Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY/thanks reply

2012-06-04 Thread dot winkler
Thank you all for all of your input and advice.  I do plan on moving the 
feeding station soon.  I had planned on it anyway this spring for other reasons 
and cleaning it good or getting a new bin altogether. Yeah, you're right - the 
cats know to stay away from the raccoons.  So, I think that they are leary to 
go in b/c they wouldn't want a close encounter with that guy!  The feed station 
is behind some boards in a lean-to structure.  I haven't seen the big guy for 
about 3 weeks now though so maybe it moved on along.

What I'd like to do is ask the owner of the property (it's on land with a 
nearby restaraunt) if my husband can build a larger type shed on the property 
with shelves and hang-out areas for the cats - insulate it.  So that they have 
a place that is better to go in the winter months and all can hang out there - 
like a mini-barn.  Of course, my husband is balking at that idea already, not 
to mention the cost!  He is a carpenter and could build anything.  And i 
don't know how the owner of the property would like it either since he is not 
that thrilled at the whole thing anyway - just tolerating me and the cats.  But 
it would look a lot better than all the little houses and lean-to's we 
constructed for them around the grounds.  



 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY
 

It probably IS the raccoon.  They took one look and said to themselves, Don't 
mess with that guy!!  You might want to spray something like At Ease on the 
new feeder but don't get it into the food.  Just give the outside walls of the 
bin a little spritz.  I spray At Ease in my cat carriers an hour or so before I 
put a cat in to go to the vet.  It really makes a difference.  I don't think 
it's the skunks. Mostly, cats don't mind that odor because they are too 
intelligent and polite to get themselves sprayed.  It's dogs who will bounce up 
to a skunk, barking like crazy and end up having to take a bath in tomato 
juice. :-)




 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY
 

Hi.  I was the one who wrote that e-mail.  I just read your response.  I'm 
telling you that the cats are afraid to go in there now - into the bin with the 
dry food now that I have started refilling it.  They are not even eating it.  
It is fresh food  as i just refilled it.  I tried to coax one of the cats to go 
in and he backed off.  They are skittish lately.  Because that raccoon was so 
large and not afraid of anything - it was running around in the area where 
their little houses were and coming right up to their meat while they were 
eating in daytime hours.  Perhaps it is the skunk smell that also is around but 
that never seemed to bother them in the past.  ???Dotty


 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 

I can't find the email from someone who thinks that the cats are avoiding the 
food because the feeding dish/station smells from raccoon.  This is definitely 
NOT the cause of the cats avoiding the food.  It's probably the food.  It may 
be stale or they are just tired of the flavor.  When I was feeding colonies, 
the cats and raccoons were eating side by side, except when a raccoon got too 
greedy and chased the cats away.  But the cats always returned to what was left 
of the food and finished it off.


From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION


Door on a timer?  However, my bet is on the coons.


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats/re[ply

2012-06-03 Thread dot winkler
Hi Marta - I can't keep all the 7 stray cats though I would love to take them 
all home with me! Because they are so cute and have names, too.Maybe if I had a 
large farm!  I have three other cats already at home and one is FIV pos and the 
other FELV pos.  The third is healthy.  I don't think 10 cats in my small cape 
cod house would be good anyways. The two cats i have at home are indoor/outdoor 
cats so I can't bring the strays into my yard either. They would all fight.  I 
will have to do some research about all this as I shudder to think of another 
winter for the strays.  I have built them shelters but they are not heated!  We 
were just lucky this past winter was mild with little snow.  I shudder to think 
of an ice storm or something.  i don't know if they would all make it or not.  



 From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray 
cats
 

They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. 
 
I always pipe up when somebody says that cats sit in cages at shelter/in jail, 
etc..well that is true of kill shelters and some no-kills. And BTW not all open 
policy shelters put the cat in the cage and leave it there.
 
