Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
Where in Ohio? -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 4:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home Hi guys Are any of you in Ohio or know anyone in Ohio that would take an abandoned cat? My brother is at s campsite and a woman there took in a cat , made it into a housecat and the left it there. She packed up and left for the winter. He said its curled up on the porch on a towel in 20 degree wind chill. I am pissed but I know that isn't helping this poor cat. Everyone will be gone from that campground for the season. My brother is leaving tomorrow. His dog would eat the cat so he can't take it. Shelters r full. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks Marcia Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Picked up Orlandos ashes today
It has been one week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last time. His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he had stopped eating. He was such a wonderful cat, my loving flame point Siamese boy. The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room he reached up and gave me a hug. From then on he was my boy and I can't believe he is gone and I will never see him again in this world. He was about 10 when I adopted him and that was four years ago. He would come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I was working on the computer. If I got up at night to go to the bathroom he would accompany me. Always. I guess that was how I knew it was time. On the last night he didn't do that. He will be SO missed. I hate hate hate this disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing the list again
Best wishes to you also, James. Test e-mails received ok. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] testing the list again Hello all, We seem to have had another glitch with the list. I hope that I have it fixed now. So, I am just sending out a test message to be sure. I hope everyone is doing well. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tweeze is gone.
Tweezer lost his battle with this horrible disease this afternoon. He had an aggressive lymphoma so there was no hope that he would get better or that he could even be made more comfortable. He crashed at the beginning of this week and was having spasms that were making it very difficult for him to eat, drink or even to stand. He has been very unhappy and scared all week long. When I took Tweezer in he was extremely malnourished and had worms, ear mites, goopy eyes and an upper respiratory infection. As his health improved he became such a happy cat! He was so happy to be alive, he always wanted to play and be loved. This is a you-tube link to a video I took of him a few months ago. He would come to me and ask me to come and play with him and then lead me to the toys. http://www.youtube.com/user/katlover13100#p/a/u/2/xXvteShI_Ig Rest in peace my darling Tweezer. My heart is breaking but at least there is no feline leukemia where you are now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done for Tweezer. If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then I will do everything I can for him. If there is nothing that can be done then it will be time to let him go with dignity. I can trust Dr. Tom to advise me correctly. Meanwhile I am a basket case. If Tweezer must crosst the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV! BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. Did you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins? Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause seizures. Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no problem! Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath the jaw, and gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his being weak and immune compromised. Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the taste, they usually start eating! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. I hope that helps! ---Katy On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.comwrote: Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Tweezer was the name the rescue group that had him gave him. I liked the name and it fit him so we kept it. I don't know if links from the cat forum I am part of will work here, but I will try. This tells the story of how I came to have him and of his first few weeks at home: http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/117922-cat-cage.html http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/119042-tweezer-after-5-1-2-weeks.h tml -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Finch Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick Sue, I'm praying for you and Tweezer. Pllleeeaaassee tell me about that name! :D Mike ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Is ther anything that can reverse the anemia?
I am worried that my 4 year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer may be anemic. I will be taking him to the vet asap but am wondering if there is anything that can reverse the anemia once is starts. I have lost two positive kitties already to anemia and I sure don't want to see it happen to Tweezer. We bought Buzzy a few months with Doxycycline and Prednelolone but it's never enough time. Does anyone know of anything that can reverse it? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Blood in Tweezers stool
My 4 year old FeLV+ kitty, Tweezer has always had some digestive problems. Nothing more then gas and a rumbly tummy though. This morning he had a runny stool with blood in it and it seemed painful for him to go. Is this still another thing that positive cats deal with? Tweezer was just at the vets a couple of weeks ago for a check up. The vet said he looks healthy and the CBC came back normal. When their office opens today I will be calling but I wanted to ask the people on this list because you are the ones that know the troubles of FeLV+ cats. Any advice? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone.
I am so sorry to hear that Murphy lost his battle with this horrible disease. You made him come alive for everyone in this group with the wonderful descriptions of him in your posts. He was a very special cat and was so lucky to have you to care for him. You are an angel to have given all of these cats so much of yourself. Sue -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone. Murphy has passed to the bridge tonight to join Buster, Oni, Jack and Schatzi-Rosie's 4 brothers that passed last year. He was 2 1/2. Glenn and I saw in his eyes tonight that he was tired. He gave it all he had but in the end FeLV took him too.We will miss him so much-he filled the house with his incredible personality. He always ran to the door to greet everyone-he never knew a stranger. I will miss his big, poly-dactyl feet going clickity-click around the house and how he could leap up the wall and turn the light switch off and on when he chased the laser toy. Rosie will miss giving him vampire kisses-she's a tough love kinda girl and she is the last Mohican of the 6 FeLV+ kitties we began this journey with. Thanks to all of you for your kindness and caring. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous disease. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I rescued a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in Ohio?
My cousin lives in Canfield and is a cat lover. I will forward your e-mail to her and see if she knows anything about Angels for Animals. Sue -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone in Ohio? I work with a Louisiana shelter that's desperately overrun with owner surrenders following BP spill unemployment. A shelter from Ohio has contacted them about helping I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with them. It's the Angels for Animals in Canfield, OH. Christiane Biagi Volunteer-Friends of the Animal Shelter (FOAS) 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Epogen
Hello everyone, I have most of a 1ML SDV vial of 10,000 U/ML Epogen and some syringes if anyone could use them. I would be happy to overnight them to the first person to send me an address. This stuff is too expensive to go in the trash and I only used two injections from it. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
I'm so sorry about Bridget. We lost a cat that was being spayed once, the vet said it was her heart. I am SO sure it was not your fault. All of us that are responsible cat owners have our cats spayed and neutered. There is no other good choice, especially with a positive cat. We all know that going into heat and everything to do with mating puts stress on a cat that is even worse for a positive cat. Please do not blame yourself when you were just doing what you thought was best for her. Sue - Original Message - From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2752 - Release Date: 03/17/10 07:33:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Casper Epogen shot
I just gave Casper his first Epogen shot. He is supposed to get .15 ml daily to start. Hopefully things will get better for him. Tomorrow I am supposed to pick up the Imulan and give him that shot. I am shocked at how expensive all this stuff is. The one vial of Epogen was about $75.00 at Walgreens and it only has enough for three shots! the Imulan is going to be even more. Does anyone know of a kitty drug discount store? Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl has passed
I'm so sorry to hear about Baby Girl. She must have waited for you to get home from work to be with her in her last moments. It is so hard to lose each and every one of them. Hugs to you and Celery. Sue - Original Message - From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl has passed Baby Girl died tonight around 7:30. It feels so strange to write that; I've had her for two years, she's been symptom-free for two yearsand then it happened. She declined quickly. I knew she was not going to make it, so we had a vet appointment for tomorrow morning for her to be PTS. Even a couple of days ago she was purring a bit and looking for chin scratches and head rubs, but by the time I left for work this morning I think she hardly knew I was there. When I arrived home this evening she was lying on her side, barely breathing. I held her on my lap for about 45 minutes, just waiting, then she shuddered, my lights flickered and she was gone. She will join Duncan, Charlotte, Chutney and Frosty Paws at the bridge. Now Celery is the last remaining cat of my original FeLV group. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2743 - Release Date: 03/13/10 07:33:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] List working?
Hello everyone, is the list working? I have not been able to send or receive today. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?
Hello all; Casper is my symptomatic cat that became positive because I mixed my positives and negatives. I wondered if somehow I had missed his vaccinataion last year. I asked the vet to double check and as I thought he was not even due for his next vaccination until April. Anyway, he is now anemic and we are trying to deal with that. He has been getting Prednosolone and Doxycycline for about a week and a half without improvement. His count was 19 when he was tested two weeks ago. I took him today for a PCV and don't have the results yet. He also got an iron shot. I asked about Epogen. My vet calls it Arithro proeatin (I know I botched the spelling of that.) He is also looking into Interferon. Has anyone had experience with these with an anemic positive cat? Now that my decision to mix has make Casper become positive I want to do whatever I can for him. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?
