only hear about and prescribe the new ones.Granted, there are a lot of newer muscle relaxants out there, butmost of them have the tendency to make you feel groggy! Get an RX and tryit!!Besides, it is much cheaper than the ones the drug reps try to push!!! Helene-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of wendySent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:37 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated diskThank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk.I forwardedyour messages to my husband at work yesterday.We paid a chiropractor $3500yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items.I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he wo
RE: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
I have one-ruptured disk- cannot be resolved with surgery, unfortunately, and scoliosis-I have used parafon forte muscle relaxants for years. (RX) Old drug; good; no sleepiness with it. Also Lortab (RX) for the really bad times.you can get naprosyn (SP?) muscle relaxant over the counter. You just double the amount indicated every 4-6 hrsfor prescripton strength.Careful about driving. I have found 2 very helpful things- physical therapy with a good therapist, and exercises every day as soon as the acute pain subsides. (Prescribed by therapist.) If nothing else right now, walk and keep mobile. Massage therapy good too. I could go on and on, but I think that is enough. Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:37 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk I'm not much help - but I hope so much he feels better soon! elizabeth In a message dated 7/30/2006 9:03:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi guys,As always, I trust your opinion. My husband has beenhaving horrible back problems after laying this tilein our house, and he had an MRI last Thursday. TheMRI showed herniated disks in L4 and L5. We arevisiting a chiropractor right now, as his new healthinsurance does not kick in for another six weeks, andwe need SOMETHING done, as his pain level is quitebad. He is not having pain in his back, but sciaticpain, shooting down from his butt and down his leg tothe fold of his knee, all on his left side. Have anyof you had any experience, direct or indirect, withherniated disks? Any advice? I am not sold on thechiropractor, and would like a doctor's opinion, butwe have to wait six more weeks. The chiropractor istrying to push spinal decompression, but it's notcovered by insurance and is several thousand dollars. Also, any advice on pain management for this type ofinjury?Thanks,Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System.http://www.nod32.com
depression
Any suggestions for Delilah, who is still so, so depressed-goes mourning through the house. Lots and lots of love is the most I can do.. I was hoping someone has experience with rescue remedy drops (Bach) from the health food store- or just experience with this awful disruption in her life. Helen Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am not there; I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow; I am the diamond glints on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain; I am the gentle autumn's rain. When you awake in the morning's hush I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circled flight. I am the soft star that shines at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry. I am not there, I did not die. Anonymous
RE: depression
Thanks, Wendy and MarylynI know lots of love and time is the best.Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: depression Hi Helene, I haven't ever used Rescue Remedy or Feliway, but many people here think they both work great to reduce stress. Time and your love will be what heals Delilah. Here's to a speedy recovery for her heart. :) Wendy --- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions for Delilah, who is still so, so depressed-goes mourning through the house. Lots and lots of love is the most I can do.. I was hoping someone has experience with rescue remedy drops (Bach) from the health food store- or just experience with this awful disruption in her life. Helen Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am not there; I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow; I am the diamond glints on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain; I am the gentle autumn's rain. When you awake in the morning's hush I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circled flight. I am the soft star that shines at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry. I am not there, I did not die. Anonymous __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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http://www.aloevera.co.uk//felinelv.htm link to aloevera acemannan- hope it can help. Sam was on it 5 years ago. Helene
RE: Some advice please-elderly cat...