No-kills specially know very well that an animal can't live in a cage. I don't 
work at a shelter but am close friends with a nk and several HS's. Cats don't 
do well in cages for an extended period of time. While medicating and being 
socialized, acclimated and other changes, yes, they have to be.
But it is dangerous actually to hold animals in cages b/c of stress which leads 
to disease. They know that or should know it.
Depending on room cats are taken out of the cages and let roam in rooms, 
ussualy are in for the night. At the no-kill the only cats in cages are sick 
ones or baby kittens. Even fractious cats they separate in groups in small 
rooms. For instance one year ago the nk shelter took one of my rescue cats, she 
was tame but has a very short fuse. She was in a cage during quarantine(10 
days) and that was it. Afterwards shared a room with one cat she could bear, 
doesn't like much other cats.
She'd swipe at people too so she needed an understanding owner, finally last 
week that family showed up and she was adopted.
In your situation I'd ask a  no-kill shelter, true most are full but you never 
know. Unless you wish to keep all the cats, which probably for them is the best 
alternative. Where are you at?
Marta
 
 
http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

 
I was going to suggest a ramp, but alas, the coons could also use it.  

RE:  taking them to a no kill shelter, if it is like the ones around here, they 
are not able to take on any more dogs or cats.  Everyone who has lost ajob, 
home and has to move in with relatives, brings their animals to the shelter.  
You are right, they would have to spend some time there especially if they are 
not socialized.  That takes time and that means time in cages.  I took 2 from 
P.A.L.S..  I had gone to see about 1 cat and ended up with both Lil Bit and 
Casey.  They had been in an 8 x 10 cage with about 6 or 8 other cats for over a 
year.  Lil Bit is just now moving around the house because she is so small 
(6lbs) and timid and Casey is getting used to NOT being allowed to bully 
everyone.  I just wish people would bring a short letter giving
 information about their pets so the adopter would understand why they are the 
way they are.  Often they are misunderstood and end up back at the shelter 
because people do not have the patience to try to understand them


 dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for 
 the 7 cats i feed every day.  They are all so beautiful and quite healthy 
 looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food.  At least 3 of them 
 are very friendly and the others are coming around, too.  Anyone have any 
 input about how to place these cats?  I hate to bring them to a shelter even 
 if it's no kill.  They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god 
 knows how long.  It's very hard feeding every day.  It's just me and my 
 husband.  We can
 never go away anywhere now because of it.  What are your experiences?  Dotty






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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY

2012-06-03 Thread dot winkler
Hi.  I was the one who wrote that e-mail.  I just read your response.  I'm 
telling you that the cats are afraid to go in there now - into the bin with the 
dry food now that I have started refilling it.  They are not even eating it.  
It is fresh food  as i just refilled it.  I tried to coax one of the cats to go 
in and he backed off.  They are skiddish lately.  Because that raccoon was so 
large and not afraid of anything - it was running around in the area where 
their little houses were and coming right up to their meat while they were 
eating in daytime hours.  Perhaps it is the skunk smell that also is around but 
that never seemed to bother them in the past.  ???Dotty



 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 

I can't find the email from someone who thinks that the cats are avoiding the 
food because the feeding dish/station smells from raccoon.  This is definitely 
NOT the cause of the cats avoiding the food.  It's probably the food.  It may 
be stale or they are just tired of the flavor.  When I was feeding colonies, 
the cats and raccoons were eating side by side, except when a raccoon got too 
greedy and chased the cats away.  But the cats always returned to what was left 
of the food and finished it off.


From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION


Door on a timer?  However, my bet is on the coons.

On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:37 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.  Because i would 
have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one.  One trip is to bring 
the meat to them.  If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry 
food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back 
and then another time that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over 
and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!  Thanks for 
all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the RAMP?  I was not sure I 
understood.  Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise 
a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry 
food station and then open in the morning!  L.O.L.  dotty


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY

2012-06-03 Thread MaiMaiPG

I don't doubt it.  Can you move the feeding station?
On Jun 3, 2012, at 7:50 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi.  I was the one who wrote that e-mail.  I just read your  
response.  I'm telling you that the cats are afraid to go in there  
now - into the bin with the dry food now that I have started  
refilling it.  They are not even eating it.  It is fresh food  as i  
just refilled it.  I tried to coax one of the cats to go in and he  
backed off.  They are skiddish lately.  Because that raccoon was so  
large and not afraid of anything - it was running around in the area  
where their little houses were and coming right up to their meat  
while they were eating in daytime hours.  Perhaps it is the skunk  
smell that also is around but that never seemed to bother them in  
the past.  ???Dotty


From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

I can't find the email from someone who thinks that the cats are  
avoiding the food because the feeding dish/station smells from  
raccoon.  This is definitely NOT the cause of the cats avoiding the  
food.  It's probably the food.  It may be stale or they are just  
tired of the flavor.  When I was feeding colonies, the cats and  
raccoons were eating side by side, except when a raccoon got too  
greedy and chased the cats away.  But the cats always returned to  
what was left of the food and finished it off.