I can't remember now what the time frame was. He was tested at his first vet visit after I adopted him but I don't remember how long that was after I brought him home. Normally I take a newly adopted cat right in to be checked but it has been about four years... Today I called my vet back and told him I wanted the Epogen because I wasn't going to just sit back and watch him die. He called a prescription in to Walgreens and they had to order it. I will pick it up after work tomorrow along with the syringes and give him his first injection tomorrow evening. My vet also contacted another vet he knows who had Imulan in stock and I am going to pick that up Thursday after work. I didn't realise that Epogen and Imulan could be given concurrently. Who knows, maybe there is some hope for my beautiful white fluffy boy after all. Sue - Original Message - From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron? sue, was casper ever double tested to make sure he was actually negative? a single negative test means no more than a single positive test does: unless we know for sure when the last possible date of exposure was, and do a final test 90-120 days after that, we cannot know that any cat is truly negative. this is how my cats all become exposed back in 2000--my housemate, the shelter director, brought in a beautiful little girl who'd tested negative. we didn't know to retest back then, and didn't. she became symptomatic less than a year later. as far as i know, there are no cases of an actually negative cat (tested twice) who has been vaccinated ever becoming positive from living with positives. don't blame yourself for something that you probably DIDN'T do. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.436 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2751 - Release Date: 03/16/10 19:33:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] MeMe 2006-3-32010
Jane, Your MeMe sounds like such a very special cat. She was beautiful and had such astonishing golden eyes. It seems that MeMe was one of those few truly extrordinary cats that we are privledged to know in our lifetimes. I am so sorry you lost her too soon. Sue - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] MeMe 2006-3-32010 I sent this message yesterday with a photo of MeMe but it did not go through the list. There are two photos of her on my photo webpage. The one on the bottom right is the best of the two (if anyone wants to see her face) Say two of the grieving process is not any better. Jane photos http://digitalimagecafe.com/member_profile.asp?member=memex2 Last night the vet came at 10:00 to put MeMe to sleep. I had her for three years and two days and I am grateful for each and everyone of those days. She was an extraordinary cat. She was highly symptomatic with Felv when we adopted her but we managed to get her to a place of almost normalcy for almost three years and up until the last few months she lived a full and happy life. She had been in steady decline since mid December and the quality of her life had diminished drastically. She stopped eating three days ago and yesterday morning she could not jump down from the kitchen countertop. It was at that moment that I knew I had to make the call. Four weeks ago she had a complete blood work up which turned out to be completely normal. The vet was astonished when he called me with her report. He said he had been afraid to read it because he didn't want to call me with , what he was sure, would be a bad report. I knew, despite the numbers that she was not well. We had given her a round of Clavamox to help her stomatitis and she developed diarrhea that I could not get rid of despite homeopathy and Forti-Flora that had worked before. We did an ultra sound of her digestive tract which proved to be inconclusive'' and yet she continued to get sicker. Yesterday my husband found a mass behind her right ear that was enormous. It had not been there a few weeks ago but I suspect her lymphatic system has been under assault since mid December when I began to see changes in her coat and her energy and then her behavior. Through it all, she continued to seek us out to sit in our laps and to sleep in our bed. She never hid or indicated that she wanted to be alone. This weekend I walked into the front hall to find her lying between our two Scotties in a pool of sunlight. As sick and as vulnerable as she was, she trusted them and us. She was a strong and trusting and courageous animal who could scale 40' trees with more agility than a squirrel. She was fearless and when we discovered that she was positive and could not go out she adapted to her cat jacket and spent all her days outside or going for walks with the dogs. She led the pack with her tail straight up and an occasional detour to climb a tree (with her 20' retractable leash). I could go on forever. She was just too wonderful. I have one positive thing to report. She had stomatitis (inflamed and sore gums) which we treated with antibiotics and homeopathy and a topical spray. Nothing worked for long. I discovered over this past month that the pro-biotic I was using for her diarrhea helped her mouth enormously. I was mixing Forti-Flora in her food twice a day for weeks and last week I noticed that her mouth was almost normal. For anyone dealing with stomatitis you might try a probiotic. So dear friends I think that all of us who are loving these endearing, loving creatures can learn a lot from their nobility and grace. MeMe was a gift and a life lesson to me. She has taught me so much and while she is not sitting in my lap as I type (and cry) she is deeply imbedded in my heart and will always be. Bless all of you who are living and learning from these very special beings love Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2723 - Release Date: 03/05/10 07:34:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Casper is positive
My poor sweet Casper is FeLV+. So by making the decision to mix I have condemned him. He is anemic and he is going on Doxycyclne and Prednosolone. Has anyone ever heard of a cat that has anemia living longer then a few months? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive and our Introduction
Our negative cats are due for their vaccinations this month. I let Buzz out of his quaranteen room the first part of April of 2008. The others were vaccinated through the month of March. Then again last year. Now I am wondering if the vaccinations did any good at all. You have a very interesting history. Thank God for people like you who take care of the ones who most need it. - Original Message - From: David Lisa Ogg emmhomescho...@peoplepc.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive and our Introduction Hi, I am rather new to this list, but wanted to ask Sue how long ago was it that sweet Casper was vacinated for Feline Leukemia before she tested positive? I am just curious as I am learning so much about this horrible disease. I have been reading many posts since I joined in January and I just want to say thank you to all of you out there who care for these positive furballs like a do. I can't believe how much I have learned. I also would like to share my story with you. My daughter and I foster for a small rescue in PA (bottle babies is our specialty) and we have just recently became a positive house. Prior to January, we had a negative cat, Polly (our own) which we adopted in 2006 and Chessie, adopted in September 2008. In December of 2008, we took in a foster cat from a vet that had a hip injury and the original owners were going to have her put to sleep due to lack of finances. The vet felt that Jasmine (1-2 years old) had such a sweet personality and deserved better. She contacted the rescue and asked if we would be willing to take her. Before we brought her home, she was tested at the vets for Feline Leukemia and it came back negative. She had her surgery, spayed, etc. and healed fine. Anyway, Chessie became sick right around Christmas and when he stopped eating, I took him to the vet and he tested positive. He progressed very fast and passed away in January. After having the other two cats tested, Polly was negative (has since died due to tumor), and Jasmine tested positive. This caused a big stir in our house and the lady we foster for as that meant several cats needed to be tested. In January we also lost 2 other kittens who were adopted out which were exposed to my Positive cats while they were kittens (and later, since one of them wasn't adopted right away, the one was exposed to the cats from the lady we rescue from). After much testing between the lady who we rescue cats for and our house, we have determined that Jasmine seems to be the one who has spread it. We are assuming that she is a carrier. She is a very healthy cat.Since one of the other cats at our rescue (in another house) tested positive, we took her in. We have many more cats there that have tested negative, but are getting retested in a couple of months. Today we just added a beautiful, positive Snow Shoe girl to our family. We have named her Tootsie. She was found 3 weeks ago by a friend of mine and was neglected/abused. My friend took her in and has saved her (had an exposed trachea and gangerine) and didn't think she would find anyone with a positive cat(s). Surprise! My friend has dealt with a lot of trauma/wounds, but has never seen anything like this. We look forward to providing for her and giving her the best care she could have. Thanks for letting me share. Lisa - Original Message - From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive My poor sweet Casper is FeLV+. So by making the decision to mix I have condemned him. He is anemic and he is going on Doxycyclne and Prednosolone. Has anyone ever heard of a cat that has anemia living longer then a few months? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2721 - Release Date: 03/03/10 19:34:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive
How did you get the anemia turned around in the positive cat that is 13 pounds now? - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive I am so sorry to hear about Casper. I do think sometimes the ones we think become FeLV+ were already positive (like my kitty who the vet said probably carried it in his bone marrow). YES re the anemia! My niece rescued a FeLV+ adult cat almost 3 years ago. She is a happy and healthy 13 lb girl! We also rescued a kitten who was a suspected victim of the food recall. He was also very sick with anemia and is still alive ...3? or 4 years later. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive I'm so sorry to hear this. I've always mixed mine with no transmission. But that was a personal choice. I know some people on this list have successfully treated anemia. It depends on what is the underlying cause. They give Doxy in the hopes it is Hemobart. I hope for the best for you and Casper. Beth --Original Message-- From: Frank Sue Koren Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org To: FeLV talk ReplyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Casper is positive Sent: Mar 4, 2010 7:47 PM My poor sweet Casper is FeLV+. So by making the decision to mix I have condemned him. He is anemic and he is going on Doxycyclne and Prednosolone. Has anyone ever heard of a cat that has anemia living longer then a few months? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2721 - Release Date: 03/03/10 19:34:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Casper is sick
Hello everyone, it's been a while since I posted to this list but I read everything that's going on. I now have two FeLV+ cats. I lost my first positive cat to anemia in November of 2008. When he came into my home and tested positive I finally decided to mix my positives and negatives. Before I lost Buzz, the two positive cats I have now came into my life. I also have 1 FIV+ and 5 negatives in the household. My negatives are all vaccinaated. Now Casper, who I thought was negative is acting an awful lot like Buzzy did when he became anemic. I took him to the vet Monday and they did a CBC. The vet was supposed to call yesterday with the results but did not. : ( They also requested a re-test for FeLV. I wish now that I had just asked them to do the snap test at the office, at least I would know. If Casper has turned positive I will never forgive myself. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.100/2554 - Release Date: 12/09/09 07:32:00 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy
Hello everyone, Has anybody else seen the article in this months Cat Fancy about Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator? Although the article does not go into any detail or get at all scientific, it seems that it might give this stuff some credibility. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision
MaryChristine, Thank you for your kind words. I think it makes it easier to know that others do not judge you, even when you can't quite get past judging yourself. I know I have learned so much over the years and always hope to improve the way I take care of my kitties. There were cats I had years ago that would have lived longer and healthier lives if I had known then what I do now. But I guess that goes for any of us that are ever so much more then twenty. Again, thank you. Sue - Original Message - From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision sue, i think that we learn those hard, hard lessons that way specifically so that we do NOT make the same choice again. you did the best you could with the information you had at the moment--buzz' last lesson to you may well have been to teach you to listen to your heart from now on. i thank the universe that these bits of light wrapped in fur are so forgiving of our human frailty, and understand so much better than we do, that doing our best IS the best we can do the folks on lists like this do NOT make choices that intentionally hurt our charges--and they know that. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision
Lorrie, I am so sorry to hear about your little kitty. I was in the same position about a year ago. My darling FeLV+ kitty Buzz was anemic and slowly going down hill. He had stopped eating and I was carrying him to his litter box and upstairs to sleep next to me every night. One morning when I carried him down to his litter box he just sat there and swayed. I decided that it was probably time and made the appointment to put him to sleep. When the time came to go to the vets he used the last bit of strength he had to fight going into the carrier. That horrible moment will live with me forever. I so wish that I had stopped right there and canceled the appointment. Poor Buzzy hated going to the vets as most cats do and I made his last moments miserable. Even though I held him close while they did it, it will never make up for his fear. If ever I am in that position again I will wait and not chose to euthanize unless I know for sure the cat is in pain. Sue - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision Dear Friends, I have a difficult decision to make, and I hope you can help... I have several FelV cats at a shelter I have in town. Most remain in good health by all appearances, however one 8 year old female has been steadily losing weight, she is now very anemic; extremely emaciatedm and she stopped eating two days ago. She will still lick a bit of baby food from my fingers, and she is still drinking water, but this is all. I know she is probably going to die soon, but I want her to die in familiar surroundings where she is loved, rather than having to make a trip to the vet which is always terrifying for cats. The vets here will not come out to see or euthanize a sick cat. This cat does not appear to be in any pain. She has no tumors, nor neurogical symptoms, but I know she will soon die from the anemia. I do not believe in extending the life of a cat who has a terminal illness, therefore I will not put her through transfusions or heroic measures. If I had a terminal illness I would not wish this for myself! What I'm asking is this I'm sure some of you have had anemic FelV cats and I want to know if dying from anemia is painful. If so I will have her put to sleep. Even though I know the trip to the vet will be frightening for her... I do not want her to suffer. Thank you for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Adopted an FIV+
