[Felvtalk] euthanized Shallie Marie, yesterday the last of my
six that tested positive in March 2010. Thanks for being with us - - lights in the darkness. I had suspected she was crashing. Vets thought it was dental . . . two weeks later. will leave it there. Now she joins her intrepid son Isaac, Mama and Luscious, Torie Rose and BreAnne. cz___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] off topic - - removing kitten's eye
Thank you for your kindness, your replies and your counsel of experience. I woke up this morning much calmer for your presence. peace, prosperity, health and laughter cz, et.al. m Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 07:22:39 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] off topic - - removing kitten's eye Briefly I chose to foster 3 kittens with significant conjunctivitis from the local pound about 2 weeks and 2 days ago. That was on a Saturday. I knew come Monday they would be killed. I have spent significant $ of my $ by choice.. I have been doing rescue work for 35 years and I've seen many eyes that were severely infected. Having one eye doesn't seem to affect their ability to get adopted, in fact people often feel they want to help cats with one eye or minus a leg. My neighbor just adopted a totally blind cat. I couldn't get her to take one of mine (I have way too many cats) but she adopted this blind cat from the vet's office! I still have a cat who is blind in one eye and another with chronic herpes infection. His eyes must be wiped out every day to keep them from being goopy. They are permanent cats at our home. There is no cure for the virus as antibiotics have been tried, but will not work on viral infections only bacterial infections. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] off topic - - removing kitten's eye
I trust your insights and experiences. Briefly I chose to foster 3 kittens with significant conjunctivitis from the local pound about 2 weeks and 2 days ago. That was on a Saturday. I knew come Monday they would be killed. I have spent significant $ of my $ by choice. All tested negative for FIV, fe leukemia and heart worm this past Saturday. I chose to vaccinate them including fe leukemia this past Saturday. Maya Mia is about 2 months old. Her left eye is swollen. The eye is cloudy and has become vascularized. There is no evidence of pus. Her right eye had/has a corneal ulcer. There is a small amount of cloudiness. Two vets have recommended to remove the left eye. The first vet backed off that it was an emergency when I asked her what if re: the corneal ulcer eye. Two local rescue groups say they have good fortune re: placing kittens with less than optimal vision. My question to you is, what has been your experience re: letting nature take it's course. she happily and accurately leaps from atop a cage to one 2.5 away. She is active. The kittens contemplated future is with an area SPCA. Their doors are not open to them at the present. They would be adopted into forever homes from the SPCA or stay at the facility if not adopted.. The first vet advised me to use opthalmic antibiotic drops for the present. I had used opthalmic ointment on both eyes for 10 days. thank you. cz m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] correction: jumping to top of another cage 2.5' away sorry
I trust your insights and experiences. Briefly I chose to foster 3 kittens with significant conjunctivitis from the local pound about 2 weeks and 2 days ago. That was on a Saturday. I knew come Monday they would be killed. I have spent significant $ of my $ by choice. All tested negative for FIV, fe leukemia and heart worm this past Saturday. I chose to vaccinate them including fe leukemia this past Saturday. Maya Mia is about 2 months old. Her left eye is swollen. The eye is cloudy and has become vascularized. There is no evidence of pus. Her right eye had/has a corneal ulcer. There is a small amount of cloudiness. Two vets have recommended to remove the left eye. The first vet backed off that it was an emergency when I asked her what if re: the corneal ulcer eye. Two local rescue groups say they have good fortune re: placing kittens with less than optimal vision. My question to you is, what has been your experience re: letting nature take it's course. she happily and accurately leaps from atop a cage four foot off the ground to one at the same level 2.5 feet away. She is active. The kittens contemplated future is with an area SPCA. Their doors are not open to them at the present. They would be adopted into forever homes from the SPCA or stay at the facility if not adopted.. The first vet advised me to use opthalmic antibiotic drops for the present. I had used opthalmic ointment on both eyes for 10 days. thank you. cz m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Mama died in my arms last night
Her eyes were clear and wonderfully green and her fur luxurious; her teeth were good. Mama was highly anemic. She crashed in about a 10-day period. Mama wasn't Isaac's mama. He left in Feburary 2011. Some of you will remember his story. Mama was his acting mama. Now he and Mama and BreAnne and TorieRose are together. Thank you for being with us. purrs rubs cz___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment
THANK YOU FOR THIS FASCINATING DISCUSSION. I want to come at this from a different viewpoint - -related to intestinal issues You have all read about Yahmuna here (FIV+) with chronic respiratory issues. Yes, she has gingivitis. Yes, most recently she was on a 2 week course of doxycycline (that was in Jan - - nothing since). When she came to my patio Nov 2010 she looked pregnant. She had tape worm, . . . The week following my adopting her back from the SPCA (Jan 2012) she was wormed with a topical wormer with amazing results. I came back with strongid. My assessment is that she still has worms. any comments re: stomatitis/gingivitis and worms? any advise? Thanks cz -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Brando and Luna
Sherry and SIDS family, Natalie, and all of us who share with each other here, please wrap yourselves in all-day and night hugs from me. thank you for you soft hearts and open arms. cz ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] off subject but feline