I agree with the freedom. It's not much of a life in a cage... none of us would want to be confined that way. Rather to take the chances that come with freedom. The thought of that hurts my heart. Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:38 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Some advice please-elderly cat... I think Rita would agreehowever, she has a bunch of elder cats most of whom have some sort of med problem and are pretty vulnerable to all sorts of things. Shes trying to work something out They only had snap test. She will get IFA but question is should she wait a bit? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MarylynSent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:29 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Some advice please-elderly cat... At that age let them have all the freedom they need/want. They deserve it. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Some advice please-elderly cat... Chris,Please remind your friend of what we say on the list, "when it dries, it dies". I am convinced there would be no added danger to the other cats if they shared a space, at different times of the day. That said, there are never any guarantees. That's why so many vets advocate pts, or segregation. At 16 years of age, I think the risks to the other cats are of far less concern than Mischief being cooped up in a cage 24/7 for the rest of her life. If she can give those two geriatric buddies some freedom and a better quality of life for whatever time they have left, I'm sure they would be grateful. In any sanctuary situation there is always the concern over cross-contaminations. I don't, however, think there is any more reason for concern in this instance. Does she intend to test Mischief again? I'm not sure what "light positive" truly indicates as far as prognosis goes. I do know that I've heard of many cats that test "light pos", re-testing neg at a later.Wish her luck and blessings from us,NinaChris wrote: Rita, from Purrever Ranch, asked me to post this as she cant seem to be able to post herself Have a 16 yr old black cat that has tested VERY LIGHT positive TWICE. Her lifelong buddy has tested neg each time remains with her. I have to keep them caged (large upright). They have an inside cage a porch cage. "Mischief" appears in the best of health, eats great, poops beautifully shows no signs or symptoms of disease or illness. Would it be safe for me to shut a room at night for them let them have some freedom if I picked up ALL bowls Litterboxes in the morning? And what exactly IS light positive? Not sure what light positive means. I asked if this was on Elissa or IFA Rita runs a hospice for senior cats many of whom have various med problems so she is concenred about exposing their already compromised immune systems to FELV and exposing the FELV cat to other diseases. Any ideas? Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Stealth Volunteer in NYJoin Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animalshttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/stealthvolunteers/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006__ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System.http://www.nod32.com
RE: Off Topic - Rocket, our Great Dane, is gone
Amy, I am so sorry about your sweet Rocket...I had a 10 mo. old baby (not the same as a newborn) and a doberman puppy at the same time. The saving grace was a large crate for Bishop (the dobe.) in the kitchen. And lots and lots of mild disinfectant-but no spray cans!! and paper towels for the kitchen floor accidents.at least we had a fenced back yard.I think it depends on how badly you want anotherGreat Daneat this time . You probably will get crazy alot, but at least your heart won't hurt nearly as much . Make a written list of pros and cons before you decide...and at least wait a week. Is this your first baby? They take alot more time than you would think Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:00 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Off Topic - Rocket, our Great Dane, is gone Amy, I am so sorry to hear about Rocket. I know it seems quiet at your house right now. As far as getting a puppy I think I would wait. Having a baby is such a hard job by itself that I don't think I'd want to take on a new puppy at the same time. If you do decide to get a dog I recommend you get a very calm breed, older dog who won't mind having his tail pulled, his ears pulled, and a crawling baby getting into his dog dish! My sister had a baby with 3 dogs. One was afraid of the baby and stayed out of his sight as much as possible. The other tried to bite him (but she was a little 18 year old yorkie with no teeth left. lol) The 3rd dog was a basset, beagle, jack russell mix who licked all over the baby and played with him and let him pull his tail and ears, ride on his back etc.. Just a very easy going dog. You have to be careful because children don't understand about hurting animals until they reach a certain age. tonyaAmy Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,You