Thanks for the links everybody! I intend to read up and join some groups. Also, thank you to Belinda for passing on my questions. I don't know why the list is bumping some of my e-mails lately. Maybe I've got cooties! ; ) Thanks, Sue - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:18 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Adopted an FIV+ This message is from Sue (address below), for some reason it got cut so I am forwarding it. Not sure if this is Sue's list email so if you reply you may want to CC her on it [fs...@roadrunner.com] to make sure she gets your reply. Subject: Adopted an FIV+ From: Frank and Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:04:00 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Today I brought a new 15 year old cat home from the shelter. He is a very sweet flame point FIV positive. I know next to nothing about FIV except that it is not supposed to be as easy to transmit as feline leukemia. Does anyone have any information or links for FIV? He seems very healty except for goopy eyes. He is going to get Wellness food with lysine mixed into it. Thanks for any advise! Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
Amy, I am so sorry about your Maverick. He sounds like he was a wonderful kitty. The things you say about him remind me so much of one of my positives, Tweezer. He was also in horrible shape when we got him and has quite the personality now. You are so lucky to have such a sympathetic vet. These kitties are so often too young when we lose them. Last November I lost my Buzzy and he was only two. There have been so many wonderful cats that people on this list have lost in the last few weeks and every one takes a piece of my heart. Some of them beat the odds, though. My oldest positive is 11, and at the shelter where I volunteer there is a sweet 21 year old boy named Alex who lives in our positive room. It sounds like you do so much for your kitties. I hope you do not lose any more for a very, very long time. Hugs to you and a pleasent journey to the bridge for Maverick. - Original Message - From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing He was white with a few orange spots and an orange tail. When we got him, he was so run down. Within no time at all, I thought he was the coolest looking cat I ever saw. He was all personality. He's the one that would stick his paws out from under the chair or couch to get me as I walked by. He loved life and would sit in the windows and make all sorts of crazy noises at my birds and squirrels, ones I've never heard a cat make. He was really one of a kind. I'll never forget how much he touched our lives. I got him the minute I returned home from my honeymoon in August of 05. I took one cat (possibly his sister or relative) with FIV right before we left and when I got home from my honeymoon, there was a message that he was waiting to see if I would give him a home. My husband let me make a special allowance for him (I had promised to keep my number to five since we spend so much money on them) and take him as my 6th cat for an early birthday present. I've rescued several leuk positive and for us the ones that got it as kittens never seemed to do as well in the long run. I have 5 (til today) and this is the longest stretch we've ever had without losing one. We were hoping maybe all these cats got leukemia as adults and would be around for a long time. Maverick was way too young, probably only 4 or 5 years old :( Thanks for thinking about us. Amy Amy, what color was Maverick? I picture him as black and white...and want to get the right picture of him in my mind. He is lucky to have had you. Your vet sounds wonderful! How long did you have Maverick? Take care and let your other kitties comfort you. Btw - a note of hope- I had one FeLV cat (Squeaky) live to 22 and another (Stripes) live to 16. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing All, Thank you to everybody that has responded. This passing has been extremely sad for us. They all are. No matter how many times I see this disease take one away, it never gets any easier. This guy came to me so sick. He was full of worms and stuff bursting out from under his eyes. I honestly didn't think he'd make it a year. He totally thrived and proved me wrong and he was such a character, such a presence. We miss him deeply already and the house is not the same. It is just empty in a way I can't express. It helps to hear from all of you that can understand because you've been there. Amy Amy, lighting a candle for a peaceful passage for Maverick. We love them. care for them and in the end let them go. Sharyl --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 1:27 PM -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing His name is Maverick. He woke up this morning with a yellow color and has let us know he's had enough. We just returned from the vet and he had a peaceful passing. Amy --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:45 AM Poor guy. What is his name? Please keep us posted. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:22 AM To:
Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie is a fluffy orange angel
Giselle, I am so sorry to hear of your sweet Pixie's passing. It is such a heartbreak and many of us on this list have been through it more then once and completely understand how hard it is. There is nothing so empty as their favorite places after they are gone. Most of all please do not feel guilty for the time you were traveling. It is so easy to second guess yourself and keep saying what if. You obviously took wonderful care of Pixie and gave her a great life. This is a horrible, evil disease and nothing you could have done can change that. Peace and kitty blessings to you and your angel Pixie. Sue - Original Message - From: G D gisell...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie is a fluffy orange angel It is with profound sadness that I share that my sweet baby Pixie Katzenellenbogan passed away yesterday evening. She was euthanized by a gentle and sympathetic vet while I stroked and talked to her. I told her she was deeply loved. Yesterday I got second and third opinions from vets I felt were genuinely interested in Pixie (unlike the apathetic first vet) and it was terrible news all around (see the bloodwork analysis below). In the last two days she deteriorated quickly before my eyes despite the regimen of syringe-administered diluted wet food prescribed by the vet. Her breathing had become increasingly fast and shallow (a vet explained she was gasping for oxygen due to the anemia). She was crying out in pain, even while lying still, too weak to stand up or walk, and staring blankly. It was heartbreaking to see her suffering. Things she once enjoyed held no interest (favorite stinky foods, lying in a sunbeam, toys, going out in the yard, being brushed). I emailed the lab results from Pixie's bloodwork to a friend who's a vet in Canada and her analysis was: There are a couple of things on her bloodwork that are alarming. First of all, she is very anemic (ie very low red blood cell count). In conjunction with what's going on with her high white blood cell count and platelets though, I'm less concerned about the anemia itself and more concerned about an actual leukemia (ie cancer). Her red blood cells and platelets are both very low which indicates that the bone marrow is likely diseased and not producing them properly. On top of that, according to the written interpretation at the bottom, the red blood cells and platelets that do exist are all showing signs of immaturity- this means that they are not sticking around in the bone marrow long enough to mature completely because something (ie the leukemia that is pumping out cells) is taking up space in the bone marrow. Besides the changes in her CBC, some other parameters also point towards this diagnosis: her calcium level is elevated which is often seen in association with cancer and her CPK is high which might indicate muscle wasting. Muscle wasting is often also seen with cancer. I thought yesterday was hard (choosing to end Pixie's suffering helping her cross over) but today is even worse. Waking up with no Pixie at the foot of the bed, no Pixie meowing for her tuna, no Pixie scampering down the stairs. Seeing her things everywhere -- food bowls, toys, blankets, cat grass, scratching mats, the armchair she shredded, a brush full of orange fur -- is devastating. HOW can I possibly live here without her? Pixie was born in South Philadelphia in spring 2005, rescued from the streets during a snowstorm in February 2006, and came into my life in March 2006. She was a feisty little champ like Rocky. Pixie became a Dutch cat in August 2006 when we moved to the Netherlands (her permanent final home), flying Northwest so I could bring her in the cabin, tucking her carrier under the seat in front of me, and carrying a pop-up make-shift litterbox, food, water, vet documents, and Rescue Remedy. She was the perfect companion. _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS
Sharyl, I am so sorry to hear about your little Houdini. She sounds like a very sweet cat. It is always so hard to lose our little cats, especially when they are so young. It has been five months since I lost my sweet Buzz and I still miss him so much. Hugs to you and gentle bridge vibes to Houdini. Sue - Original Message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:51 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS My dear sweet little girl Houdini died today. She was just 10 months old. Test positive twice but never had any symptoms. For the last couple of days she meowed when I picked her up. This little girl loved to be held and petted. Since I have 8 house cats, I thought perhaps a bite or sprain but could find any evidence of an injury. Yesterday she started breathing kind of heavy so today we headed to the vet, a 45 minute drive. She stopped meowing a couple of miles away from the vet's office. I thought she had finally gotten used to the ride. Didn't know she was dead until I got into the vets office. I'm still in shock. Bright Eyes had failed over several weeks. I just didn't think I wouldn't be coming home with her. She loved to sit on the desk beside the computer while I was on line. When I sat down on the sofa she immediately got in my lap. She just loved to be loved. I will sorely miss her. I am just grateful I was able to have her love for as long as I did. I rescued her and her litter mates from a dumpster site when she was 4 weeks old. She earned her name because she was the only one of the 4 that could escape from the crate I had them in. Please add her to the next CLS. Sharyl Sissy Rocket CJ Mattie and all my Angels ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charlotte is going back to the vet tommorrow
I do the same thing when I come home from the shelter where I volunteer. I even have a special pair of shoes that I only wear at the shelter and I keep them in a plastic bag in the garage when I am not at the shelter. I would rather be safe then sorry. - Original Message - From: souther...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charlotte is going back to the vet tommorrow I'm certainly not a vet, so maybe this is overkill, but I'm very cautious about carrying disease/germs etc. when I come back from the shelter (I volunteer there) I am afraid, not that I'll infect anyone there, but that my FeLV+ boy will pick up some germ from there. So I don't take him there and I literally take off my shoes at the door of my house, and immediately go to the bathroom and take off all my clothes and take a shower when I come in the door just in case I have anything on me that he might get. I then spray down my shoes with lysol before I bring them in. I put the clothes in the hamper and wash them before I wear them again. I'm a regular volunteer. I may be carrying it too far but i am scared that I'll bring something home to either the cat or the dog who has chronic erlichiosis. Sidney ** Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219799634x1201361008/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad .doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133440%3B36002254%3Bj) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charlotte is positive....tested negative last year
Laura, My vet has said that he has seen research that says vaccination every three years is ok, so don't beat yourself up over being late for the yearly. My Casper and Scottie are going tomorrow for theirs and they are a few months late. Time and expense - it just doesn't work out some times. Sue - Original Message - From: Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Charlotte is positivetested negative last year I got some bad news at the vet today. I brought Charlotte in for a visit because she wasn't herself and had been losing weight. She's been with me for about a year, and, like all my cats, was combo-tested before she was put in with my other cats. So FeLV was the last thing I was worried about. But they re-tested her when they did the bloodwork, and guess what, she's positive. We have started her on interferon. I'm really worried about my other cats. They're 100% indoor cats and have no contact with my FeLV+/FIV+ crew, and I hate to admit it, but their yearly vaccinations don't always get done quite on schedule. My vet said he really wasn't that concerned about it since they've always been vaccinated, but maybe he was just trying to make me feel better. I'm going to get all 15 of them re-tested and if anyone turns up positive, well, we will just have to deal with it. I did lose Duncan, one of my FeLV cats, last July, but the others have been stable and look great. I'm going to give Charlotte lysine, too. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 Positive FELV togehter with 1 Negative NEED HELP FROMGREECE PLEASE
Marcel, Hello and welcome to the list. I am katlover 13 on the forum. I hope you will find some information that will help you here. Nearly everybody in this group has or has had positive cats and there is a great deal of good advise here. Best wishes for all of your cats. Sue - Original Message - From: Marcel Wallat marcelwal...@yahoo.gr To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 Positive FELV togehter with 1 Negative NEED HELP FROMGREECE PLEASE Hello and Greetings from Greece, We need help from the experts, pls. Before 2 weeks we've found out that 2 of our cats are FELV + It was an ELISA bloodtest (this are the only ones here in Greece) Now we wrote and talked with so many people but this made us more confused, because we have one tomcat here (so 3 cats in the home) which is 9 years old and he was tested Negative. Everyone tells us something different , one time they say that we shouldnt give our negative tomcat a vaccency-injection for the FELV because it can be dangerous in his age and that he will not get FELV now and another one tells that we should go asap to give him the injection. To explain it: We took a stray cat before one year in our house, he was sleeping sometimes inside and had contact with our both cats. One our little cat girl got FELV but the older tomcat not. We want to help them but dont know what is now the best to protect at first the old tomcat and what we can do with the both infected cats ? Because here you cant get INTERFERON etc. also you get here only the standard cat food like whiskas, Felix, Gourmet. Please can help some expert here, what we should do now with our lovely old tomcat that he gets not infected and what we can do that we help the both infected cats?/ Thank you very much Marcel ___ Χρησιμοποιείτε Yahoo!; Βαρεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά μηνύματα (spam); Το Yahoo! Mail διαθέτει την καλύτερη δυνατή προστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Bob to the bridge list