Jean Feraca of WI public radio uses a word unremembered by me which describes people unknown to each other involved in a work on behalf of God. The recent Purina Rally to Rescue magazine featured an article Loved and Found about volunteers using animal allies to find strayed beloveds. with that . . . Rheis, a petite, long-haired talkative tortie had lived outside for some months. Sherry fed this cat who had arrived in the rough neighborhood by unknown means. Peggy Satterwhite of Vance County SPCA and I trapped this likely-to-be pregnant cat on March 5. Rheis came home with me. Rheis went to SNAP - NC and was aborted and spayed; we visited the vet, visited Sherry who was certain she did not want Rheis as a dependent, and visited the Wake County SPCA who put Rheis on their waiting list for their adoption center. Rheis lives with us in a one bedroom apartment - - separated for health reasons - - from the heart of the home i.e Scrumptious and Mama and Pookashay and Shallie Marie and Luscious. There is usually a temporary, non-paying feline house guest in what seems to be a convalescent center. Karin who lives in the same apartment building as we but on the back side and above ground level wanted Rheis to meet Toby. Toby, her 14 year-old rescue, might be willing to have an additional housemate. Karin picked up Rheis Saturday afternoon. No fur flew. I went up late in the afternoon to pick up Rheis before Karin left for mass. Rheis wanted no part of being caught. I left and revisited after Karin's return. Rheis was much more social now. She moved back and forth from the cat-safe patio where Toby was hanging out. She allowed herself to be petted. The revised plan was that Rheis would spend the night. She had been sharing food and the litter box. 11:17 p.m. call from Karin. Rheis had exited the patio to the ground. I dressed and went to . . .Karin had spoken to a visitor who went for a flashlight. (the vistior called me by name, recalling an incident with a kitten at the dialysis center). The visitor saw eyes staring back at her from the dark woods. Karin and the visitor went into the woods. Harold and James, the outside ferals, knew something was going on and monitored the activities. Toby was talking from the patio. Rheis had shown herself to be tame with a big motor. She lived in a double cage unreachable to her housemates and at night in the bathroom. No Rheis. I went home and turned out my heart. Yahmuna (FIV+) and I went to bed. I pondered what I was going to say to the SPCA and search strategy for Sunday. 12:46 p.m. I heard a meow at the door and opened to see Rheis and Mama. I put Yahmuna into her bedroom and went back and opened the door and Rheis came in. I called Karin. Rheis had never been outdoors at my home . . . had lived the free life of an outdoor cat. HOW AND WHY? Karin is a woman of great faith. cz ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] S'Matter Quigley
rocking with you and your beloveds. thank you for being here with us. what a family we have - - here and beyond. thank you for your faithfull-ness purrs rubs cz Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:55:50 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( Sherry, So sorry about S’Matter. I lost a cat yesterday, had to have Quigley euthanized. NOT from FeLV, but to a very severe kidney infection – he was over 16 yrs old, grey with the most amazing emerald green eyes (left on our doorstep in a carrier years ago). Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( I am sorry for your loss :( Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:30:16 -0800 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy cat,but we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us totally,but when I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot in the last couple monthstook pics to prove to others that he was a little braverwell I hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed nowwe will miss you S'Matter :( Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] took Yahmuna (FIV+) to vet yesterday to get vaccinated for feline leukemia
why be difficult when with a little extra effort you can be impossible. took Yahmuna to vet yesterday with intent to get vaccinated. she had been sneezing during week. gums were inflamed as before. no drooling. she sounded wet. no discharge from eyes or nose. vet noted no temperature. vet listened to lungs. I pointed out her teeth. he said she needed to go on antibiotics - - her lungs - - her teeth - - could go into pneumonia. I reminded him that two weeks ago he said no antibiotics - - only treat when symptomatic. I said I wanted to wait. he said why would I wait? I said antibiotics have not generally been helpful for her. I came home with doxycyline which 30 hours later I have not started. in fairness to him. was hint of greenish mucus at nostrils this morning. a tissue applied only came away wet. she sneezed and there was greenish mucus which landed on the sink. last night her breathing sounded somewhat high-pitched. not today. I did not say I was not going to do anything. have been giving more vitamin C. started the PetzLife oral gel. continuing chicken broth and humidity of shower and humdifier. did a 20 minutes of car therapy (carrier in car - - curved car windows capture heat). I have almost drowned on drive to airport from my own sinus drainage. your comments? thank you. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:39:30 -0800 I had a cat like that - Sounded like upper resp because of scar tissue. She had been a street cat for many many years vet said it was due to not being treated for URI's. They said they could do surgery clear out the scar tissue, but it might come back, so I opted not to do it. She always sounded like she had a URI, but she didn't. Beth From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:47 PM re: Yahmuna: FIV + I first wrote you about Jan. 2010. She came to my NC patio on Thanksgiving with goopy eyes very, very unwell. Went into rescue in 7.2011. they finally had her on every 3 days oral azithromycin and azythromycin nasal drops. She had chronic respiratory issues there. air quality seemed good. I took her to vet this past Saturday when I brought her home forever. Vet's thinking was so much scar tissue/inflammation that she will always be loud breather. He said to discontinue treatment and treat her when she becomes symptomatic. I DID NOTICE THAT HER BREATHING SEEMED BETTER AT VET's OFFICE. no carpet. Her breathing is loud; This morning there was a wee bit of clear moisture draining from one eye. I have humidifier going continually/ she comes for showers. is sequestered in same bedroom where she was from 11.2010 - 7.2011.THANK YOU!!! cz. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:44:18 -0800 Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad congestion every 6 months when the weather changed I started the furnace or air conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV lived fine mixing with my FeLV cats for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there were FeLV's in the house he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper respiratory with a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything, If you are worried about about fighting transferring the FIV, you can have the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds minimize chance of passing the FIV. Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] have not been getting any posts.
