Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-06-02 Thread dlgegg
I agree.  Annie showed signs and tested positive only when she lost her person 
to cancer and there were so many chages in her life.  Now, She is becoming 
clamer, not looking over her back all the time and even shares my bed with the 
others.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> That stress thing I believe is a big factor. Tigger, who apparently had FeLV 
> since he was a kitten, was living a healthy life as an indoor-only cat, and 
> the only other cat I had indoors with him was an old-lady cat named Peekers. 
> They got along great, slept together, ate together, etc. I was unaware that 
> Tigger had FeLV since I had him tested when I found him. Then in November of 
> 2014 I brought in a stray female who was well behaved at first, but then 
> became jealous of the attention I gave Tigger and she would run up behind him 
> and bite him hard. Tigger was stressed out about it and was always looking 
> over his shoulder, wondering when she would bite him next. I believe that is 
> what caused his last FeLV crisis which began in September of 2015. 
> 
>  
> 
> I have since adopted a one year old female named Topaz, and she came from a 
> shelter through a pet store. They told me she is spayed, wormed and has had 
> all her shots. I asked about testing/vaccinating for FeLV, and they said 
> “FeLV is a crapshoot”. They said the testing is not reliable and the 
> vaccination is often not effective. My vet told me this before that. But the 
> manager of the pet store also said once you vaccinate a cat for FeLV, they 
> will always test positive….does anyone know if this is true or not?
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Amani Oakley
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:22 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups
> 
>  
> 
> That is very good to know. My experience with FIV has not been good, except 
> for the last little girl I took from the feral colony and treated with 
> Winstrol. She seems fine (great coat now, good size, very playful, etc.) but 
> she still has sounds like she has water on her lungs, though the lungs are 
> clear on xray – I presume the fluid accumulation is still around the lungs.
> 
>  
> 
> I am glad to hear that FIV cats can live a long time.
> 
>  
> 
> Amani
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
> Sent: May-25-16 11:57 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups
> 
>  
> 
> Hi, FIV is not the horrid disease that some people think it is. I'm glad the 
> shelter allowed you to adopt these cats. The main thing is that they live 
> stress-free and have good food, clean water and plenty of love. I did FIV 
> rescue for many years. Most of the cats lived to be 14 to  16 years old 
> without any major illness and passed from kidney failure and old age. The 
> best FIV group is the FIV2 group, if it still exists. I still have one FIV+ 
> cat who was slated for death at the Humane Society 12 years ago but the 
> adoption coordinator knew I was aware that these cats could live long, 
> healthy lives so she called me and we traded one of my adoptable foster cats 
> for the FIV cat she had at the shelter. As long as your cats are neutered or 
> spayed they won't pass on the disease, even if they live with cats that do 
> not have it. FIV is passed on from deep bites during mating and fighting 
> during mating so you really do not have to keep fixed cats separate. Good 
> luck with your two fur kids.
> 
> On May 24, 2016 4:58 PM, Christine Dundas <christinedun...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:christinedun...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> Check Yahoo groups.  They have groups for FIV.
> 
> On May 24, 2016 3:26 PM, "barbe berbes" <berbe...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:berbe...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of a 
> support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one healthy 
> as Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group doesn't 
> address their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or advice!!!
> 
> On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith" <rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net 
> <mailto:rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:
> 
> I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vets
> 
> Dr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinic
> 
> and Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet Clinic
> 
> Both are nice vets--I like them both
> 
> I use Dr Meier for foster car

Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-06-01 Thread Ardy Robertson
Thanks Lorrie.

Ardy


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Lorrie
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 8:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups


It is the vaccination for FIV, not FelV, that causes a cat to test positive
for FIV, and you are certainly right about the tests for FelV being a
crapshoot.

Lorrie


On 05-31, Ardy Robertson wrote:
>That stress thing I believe is a big factor. Tigger, who apparently had
>FeLV since he was a kitten, was living a healthy life as an indoor-only
>cat, and the only other cat I had indoors with him was an old-lady cat
>named Peekers. They got along great, slept together, ate together, etc.
>I was unaware that Tigger had FeLV since I had him tested when I found
>him. Then in November of 2014 I brought in a stray female who was well
>behaved at first, but then became jealous of the attention I gave
>Tigger and she would run up behind him and bite him hard. Tigger was
>stressed out about it and was always looking over his shoulder,
>wondering when she would bite him next. I believe that is what caused
>his last FeLV crisis which began in September of 2015.
> 
> 
>I have since adopted a one year old female named Topaz, and she came
>from a shelter through a pet store. They told me she is spayed, wormed
>and has had all her shots. I asked about testing/vaccinating for FeLV,
>and they said "FeLV is a crapshoot". They said the testing is not
>reliable and the vaccination is often not effective. My vet told me
>this before that. But the manager of the pet store also said once you
>vaccinate a cat for FeLV, they will always test positivedoes anyone
>know if this is true or not?
> 
> 
>Thank you!!
> 
>Ardy

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-06-01 Thread Lorrie

It is the vaccination for FIV, not FelV, that causes a cat to test
positive for FIV, and you are certainly right about the tests for
FelV being a crapshoot.