I'm so sorry to hear about poor Bob. He sounds like a very sweet little guy who had a hard life until you had him. Gentle bridge vibe to him. God help us find a cure for this miserable disease! - Original Message - From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Bob to the bridge list Bob was a wonderful little gray tabby FELV boy that I took in from a couple here who rescue cats. He was found at a truck stop on the highway, all alone, last November, and such a sweetie! But then he tested positive for FELV. The folks who brought him to me were just devastated, just loved him so much, as I did.They thought he was not quite a year old, and we were all hoping he'd make it longer. Bob was fine - eating heartily, playful - until March. He became lethargic and the vet said he was severely anemic. He got a blood transfusion, and was on prednisone, pettinic, etc. But just couldn't make it back from his sickness. He died the early morning of March 17, 2009, and with St Patrick's help went to the Rainbow Bridge where he was greeted by all our other sweet feline kitties. Sleep soft sweet Bob. Gentle thoughts to all of you who have lost little ones, it helps so much having others out there. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
Tonya, I'm sorry to hear about Shaft. It sounds like he was a lucky kitty that you had 15 years together, you must miss him so much. Gentle bridge vibes to him and comfort to you. Sue - Original Message - From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft Hello Everyone, I know I haven't been online much lately. I've had 2 very sick (felv -) kitties. On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized. He had hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old. My other sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now. It seems like my positive cat (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol. It just goes to show you what a shame it is that people put down cats for being positive. I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to. I know how you feel. :( tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] forms of lysine
I purchase the lysine that the shelter I volunteer for uses from Purebulk.com If you key in Pet Rescue when you are ordering from them you get a 20% discount. Sue - Original Message - From: souther...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] forms of lysine The one I use is a powder, bought from my vet, that I sprinkle on food. Sidney and the General ** Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesamp; ncid=emlcntusyelp0005) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My Mickey
Viky, I am so sorry to hear about your sweet Mickey. So many of us have been through this and it is always heartbreaking. I am glad you had those last moments of special time with him. Sue - Original Message - From: Viky Digangi vdiga...@dss.state.la.us To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My Mickey In October I joined the group requesting information on hemangio sarcoma which my felv cat was diagnosed with. Everything I read was bad. He had the first tumor removed on 10-13-08. It came back this time two tumors and they were removed on 1-6-09. This surgery was very, very difficult on him to get over. Then on 2-13-09 the vet discovered it had come back even more rapidly than the first time. x-rays showed nothing in the lungs or spleen but the liver was hard to see though not enlarged. This past Monday he stopped eating and drinking and I knew it was time. The next morning I took my heart disguised as a little 7 pound black and white angel to the vet for the final time. The night before I laid him on the bed next to me and he stared into my face purring for hours. The cancer had spread to his liver and I knew I could not stand for him be in pain. Before I took him to the vet I wrapped him in his cat blanket and walked him all over the yard so he could see his ducks and feel the air on his face. He loved to be outside. So from start to finish he lived 19 weeks from diagnosis. This is a deadly, aggressive cancer and I hope none of you experience it with your babies. I had my little man for 8 years and 7 months and they were worth every minute. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Assisted Feeding
We bought our Buzz a few more months when he was anemic by giving him Doxycycline and Prednesolone. It all depends on if you are talking about anemia and why she is anemic. Whatever you do it needs to be fast. Anemia doesn't give you much time. - Original Message - From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Assisted Feeding You didn't say exactly what was bad in the blood work but I'm going to guess she was very anemic. If that is the case, you need more than assisted feeding. Depending on what the numbers are, she might need an immediate transfusion just to give you a little time to try some things and there is no guarantee. It is really hard to win against a fast moving anemia. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of mdgallo...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Assisted Feeding My Macy is only 10 1/2 mos. and I took her to the vet yesterday because she had become lethargic and wasn't playing. My son is one of the vet techs so they know us and have been with Macy since we got her at 10 wks old. She was a feral cat in the neighborhood. We even tried catnip on her favorite toy, Mr. Lion. After an exam, urinalysis and blood work, the vet came in and just stood there, too upset to talk. Macy's blood count is so bad they don't know how she's even walking, although she still jumps up on furniture but not with much energy. They said she only has a few days. I've read about assisted feeding but don't recall anyone saying what they're feeding the cat. She is still eating a very small amount but if more is going to help her, we're willing to try anything. I'd appreciate any advice or suggestions. Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3862 (20090217) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing the list
I'm also here with my positives, Tweezer and Orlando, and 5 negatatives. Tweez is doing a round of Doxy for a URI, but otherwise all healthy! Hope everyone else is well. - Original Message - From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:48 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] testing the list Hey all, Just testing the list since there's been no activity since Saturday. Here's hoping that everyone is doing well. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Good News!
Some of you may remember my FeLV+ kitty, Buzz, had anemia a couple of months ago. His red blood cell level was down to 8% and the replacement vet gave him two days to live. Because of the advise of people from this list I demanded he be put on Doxycycline, and when my regular vet came back he also put him on prednesone. His blood levels have been steadily rising since then. He finished the Doxy and two weeks ago we started to back off on the Prednesone when his red blood level was at 32%. He was just tested again and his level is at 38%. I feel like he is a miracle kitty! We hear so many of the very sad stories on this list that it feels good to report something happy. Thank you all so much for your help and support. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight
Kim, I am so sorry to hear about your Cole. We fight so many battles with these little ones and I am glad you had him for 6 1/2 years. I know you gave him all the love and care you could in your time together. Rest peacefully sweet Cole. Sue Kim Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = It is with great sadness that I have to say that my Cole has lost his fight. The last 2 weeks he has been recieving epogen shots two times a week and we found out today that the shots have not improved his anemia. He in fact got worse and his hemoglobin went down to 9% from 11% 2 weeks ago. He has also lost an addition 1lb in 3 days because he would not eat. It was the hardest thing ever to have to make the call in putting him to sleep or not, but he has been so lethargic and down the last couple days, I had no choice. He was not in good enough shape to even attempt any other treatment at this point. I wish I would have caught this earlier and maybe treatment would have been better. He had been living with Feline Leukemia since birth and he lived to be almost 7, so at least I was blessed with that time with him. Right now the hardest thing is to come home and not have him waiting at the door for me. I am praying that I made the right decision and didnt jump the gun on putting him to sleep, but I just could not take it if I knew that I was prolonging his suffering. I am having him cremated and we are having a special urn made for him with his picture. All I can say is that having Cole for a short 6 1/2 years was worth the heartache I have now, he was my rock and was there for me when I needed him and now it is my turn to be there for him. Thank you all for your support and words of advice, it helped me make it through the 2 toughest weeks of my life. I love you Cole. Kim ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Sweet Buzz
Hi Judie, I just wanted to let you know that Buzz is expected to make a full recovery. My husband just told me yesterday that the vet had only given him two days to live. You would never think that to see him now! His red count level is up to 18. Dr. Tom thinks he will eventually not even need any medication, but his levels have a way to go before that happens. Now that the crisis is over I would like to start volunteering. How is Chance doing? Take Care, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Sorry!
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[Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list.
I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone from 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. He will be loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years! Thank you everyone! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list.
His energy level continues to improve. If I were to look at him now not knowing what he had been through I would not know that he was sick. He still doesn't play like the kitten he still is (a little over a year old). I just love to watch him eat. He is back to following me around. Did you ever decide what to do about BooBoo's son? Or are you just trying to get through all you are going through with Lennie right now? Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Wonderful news Sue. I so hope he continues to improve and fight this along with you. How is he feeling by the way? Lynne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] The difference in vets
Hello everyone - Last Friday when Buzz sick I had to settle for one of the vets who works in the practice to check him because the husband and wife team I normaly go to were on vacation. She pretty much said Buzz was anemic and there was no hope for him. She gave him a cortizone shot and sent him home saying to give a call when it was time to euthanize. Thanks to the advise of some of the people on this list I called back and demanded Dolycycline. Yesterday Dr. Tom was back. I had Buzzy re-tested in the morning (his level had gone from 8 to 11) and had a conference with Dr. Tom at 5:00 yesterday. He spent an hour talking with me about all the possible options and explaining how each one worked and what the benefits and drawbacks were of each plan. He was very happy that Buzz was on Doxycycline. When I left the office he had promised to look into some of the options and get back to me. Two hours later I received a call from him. He had spent all that time researching some of the options we had talked about, including prednisone, and Epogen, B vitamins and Niacinamide. Now Buzz is still on the Doxycycline and has started with prednisone. Dr. Tom is going to order the Epogen and find out about the availability of Niacinamide. It is so great to have such a wonderful person and doctor available who cares so much and takes the time to explain things. The only thing I can't figure out is why he keeps that other vet in his practice. This morning Buzz was still pretty tired but he ate a lot of the tuna I mixed up for him with the multi-vitamin in it. My mother-in-law lives with us and she will continue to offer him food every couple of hours until I get home from work to spoil him. Every evening we have been going out on the deck where I cuddle him and give him Reiki treatments. Even if things don't work out, now I know that at least he is getting a fighting chance. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pictures of our kitties
Jennifer - I belong to an on-line chat where everyone posts their cat pictures callet the cat forum. It is fun to see pictures of the cats we are talking about. Sue Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Is there a website where we can post pictures of cats? It would be nice to share pics of the cats we talk about. Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Conference with vet
Today at 5:00 I have an appointment with Dr. Tom about Buzz. He is the one I respect and I know he will do something to help Buzz if possible. I just hope I will know the right questions to ask. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz might be sick
Thanks, Sally, Buzz seems to be breathing fast, but I am not sure how he usually breaths. Like you said, panic mode. My husband is taking him at 10:40 am today because I am working. I want to be there so badly! Sue Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = HI Sue I am sorry Buzz is not well. I am not sure what to tell you to ask the vet. There are so many things I should have asked, but i was clueless. Sometimes I think I tortured Junior needlessly because I was in panic mode. Be calm and listen his life depends on you. You can check his gums to see if they are pale. Anemia is common. As my vet told me b4 Junior was dx with Felv, hemabartenella can be caused by just one flea. It is treatable. How is his breathing? I will keep you and Buzz in my prayers. Hugs Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic
Buzz has a red blood count of 8, the vet says it should be 30. She gave him a steriod shot. She says we could choose to give him a transfusion but that would only be a temporary fix and very expensive. He also has a bad heart murmer. Right now I am just trying to by time to look into optiions. I am very much against making a cat go through a lot of painful procedures just to buy a month or two. They just don't understand why you are doing it to them. Why can't cats take iron pills like anemic humans do? So many questions... Thanks, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic
Please forgive my ignorance, but I thought it was just something that happens with FeLV+ kitties. Isn't the FeLV the reason? Sue Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Did she bother to find out why his HCT was 8 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com Prepaid Legal Services ID Theft Protection http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/bisauro HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design
James and Belinda Really great job on the website! Everything is so clear and easy! Sue James G Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Hey all, I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website (with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: http://www.felineleukemia.org I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: I must be nuts!