probably remember me posting trying to find a homefor a kitty a few weeks ago because I'm pregnant andhad a Great Dane with bone cancer and couldn't take itin. Well I'm just writing to let you know that we lost ourGreat Dane this week. I've lost so many cats toleukemia that I thought I was prepared for this but Iwasn't. It's awful. Rocket did everything with us,even squeezed into our bed at night despite therebeing no room with us and 5 kitties. Rocket isn't acat but he was as much part of our family as our fivekitties who now miss him terribly.I also have one question. I'm heartbroken and I misshim terribly and want to go out and get another one. Whenever I lose a kitty, I always go find another oneto rescue. I'm not replacing the one that is lost butit helps me move on. I'm expecting a baby Sep 6th andeverybody tells me I'm crazy to think about a puppybut our house is so empty without a Great Dane and thecats miss him as much as we do. Has anybody everraised a puppy and a newborn at the same time? Anysuggestions or thoughts? Is it selfish to bring apuppy in right now?Amy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Patty's addy for cards and letters
Thanks for the address, Terrie my previous Vit. C question? Rescue remedy for Delilah? Anyone? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:01 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Patty's addy for cards and letters Hey Patty! Have you gotten your card from us yet? It's in the mail Do let me know when you get it! Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
RE: Prayers for Dodger
Sending healing prayers and thoughts for Dodger. Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:11 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Prayers for Dodger Prayers for Dodger! t"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing thoughts for your sweet Dodger, Sherry. I hope he feels better real soon. hugs, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaanSent: Friday, July 28, 2006 5:53 AMTo: FelvtalkSubject: Prayers for Dodger Hi all my sweet sanctuary boy Dodger (one of about 5 that have a BIG extra place in my heart) could use some healing prayers.He just isn't quite himself lately not eating as much as he used to.He is a sweet toothless guy and it took a while to win him over,but now he loves just about everyone.Thought maybe some Healing prayers from all you wonderful people might help. :)Thank you so much Sherry and the boys Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Our Clack is gone
I understand, and I am so, so sorry..it hurts so much. It is wonderful, though, that he is free to romp and play once again... helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:50 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Our Clack is gone Oh no - I am so very sorry.elizabeth -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 8:36 PMSubject: Our Clack is gone Hey everyone, I know it hasn't been that long ago that I reported that we had lost our Miss Kitty to FeLV. Now, not even a month later we've lost Clack. He was 12 years old and I'm pretty sure he was negative. He lived outside with his brother Click. He was acting a bit abnormal yesterday and this morning. I went out to give him some canned food that he dearly loves and he ran off into the woods away from me. When I got home tonight, he was lying on his side under our van with his mouth open panting. I thought he was already gone, but he was still breathing. I rushed him to the vet and they told us that he was not responding to the oxygen, that he had a mass in his chest and that his pupils weren't responding to light. They recommended PTS since they didn't think he would make it overnight. This has happened so suddenly. I'm numb with shock. Clack and his brother, Click, arrivedas small kittens when their mom showed up in our yard. They were all feral, but we managed to tame Mama Kitty and Click. We were never able to hold Clack or scratch behind his ears until tonight.I held him and told him that it was OK if he needed to go. We're pretty sure that he waited until we got home and made sure that he was some place we could see him. He could have just gone off into the woods to die. This is never easy. We'rehaving him cremated. Now he's with his mother at Rainbow Bridge. She passed away a few years ago very suddenly. Now Click is left without his brother and Mama. Could you please add Clack to the Candlelight Service as a non positive? He was a black kitty with a white spot on his chest. Thanks so much for listening. This group has been there for me a lot in the past 3 years (since I discovered you all after we rescued Miss Kitty her kittens). Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.__ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System.http://www.nod32.com
RE: Alex