Lorrie


On 05-31, Ardy Robertson wrote:
>That stress thing I believe is a big factor. Tigger, who apparently had
>FeLV since he was a kitten, was living a healthy life as an indoor-only
>cat, and the only other cat I had indoors with him was an old-lady cat
>named Peekers. They got along great, slept together, ate together, etc.
>I was unaware that Tigger had FeLV since I had him tested when I found
>him. Then in November of 2014 I brought in a stray female who was well
>behaved at first, but then became jealous of the attention I gave
>Tigger and she would run up behind him and bite him hard. Tigger was
>stressed out about it and was always looking over his shoulder,
>wondering when she would bite him next. I believe that is what caused
>his last FeLV crisis which began in September of 2015.
> 
> 
>I have since adopted a one year old female named Topaz, and she came
>from a shelter through a pet store. They told me she is spayed, wormed
>and has had all her shots. I asked about testing/vaccinating for FeLV,
>and they said "FeLV is a crapshoot". They said the testing is not
>reliable and the vaccination is often not effective. My vet told me
>this before that. But the manager of the pet store also said once you
>vaccinate a cat for FeLV, they will always test positivedoes anyone
>know if this is true or not?
> 
> 
>Thank you!!
> 
>Ardy

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-05-31 Thread Ardy Robertson
That stress thing I believe is a big factor. Tigger, who apparently had FeLV 
since he was a kitten, was living a healthy life as an indoor-only cat, and the 
only other cat I had indoors with him was an old-lady cat named Peekers. They 
got along great, slept together, ate together, etc. I was unaware that Tigger 
had FeLV since I had him tested when I found him. Then in November of 2014 I 
brought in a stray female who was well behaved at first, but then became 
jealous of the attention I gave Tigger and she would run up behind him and bite 
him hard. Tigger was stressed out about it and was always looking over his 
shoulder, wondering when she would bite him next. I believe that is what caused 
his last FeLV crisis which began in September of 2015. 

 

I have since adopted a one year old female named Topaz, and she came from a 
shelter through a pet store. They told me she is spayed, wormed and has had all 
her shots. I asked about testing/vaccinating for FeLV, and they said “FeLV is a 
crapshoot”. They said the testing is not reliable and the vaccination is often 
not effective. My vet told me this before that. But the manager of the pet 
store also said once you vaccinate a cat for FeLV, they will always test 
positive….does anyone know if this is true or not?

 

Thank you!!

Ardy

 

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

 

That is very good to know. My experience with FIV has not been good, except for 
the last little girl I took from the feral colony and treated with Winstrol. 
She seems fine (great coat now, good size, very playful, etc.) but she still 
has sounds like she has water on her lungs, though the lungs are clear on xray 
– I presume the fluid accumulation is still around the lungs.

 

I am glad to hear that FIV cats can live a long time.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Sent: May-25-16 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

 

Hi, FIV is not the horrid disease that some people think it is. I'm glad the 
shelter allowed you to adopt these cats. The main thing is that they live 
stress-free and have good food, clean water and plenty of love. I did FIV 
rescue for many years. Most of the cats lived to be 14 to  16 years old without 
any major illness and passed from kidney failure and old age. The best FIV 
group is the FIV2 group, if it still exists. I still have one FIV+ cat who was 
slated for death at the Humane Society 12 years ago but the adoption 
coordinator knew I was aware that these cats could live long, healthy lives so 
she called me and we traded one of my adoptable foster cats for the FIV cat she 
had at the shelter. As long as your cats are neutered or spayed they won't pass 
on the disease, even if they live with cats that do not have it. FIV is passed 
on from deep bites during mating and fighting during mating so you really do 
not have to keep fixed cats separate. Good luck with your two fur kids.

On May 24, 2016 4:58 PM, Christine Dundas <christinedun...@gmail.com 
<mailto:christinedun...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Check Yahoo groups.  They have groups for FIV.