To tell the real truth, I don't feel nuts at all, I am just so happy to have him! He is such a gentleman and such an armful! (16#) I have never had a siamese before and never heard of flame point siamese. I can tell that he has never had a real home before. There are things he is afraid of that any cat that had had a home would know about. I can't wait to see what his personality is like in 6 months or so when he has had a good chance to settle in. If I have this boy for weeks or years the time will be so worth it because he is so very special! Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = AMEN On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Barb Moermond wrote: I'm so happy for you two! We never know how long our little friends are going to be with us, so I don't think you're nuts. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FeLV Talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:06:59 AM Subject: I must be nuts! Hi Everyone! Saturday I went to a local cat rescue home and adopted a beautiful 16lb. flame point siamese boy. He is 10 years old and FeLV+. I have been missing my cuddler, Tucker, so much that I just wanted another loveable lap cat kitty. There were over 200 cats in that home but when I picked up Orlando it was all over. He just snuggled right in. His previous owner passed away in January. She had a lot of acreage, a couple of barns and a shop where she made signs. She had 17 cats who roamed the place and were never let inside or given vet care. When she passed away her husband brought all the cats to this rescue and several were FeLV+. Ironically, that was about the time Buzz was diagnosed and I was still trying to find a home for him. When I called this rescue they told me that they had just taken in several positives and did not have room. If someone had told me then that I would be taking one of the positives I never would have believed them. Anyway, Orlando is a very special sweetheart of a cat. He is even getting along fairly well with the other 5. Yesterday I had him to the vets and they found that he had once had a broken leg that was never taken care of and healed wrong. (I knew his back right leg was stiff). Time will tell if that is something to take care of now or not. They also re-confirmed the FeLV+. Anyway I am getting way too long winded. Thanks for listening to me ramble, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: I must be nuts!
He certainly is a beautiful beastie - creamy coat with pastel blue eyes ... (Sigh!) MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = hip hip meow! you know, sometimes i think that NOT knowing they're FeLV is better for everyone.. no one sat around expecting him to get sick, so he didn't i, too, have a thing for flamepoints--beautfiul little beasties, tho no one will be surprised that i go for the himmie version. i'm so glad you found each other, as clearly you were meant to. MC On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone! Saturday I went to a local cat rescue home and adopted a beautiful 16lb. flame point siamese boy. He is 10 years old and FeLV+. I have been missing my cuddler, Tucker, so much that I just wanted another loveable lap cat kitty. There were over 200 cats in that home but when I picked up Orlando it was all over. He just snuggled right in. His previous owner passed away in January. She had a lot of acreage, a couple of barns and a shop where she made signs. She had 17 cats who roamed the place and were never let inside or given vet care. When she passed away her husband brought all the cats to this rescue and several were FeLV+. Ironically, that was about the time Buzz was diagnosed and I was still trying to find a home for him. When I called this rescue they told me that they had just taken in several positives and did not have room. If someone had told me then that I would be taking one of the positives I never would have believed them. Anyway, Orlando is a very special sweetheart of a cat. He is even getting along fairly well with the other 5. Yesterday I had him to the vets and they found that he had once had a broken leg that was never taken care of and healed wrong. (I knew his back right leg was stiff). Time will tell if that is something to take care of now or not. They also re-confirmed the FeLV+. Anyway I am getting way too long winded. Thanks for listening to me ramble, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine go to my blog for updates: if you don't have the address, then you're not supposed to. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: I must be nuts!
Beth, What are some of the things that make siamese unique? All I have ever heard is that they are vocal. Sue Beth Gouldin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Sue -I adore Siamese - there is something very different about them then any other cat I've had (I'm sure that people would say that about alot of different breeds but I really do think Meezers are special!) We are on our second (we lost our first one to FeLV - he's basically why we got the second one) and there are traits that they have both shared, but they have so much personality it's incredible!!! Enjoy every minute you have!! Beth On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To tell the real truth, I don't feel nuts at all, I am just so happy to have him! He is such a gentleman and such an armful! (16#) I have never had a siamese before and never heard of flame point siamese. I can tell that he has never had a real home before. There are things he is afraid of that any cat that had had a home would know about. I can't wait to see what his personality is like in 6 months or so when he has had a good chance to settle in. If I have this boy for weeks or years the time will be so worth it because he is so very special! Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = AMEN On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Barb Moermond wrote: I'm so happy for you two! We never know how long our little friends are going to be with us, so I don't think you're nuts. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FeLV Talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:06:59 AM Subject: I must be nuts! Hi Everyone! Saturday I went to a local cat rescue home and adopted a beautiful 16lb. flame point siamese boy. He is 10 years old and FeLV+. I have been missing my cuddler, Tucker, so much that I just wanted another loveable lap cat kitty. There were over 200 cats in that home but when I picked up Orlando it was all over. He just snuggled right in. His previous owner passed away in January. She had a lot of acreage, a couple of barns and a shop where she made signs. She had 17 cats who roamed the place and were never let inside or given vet care. When she passed away her husband brought all the cats to this rescue and several were FeLV+. Ironically, that was about the time Buzz was diagnosed and I was still trying to find a home for him. When I called this rescue they told me that they had just taken in several positives and did not have room. If someone had told me then that I would be taking one of the positives I never would have believed them. Anyway, Orlando is a very special sweetheart of a cat. He is even getting along fairly well with the other 5. Yesterday I had him to the vets and they found that he had once had a broken leg that was never taken care of and healed wrong. (I knew his back right leg was stiff). Time will tell if that is something to take care of now or not. They also re-confirmed the FeLV+. Anyway I am getting way too long winded. Thanks for listening to me ramble, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Beth Gouldin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 940.395.5393 God Bless!!! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
New server?
Hello everyone - I went to the archives today and found that I am only getting about half of the messages. Earlier this month it was suggested that we all chip in if a new server is needed. The support of this group has meant a great deal to me and I would be very happy to help in some way. Is it feasible to make this new server idea happen? Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
I must be nuts!