missing all of you. Cz ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
no posts? sent this morning and didn't echo back. cz___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties
Thanks for your comments. I trust us and our insights and experience. My heart and gratitude are with always at SIDS and today also with Dublin. My Pooshie appeared to be blinded after being neutered. It took several weeks but it wore off. May it be for Dublin and you. re: Yahmuna: FIV + I first wrote you about Jan. 2010. She came to my NC patio on Thanksgiving with goopy eyes very, very unwell. Went into rescue in 7.2011. they finally had her on every 3 days oral azithromycin and azythromycin nasal drops. She had chronic respiratory issues there. air quality seemed good. I took her to vet this past Saturday when I brought her home forever. Vet's thinking was so much scar tissue/inflammation that she will always be loud breather. He said to discontinue treatment and treat her when she becomes symptomatic. I DID NOTICE THAT HER BREATHING SEEMED BETTER AT VET's OFFICE. no carpet. Her breathing is loud; This morning there was a wee bit of clear moisture draining from one eye. I have humidifier going continually/ she comes for showers. is sequestered in same bedroom where she was from 11.2010 - 7.2011.THANK YOU!!! cz. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:44:18 -0800 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad congestion every 6 months when the weather changed I started the furnace or air conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV lived fine mixing with my FeLV cats for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there were FeLV's in the house he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper respiratory with a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything, If you are worried about about fighting transferring the FIV, you can have the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds minimize chance of passing the FIV. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Purrs Rubs from us to you and your beloveds on Valentine's Day. you've got us!! want to hear your thoughts please. adult spayed FIV + cat is back in my household. chronic upper respiratory. FeLeukemia negative. recommend to vaccinate her for feline leukemia? only vaccine she has ever received is rabies. why I would ever think such a thing follows: recommendations on mixing her with household cats, three of which tested positive for feline leukemia on combo test. FIV + cat is feisty. household female cat who lays down the law is FeLeukemia negative. the FIV+ cat has never shared space with the household five. she is presently sequestered. thank you. cz Thank you. cz Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:38:24 -0500 From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Just so you know that the vaccination is only 80% effective. But it's a lot better than 0% protection. - Original Message - From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Fighting doesn't matter with FeLV if the cats are vaccinated. It is passed in the saliva. Fighting will pass FIV. I mix all my positives negatives, too. Have for years with no passing of the virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties My cat Tigger is FeLV Positive and has been for almost 5 years. None of my others are, all vaccinated. They share litter boxes, water bowls and food! They even sleep together! So yes, they can be integrated, as long as the negatives are vaccinated, they do not fight or mate!! From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Dear all, It's been a while since I haven't posted to the list. Since my Beltza passed away, last year I am still in debt with you guys for all the support you gave me with her. I cannot remember if I told you that I run a very small cat shelter in Cuernavaca, México, where I live. Recently, we rescued two kitties which turned out to be FeLV positive (on a triple SNAP test, FeLV, FIV and HW, Idexx brand). These two cats are not siblings, they come from different litters from different parts of México City. We are aware that they need
Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties
Purrs Rubs from us to you and your beloveds on Valentine's Day. you've got us!! want to hear your thoughts please. adult spayed FIV + cat is back in my household. chronic upper respiratory. FeLeukemia negative. recommend to vaccinate her for feline leukemia? only vaccine she has ever received is rabies. why I would ever think such a thing follows: recommendations on mixing her with household cats, three of which tested positive for feline leukemia on combo test. FIV + cat is feisty. household female cat who lays down the law is FeLeukemia negative. the FIV+ cat has never shared space with the household five. she is presently sequestered. thank you. cz Thank you. cz Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:38:24 -0500 From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Just so you know that the vaccination is only 80% effective. But it's a lot better than 0% protection. - Original Message - From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Fighting doesn't matter with FeLV if the cats are vaccinated. It is passed in the saliva. Fighting will pass FIV. I mix all my positives negatives, too. Have for years with no passing of the virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties My cat Tigger is FeLV Positive and has been for almost 5 years. None of my others are, all vaccinated. They share litter boxes, water bowls and food! They even sleep together! So yes, they can be integrated, as long as the negatives are vaccinated, they do not fight or mate!! From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties Dear all, It's been a while since I haven't posted to the list. Since my Beltza passed away, last year I am still in debt with you guys for all the support you gave me with her. I cannot remember if I told you that I run a very small cat shelter in Cuernavaca, México, where I live. Recently, we rescued two kitties which turned out to be FeLV positive (on a triple SNAP test, FeLV, FIV and HW, Idexx brand). These two cats are not siblings, they come from different litters from different parts of México City. We are aware that they need to be retested in 3 months in order to be completely sure that they are FeLV positive. However, I have a lot of doubts and this is the reason of why I am posting again... We want to find nice and responsible families for these two kitties. Does these kitties need to be adopted as the only cat in the house? Can they share their lives with other cats? FeLV negative as long as they have their vaccines up-to-date? Can we give them together in adoption? Can they share their lives with other FeLV positive cats? We are also aware of the huge responsibility that is in our hands at the time of giving these two furry ones in adoption, we know that we need to find homes that are well documented, and that intend to keep them indoors. We would greatly appreciate any advice you could give us in order to ensure a great life for these two little guys. Thanks in advance, Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] you disappeared again; no postings.
GINGER? SMOKEY? quietly with all of us; purrs rubs cz___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Very Scary Testing results!