On May 24, 2016 3:26 PM, "barbe berbes" <berbe...@gmail.com 
<mailto:berbe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of a 
support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one healthy as 
Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group doesn't address 
their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or advice!!!

On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith" <rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net 
<mailto:rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vets

Dr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinic

and Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet Clinic

Both are nice vets--I like them both

I use Dr Meier for foster care

and I have been to Dr Ali for several of my own very sick animals. Both are 
sweet vets.

 

 

  _  

From: swacht <swacht1...@comcast.net <mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net> >
To: felineres...@frontier.com <mailto:felineres...@frontier.com> ; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>  
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:33 PM


Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol


There was someone who lives in the Milwaukee, WI area looking for a Holistic 
Vet - I have nieces who live in Madison, WI who found one there
Full Circle Veterinary
Holistic Veterinary Care

I don't remember who and there are so many posts to go through

Sandy W

-Original Message- 
From: Lorrie
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukem

Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-05-25 Thread Amani Oakley
That is very good to know. My experience with FIV has not been good, except for 
the last little girl I took from the feral colony and treated with Winstrol. 
She seems fine (great coat now, good size, very playful, etc.) but she still 
has sounds like she has water on her lungs, though the lungs are clear on xray 
– I presume the fluid accumulation is still around the lungs.

I am glad to hear that FIV cats can live a long time.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Sent: May-25-16 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups


Hi, FIV is not the horrid disease that some people think it is. I'm glad the 
shelter allowed you to adopt these cats. The main thing is that they live 
stress-free and have good food, clean water and plenty of love. I did FIV 
rescue for many years. Most of the cats lived to be 14 to  16 years old without 
any major illness and passed from kidney failure and old age. The best FIV 
group is the FIV2 group, if it still exists. I still have one FIV+ cat who was 
slated for death at the Humane Society 12 years ago but the adoption 
coordinator knew I was aware that these cats could live long, healthy lives so 
she called me and we traded one of my adoptable foster cats for the FIV cat she 
had at the shelter. As long as your cats are neutered or spayed they won't pass 
on the disease, even if they live with cats that do not have it. FIV is passed 
on from deep bites during mating and fighting during mating so you really do 
not have to keep fixed cats separate. Good luck with your two fur kids.
On May 24, 2016 4:58 PM, Christine Dundas 
<christinedun...@gmail.com<mailto:christinedun...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Check Yahoo groups.  They have groups for FIV.
On May 24, 2016 3:26 PM, "barbe berbes" 
<berbe...@gmail.com<mailto:berbe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of a 
support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one healthy as 
Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group doesn't address 
their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or advice!!!
On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith" 
<rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vets
Dr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinic
and Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet Clinic
Both are nice vets--I like them both
I use Dr Meier for foster care
and I have been to Dr Ali for several of my own very sick animals. Both are 
sweet vets.



From: swacht <swacht1...@comcast.net<mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net>>
To: felineres...@frontier.com<mailto:felineres...@frontier.com>; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:33 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol

There was someone who lives in the Milwaukee, WI area looking for a Holistic
Vet - I have nieces who live in Madison, WI who found one there
Full Circle Veterinary
Holistic Veterinary Care

I don't remember who and there are so many posts to go through

Sandy W

-Original Message-
From: Lorrie
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol

Thank you very much Ardy.  Now to get my vet to comply.

Lorrie
-

On 05-19, Ardy Robertson wrote:
> Hi Lorrie,
>
> I found Winstrol (Stanozolol) at a compounding pharmacy called Diamond
> Back
> Drugs in Arizona. They offered it in other forms besides liquid, I can't
> remember all of them so they might have it in pill form. I bought it in
> liquid because that was easier for me to give to Tigger and he liked the
> salmon flavor. I would let him smell the syringe before I gave it and he
> did
> not try to avoid it. The company's website is
> http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/   and their phone number is
> 866-578-4420.
>
> I found them to be very good to work with, very efficient and also caring.
> The company seems large, but they take time to talk with you individually
> also. The vet had to fill out the prescription online, or fax it to them.
> Then they would call me to verify the address, and for me to give them
> payment by credit card. I paid $42 for a 25 day supply.
>
> Hope this helps. If they do not have pill form, you might be able to find
> other sources by googling "compounding pharmacy veterinarian".
> Ardy
>
>