From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

Door on a timer?  However, my bet is on the coons.
On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:37 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.   
Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of  
one.  One trip is to bring the meat to them.  If I did that in the  
evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to  
come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another  
time that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over and  
work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!   
Thanks for all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the  
RAMP?  I was not sure I understood.  Just thought of something -  
wouldn't it be cool if I could devise a door that would shut  
automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry food  
station and then open in the morning!  L.O.L.  dotty




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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY

2012-06-03 Thread dlgegg
My guys won't go near a raccoon, just back off and let it go its way.  Curse, a 
skunk could keep them away because of any smell left behind.  Maybe it has gone 
away enough so we can't smell it, but a cat has a better sense of smell than we 
do.
 MaiMaiPG cougarcl...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I don't doubt it.  Can you move the feeding station?
 On Jun 3, 2012, at 7:50 PM, dot winkler wrote:
 
  Hi.  I was the one who wrote that e-mail.  I just read your  
  response.  I'm telling you that the cats are afraid to go in there  
  now - into the bin with the dry food now that I have started  
  refilling it.  They are not even eating it.  It is fresh food  as i  
  just refilled it.  I tried to coax one of the cats to go in and he  
  backed off.  They are skiddish lately.  Because that raccoon was so  
  large and not afraid of anything - it was running around in the area  
  where their little houses were and coming right up to their meat  
  while they were eating in daytime hours.  Perhaps it is the skunk  
  smell that also is around but that never seemed to bother them in  
  the past.  ???Dotty
 
  From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  I can't find the email from someone who thinks that the cats are  
  avoiding the food because the feeding dish/station smells from  
  raccoon.  This is definitely NOT the cause of the cats avoiding the  
  food.  It's probably the food.  It may be stale or they are just  
  tired of the flavor.  When I was feeding colonies, the cats and  
  raccoons were eating side by side, except when a raccoon got too  
  greedy and chased the cats away.  But the cats always returned to  
  what was left of the food and finished it off.
 
  From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  Door on a timer?  However, my bet is on the coons.
  On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:37 PM, dot winkler wrote:
 
  Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.   
  Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of  
  one.  One trip is to bring the meat to them.  If I did that in the  
  evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to  
  come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another  
  time that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over and  
  work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!   
  Thanks for all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the  
  RAMP?  I was not sure I understood.  Just thought of something -  
  wouldn't it be cool if I could devise a door that would shut  
  automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry food  
  station and then open in the morning!  L.O.L.  dotty
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY

2012-06-03 Thread Lee Evans
It probably IS the raccoon.  They took one look and said to themselves, Don't 
mess with that guy!!  You might want to spray something like At Ease on the 
new feeder but don't get it into the food.  Just give the outside walls of the 
bin a little spritz.  I spray At Ease in my cat carriers an hour or so before I 
put a cat in to go to the vet.  It really makes a difference.  I don't think 
it's the skunks. Mostly, cats don't mind that odor because they are too 
intelligent and polite to get themselves sprayed.  It's dogs who will bounce up 
to a skunk, barking like crazy and end up having to take a bath in tomato 
juice. :-)




 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY
 

Hi.  I was the one who wrote that e-mail.  I just read your response.  I'm 
telling you that the cats are afraid to go in there now - into the bin with the 
dry food now that I have started refilling it.  They are not even eating it.  
It is fresh food  as i just refilled it.  I tried to coax one of the cats to go 
in and he backed off.  They are skittish lately.  Because that raccoon was so 
large and not afraid of anything - it was running around in the area where 
their little houses were and coming right up to their meat while they were 
eating in daytime hours.  Perhaps it is the skunk smell that also is around but 
that never seemed to bother them in the past.  ???Dotty


 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 

I can't find the email from someone who thinks that the cats are avoiding the 
food because the feeding dish/station smells from raccoon.  This is definitely 
NOT the cause of the cats avoiding the food.  It's probably the food.  It may 
be stale or they are just tired of the flavor.  When I was feeding colonies, 
the cats and raccoons were eating side by side, except when a raccoon got too 
greedy and chased the cats away.  But the cats always returned to what was left 
of the food and finished it off.