m From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:13:02 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Very Scary Testing results! Kat, Ellen should have waited longer than two days to have them tested again. Waiting 90 days to retest is usually what is suggested to be more accurate. I hope they really are all negative :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Kat Parker To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Very Scary Testing results! Very scary.. see below.. --Original Message-- From: Ellen Fawl To: rescuealliancew...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Scary FELV test results! Sent: Nov 22, 2011 11:16 PM I need to share this so it can get to the FELV Lists and whomever is following this testing debacle. We took in 5 Persians last week. We had them combo tested with the standard Snap test. All five tested positive. We had blood work done on one cat and it came back negative. We assumed the tests were done wrong so they redid them two days ago. All four remaining cats tested positive AGAIN. We had blood work taken on all four, sent it in, and all four came back negative. This is really scary stuff. Cats are killed all the time because they test positive. Had we heard about these cats being in a shelter testing positive it's not likely we could have taken them in. The vet office in Santa Cruz is going to follow up with the company, but if there is anyone else out there tracking this stuff, I want to get the information to them. Ellen Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= I'm Kat Parker. I park cats. Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur
Thank you family!!! I typed a long note yesterday and aborted it. Yes, I was not happy with being advised what med to put both Pookashay Meaow on without any explanations. The state facility is a great idea. I ordered the GNC vegetarian formula CoQ 10 on Saturday. Natalie, You are really high on it. This note is primarily about Meaow and his bloody diarrhea. I am going to digress. He tore up the back of my hand last night when he got by me through the bedroom door into the main part of the apartment. I have been leaving him out of the cage thinking that would be less stressful. He attacked an older fe leukemia + female. He has now attacked all the females of my home circle. I am on antibiotics for the 4th time due to him since the beginning of October. Yes, I remember well last summer's discussion about who controls the doors. He is back in the cage. He crunched down on her tail so she can no longer lift her tail. I intervened without protection. Sunday morning there was a 1/3 gob of clotting blood on the bathroom floor. I had put him in there while I cleaned the bedroom cages. Part of this morning's bowel movement was hard formed the remainder was formed and contained a lot more liquid. I bought some Paul Newman canned will feed that exclusviely tonight. have not tried yogurt. last night fed cooked beef liver and milk and cooked sweet potato, . . . quit the variety? He is on a waiting list for the local SPCA. I have identified him as a biter to them. he is a sweetie as I have said before who wants to claim me. I am attached to him but no way can it be. thanks for listening. ideas? I go back to the vet on Saturday. will tell her about your comments. thank you. cz Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:14:32 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur Animals (and people) with any heart problems need CoQ10 desperately! Between 30 mg and 50 mg daily! One of our cats has cardiomyopathy and renal failure…she was diagnosed 1 ½ yrs. ago. She’s on a few drugs and sub-q fluids and I also supplement her with CoQ10 – she’s doing really well. We don’t know how long she’s had the problem…she’s about 12 yrs. old now. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kat Parker Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur There are varying degrees of heart murmurs in cats. They are measures in fractions of 6. For instance, a 2 out of 6, or 2/6, is not as serious a a 4/6. We had a cat who was diagnosed with a murmur, and we did not have the money to get further testing done on him at that time because he was fresh off the street, A stray that just followed me inside one day after I had fed him. lol He looked awful, mainly because he had been living as a stray with a bad flea allergy. What a fantastic cat he proved to be! Well, all was ell for about 6 months, then he started fainting (syncope), and we were told to get the echo done. We did, at a specialist here in San Diego, with the help of some awesome MySpace friends and a chip in, and it was learned then that he had cardiomyopathy with pulmonary edema and aortic stenosis. His lungs were so full of liquid and his heart had the all too common cardiomyopathy cats get. I was told by the specialty hospital vet that it often happens that these disorders, heart murmur and cardiomyopathy, go hand in hand (but not in every case). Zoh's heart murmur was a 4/6, which is significant. They put Zoh on 3 meds which he took for the rest of his life, every day. Furosemide (lasix) for the fluid in the lungs, Atenolol, a blood pressure med, and one more bp mes, I cannot remember the name of, but he got better. I was told cats with cardiomyopathy rarely live long, and Zoh lived 2 more years till he succumbed to a heart attack and died in my arms, in my room. I am hoping this info of my experience with heart murmurs might give you something to talk about to your vet. I would def ask what the meds are, what class, and why he is prescribing them, as well as get a definite diagnosis/prognosis in his professional opinion. It sounds like he did not give you enough info. And, I would say the echocardiogram is very important to get, even if it is a bit pricey and you might have to go a little distance to find a place to get it done. most vets do not have one in their office, although if your cat is breathing hard, ask for a chest xray, for starters. (Not as expensive, either. lol)Good luck. Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= I'm Kat Parker. I park cats. Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat! -- Forwarded message -- From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool
Beth Kelley, thank you. have looked at the site. now have a direction. Bless us all. cz m From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:26:22 -0600 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool Czadna, Beth is right, there is a great Yahoo group for cats with heart murmurs. The url is http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ You really do need to have an echo done by a feline cardiologist. They can usually be found at the ag college in your state. Now, as far as the heart meds interacting with the leukemia meds, I don't know - you might have to have both vets talk. Anyway, that group was immensely helpful to me when my MIssy was diagnosed with a heart murmur. Good luck, Kelley and Missy On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Heart murmurs can get worse with time. They might not require meds at first but may later. Usually they have you go for an echocardiogram. My cat was on 5 pills per day. I believe there is a Yahoo group for cats with this condition. They may be more helpful than this list. Beth czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool
There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] retest of Hope; Albon?