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-05-25 Thread Lee
Hi, FIV is not the horrid disease that some people think it is. I'm glad the shelter allowed you to adopt these cats. The main thing is that they live stress-free and have good food, clean water and plenty of love. I did FIV rescue for many years. Most of the cats lived to be 14 to  16 years old without any major illness and passed from kidney failure and old age. The best FIV group is the FIV2 group, if it still exists. I still have one FIV+ cat who was slated for death at the Humane Society 12 years ago but the adoption coordinator knew I was aware that these cats could live long, healthy lives so she called me and we traded one of my adoptable foster cats for the FIV cat she had at the shelter. As long as your cats are neutered or spayed they won't pass on the disease, even if they live with cats that do not have it. FIV is passed on from deep bites during mating and fighting during mating so you really do not have to keep fixed cats separate. Good luck with your two fur kids.
On May 24, 2016 4:58 PM, Christine Dundas  wrote:Check Yahoo groups.  They have groups for FIV.
On May 24, 2016 3:26 PM, "barbe berbes"  wrote:Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of a support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one healthy as Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group doesn't address their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or advice!!!
On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith"  wrote:I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vetsDr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinicand Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet ClinicBoth are nice vets--I like them bothI use Dr Meier for foster careand I have been to Dr Ali for several of my own very sick animals. Both are sweet vets.   From: swacht  To: felinerescue@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol   There was someone who lives in the Milwaukee, WI area looking for a Holistic Vet - I have nieces who live in Madison, WI who found one thereFull Circle VeterinaryHolistic Veterinary CareI don't remember who and there are so many posts to go throughSandy W-Original Message- From: LorrieSent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:18 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of WinstrolThank you very much Ardy.  Now to get my vet to comply.Lorrie-On 05-19, Ardy Robertson wrote:> Hi Lorrie,>> I found Winstrol (Stanozolol) at a compounding pharmacy called Diamond > Back> Drugs in Arizona. They offered it in other forms besides liquid, I can't> remember all of them so they might have it in pill form. I bought it in> liquid because that was easier for me to give to Tigger and he liked the> salmon flavor. I would let him smell the syringe before I gave it and he > did> not try to avoid it. The company's website is> http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/   and their phone number is > 866-578-4420.>> I found them to be very good to work with, very efficient and also caring.> The company seems large, but they take time to talk with you individually> also. The vet had to fill out the prescription online, or fax it to them.> Then they would call me to verify the address, and for me to give them> payment by credit card. I paid $42 for a 25 day supply.>> Hope this helps. If they do not have pill form, you might be able to find> other sources by googling "compounding pharmacy veterinarian".> Ardy>>___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___
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[Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-05-24 Thread Christine Dundas
Check Yahoo groups.  They have groups for FIV.
On May 24, 2016 3:26 PM, "barbe berbes"  wrote:

> Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of
> a support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one
> healthy as Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group
> doesn't address their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or
> advice!!!
> On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith" 
> wrote:
>
> I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vets
> Dr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinic
> and Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet Clinic
> Both are nice vets--I like them both
> I use Dr Meier for foster care
> and I have been to Dr Ali for several of my own very sick animals. Both
> are sweet vets.
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* swacht 
> *To:* felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:33 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol
>
> There was someone who lives in the Milwaukee, WI area looking for a
> Holistic
> Vet - I have nieces who live in Madison, WI who found one there
> Full Circle Veterinary
> Holistic Veterinary Care
>
> I don't remember who and there are so many posts to go through
>
> Sandy W
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lorrie
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:18 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol
>
> Thank you very much Ardy.  Now to get my vet to comply.
>
> Lorrie
> -
>
> On 05-19, Ardy Robertson wrote:
> > Hi Lorrie,
> >
> > I found Winstrol (Stanozolol) at a compounding pharmacy called Diamond
> > Back
> > Drugs in Arizona. They offered it in other forms besides liquid, I can't
> > remember all of them so they might have it in pill form. I bought it in
> > liquid because that was easier for me to give to Tigger and he liked the
> > salmon flavor. I would let him smell the syringe before I gave it and he
> > did
> > not try to avoid it. The company's website is
> > http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/   and their phone number is
> > 866-578-4420.
> >
> > I found them to be very good to work with, very efficient and also
> caring.
> > The company seems large, but they take time to talk with you individually
> > also. The vet had to fill out the prescription online, or fax it to them.
> > Then they would call me to verify the address, and for me to give them
> > payment by credit card. I paid $42 for a 25 day supply.
> >
> > Hope this helps. If they do not have pill form, you might be able to find
> > other sources by googling "compounding pharmacy veterinarian".
> > Ardy
> >
> >
>
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