Love and prayers for Alex.Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:15 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Alex Prayersgoing upfor you and Alex. elizabeth In a message dated 7/19/2006 8:01:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all I was wondering if I could get some prayers for sweet Alex,he is not doing real well and he is at the clinic,Jen is doing what she can for him.He is anemic and just not getting any better.Thanks all Sherry,Rafferty,CousCous and Xander Do you Yahoo!?Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System.http://www.nod32.com
FW: I killed Grayson
-Original Message- From: Helene Hand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:58 PM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: I killed Grayson Oh, Tonya, a truth to hold to right now is that Grayson snuggled into your loving heart for a short time and of course you deeply mourn his passing he was not an just another kitty to care for. He may have been facing months and years of medicines, pain and limitations. His lack of immunity might have contributed to his death. But he is free of pain, now, and has crossed the bridge...I sent a little prayer message up to my sweet Sam to look for a very new soul and welcome him to the peaceful meadows Please, please know that I am putting my arms around you from a distanceYou did not kill Grayson, no, you did not. Helene __ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com
RE: I killed Grayson
Oh, Tonya, a truth to hold to right now is that Grayson snuggled into your loving heart for a short time and of course you deeply mourn his passing he was not an just another kitty to care for. He may have been facing months and years of medicines, pain and limitations. His lack of immunity might have contributed to his death. But he is free of pain, now, and has crossed the bridge...I sent a little prayer message up to my sweet Sam to look for a very new soul and welcome him to the peaceful meadows Please, please know that I am putting my arms around you from a distanceYou did not kill Grayson, no, you did not. Helene __ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com
memorial service
How do I add Sam's name to the memorial service list? I have not had to think about adding a name, ever. Helene
memorial service/crematorium
Thanks, KatI have been so involved with comforting Delilah, and making the decision to have Sam cremated, and then taking Sam to be cremated,and having my daughter's family in town for Dr. appointments that I have not gotten to the computer to read any of the wonderful condolence notes including Belinda's..am doing so now, and I am sure Belinda will or has already added his name..guess I was compulsively making sure.sorry; it has been so sad and crazy.. Please take a minute to look at the website for the pet crematorium. www.PawsWhiskersandWags.com those of us in this area of Atlanta (Ga.) will find it a very compassionate, comforting place when we need it.. Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: memorial service Helene, I'm so sorry Sam had to leave. I believe Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be adding Sam's name to the list - (at least I Think that's what she indicated in her condolences note). Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Helene Hand wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:44:20 -0400 From: Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: memorial service How do I add Sam's name to the memorial service list? I have not had to think about adding a name, ever. Helene __ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com
Sam is gone
Sam left me at 1:54 PM today.He was weak and nauseated.The vet came to the house and put him to sleep in a kind and gentle manner...After he left, I snuggled Sam in his favorite towel and summer blanket oon the sofa. Delilah , his mother, finally came out of hiding- I lifted her to the sofs and showed Sammy to her. She licked his face, and his ears, then bounded awayI talked to her and I feel sure she understands! Belinda, would you please post Sam for me for the memorial? My heart is so empty, but peaceful for him...Helene Good night, Sweet Prince, And flights of angels Sing thee to thy rest.. Hamlet; William Shakespeare
RE: Sam
Thank you, Nina! Have no idea what did it.no undue stress, etc. I had stopped the procrit a year ago since we figuredhis marrow was making RBCs. Please tell me more about immuno-regulinand I will read up on it. It has a diabetic sound to it! (?) Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:22 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Sam Hi Helene,I'm so sorry to hear Sam is not feeling well again. I just re-read the post you sent in Aug of 2005 about Sam's story. Was there anything that seemed to trigger this latest bout? What are his symptoms? Michelle, (and others), has had success with Immuno-Regulin, but I don't know if that would be appropriate for Sammy. Many prayers that your miracle boy bounces back once again!NinaHelene Hand wrote: Hi, all! Though a longtime member of the list, have not communicated in a long time. I won't let that happen again. There were several questions-one from Michelle- about whether Sam was always positive. I don't think so. His mother, Delilah is neg. They came to me from a rescue place in 1993. I was assured