Hope, adult spayed female, tested negative on in-office 3-way test yesterday. She had been slightly positive for fe leukemia on 7.23. You had advised retest at 3 months. I vaccinated her twice for fe leukemia in the weeks following her slightly positive test for fe leukemia anyway. Are we done? I am ecstatic. She is ever so much healthier now than she was then. What are your comments re: telling potential rescue groups re: the slightly positive test? Her history is being rescued from death row at the county pound into foster care by me. A vet suggested I use Albon for coccidiosis on pound fosters. My experience has been that 3 kittens/1 adult out of 4 kittens/2 adults quit eating and bowel movements quit. Yesterday the vet sold me P__ tablets. comments on Albon? Thank you. cz___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Miller
Edna, may a comforting presence hold you close. Thank you for being a with-you-to-the-end ally and respectful, responsive companion to Miller, a best beloved. healing and laughter c Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:39:41 -0700 From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miller I'm so very sorry Edna..Godspeed beautiful Miller Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 9:12 PM Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave him subQ fluids and vitamins. I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment center. He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, he just hung limp in my arms. I knew then that it was time to let him go. Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over. We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in our hearts. I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, I shall hear music but none as sweet as the song with which you loved me, I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. Sleep soft, dear Miller. . . 1999-2011 Edna, Frank and the Nuisance -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] BreAnne left today
hopefully to meet ToriRose and Isaac at the Bridge. The local vet's euthanisia was really ugly. It happens. ( I thought it would be easier for her rather than riding for 45 minutes). The local vet was no stranger to her. She had had fluids the previous 3 Saturdays. Our usual vet was not able to give her as much fluids Saturday because of her breathing. I came home and let her out and she disappeared into the woods, coming back when it got dark. I put her on the patio to rest Sunday morning. She lay there awhile and left and again returned in the darkness as I trusted she would though I began calling her in midafternoon. Mama (no relation to her) washed her last night. Physically, it was time. You had counseled me that I would know. Some of you know a rough translation of a Rumi poem Whoever brought me to the tavern will have to take me home. BreAnne was an alpha female - - just over 2 years old. Her playmate ToriRose left in February 2010. Isaac left in February 2011. She got really thin last fall and then rebounded. You helped me with her this spring when she quit eating and then decided to eat only Fancy Feast beef. She rebounded in July. will leave it there. Remaining positives are Mama and Luscious and Shallie Jean and Hope. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
update: please review lower string. BreAnne had been eating a breakfast and supper of Fancy Feast Beef pretty much exclusively since the May email below She had gained weight - -was still hiding out but present in her life. For the last several weeks she has been laying exclusively on her side and meowing when I would pick her up to move her - - chest contact. approximately 8.16 seemed like had something intermittently caught in her throat. took her to local vet on 8.20 since more highly trusted 30 miles and 60 miles away vets were not available. he gave us _ for hairball and albon. Monday she started to vomit up food immediately after eating. Since Monday she eats, she vomits, I feed, . . . She is increasingly bringing up frothy phlegm. she makes a sound in her mouth (epiglottis?). I have been orally hydrating her. She definitely has an appetite. know definitely not passing stool yesterday/doubtful urinated. gave her food this morning, vomit, more food (pate), vomit, nutri-cal, vomit, more nutrical, vomit, a couple table spoons of homemade chicken broth with vitamins, vomited up stringing clear phlegm. vet only says feline leukemia. Monday night after the feeding and vomiting episode she was back up on her chest and the noise in her throat had subsided. just as it did this morning. I told vet I wanted to try a different antibiotic before doing a film. ampicillin and baytril. she does not seem to be suffering and is active with her tail up. we trust you more than any vet we have access to. please. comments. your experiences? yes, I am willing to let her go very soon. thank you. From: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; landis.mcen...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 20:42:06 + Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne took BreAnne to vet yesterday. chem screen all within normal limits. on CBC: lymphocytes were high. vet said she definitely has leukemia. WBC were 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5 - - all within normal range. platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he said her hydration was good. amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out of it. he said she had a lot of poop inside. sent me home with an enema. his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind her knees. and I know often the growths cannot be felt. you encouraged me to hang with her. continuing the supplements. she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or doesn't eat at all. will eat in privacy but very, very particular. took the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days. she ran up a tree Friday morning. please hang with us. counsel? Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was doing it for her benefit. If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX
waiting and hoping for good news Kelley cz From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:47:00 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX I can't even get anyone to hold on to a healthy kitten temporarily - all my favors are called in long ago, and I've even having problems placing barn cats. . We could start treatment, but this lady gets more attached to this cat by the day and it really is not fair to her (or the cat) to put him through treatment and then have him PTS. We have an FELV sanctuary, but unfortunately they only take in cats when there is money to be made off them. We did ship a cat to Best Friends once, but they do not always have room either. Like I said, this list has always been my go-to resource for FELV cats and I have found placement for every single one in the past. It is possible he has a false positive, but as he is anemic and sick, I'm leaning towards true +. Unfortunately as I said there is no one to hold him for 6 weeks and if we put him back outside he will be dead in 6 weeks. On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Kelley, do you have any personal friends whom you might call on for a big favor? Are there any FeLV groups that could be called on, not necessarily in Austin, but in the area? It’s such a shame, because this cat may just have had a false positive….. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX There are many, many rescue groups around Austin, but none who will take an FELV+ cat. I have always used this list for placement in the past and always gotten lucky.:) On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Aren’t there any rescue groups around Austin area? No kind person to temporarily foster this poor cat? I’m keeping my fingers crossed – good luck! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX That's why I'm here begging...I have bought him til Monday and this whole thing is really tearing up the feeder. She cries every time she goes to the vet. If worst comes to worst I will go with her Monday to have him pts. Lets not make me have to do that! On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Can’t someone foster the cat – all they would need is some extra space in a garage, basement, bathroom….until a home could be found! Surely, there must be someone…… From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:32 PM To: felvtalk Cc: teeja...