Hi Everyone! Saturday I went to a local cat rescue home and adopted a beautiful 16lb. flame point siamese boy. He is 10 years old and FeLV+. I have been missing my cuddler, Tucker, so much that I just wanted another loveable lap cat kitty. There were over 200 cats in that home but when I picked up Orlando it was all over. He just snuggled right in. His previous owner passed away in January. She had a lot of acreage, a couple of barns and a shop where she made signs. She had 17 cats who roamed the place and were never let inside or given vet care. When she passed away her husband brought all the cats to this rescue and several were FeLV+. Ironically, that was about the time Buzz was diagnosed and I was still trying to find a home for him. When I called this rescue they told me that they had just taken in several positives and did not have room. If someone had told me then that I would be taking one of the positives I never would have believed them. Anyway, Orlando is a very special sweetheart of a cat. He is even getting along fairly well with the other 5. Yesterday I had him to the vets and they found that he had once had a broken leg that was never taken care of and healed wrong. (I knew his back right leg was stiff). Time will tell if that is something to take care of now or not. They also re-confirmed the FeLV+. Anyway I am getting way too long winded. Thanks for listening to me ramble, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Hi again :)
Does anyone know if a positive cat who stays positive but not sick for a certain length of time, if the chances are that they will not become sick? Or could the sickness just come on them at any time regardless of how long they have harbored the virus and remained healthy? (I hope that made some kind of sense) Sue MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = yes, cats can retest negative on IFAs if enough time has passed so that the virus can work itself out of the system. just as with initial exposure, the time period given varies from 60 to 120 days, depending on who/what you read--i go for the 120 days or longer, so i don't always wonder.. tho it's not mentioned in the current on-line merck manual, and i never thought to keep the reference back when i first read it in 2003 or so, it used to refer to a case where it took a cat seven or nine (my memory is going) for a cat to revert to negative on an IFA. generally, however, if 120 days or so has passed since last possible exposure, i figure they're not gonna seroconvert--but until/if the virus gets activated, they're just positive, not sick. my little pastel calico, lorelei, who came to me last summer solstice, just retested positive on the IFA when she was spayed, so i'd say that it's pretty definite that she's gonna stay positive. but it didn't really matter, because it wasn't going to change anything one way or another, so there was no rush here to retest and for those who don't know, all my others are either vaccinated, or were inadvertently exposed almost eight years ago, so she's no threat to anything other than my peace of mind--calico, after all. MC On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Laura B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks ago I joined this list but couldn't post, so Belinda very kindly posted an introduction for myself and my FeLV+ kitty, Laura. Thank so much for the replies we got, we read them all. I wanted to send in a little update on Laura (still don't have a new name for her), she is doing very well. Most of her fur is growing back (she had bald patches) and since being on the l-lysine she is not drooling nearly as much (she had herpes lesions in her mouth). She seems to be settling in and loves her room with a view. I spend as much time with her as possible, and my nieghbor (another cat person) comes over daily to give her a snack and some lovin. I think she has also put on a little weight, which is good because she is quite thin, other than that she is doing well. My vet just had me bring her in and restest her, (IFA), she came back positive again. Do cats ever test neg on an IFA after testing positive? Vet also retested the three cats in her care that were positive on snap tests a month ago when she discovered Laura's status. Out of the three only one retested pos on an IFA test. Anyway, just wanted to pop in and thank you all, also give a little update on my sweet girl. Best regards, Human Laura and furry Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
List
Is the list working and am I still signed up? Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Buzz test
Hello everyone... Buzz finally had his test yesterday and it was positive again. My vet tells me it is very rare for a cat to become negative after the second test after three months has come back positive. Is that what everyones experience has been? The vet also said he seems to be very healthy, so we will count our blessings. I tried to put this vets name on the vet list that MaryChristine gave a link to recently but the site will not let me do anything. This vet has been very supportive and is willing to learn more about FeLV+ options. Thank you to everybody here for all the help and advise you put on this list. I am pretty new and not very knowledgeable so I don't participate that much, but I read everything and it helps a lot. Sue
Re: spaying
Hi, Lynn, Anyone who knows from this list all that you did for BooBoo also knows that Snowy is a lucky kitty to have you. I'm so glad to hear things are going well for her and you. Is she ending up being your cat? Best wishes for her next Thursday. So many cats get spayed all the time with no problems. I'm sure she will come through with flying colors. Sue Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Hi all, I haven't posted in a while but have been reading all the emails. I guess this is a little off topic but I need some reassurance. This coming Thursday we are taking our Snowy in to be spayed. It was part of the contract I signed when we adopted her from the foster mom. She's the rescued girl we got after BooBoo died. She's a 3 year old persian and I am scared to death about doing this. We've had her for about a month and the vet thought it a good idea that we wait til she adjusted to us, which took about a day. She had been neglected in the past and had basically lived in a cage until she was rescued. She had feline herpes and a respiratory infection when she was taken but recovered nicely and was immunized when we got her. I just keep thinking that if we had not had BooBoo neutered he may have fared better. I truly believe that it hastened his demise. I hope I'm wrong about this and even though we have always had our cats neutered, I realize spaying is a little more complicated. The vet assured us she would be fine but if we lost her I don't think we'd ever recover. She is an amazing precious little girl. We haven't had a younger cat in the house for a long time and she is so playful and comes to bed with me every night when I go upstairs. She talks to us all the time in these little meows and you can tell she is really happy. The field worker who investigated BooBoo's previous owners came by last week to meet her and see how she was doing and was amazed at her too. He commented that we were lucky to get her because hundreds of people applied. She's kind of a poster child in this area for abused animals. He also said she was very lucky to have got us, which was very nice of him. Lynne
Today is test day
Hello everybody, Today after work I will take Buzz to have his first re-test since he was diagnosed positive for FeLV. I am trying not to hope too much, but there is a bottle of champagne in the fridge if he turns out negative. Tuna for Buzz - I don't think he likes champagne. Meanwhile he has been released from his room and is socializing with the other cats. I did some of the things the people in this group recommended and that probably helped. All went well until a couple of days ago when some electricians came to our house. He really freaked! He hid for 8 hours after they were gone. His fear probably had something to do with the abuse he received as a kitten. Anyway, if anyone would care to say a prayer for my little kitty it sure would be appreciated. Sue
Re: Today is test day
The first test Buzz had was negative, when my brother still had him. That was last fall. When my vet re-tested him in January he was positive. (They did both the in-office test and a blood test afterwards.) If he tests positive tonight I will not re-test him until just before the other cats get their boosters next year. MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = sending GLOW that buzz tests negative, of course! sharyl, i have learned never to retest until it's been 120-days, the generally-considered time for the virus to work itself out of a kitty's body (tho there used to be a reference in the merck to one cat that stayed positive on the ifa for seven or eight months before converting--i never kept the citation, and it hasn't been in the current pages for awhile now.)--if i do it before that time, it just means i'm gonna retest at the designated time anyway, just to be sure--and it saves money to wait, too. (first time i had to test everyone in the house, after a cat who'd tested negative on a shelter saliva test--oy, was I young and innocent then died from complications of FeLV, i did it like at 90 days. and then found out it might have been too early. if my vet hadn't gently suggested that i not worry, and just wait to see if anyone became syptomatic and THEN test, i would have repeated it for all the furkids in a month. as i've said before, that was 8 years in july, and i'm still waiting for symptoms to show up. MC On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sue, Fingers and toes crossed for Buzz today. I had Rocket retested Tuesday when I took her in to be spayed. Still positive after 8 weeks on lactoferrin and DMG. We just started the Mega C Plus and will test again in a few months. Wish the darn test didn't cost $46. Since Rocket was still positive I didn't waste my money testing Sissy. If Buzz has given the electrician a paws down I'd listen to him. Saying a prayer for you and Buzz. Sharyl Sissy and Rocket *Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hello everybody, Today after work I will take Buzz to have his first re-test since he was diagnosed positive for FeLV. I am trying not to hope too much, but there is a bottle of champagne in the fridge if he turns out negative. Tuna for Buzz - I don't think he likes champagne. Meanwhile he has been released from his room and is socializing with the other cats. I did some of the things the people in this group recommended and that probably helped. All went well until a couple of days ago when some electricians came to our house. He really freaked! He hid for 8 hours after they were gone. His fear probably had something to do with the abuse he received as a kitten. Anyway, if anyone would care to say a prayer for my little kitty it sure would be appreciated. Sue -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: Buzz emancipated
Carmen, He sounds like a sweetheart. Was he a negative? Charlie also has asthma and has had problems with his eyes. I think I'll start putting lysine in their food before the mix happens. Sue Carmen Conklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Hi Sue, Our Saffron kitty was a HUGE washer and lover of everyone. He slept with four in a kitty bed and they'd sneeze on him and everything. And I wouldn't say that he had the greatest immune system in the world either. I do believe that many cats simply build up resistance to the FeLV virus and are more immune to it. Saffron washed everyone and they washed him. We miss him. He had several ear surgeries for polyps but he lived to be over 19. Carmen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Buzz emancipatedDate: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:30:05 -0400 Hi,Carmen. It's good to hear of the success stories. My other cats chase each other a lot but I don't think they do much biting. Charllie is the loveable one who thinks it is his job to wash everybody, though. He is the one I am most worried about. - Original Message - From: Carmen Conklin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: RE: Buzz emancipated Hi Sue, Glad to hear you are letting Buzz out into the general population. We have had good success with mixing our FeLV kits with non positive cats. We have had 4 different felines who lived in close association with the other felines and they did NOT have a FeLV vaccination either. They never got it. One lived with the FeLV's for over 3 years and then we moved him to another home. Another lived to be very old. They never fought, or bit, so never got it and the FeLV virus dies pretty quickly if a cat sneezes, etc..We put interferon in the water daily to boost all of them, but we have had a good success rate for mixing. And Buzz will be happier I am sure. Carmen (mostly a lurker, but have posted a few times)! Have a great day. Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:39:13 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Buzz emancipated Hello, everyone, This coming Friday the last of my 5 FeLV- cats will get his booster. Then I will wait the appropriate amount of time and release Buzz from his prison room into the general population. I am scared to death. I would rather continue to keep them seperate but Buzz is crazy to escape his room every time we open the door and the time I spend behind the closed door with him is taking away from my family, not to mention the other cats. My question is this; is there anything anyone knows of besides the vaccinations that I can do for my other cats that may help to protect them? They are all being fed the Wellness canned food. Buzz will soon be getting a vitamin suppliment that is supposed to boost the immune systems of FeLV+ cats that my vet found, but I doubt if it does anything to stop the virus from shedding. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Sue Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. _ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008
Buzz emancipated
Hello, everyone, This coming Friday the last of my 5 FeLV- cats will get his booster. Then I will wait the appropriate amount of time and release Buzz from his prison room into the general population. I am scared to death. I would rather continue to keep them seperate but Buzz is crazy to escape his room every time we open the door and the time I spend behind the closed door with him is taking away from my family, not to mention the other cats. My question is this; is there anything anyone knows of besides the vaccinations that I can do for my other cats that may help to protect them? They are all being fed the Wellness canned food. Buzz will soon be getting a vitamin suppliment that is supposed to boost the immune systems of FeLV+ cats that my vet found, but I doubt if it does anything to stop the virus from shedding. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Sue
Re: Update on New Positive
Wow! What great news! Congratulations! Buzz is goint to be re-tested on April 24th and I have a bottle of Champagne in the fridge in hopes of a negative test. Sue Kenzie Kanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = This is how our household situation is- I began bottle feeding kittens in May- they were found in a burn barrell. In July, new to my kitty care, I took in a kitten they thought needed feeding but turned out he was very sick and near death when I got him. Worm infested and dehydrated and cold to the touch, I took him to the vet who thought I was crazy because he was so near death but we wormed him and gave him fluids- The next day was a huge turn around and the weeks and months that followed even more so. We did go through a bout of ringworm but the girls never got it just him. In August, they got their vet work done before working on new homes for them and all three came back FELV positive. I was devastated but ignored the advice of euthanasia and kept them for myself. We ordered Mega C Plus and another supplement and began that. They had a life and were healthy and happy! In late September Frankie, the male, had another bout w/ vomiting and weight loss, the girls never had it. We separated him and went through weeks of antibiotic and he eventually began eating and turn around and rejoined the house. He didn't play as often, just sat quietly but he was eating drinking and using the litter box. NO fevers or any other signs of illness except his quietness. In October, things gradually went down hill for Frankie and we put him down in November. I truely believe Frankie was the carrier giving the girls the exposure. The girls were still happy and healthy. I volunteer for rescue and as in the previous emails, my spare room has been used for extras w/out homes. As you know, we had that light positive and the mom and brother weren't and they have been separate from my girls. Yesterday, we retested the rescue, Jill, and my girls Maggie and MitzyTHEY ARE ALL NEGATIVE!! The vet asked lots of questions because they are unfamiliar w/ FELV and don't usually actively treat it. We are so happy for this. Jill gets to go to her new home and my girls get to celebrate their first birthday in May. We are aware that this result can turn around under times of stress and age but for now we are celebrating!Kenzie KanneARC Volunteer (712)830-9518www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarrollanimalrescueofcarroll.org _ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164ocid=T003MSN51N1653A
Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!