From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION


Door on a timer?  However, my bet is on the coons.


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-06-02 Thread Lee Evans
I can't find the email from someone who thinks that the cats are avoiding the 
food because the feeding dish/station smells from raccoon.  This is definitely 
NOT the cause of the cats avoiding the food.  It's probably the food.  It may 
be stale or they are just tired of the flavor.  When I was feeding colonies, 
the cats and raccoons were eating side by side, except when a raccoon got too 
greedy and chased the cats away.  But the cats always returned to what was left 
of the food and finished it off.




From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION


Door on a timer?  However, my bet is on the coons.

On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:37 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.  Because i would 
have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one.  One trip is to bring 
the meat to them.  If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry 
food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back 
and then another time that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over 
and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!  Thanks for 
all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the RAMP?  I was not sure I 
understood.  Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise 
a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry 
food station and then open in the morning!  L.O.L.  dotty




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[Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply

2012-06-01 Thread Natalie
Had to resend - didn't erase anything.was too large.

 

From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:32 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply

 

Raccoons always dip their food in water.and their little adorable feet may
not always be so clean..dirty water, YES!  Thankfully, I don't have to put
out water for them because the wildlife feeder with all the cat food
leftovers is right next to a stream coming from the waterfall.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:06 AM
To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply

 

Yeah, right - they definitely must be taking a bath!  How can they get the
water so dirty?  Even just one raccoon makes a mess of the water.

They are cute though.  I was tossing little bits of a banana to one once and
after the banana was gone he slowly walked up to me then bent over and
sniffed my shoe and then walked away.  I was scared he might bite me but I
was too curious about what he was going to do to move.  But, they can be a
problem too when they're tearing things up and eating the cat's food and you
feed 50 ferals a day and don't have money to feed them too.

Just read that the babies leave the home range after a certain age.  So
that's why they disappear.

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:57:27 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply
 CC: molvey...@hotmail.com
 
 I was going to say that the coons will just carry off the feeder and break
it open at their convenience. I loose a lot of suet feeders that way. My
outside water bowls are always dirty in the AM. One has to wash their food
before eating it. I think they also take a bath before eating.

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-06-01 Thread dot winkler
Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.  Because i would 
have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one.  One trip is to bring 
the meat to them.  If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry 
food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back 
and then another time that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over 
and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!  Thanks for 
all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the RAMP?  I was not sure I 
understood.  Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise 
a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry 
food station and then open in the morning!  L.O.L.  dotty



 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds 
don't get or drop.  I also get possums coming for the seed.  They both come to 
the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the 
birds.  They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just 
been weaned.  When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming 
back.  Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them?  Coons 
are smart, scheming little kids.  I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of 
a trap, so I watched all night and caught her.  She entered the trap, sucked in 
her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, 
took the food and backed out.  Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the 
trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap.  Big Momma, another 
(35lbs) kept getting in my seed can.  She would open it and let the babies in 
to eat.  Tried
 using straps from pick up.  She chewed thru them.  Brought it inside and she 
tried to turn the door handle so she could get in to it.  
Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too.  I will ask Perk 
(an old timer round here who used to hunt them)  maybe he can come up with 
something.  Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the 
cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
  
 
 Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can
 also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people
 call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that
 there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  
 
 They are and they are a royal pain.  
 
 On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:
 
  
 
 I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in
 a different place  putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the
 ferals during the day  the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons
 are nocturnal like opossums
 
  
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  
 
 Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to
 keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am feeding 7
 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food
 every night in the dry food feeding station.  I feed the cats by day some
 meat and throw away the plates when done.  But the dry food is a staple food
 for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give.  Also, in
 case I can't get there to feed them.  Any suggestions?  I have seen some
 constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and
 there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything!  Please
 let me know.  I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have
 to do with helping cats.  Dotty - Freehold, NJ
 
  
 
  
 