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX Hey folks, got an emergency with a possible FELV+ cat in Austin, Texas. He's had one snap test (and that's with the felv/fiv/heartworm test, which we know there are a lot of false +s with). There is no one to hold him for a confirmatory IFA. Someone wrote me asking for help, this is her description of him: He is slated to be euthanized at 5pm today. This boy is very affectionate, loving to be held, petted, scratched, etc. He was even purring while being petted at the counter at the vet's office with all the strange scents and animal noises going on! He's pretty sick at the moment. Vet says he's extremely anemic. That's why he hasn't been eating much. And the heat has exacerbated the problem since he's been an outdoor cat. Vet also says the condition is treatable, but the treatment makes him very infectious. So what he needs is an indoor home either in a one-cat household or in a house where all the cats are feline leukemia positive. It's breaking my heart because he's such a sweetie. I'm hoping to find someone who can provide a home for this baby so he won't have to be euthanized. I've asked for pics etc I also asked for an extra day which is hopefully being negotiated. I know someone on this list has room for a wonderful survivor of this horrible Texas heat and drought. I've gotten some wonderful kitties placed as a result of this list (just ask their moms) so am hoping we can pull a rabbit out of a hat one more time! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX
KELLEY, WE ARE WITH YOU and this SWEETIE!! all around you - - many people and felines deep in all dimensions. supporting you. there is a way. some of us are in the same situation at this moment; most of us have been cz From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:47:00 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX I can't even get anyone to hold on to a healthy kitten temporarily - all my favors are called in long ago, and I've even having problems placing barn cats. . We could start treatment, but this lady gets more attached to this cat by the day and it really is not fair to her (or the cat) to put him through treatment and then have him PTS. We have an FELV sanctuary, but unfortunately they only take in cats when there is money to be made off them. We did ship a cat to Best Friends once, but they do not always have room either. Like I said, this list has always been my go-to resource for FELV cats and I have found placement for every single one in the past. It is possible he has a false positive, but as he is anemic and sick, I'm leaning towards true +. Unfortunately as I said there is no one to hold him for 6 weeks and if we put him back outside he will be dead in 6 weeks. On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Kelley, do you have any personal friends whom you might call on for a big favor? Are there any FeLV groups that could be called on, not necessarily in Austin, but in the area? It’s such a shame, because this cat may just have had a false positive….. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX There are many, many rescue groups around Austin, but none who will take an FELV+ cat. I have always used this list for placement in the past and always gotten lucky.:) On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Aren’t there any rescue groups around Austin area? No kind person to temporarily foster this poor cat? I’m keeping my fingers crossed – good luck! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX That's why I'm here begging...I have bought him til Monday and this whole thing is really tearing up the feeder. She cries every time she goes to the vet. If worst comes to worst I will go with her Monday to have him pts. Lets not make me have to do that! On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Can’t someone foster the cat – all they would need is some extra space in a garage, basement, bathroom….until a home could be found! Surely, there must be someone…… From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:32 PM To: felvtalk Cc: teeja...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX Hey folks, got an emergency with a possible FELV+ cat in Austin, Texas. He's had one snap test (and that's with the felv/fiv/heartworm test, which we know there are a lot of false +s with). There is no one to hold him for a confirmatory IFA. Someone wrote me asking for help, this is her description of him: He is slated to be euthanized at 5pm today. This boy is very affectionate, loving to be held, petted, scratched, etc. He was even purring while being petted at the counter at the vet's office with all the strange scents and animal noises going on! He's pretty sick at the moment. Vet says he's extremely anemic. That's why he hasn't been eating much. And the heat has exacerbated the problem since he's been an outdoor cat. Vet also says the condition is treatable, but the treatment makes him very infectious. So what he needs is an indoor home either in a one-cat household or in a house where all the cats are feline leukemia positive. It's breaking my heart because he's such a sweetie. I'm hoping to find someone who can provide a home for this baby so he won't have to be euthanized. I've asked for pics etc I also asked for an extra day which is hopefully being negotiated. I know someone on this list has room for a wonderful survivor of this horrible Texas heat and drought. I've gotten some wonderful kitties placed as a result of this list (just ask their moms) so am hoping we can pull a rabbit out of a hat one more time! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines
[Felvtalk] Hope, adult female testing faintly + on SNAP Sat, 7.23 AND Schmitzi, 10-week-old kitten
what is done is done and don't ask me why or how. it is. don't ask me why AC didn't identify a sick-appearing cat am fostering these two from gassing-daily county pound since 7.16. suspected Hope had feline leukemia when I picked her up - - THIN and HOT. She and Schmitzi were housed side by side i.e. nose to nose for a week. spending my $. both have diarrhea. vet found them both negative for fecal parasites. gave Schmitzi strongid, gave me albon to give her and vaccinated her for feline leukemia, panleukopenia, herpes and calcivirus. next step is to do an IFA on Hope? interval? HOPE is not suffering. inactive. poor appetite. very, very sweet. if I tell AC chief she tested + I believe he will demand and gas her. lethal injection is supposed to be used for sick animals. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? both FIV negative. something going on in Hope's chest. periodic. not exactly like a sneeze or cough. vet did give azithromycin capsules any comments, other than the obvious - - this woman has no/poor judgment - - will be appreciated. thank you. c ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
I too want to understand. what has become of the Siamese for whom a rescue was being urgently asked? It has been another over the top day - - a whimpering puppy left too long in a hot car (2 windows down 3) at Wal-Mart. store made announcement over PA. no one came. called 911. we prayed hard and long arms were able to pull the puppy out. shorter arms took the puppy inside for water. owners (2 adult men and 1 adult woman) said they ignored the annoucment about it because they were standing in line. long arms asked if they wanted to speak with Animal Control. no. owners drove away. Animal Control has puppy. hope he makes it. m From: sharon.annfa...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:29:10 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood? Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. Thank you, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