that the had all of their vaccines- I had written documentation- so until 1999 they received routine vaccines yearly. In 1999 to my shock and dismay Sam tested positive (then we hadseveral mishaps, incorrect testing, andfaulty knowledge on the vet's part) and there you go.He is not an outside cat except when we go on the patio together.Got him into remission finally after a year of touch and go-hard work and love, etc..and words of wisdom from the FELV list.He has been fine until 3 weeks ago, when previous symptoms recurred. I give him all of his meds and fluids at home with my wonderful vet's blessing. I really just thought the rescue remedy drops might make things betterHelene - here is what he is currently on: SAMMYS MEDS: (CURRENT 6/30/06) ½ TAURINE PO DAILY WINSTROL 2 MG PO 2X WK (*TUES/SAT) B-COMPLEX ( PETTINIC) 2 CC PO 1X DAY INTERFERON 1CC PO 1X DAY 7 DAYS ON-7 DAYS OFF VIT B12 .25 CC 1X WK SUBCU ( *TUESDAY) PROCRIT.07 CC 3X WK SUBCU. (140 mg.)(* MON-WEDS-FRI) This had been discontinued, now restarted. LAXATONE ONE DOLLOP EVERY 2-3 DAYS Bolus of 100cc Ringers Lactate subcu with # 21 gauge 1 needle daily He and Delilah also drink filtered water. __ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System.http://www.nod32.com
RE: Sam
Thank you so much, Nina!!! . I will get on it.First I need to see if there are any unwanted interactions with anything I give him. Poor Sam-so many, many needle sticks over the years. Wish you could have a setup like a shunt or port as we have for people... I can doSCIV IM injections on people ( even family) without batting an eye- But my kitty babies?? No, no, no. Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:28 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Sam Procrit is used to boost red blood cell production, so if that were helping maybe the IR would too. I know there has been success with anemia using it. Michelle can tell you more, and others have posted sites about it. I'm sure you can Google it and come up with some stuff. From what I understand about it, (I haven't used it, but I did order some from Revival), it is a bacteria that is administered IV, (Cindy and Smokey on the list used it subq with good results), that helps the body by launching an attack against it and consequently boosting the immune system to fight whatever else might be going on. I know one of the side effect warnings include temp fever spike. I think Michelle said she's given it to two or three of her kitties and only one had the problem with fever. Another member, Kerry Roach had gotten it to try for her kitty, Bandy, but if she's reported back on it, I haven't seen her post. Here's the link to order: http://www.revivalanimal.com/product.asp?pn=31-020ss=immunoregulin It's also called EqStim, (marketed for use in horses), but it's the same med. If after discussing it with your vet, you think it might help, you can order it direct without a prescription. They can overnight it to you too.Blessings,NinaHelene Hand wrote: Thank you, Nina! Have no idea what did it.no undue stress, etc. I had stopped the procrit a year ago since we figuredhis marrow was making RBCs. Please tell me more about immuno-regulinand I will read up on it. It has a diabetic sound to it! (?) Helene__ NOD32 1.1430 (20060304) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System.http://www.nod32.com
RE: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee
Madison Lee is certainly in my thoughts and prayerssounds sucessful!!! Madison's surgery was only $20.00 more than Sam's blood work this past week, and Delilah's blood work last week!! Is Madison Lee a Southern Kitty name, by any chance? Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lora Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee Hi Everyone, I called the vet's office yesterday around 4:30 P.M. for an update on Madison's status and am happy to report that she not only survived the general anesthetic (isoflurane gas), but the operation itself! Due to Madison's age I was SO worried about the use of anesthetic, but she pulled through with flying colors. We picked up Madison from the hospital this afternoon and despite her condition, she acts perfectly normal. As soon as she saw me she pratcially jumped into my arms and when we touched she instantly started to purr and kneed. Here is the breakdown of the current events: 07-08-06 Extreral Examination- $15.00 dollars. 07-12-06 Amputation Surgery of Tumor- $80.00 dollars. 07-12-06 Lab Histopathology (biopsy of tumor)- $38.00. 07-12-06 Radiograph 10 X 12 (X-ray of chest)- 35.00. 07-12-06 Clavamox Drops (an antibiotic)- 14.00. 