  
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats

2012-06-01 Thread dot winkler
Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for 
the 7 cats i feed every day.  They are all so beautiful and quite healthy 
looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food.  At least 3 of them are 
very friendly and the others are coming around, too.  Anyone have any input 
about how to place these cats?  I hate to bring them to a shelter even if it's 
no kill.  They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how 
long.  It's very hard feeding every day.  It's just me and my husband.  We can 
never go away anywhere now because of it.  What are your experiences?  Dotty



 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 

Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.  Because i would 
have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one.  One trip is to bring 
the meat to them.  If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry 
food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back 
and then another time that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over 
and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!  Thanks for 
all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the RAMP?  I was not sure I 
understood.  Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise 
a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry 
food station and then open in the morning!  L.O.L.  dotty



 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds 
don't get or drop.  I also get possums coming for the seed.  They both come to 
the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the 
birds.  They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just 
been weaned.  When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming 
back.  Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them?  Coons 
are smart, scheming little kids.  I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of 
a trap, so I watched all night and caught her.  She entered the trap, sucked in 
her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, 
took the food and backed out.  Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the 
trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap.  Big Momma, another 
(35lbs) kept getting in my seed can.  She would open
 it and let the babies in to eat.  Tried using straps from pick up.  She chewed 
thru them.  Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she 
could get in to it.  
Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too.  I will ask Perk 
(an old timer round here who used to hunt them)  maybe he can come up with 
something.  Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the 
cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
  
 
 Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can
 also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people
 call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that
 there's something wrong with
 them, like rabies, distemper.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  
 
 They are and they are a royal pain.  
 
 On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:
 
  
 
 I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in
 a different place  putting dry food out for
 the Opossums. Also I feed the
 ferals during the day  the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons
 are nocturnal like opossums
 
  
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  
 
 Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to
 keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am feeding 7
 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food
 every night in the dry food feeding station.  I feed the cats by day some
 meat and throw away the plates when done.  But the dry food is a staple food
 for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give.  Also, in
 case I can't get

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-06-01 Thread MaiMaiPG

Door on a timer?  However, my bet is on the coons.
On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:37 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.   
Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of  
one.  One trip is to bring the meat to them.  If I did that in the  
evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to  
come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another time  
that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over and work  
schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!  Thanks for  
all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the RAMP?  I was not  
sure I understood.  Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool  
if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so  
nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the  
morning!  L.O.L.  dotty


From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what  
the birds don't get or drop.  I also get possums coming for the  
seed.  They both come to the feeders especially during a dry spell  
because I also put out water for the birds.  They come all during  
the day, especially the young ones who have just been weaned.  When  
they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming back.  Maybe  
try moving the food to a different location, confuse them?  Coons  
are smart, scheming little kids.  I had one that sekt stealing the  
bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her.  She  
entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the  
door and reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed  
out.  Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in  
the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap.  Big Momma, another  
(35lbs) kept getting in my seed can.  She would open it and let the  
babies in to eat.  Tried using straps from pick up.  She chewed thru  
them.  Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so  
she could get in to it.
Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too.  I  
will ask Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them)  maybe  
he can come up with something.  Have you thought of bringing the dry  
food in at night and once the cats got used to the feeding schedule,  
they would not come for food at night.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


 Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones,  
they can
 also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes  
many people
 call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming  
that

 there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper.



 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION



 They are and they are a royal pain.

 On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:



 I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the  
ferals in
 a different place  putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I  
feed the
 ferals during the day  the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if  
raccoons

 are nocturnal like opossums



 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 







  _

 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION



 Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or  
how to
 keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am  
feeding 7
 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the  
dry food
 every night in the dry food feeding station.  I feed the cats by  
day some
 meat and throw away the plates when done.  But the dry food is a  
staple food
 for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give.   
Also, in
 case I can't get there to feed them.  Any suggestions?  I have  
seen some
 constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into  
them and
 there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into  
anything!  Please
 let me know.  I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it  
does have

 to do with helping cats.  Dotty - Freehold, NJ









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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats

2012-06-01 Thread MaiMaiPG
If they are spayed and neutered and if you have a farm where barn cats  
are needed and cared for.not just dumped to fend for  
themselves...The receivers would have to understand relocation and  
the special needs of the relocated cats but they are available.