BreAnne is eating exclusively Fancy Feast Beef. Last night she put away almost 6 ounces. She ate a boiled chicken neck but would not touch the rich giblet broth I feed her in isolation with patience. Thank you for the idea of putting things on her nose for her to lick off. quietly. with gratitude BreAnne, Scrumptious, Luscious, Mama, Pookashay, Harold, Shallie Marie, James, Henry and Yamuna plus the ferals Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 23:13:03 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne I also found out that they do not like warmed over foods. They sat in the bowls all day and I ended up throwing them out. Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote: My cats LOVE baked chicken and grilled steak (medium rare) - but only when it is freshly cooked. They don't like reheated food. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, POTT, BEVERLY p...@mailbox.sc.edu wrote: Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into the empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up. -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so it smells good and they come running. I only give each one about 1 teaspoon because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat. They will come back later and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast. On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote: THANK YOU. we are not alone. really, really appreciate your ideas and presence yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken cornstarch). warmed a bit in microwave. not interested. this morning nosed it around and left. I keep picking her up and bringing her back or taking the dish to her. did eat Fancy Feast beef well this a.m. routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes but not since all this came down. had thought about fish but haven't tried that since had read that shouldn't . soupy. makes much much sense. hair ball gel. thank you. forward together. thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day. they send you love. m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
THANK YOU. we are not alone. really, really appreciate your ideas and presence yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken cornstarch). warmed a bit in microwave. not interested. this morning nosed it around and left. I keep picking her up and bringing her back or taking the dish to her. did eat Fancy Feast beef well this a.m. routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes but not since all this came down. had thought about fish but haven't tried that since had read that shouldn't . soupy. makes much much sense. hair ball gel. thank you. forward together. thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day. they send you love. m Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:37:38 -0700 From: ma...@bemikitties.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne This was suggested to get her to eat, as for fiber you could add a little peas or squash baby food to it, my kitties preferred the peas, not too much or you will take the meat flavor away. Maybe a 1/4 jar of peas to a jar of meat. On 5/8/2011 2:33 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote: And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber 2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch, no onion in them. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
took BreAnne to vet yesterday. chem screen all within normal limits. on CBC: lymphocytes were high. vet said she definitely has leukemia. WBC were 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5 - - all within normal range. platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he said her hydration was good. amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out of it. he said she had a lot of poop inside. sent me home with an enema. his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind her knees. and I know often the growths cannot be felt. you encouraged me to hang with her. continuing the supplements. she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or doesn't eat at all. will eat in privacy but very, very particular. took the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days. she ran up a tree Friday morning. please hang with us. counsel? Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was doing it for her benefit. If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since she is negative). I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 months ago but came back from it naturally. will leave it there. any comments will be appreciated czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
Blind Cat Rescue and Sanctuary in St. Pauls, NC m From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:33:02 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
THANK YOU for your gentle presence and generous offering of soul and heart food. We hear and feel. Blessed Be. us m From: maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:48:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne You will know when it is time. Listen to her and listen to your heart. Open it and ask her to talk to youshe will. On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:37 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: BreAnne, I am sorry, this time must be hard on you. My only advice is that only you can know when she is ready to go. The signs you have listed, to me sound like she is getting close but you know her now and how she was. If she does not seem to be suffering you can give her time and see if she pulls out of this again. She could very well be grieving, it is so hard to know. I wish it were as easy as asking them, but it isn't. Go with your heart, you will make the right decision. Tanya --- On Mon, 4/25/11, czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 5:35 PM BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since she is negative). I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 months ago but came back from it naturally. will leave it there. any comments will be appreciated czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since she is negative). I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 months ago but came back from it naturally. will leave it there. any comments will be appreciated czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey
colostrum?are you meaning powdered milk replacer which is reconstituted for baby calves? comes in a 40 pound bag? thank you. czadna m From: maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:40:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey Have you tried colostrum? I'm a big believer in it...powder, mixes into soft food, buy at the feed/livestock stores. On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Mary Lou wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Some of us are just denser than gold. Five of 7 tested positive for FeLV in March 2010 on in-house test. Issac, a positive, crashed in February. Vet had said to retest in a year. Do we now do the IFA or ELISA on everyone? Vet had vaccinated and given boosters to everyone at that time. We have switched from that vet. Today vet said should do in-office test on positives. Earlier this week some of you had kindly commented re: poisoning possibilities for changes in pupils of unclaimed cats who dine at restaurants. This vet said Henry's pupils were result of calcivirus or herpes virus post stress of neutering in September. I have known him since July 2010. He has never had runny eyes or pussy eyes or ocular discharge or respiratory symptoms. There is a word for people unknown to each other who work on a project together for a Supreme Power. You truly keep me on the planet. Blessed Be czadna m Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Rosie Lola are safely home - - Bless you - - may others be so gracious to us - - cat's eyes
in sights? The four t-n-r ferals at Tractor Supply all have weird pupils. I can pet 3 of the four. I picked up Henry and brought him home Sunday night because he had an area under his eye that has not healed over several months. It looks like a puncture wound. The three original cat's eyes all seemed perfect when I started feeding them - - about 2 years ago. Henry was trapped last September at a close by restaurant and relocated himself. His pupils were perfect then. There are several restaurants in the area so they spend time eating there probably - - deep fried fish. Tractor Supply puts out dry food. I feed a can and a half of Evo at night. Henry's eyes are way too dilated. There is no blink reflex in one of them and a slight one in the other. We are going to the vet on Saturday. web sites talk about taurine deficiency. The mama's pupils seem constricted. comments? czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Airline Health Certificate
IT DEPENDS ON THE AIRLINE re: certificate. Example: United requires certificate. Delta does not. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Isaac