07-13-06 Current Total $182 (which is NOT a bad price considering we are talking about possible cancer. I which treatment for human cancer was this cheap!) Keep in mind that this is just a running total, because the postoperative appointment will be an additional cost as well as any treatment for cancer IF she has it. Madison's postoperative exam is scheduled for Saturday July the 22nd. That is exactly ten (10) days from her surgery date. Our veterinarian will remove her sutures then. Unlike an invasive spay operation which requires dissolvable sutures, Madison's sugery was external which required non-dissolvable sutures, hence the postoperative appointment. Our veterinarian used a vertical incision which is approximating three (3) inches in length and resulted in seventeen (17) individual stitches. Although Madison was discharged withOUT any pain medication she does not seem to mind. As soon as we returned home she quickly inspected every room in the house to ensure that everything was the way SHE left it (such a queen) and then curled up on the back of the couch (her reserved spot) to take a nap. If she understands the severity of the situation, she clearly does not care. In addition to the surgery and biopsy our veterinarian took an X-ray of her chest to confirm if there was any cancer cells in that area. There was not, her chest cavity can back clean and our veterinarian feels confident that the tumor itself was contained. The word contained is cancer jargon for meaning that a small portion of tissue (usually an inch) surrounding the tumor was clean or cancer-free. In amputation surgery of a possible cancerous tumor, surgeons typically remove some good tissue along with the tumor in hopes that ALL of the cancerous cells have been extracted from the body; thus containing the cancer. This technique is common practice in surgical oncology i.e. colectomies, lumpectomies, mastectomies, etc. as conventional cancer treatments. However, the biopsy report from the diagnostic laboratory pathology department is expected to be received on or before her postoperative appointment. It will be then that our veterinarian will be able to tell us if the tumor was benign or malignant and IF the tumor was malignant what TYPE of cancer it is. If Madison is dignosed with cancer we will discuss a course of treatment i.e. chemotherapy, radiation-therapy, immunotherapy, new/innovative therapies, etc. then. As of right now, we are just focused on Madison recovering from the surgery itself. She made it over the first hurdle (the surgery) now if she can just get over the next (the cancer.) We are not out of the woods yet. Please continue to keep my sweet Madison Lee in your thoughts and prayers. We need all the positive healing vibes that we can get. Thank you to everyone who has emailed replys and posted their well-wishes. We sincerely appreciate it. Hugs, Lora __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: test
Thanks, Wendy!! Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: test i see you helen --- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seeing if I am still on the list before I re-subscribe. Helene __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Sammy and interferon
Hi!1 I seem to mostly lurk, too, now that Sam seems so well, but I have a concern to share with all of you. I do love this list, and there was a timeall of youdefinitely saved Sammy's life with your love and advice. Thank you for everything you have done for us. Okay- Sammy, my 15 year old siamese, and his mother Delilah, 16, came to live with me in 1993. In July of 1999 Sam developed FELV and almost died. He was so sick. Over the next few months he lost down to 7 pounds and I maintained him on IV boluses, a series of Acemannan shots, oral pettinic daily, Vit. B12 subcu., interferon orally,7 dayson-7 off-winstrol orally,procrit s.c. weekly,special foods, including baby meats, dry foods (4 choices!) lots and lots of love and prayers constantly.For a yearit was touch and go.Today, he weighs about 16 pounds, looks and feels great, is definitely the AlphaCat of the household, and has been in remissionand asymptomatic since 2000. Coat is shiny,he is very playful, etc. My question is this: Does anyone know of any detrimental side effects of long-term interferon therapy? There is no need to ask my vet, although wonderful, he lets me call the shots, as he really doesn't know... Sam has been on interferon since 2000. One cc orally for 7 days, then off 7 days.So that is 15 cc a month.I sure don't want to rock the boat, but I know that the interferon causes a degree of dehydration.Anything else? I would like a source of info., and would appreciate anybody's input. He still is on the pettinic daily, the winstrol weekly, and the Vit. B12 subcu. weekly. I discontinued the procritsubcu. a year ago. My wonderful boy seems to be doing fine; but I remind myself to remember that every day is so good for him, but could change in an instant. I don't take anything for granted. Thanks! Guys! Helene
Sammy and interferon