On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:43 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find  
homes for the 7 cats i feed every day.  They are all so beautiful  
and quite healthy looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry  
food.  At least 3 of them are very friendly and the others are  
coming around, too.  Anyone have any input about how to place these  
cats?  I hate to bring them to a shelter even if it's no kill.  They  
will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how  
long.  It's very hard feeding every day.  It's just me and my  
husband.  We can never go away anywhere now because of it.  What are  
your experiences?  Dotty


From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.   
Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of  
one.  One trip is to bring the meat to them.  If I did that in the  
evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to  
come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another time  
that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over and work  
schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!  Thanks for  
all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the RAMP?  I was not  
sure I understood.  Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool  
if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so  
nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the  
morning!  L.O.L.  dotty


From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what  
the birds don't get or drop.  I also get possums coming for the  
seed.  They both come to the feeders especially during a dry spell  
because I also put out water for the birds.  They come all during  
the day, especially the young ones who have just been weaned.  When  
they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming back.  Maybe  
try moving the food to a different location, confuse them?  Coons  
are smart, scheming little kids.  I had one that sekt stealing the  
bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her.  She  
entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the  
door and reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed  
out.  Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in  
the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap.  Big Momma, another  
(35lbs) kept getting in my seed can.  She would open it and let the  
babies in to eat.  Tried using straps from pick up.  She chewed thru  
them.  Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so  
she could get in to it.
Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too.  I  
will ask Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them)  maybe  
he can come up with something.  Have you thought of bringing the dry  
food in at night and once the cats got used to the feeding schedule,  
they would not come for food at night.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


 Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones,  
they can
 also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes  
many people
 call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming  
that

 there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper.



 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION



 They are and they are a royal pain.

 On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:



 I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the  
ferals in
 a different place  putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I  
feed the
 ferals during the day  the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if  
raccoons

 are nocturnal like opossums



 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 







  _

 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION



 Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or  
how to
 keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am  
feeding 7
 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats

2012-06-01 Thread Natalie
In what area are you living?  Are they spayed/neutered?

Natalie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the
stray cats

 

Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for
the 7 cats i feed every day.  They are all so beautiful and quite healthy
looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food.  At least 3 of them
are very friendly and the others are coming around, too.  Anyone have any
input about how to place these cats?  I hate to bring them to a shelter even
if it's no kill.  They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for
god knows how long.  It's very hard feeding every day.  It's just me and my
husband.  We can never go away anywhere now because of it.  What are your
experiences?  Dotty

 

  _  

From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

 

Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.  Because i
would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one.  One trip is
to bring the meat to them.  If I did that in the evening then I could bring
in the dry food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the
dry food back and then another time that day to bring it in again.  I live
the next town over and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as
it  is!  Thanks for all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the RAMP?
I was not sure I understood.  Just thought of something - wouldn't it be
cool if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so
nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the morning!
L.O.L.  dotty

 

  _  

From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION


I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds
don't get or drop.  I also get possums coming for the seed.  They both come
to the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water
for the birds.  They come all during the day, especially the young ones who
have just been weaned.  When they find an easy source of food, they will
keep coming back.  Maybe try moving the food to a different location,
confuse them?  Coons are smart, scheming little kids.  I had one that sekt
stealing the bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her.  She
entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the door and
reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed out.  Next night, I
wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in the struggle to get it, she
sprung the trap.  Big Momma, another (35lbs) kept getting in my seed can.
She would open it and let the babies in to eat.  Tried using straps from
pick up.  She chewed thru them.  Brought it inside and she tried to turn the
door handle so she could get in to it.  
Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too.  I will ask
Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them)  maybe he can come up
with something.  Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and
once the cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food
at night.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
  
 
 Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they
can
 also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people
 call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that
 there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  
 
 They are and they are a royal pain.  
 
 On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:
 
  
 
 I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals
in
 a different place  putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the
 ferals during the day  the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if
raccoons
 are nocturnal like opossums
 
  
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
  _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  
 
 Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to
 keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am feeding 7
 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats

2012-06-01 Thread dlgegg
I was going to suggest a ramp, but alas, the coons could also use it.  