Isaac would have been 3 years young on 4.14. He tested positive along with 4 others of my inner circle of seven on 3.1.2010. I did not test further but put efforts into food and supplements. Isaac was big (not fat) black, neutered and active and appeared healthy and aggravated Scrumptious assertively. This group lived an indoor-outdoor life in the rural Carolina Piedmont. Tuesday morning he did not eat. His breath was horrendous. He liked to eat - - I used to joke with him that he and I both needed to spend time on the treadmill. That night he was not there nor on Wednesday nor Thursday morning though I searched and called. Thursday night he answered. He could not move and his pupils were dilated and fixed. He did not look as if he had been attacked by dogs or coyotes. I took him the 14 miles home and hydrated him orally during the night. He got up to walk several times during the late night morning but would walk 3 steps and wobble and fall down; he would cry out while sleeping with me or when I moved him but I did not know what the matter was. Conscious but not responsive to me. (the crying out walking with falling down reminiscent of Torie Rose - - in her last earthly night. She was the first and original of this inner circle of 8 who was euthanized 2.28.2010). I made an appointment with a vet for Friday. He gave fluids - - thought Isaac's teeth and forehead spoke of liver failure, said his lungs were clear and heart sounded good though a little fast. The plan was to do fluids over the weekend and reassess early in the week. Vet said could be leukemia. could be poison. didn't know. I unintentionally killed him Friday night and will say no more about that. That is a heavy load. To have him suddenly in major distress was unimaginable. He was only a nanometer beyond Scrumptious in closeness to me. He and Shallie Marie appeared to be the healthiest. This is the last thing I would have expected. Thank you for hearing my story. any wisdom or insights will be appreciated. Blessings megan and Scrumptious and Luscious and Mama and Pookashay and Shallie Marie and Breanne; ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Leona Jean Yahmuna
Leona Jean is the FIV female who came to my patio on Thanksgiving Day. I have written of her before and was graciously advised to check out the FIV group. Her upper respiratory symptoms are back - - the worst since she presented. Leona Jean is now having a little goop in the corners of her eyes and the mucous is beginning to string. She has been on about four different antibiotics. The vet said on the last visit that her lungs sounded clear. Does that mean nose sinuses are where the infection is? We just finished the 200 mg azithromycin the vet put her on last time. Leona Jean's respiratory symptoms diminish only somewhat but really don't even come close to clearing. The vet had advised to use the azithromycin daily and then on alternate days. Humidity and hydrating with juice don't seem to help like they did before. She won't drink homemade chicken broth either. comments? I wouldn't fight at all if someone knew of a superb FIV home for her. My own local inquires have come up empty. She is sweet, sleeps with me, maybe has a megacolon. We are in the Piedmont of NC. Thank you. Megan which brings the third comment: dealing with personal exhaustion; finding a balance; $ issues. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Pookashay and cough
Our expendable dollars were spent in euthanizing a young sweetie in February and SNAP tests for 7 cats on March 1. Five cats tested positive. We have not done any blood work since my pockets are empty. I watch nose and gum color. The vet saw Pookashay in May. I had made an appointment to have him euthanized because his breathing was so rough. He was better on the appointment day. The vet heard a murmur. She suggested a possible cause was anemia. I started him on Aunt Jeni's fish oil after reading a post here . He has developed a cough in the last several weeks. We live in the low land of the Carolina Piedmont - - lots of human allergies and sinusitis. The cats are outside in a segregated country area and inside at night (not good air inside either). I took Pookashay back to the vet earlier this month. The vet said she did not hear fluid in his lungs. She did not think it a productive cough. She suggested children's benadryl prn. When questioned, she said she did not hear a murmur. I feed Evo supplementing with a bit of raw beef liver, raw beef heart, Uber Greens, Aunt Jeni's, lysine and Dr. Belfield's Mega C/Welch's mango juice and sometimes PetTinic I quit the acyclovir after 6 months because it didn't seem to be making any difference. A different vet had recommended that. Some of the cats surely supplement their diet from other sources. Pookashay wants to stay inside often which has not been like him. He lost his front teeth last winter before I knew what was going on. The vet didn't say anything about his teeth or gingivitis. Any comments would be appreciated. Forgive me for going on and on. Ours posts are often hard to read through my tears. You certainly make the road less lonely. we are honored to know you and by the furry souls. Thanks. health laughter; purrs rubs m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Pfizer Pet-Tinic
vet told me that it had been discontinued. what do you recommend instead? m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] try American Veterinary Chiropractic Association
to find a qualified individual to do chiropractic on Wolfie czadna, D.C. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Just checking in...Murphy and Rosie
BLESS YOU BEYOND THE BEYOND. You have been on my heart continually since reading your story. I honestly believe there are people within your community who will write the checks for your beloveds and you. quietly meganskye m Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:45:00 -0700 From: aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Just checking in...Murphy and Rosie I've been off boards for a bit-This whole FeLV thing is so sad-reading all the new people's posts desperately seeking information and hope (like me a year and a half ago). Then reading as our sweet little babies lose their battle with this dreaded disease-Like the 4 sibling brothers I had. We have been lucky so far with Murphy and Rosie since starting the Imulan treatments last September (before they had any symptoms). Their bloodwork has been pretty good-both have HCT in the 35-39 range. We got behind in the blood testing and have an appt today because Murphy has developed a sneeze that appears to be allergies, but I cannot take a chance-so we will have them both checked and I may get brave and order another FeLV test-This is so hard financially-in a year and a half-we had the 6 kitties to the vets on numerous occasions-tried one transfusion that didn't help ($1500 for that alone) we are damned if we do and damned if we don't-it rips your heart out-we tried to treat this disease and have spent our savings - got behind and are fighting foreclosure...(over 7500 in vet bills in the past 1 1/2 yrs on the 6 kitties-and that's not the old dogs or horses) it's a disease of the heart-we were so heartbroken and desperate to save this feral litter-we loved them so muchand we weren't even cat people until we rescued them. Their sweet little faces and kitten antics...how could you resist?? Anyway-the last 2 appear to be well so far and we were at 8 weeks apart with the injections-have one dose each left and I've postponed giving it to stretch the dollars. So we are headed to our vet for check ups and blood work today. I just want to say bless you to all of you-this is a battle not won too often, but your support and kind words have helped so many of us! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Possible therapy for felv
Hello This is my first post. 5 of 7 of my inner circle tested positive for feline leukemia using the more reliable test (per the vet). She advised 1 ml of acylovir twice a week plus 1 ml Hy-Vite drops twice a week. The following caught my attention: I know that they put cats on the HIV/AIDS cocktails of AZT and other drugs they use in humans; and continue to insist that the research that most researchers have come to accept is wrong. Feline leukmeia is totally new water. An outside feral was highly lethargic progressing into distress for reasons unknown. He tested positive. He had a two week access to a rescue kitten which later became part of my inner circle. I noticed increasing in size lymph nodes in her neck in early February. She tested positive. Her decline was precipitous. On March 1, I tested the rest of the inner circle, all adults but one of similar age to ToriRose, deceased - - approx 10 months now. Please comment on acyclovir. I am doing Evo for half of meals supplemented with vitamin C, DHA/EPA, raw egg yolk and raw liver plus the acyclovir and Hy-Vite drops. THANK YOU. m _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