This may sound really stupid but what makes them think that Cobra-Venom will cure Feline Leukemia? Hurrah if it does! Sue Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Just received this from *www.10thlife.org *newsletter, dare we hope???* * *Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline Leukemia* For more than a year we’ve been waiting for the federal government to approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind research study that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of Florida to proceed, but – if the drug cures the disease – sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere. Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind “pilot study” using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study – which Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV. The drug’s manufacturer will supply the drug to us for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with the results forwarded to Dr. Levy). No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe and there are no known side effects. For the last two weeks I’ve been looking for a location to conduct the pilot study (we can’t do it at the sanctuary). Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together. We will need to raise money for the pilot study and if we proceed to the bigger study, we’ll have to raise money for that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the drug does cure FeLV, /10th Life /will receive a royalty on each sale of the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the manufacturer’s research budget is for human - not animal – trials), and (2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats. We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few days I’ll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners... this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives will be saved. In the meantime, please continue to support us with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and now that I’m spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every donation to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com
Cat Dancer
Lance, I believe you were the one who recommended the cat dancer toy for Buzz. Well I found one over the weekend and put it up this morning. When I left for work he was happily bouncing it all over the place. Thanks for the tip! Sue
RE: more questions and thankyou
Now I am worried. I have been taking good care of Buzz's dishes and washing my
hands after I leave his room. If this virus lasts on clothing then I have put
my other cats at risk every time I pick them up in spite of the precautions.
Sue
Dorothy Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Apparently the virus CAN live for a while. I have read in several places that
you need to clean any area with a bleach/water cleaner if a + cat has been
where a negative one will be staying. It is said that you should wait 30 days
after your + cat is gone before you should introduce a new negative cat into
the household.
Armond (my 9 yr old + kitty) was infected by a stray we brought in (and
sadfully neglected to have tested.) Armond was always super healthy and had
ALWAYS been vaccinated. My more fragile diabetic did NOT test positive - Go
figure! I had them all retested after 12 weeks and those tests were consistent
with the first one!
When we brought Preston home, he seemed to have diarrhea for a long time. (I
am sure that part of it was due to the changing of his food, even though it was
done gradually). I just kept mixing his wet food with lots of water to make
sure that he got plenty of fluids and he is so much better now. He has only
been with us for about 6 weeks and he came from a HUGE shelter so I am not sure
how long he had the diarrhea.
I know it IS overwhelming...still learning about it too. We just went
through our first sickness when Armond got calicivirus. (A respiratory thing
that settled in his mouth as nasty sores.) That lasted 5 weeks!
Good luck with your friends!
whocares whocares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Firstly, thankyou to everyone who responded and for the advice thusfar. Milli's
diahrea is getting better with Neorase and probiotics, etc..
I've gotten 5 of the 7 new ones tested and they've all come back FeLV+. 5 are
housed together and the other 2 are each in their own rooms. I have 8 immune
challenged cats of my own (some of which are permanent fosters) and am a little
worried now.
What precautions do I have to take? Is FeLV extremely contagious? My dishwasher
has a sani cycle which I've been using. Does sanitizing kill the virus? Is it
easily spread on clothes? How close does the contact have to be between cats?
How long does the virus live outside the body?
Lance, how much DMG do you give? I have some for my HCM kitty.
I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada. Does anyone know where I can get Transfer
Factor? No naturpath, etc. here seems to have heard of it.
I'm way over my head here. Please give me as much advice (even if it sounds
simple) as you can.
Thanks
El
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Re: update: Athena
Beth, I can understand how dissapointed you must feel that Athena re-tested positive. I was so bummed when Buzz tested positive. He will re-test in April and I am afraid I am just hopeing too much for him to test negative, if the outcome is not what I am praying for it will really be hard. I have five other cats and he is living in a room all by himself. He hates being shut away from all that is going on in the rest of the house but the risk to the others is just too great. I agree with you about not getting another one. It just seems like it could become a viscous cycle. What do you do if you lose one, keep replaceing them? It is all so heartbreaking. So my Buzz will live out his life in a room away from the others unless he receives the miracle of a negative test. He is treated like a king in that room, though. I just got him a cat condo this past weekend and he LOVES it. I also spend as much time as I can with him. At first I was even trying to find another home for him but I really can't imagine ever giving him up. He is such a great cat, but if a situation ever came up where he would have a really great home, I would let him go for his happieness. Good luck to you no matter what you decide to do. Sue Beth Gouldin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Hi all So Athena just re-tested on ELISA a weak positive. This is 9 weeks from the first testing that we did when we lost Orion to FeLV. I guess I'm just disheartened... I had REALLY hoped (for her sake) that she would be negative - she seems so healthy...no major problems or anything... and we really wanted to get another cat for a companion for her. My husband and I have talked and we just can't bring closure to ourselves to intentionally get another FeLV + cat... which means pretty much she's gonna stay a single cat. I don't know, in my mind it just seems that it would be a perpetually bleak cycle (and I know that it's not true simply because of the joy they bring..but this is my bummed out- ness coming through) to have 'sick' cats that can just die any time. Do any of you have experiences bringing in another cat? Do you always elect to get another FeLV +? How do kittens generally fare? Our vet suggested bringing in a FeLV negative vaccinated adult...but I don't want even the SLIGHTEST risk of exposing another cat to this. Any feedback would help me out...I'm so frustrated with this whole thing. Thanks for listening :} -- Beth Gouldin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 940.395.5393 God Bless!!!
E-Mail Help
Hello everyone - I think my computer is blocking out the e-mails from this site. Yesterday I got nothing that I could read, but there were some e-mails coming through with nothing in the from column and no subject in the subject column. Those were coming with the same frequency as the FeLV e-mails usually come, and they just started yesterday. I have never gotten that type of thing before the FeLV e-mails stopped coming. I don't think I did anything different on my computer. Also, today some old FeLV messages came through, ones from last week judging from the subjects being discussed, that I had not gotten then. I would really like to get this working again, the advise from this group helps so much. If anyone has any suggestions, please e-mail me direct. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Sue
Holistic Vets
Hi, All - First off, Lynn, I am so glad to hear Boo Boo is doing better. I had a cat who had fluid removed and she did not do anywhere near so well afterwards. Don't give up on that little fighter any time soon! I am thinking about taking Buzz to a Holistic Vet. When I questioned my regular vet about Immuno-Regulin and Interferon she said she had not heard of much success with those things and said I might want to consider a Holistic Vet. I e-mailed one and asked if they could do anything for a FeLV+ cat that would be peventative and might help them throw the virus. It is quite a distance from my home and I don't want to put Buzz through the stress of the trip if it won't do him any good. Sue
Re: Holistic Vets
Lynne, I know what you mean about the vets - my vet acted like she thinks I'm a pain for even asking about preventative measures. And it has always seemed like they considered dogs to be more importent. WE know better. What is the Factor One and what is it suppose to do? Buzz is still pretty healthy and I would sure like to keep him that way. He worries me when he pants when he plays, though. Sue Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Sue, I spoke with Karen at length last night and she recommended something called Factor One. I'm gonna call the supplier today. My vet has now told me that interferon will not help BooBoo as it is too late. I've decided that I will do what I can within reason to help BooBoo keep comfortable. I've had to stop the Doxycycline because it is too stressful for him. Perhaps we can restart it next week if he's better or if the culture comes back suggesting another antibiotic I'll try that. Our vet is a really nice guy but is not encouraging and it seems like now he does not want to do anything unless we tell him what to do. He's concerned I suppose about the expense of all this treatment and the inevitable results. Good luck with the Holistic vet. Around here this disease seems like something that has not interested a lot of vets and they just euthanize, which is shameful. Also, a lot of vets seem to be more interested in dogs than cats, probably because there are so many feral cats around and they are causing problems. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FeLV Talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Holistic Vets Hi, All - First off, Lynn, I am so glad to hear Boo Boo is doing better. I had a cat who had fluid removed and she did not do anywhere near so well afterwards. Don't give up on that little fighter any time soon! I am thinking about taking Buzz to a Holistic Vet. When I questioned my regular vet about Immuno-Regulin and Interferon she said she had not heard of much success with those things and said I might want to consider a Holistic Vet. I e-mailed one and asked if they could do anything for a FeLV+ cat that would be peventative and might help them throw the virus. It is quite a distance from my home and I don't want to put Buzz through the stress of the trip if it won't do him any good. Sue
Re: breathing
My prayers are with you and BooBoo. Sue Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = BooBoo is getting worse. I called the vet this morning and he answered the phone and told us to bring him in. He told me he felt it was the anemia getting worse and sadly this sounds like he's at the end stage of this disease. I have to go to work so I just spent some time with him. He's still gasping for air, mouth breathing but was purring and rolled over to be petted. Bob has to take him to the vet and I've instructed him to tell Dr. Gill to treat this if at all possible. I don't care what he has to do. If there is at all a chance he can recover from this setback I want measures taken. I absolutely hate the fact that I can't be home today. Lynne
Re: + - cats together