Hi!1 I seem to mostly lurk, too, now that Sam seems so well, but I have a concern to share with all of you. I do love this list, and there was a timeall of youdefinitely saved Sammy's life with your love and advice. Thank you for everything you have done for us. Okay- Sammy, my 15 year old siamese, and his mother Delilah, 16, came to live with me in 1993. In July of 1999 Sam developed FELV and almost died. He was so sick. Over the next few months he lost down to 7 pounds and I maintained him on IV boluses, a series of Acemannan shots, oral pettinic daily, Vit. B12 subcu., interferon orally,7 dayson-7 off-winstrol orally,procrit s.c. weekly,special foods, including baby meats, dry foods (4 choices!) lots and lots of love and prayers constantly.For a yearit was touch and go.Today, he weighs about 16 pounds, looks and feels great, is definitely the AlphaCat of the household, and has been in remissionand asymptomatic since 2000. Coat is shiny,he is very playful, etc. My question is this: Does anyone know of any detrimental side effects of long-term interferon therapy? There is no need to ask my vet, although wonderful, he lets me call the shots, as he really doesn't know... Sam has been on interferon since 2000. One cc orally for 7 days, then off 7 days.So that is 15 cc a month.I sure don't want to rock the boat, but I know that the interferon causes a degree of dehydration.Anything else? I would like a source of info., and would appreciate anybody's input. He still is on the pettinic daily, the winstrol weekly, and the Vit. B12 subcu. weekly. I discontinued the procritsubcu. a year ago. My wonderful boy seems to be doing fine; but I remind myself to remember that every day is so good for him, but could change in an instant. I don't take anything for granted. Thanks! Guys! Helene
test
seeing if I am still on the list before I re-subscribe. Helene
RE: Alternative treatments
I have been away from the list for so long...I need to come back; you were all there when Sam and I needed you the most. Am sending "Our Story" for Margaret to assure her there is alot of hopeHelene -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:10 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Alternative treatments I have two FELV+ who are 7 5+ respectively. I did not know of their diagnosis until last year when they were 6 4. I have 3 non-pos who lived with the 6 year old since kittenhood are still neg. Its not an automatic death sentence particularly for adult cats. You will get a lot of good, more detailed advice from the members of this group. What made the vet test for FELV? Is she displaying any symptoms Diagnosis on my 7 year old was made when I brough her in for not eating general listnessness. Blood test revealed low wbc led to ELISSA IFA tests to confirm. She had series of immuno-regulin twice for the same problem is fine (a real porko that one!). My 5 year old was a stray who spent the first few years of his life on the street he has been symptom free. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of margaret thresherSent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Alternative treatments My cat Misty has just been diagnosed by my vet as positive for feline leukaemia and the vet has told me that there are no real treatments for this condition and that now she has been positively diagnosed she is unlikely to live longer than a year. I have looked through at various sites and am totally confused by the amount of information out there, HELP!!! Can anyone give me any no nonsense advice with regard to holistic treatment availability or indeed any advice. I have been looking at Willard's water and colloidal silver. Does anyone have any information on these or anything that might help her, she is only approximately two years old and I have only had her for six months as she was abandoned by her previous owner.
Sam and Delilah- Sam is FELV positive
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RE: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)
Jenn, please tell me about Innova EVO. Helene -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 1:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT) For the first week of it's release, all anyone had was the small bags. Try calling around now, my local vet got the bigger bags in this past Thursday. I'm not sure what Mythic is allergic to, I never did the entire allergy panel testing on him, but this seems to be helping, and IF it cures him, I WILL know it was the grains! My "sensitive" guy puked it back up and had the runs for the first 3 days, but he soon adjusted, and seems very happy with it now. I probably did the switch too quickly, but I didn't want to buy another bag of the old stuff, so I just immediately did it 1/2 and 1/2 instead of going in smaller increments. He's right here beside me now, happy as can be, looking completely satisfied. Jenn ~~~I've gotten a couple of bags too. Unfortunately, the only size bag available around here seems to be the 2lb for $8. I'll have to special order anything larger. Everyone seems to love it. I've been putting small bowls of it next to their regular dry, (Solid Gold), and they go for it as if I've put out canned tuna! Getting rid of all the unnecessary grains has got to be better for them. I wish they had left out the fruit and veggies too, but oh well. I still can't let Gypsy, (my IBD girl), have any dry, she has to stay exclusively on raw. It certainly is making me feel better about feeding dry to my other furballs though.If your "bald food-allergy" cat, (poor baby), is allergic to grain, then it makes sense that he's (?) doing better.