Thanks for the ideas! I googled the cat dancer and it is very similar to Buzz's favorite toy which is a wand with a long leather string tied to a mouse with feathers. He plays so hard with that toy that he ends up panting. While on that website I found something called Mouse in the House that looks like it will be good for the long times when he is alone. We have to keep his room locked because one of our other cats, Scottie, is very good at opening closed doors. Every time I visit him I have to pick the lock from the outside. I say goodbye to him before I leave for work, and check on him for a few minutes when I come home. Then I have to fix dinner and after it is cleaned up I try to bring him out to the family room on my lap for a little bit, but he doesn't want to be held out there. I end up going back in his room with him for the rest of the evening. The idea about a bird feeder will work and I think grass in tubs would be good also. I assume cat grass is OK for FeLV + ? The other cats would enjoy the grass, also. All of them are indoor cats. Can't play favorites. Maybe after some time goes by Buzz will get used to living in one room and not cry so. Sue Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Try bird feeders near the window and a window perch. Cats can bat balls and toys even on carpet. A nice box to hide in would be great. I had two cats who loved the Catnip (I think that is the title) tape (birds, squirrels etc) even though they had a 12x6x6 covered kennel with 24/7 access. Lots of personal time with you too.maybe a tv or radio to listen to part of the time (not all of the time--it becomes noise then). Dixie has three pans (goat food size rubber pans) on dollies with grass and capnip growing in them. She can get into the pans and roll in the grass and catnip and have a ball (she has three because she wears them down and they need time to refresh). A warm place to snuggle, maybe with a snuggle safe. Ideas.take what works for you and for Amond. On Feb 17, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Lance wrote: I think most cats play best with interactive toys. Ember loves the Cat Charmer, and while we haven't played with it in awhile, she liked the Cat Dancer, too. I also have a few pieces of elastic material that my mom gave me, and those work. A cat condo with a view is a great idea. Lance On Feb 17, 2008, at 5:10 PM, Sue Frank Koren wrote: Dorothy, Thank you for telling about Armond. I guess that answers my question - they can be infected even with the vaccination. That is too much risk for me and my original cats. If one of them got sick I would feel horrible! I don't want to get another FeLV+ cat, it seems like that would just double the trouble, and both of them in this small room. The best I can do is make this as a place as possible for him. I already have one of those donuts with a ball inside, a soft square he can hide in and various other cat toys. I think I will replace the chair by the window with a cat condo. Any suggestions for making room sweet room a fun place for Buzz to be? The floor is carpeted, so things that roll across the floor don't work. Sue - Original Message - From: Dorothy Noble To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 1:34 PM Subject: + - cats together To Sue Frank ~ I absolutely understand about you wanting Buzz to be with the others. It is so tough to have them separated. We brought in a stray a year ago and did not have her tested (but we did have her vaccinated). Anyway, she was positive and exposed our others. Armond caught the virus but my other cat did not. All of my animals were always vaccinated. Based on my experience, I would not mix them. I have had Armond since he was 4 weeks old, he has had all of his shots and he still tested positive from being with the other positive cat. We just adopted another FeLV positive cat so Armond could have a friend and we had a special house built for them. It works out great. Dorothy Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: breathing difficulties
Lynne - You must have been scared to death! I know I would have been. Maybe the shots will be easier on him then trying to get things down his throat. I purchase something on e-bay, I think it is called a kitty cuddler that is made to wrap a cat in to give medications. Maybe something like that would make it less stressful for BooBoo. I bought it for my Tucker because he is AWFUL with any oral meds. - gentle sweet kitty turns into evil clawing tiger. I was afraid he would hurt himself because he fights so hard, and I know he clawed me pretty well a few times. Fortunatly I have not had to give him anything since I purchased it and I do not know how well it works yet. Sue Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = I had a frightening event with BooBoo this morning. He hates being given this Doxy and fights me. I gave him some water via syringe after it as well. Suddenly he started gasping for air, breathing through his mouth for about 10 minutes. He is anemic and breathes heavily under normal circumstances. I can't imagine what kind of stress the Interferon shots are going to cause him. Should I try mixing this Doxy with his wet food? It's doubtful he would get the appropriate dosage if I did because he is a light eater. I'm beginning to think that I'm fighting a losing battle here and perhaps it would be best to just let nature take its course without intervention. I hate this. One minute he seems perky and now he's just exhausted. I spent the time with him while he was having problems breathing comforting him, just to get him settled down and even his purring was excessively loud. I don't know how much more this little guy can tolerate. Lynne
Re: o/t cat facial expressions
Oh, they DEFINITLY have expressions! Whenever I try to brush my Tucker (Which he HATES) or stop him from jumping on one of the other cats he glares takes out his frustration on the cat scratcher. He really ATTACKS it! At least it's not the furnature! MacKenzie wrote: = I'm just wondering, what do y'all think--do we imagine facial expressions on our cats -- and put our own interpretation on them -- or do they actually reflect a real mood?! Lynne's mention of BooBoo scowling makes me think of one of my ferals who I swear looks, in turn, frequently pissed off at me (when I won't let him mix without supervision -- he sprays), guilty (when he gets the better of me, and sprays), and disdainful (when I bring one of my tame cats to see him and his Buddy). One of my tame cats, Katyis, also has a marvellous indignant expression that he pulls on me following (to my mind) imagined slights. Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: breathing difficulties No, he didn't aspirate. I gave the water immediately after the doxy so I don't know which caused it. I think he was hyperventilating. I stayed with him til he calmed down and went to sleep, and honestly I'm afraid to go upstairs. I'm sure he does sense my anxiety. He does not like to be held or confined in any manner. What bugs me though is when we go to the vet, the vet can do anything to him, give him pills, take his temp and BooBoo will just go limp, won't argue, fight, nothing, just scowel. Better go upstairs and make sure he's just sleeping. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: Re: breathing difficulties Did he aspirate? Was the problem after the water or after the doxy? Maybe the water isn't working with him. I would call the vet and ask about this. Our vet told us we had to give the doxy directly (not mixed in food). Midas hated it too. It's really important thing is for YOU to be calm before you give him the meds and don't think about it before you actually do it. This is how I got Frankie, a formerly feral kitten, to take inhaled meds. I had to calm my own mind. I also think they can sense if we are going to give them a med so I didn't think about it before I sat down to do it. It did help. Our cats sense our mood...I hope this makes sense. I just got up. L - Original Message - From: Lynne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:53 AM Subject: breathing difficulties I had a frightening event with BooBoo this morning. He hates being given this Doxy and fights me. I gave him some water via syringe after it as well. Suddenly he started gasping for air, breathing through his mouth for about 10 minutes. He is anemic and breathes heavily under normal circumstances. I can't imagine what kind of stress the Interferon shots are going to cause him. Should I try mixing this Doxy with his wet food? It's doubtful he would get the appropriate dosage if I did because he is a light eater. I'm beginning to think that I'm fighting a losing battle here and perhaps it would be best to just let nature take its course without intervention. I hate this. One minute he seems perky and now he's just exhausted. I spent the time with him while he was having problems breathing comforting him, just to get him settled down and even his purring was excessively loud. I don't know how much more this little guy can tolerate. Lynne _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not
Re: CLS
Lynne - NO WAY could BooBoo be depressed about leaving his last owners! It sounds to be like he chose you to be his people long before any money changed hands! The people on this site are so full of hope for these kittys. I think your BooBoo has as good a chance as any of them, especially if you are proactive and get him the right kind of veterinary attention asap. Best wishes to you both. Sue Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Thank you Wendy. I will call my vet today about the Doxycycline and Hemobartanella. Here are the results of BooBoo's blood work. This is a Canadian lab so I don't know if the values are the same as in the US. WBC9.9MCV57 WBC FLAGEOS (8.9) RBC3.95 MCH20.0 % LYM29.1 LYM2.8 HGB7.9 MCHC 35.2 % MON6.5 MONO .6 HCT22.4RDW17.5 % GRA64.4 6.5 PLT81MPV11.0 He wasn't doing very well last night, extremely fatigued. I did hear him eating some crunchy food this morning, drink either the water or milk I put down for him last night. I know you aren't supposed to give cats milk but I'm desparate here to get some fluids into him. He did wake me up by jumping on the bed this morning and purring in my face. My husband thought he felt really warm last night and actually I did too. He's cool this momrning. What I have noticed that kind of concerns me is that when he's sleeping his chest seems to rise unusually high with each breath, like he has to try extra hard to breath. This could be the anemia right? He does have a bit of a runny nose too. Calling the vet today. I did manage to get the previous owners to give me his birthday. He will be 5 in July. This makes me think that he got infected by a neighborhood cat when he was allowed to roam. If that's the case, statistically he's on his last leg. I was also wondering if he could be depressed. As bad as his previous environment was, maybe he misses those people and his original home. Could hormonal changes after his neutering be a reason for his lack of interest in anything? He was just neutered last Friday. Gotta get moving here and go to work, although BooBoo is my real full time job these days. Lynne - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:26 AM Subject: Re: CLS Hill's A/D is a good tasting recovery food loaded with vitamins and minerals... I buy it by the case for my guys... You probably have to buy it from your vet but it could help... In the archives or files for this group there are directions for liver shake which is about the same thing... Tad Marylyn wrote: Something that may have already been addressed: Feed the absolute best you can...no grains if possible. Dixie eats organic and Primal Raw + finely chopped carrots, spinach etc. One of my holistic vets recommends vitamin C. There are lots of good supplements. Dr. Susan Maier at the Horizon Vet Services in Simpsonville Ky does phone consultations and has had good luck with FELV+. Dr. E A Boswell in Louisville Ky has also had good luck. I see both of them and think the world of them. They compliment and do not replace my regular vets. If you decide you need phone consultations I'll get you phone numbers or you can Google them. On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:14 PM, wendy wrote: Hey Lynne, My name is Wendy. I've been active on this site for over 2 years now, although not as active lately. There are lots of good people here and it looks like you've been given some great advice. I just wanted to say a few things that came to mind as I read the posts regarding Boo Boo, some of which might have already been touched on. First, if you don't find a vet that will work to save Boo Boo, find one who will. It means all the difference in you and Boo Boo being supported at this trying time. Second, absolutely get the prescrip for doxycycline and treat for hemobartaenella regardless of the test. It's extremely difficult to see the parasites on a slide; one minute they're there, the next they're not. The treatment is three weeks minimum. Third, prednisone (or prednisolone) is a good treatment for anemia. Also, depending on how dire the anemia is, Epogen might also be good. There is lots of information on both of these treatments in the archives. Fourth, what is the anemia diagnosis? Is it regenerative or non-regenerative anemia? What is Boo Boo's HCT/RBC/PCV count exactly? If you don't have a copy of his bloodwork, call the vet and get it so that you know exactly what you're dealing with. You can post those numbers here and there will be people who know what they mean who can help you and Boo
Re: CLS
Lynn, this is the story of the Rainbow Bridge: RainbowsBridge.com Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together Author unknown... Hope that answers your question about the Bridge. Sue Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = I'm sorry for not being knowledgeable of this, but what is CLS and the bridge you folks refer to? I've been busy trying to find some ray of hope for my BooBoo. I showed his blood work to the doc next door at work, who is a dog lover, not a cat but he interpreted it as being pretty bad. He said he has no platelets. He then got on the phone to a Vet friend who takes care of his dogs and gave him a brief history of Boo and his blood work. The vet said there was nothing I could do about the situation and that most cats after being diagnosed lived for 2 years at a max. I don't even know when BooBoo contracted the disease so who knows how long he has. This vet though kept saying, it doesn't mean he's going to die, whatever the H that means. I also have a pharmacist friend who is meeting with a vet friend of his in Detroit tomorrow and he too is running Boo's history by him to see if there is anything at all to help him. Apparently Immuno Regulin is not available here in Canada so he's going to talk to this man about it tomorrow. People have been very kind and honest but I just am finding this impossible to accept. I can't wait to get home from work to see him and almost start bawling when I am with him. I totally hate this. I just hope he isn't feeling any pain. He mostly sleeps but does purr a lot and seems to love having us around him. I just don't know what else to do. Lynne