RE:  taking them to a no kill shelter, if it is like the ones around here, they 
are not able to take on any more dogs or cats.  Everyone who has lost ajob, 
home and has to move in with relatives, brings their animals to the shelter.  
You are right, they would have to spend some time there especially if they are 
not socialized.  That takes time and that means time in cages.  I took 2 from 
P.A.L.S..  I had gone to see about 1 cat and ended up with both Lil Bit and 
Casey.  They had been in an 8 x 10 cage with about 6 or 8 other cats for over a 
year.  Lil Bit is just now moving around the house because she is so small 
(6lbs) and timid and Casey is getting used to NOT being allowed to bully 
everyone.  I just wish people would bring a short letter giving information 
about their pets so the adopter would understand why they are the way they are. 
 Often they are misunderstood and end up back at the shelter because people do 
not have the patience to try to understand them


 dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for 
 the 7 cats i feed every day.  They are all so beautiful and quite healthy 
 looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food.  At least 3 of them 
 are very friendly and the others are coming around, too.  Anyone have any 
 input about how to place these cats?  I hate to bring them to a shelter even 
 if it's no kill.  They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god 
 knows how long.  It's very hard feeding every day.  It's just me and my 
 husband.  We can never go away anywhere now because of it.  What are your 
 experiences?  Dotty



 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 

Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night.  Because i would 
have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one.  One trip is to bring 
the meat to them.  If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry 
food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back 
and then another time that day to bring it in again.  I live the next town over 
and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it  is!  Thanks for 
all your suggestions.  What did you mean about the RAMP?  I was not sure I 
understood.  Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise 
a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry 
food station and then open in the morning!  L.O.L.  dotty



 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
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Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds 
don't get or drop.  I also get possums coming for the seed.  They both come to 
the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the 
birds.  They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just 
been weaned.  When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming 
back.  Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them?  Coons 
are smart, scheming little kids.  I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of 
a trap, so I watched all night and caught her.  She entered the trap, sucked in 
her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, 
took the food and backed out.  Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the 
trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap.  Big Momma, another 
(35lbs) kept getting in my seed can.  She would open
 it and let the babies in to eat.  Tried using straps from pick up.  She chewed 
thru them.  Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she 
could get in to it.  
Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too.  I will ask Perk 
(an old timer round here who used to hunt them)  maybe he can come up with 
something.  Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the 
cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
  
 
 Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can
 also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people
 call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that
 there's something wrong with
 them, like rabies, distemper.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats

2012-06-01 Thread Marta Gasper
They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. 
 
I always pipe up when somebody says that cats sit in cages at shelter/in jail, 
etc..well that is true of kill shelters and some no-kills. And BTW not all open 
policy shelters put the cat in the cage and leave it there.
 
No-kills specially know very well that an animal can't live in a cage. I don't 
work at a shelter but am close friends with a nk and several HS's. Cats don't 
do well in cages for an extended period of time. While medicating and being 
socialized, acclimated and other changes, yes, they have to be.
But it is dangerous actually to hold animals in cages b/c of stress which leads 
to disease. They know that or should know it.
Depending on room cats are taken out of the cages and let roam in rooms, 
ussualy are in for the night. At the no-kill the only cats in cages are sick 
ones or baby kittens. Even fractious cats they separate in groups in small 
rooms. For instance one year ago the nk shelter took one of my rescue cats, she 
was tame but has a very short fuse. She was in a cage during quarantine(10 
days) and that was it. Afterwards shared a room with one cat she could bear, 
doesn't like much other cats.
She'd swipe at people too so she needed an understanding owner, finally last 
week that family showed up and she was adopted.
In your situation I'd ask a  no-kill shelter, true most are full but you never 
know. Unless you wish to keep all the cats, which probably for them is the best 
alternative. Where are you at?
Marta
 
 
http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

 
I was going to suggest a ramp, but alas, the coons could also use it.  

RE:  taking them to a no kill shelter, if it is like the ones around here, they 
are not able to take on any more dogs or cats.  Everyone who has lost ajob, 
home and has to move in with relatives, brings their animals to the shelter.  
You are right, they would have to spend some time there especially if they are 
not socialized.  That takes time and that means time in cages.  I took 2 from 
P.A.L.S..  I had gone to see about 1 cat and ended up with both Lil Bit and 
Casey.  They had been in an 8 x 10 cage with about 6 or 8 other cats for over a 
year.  Lil Bit is just now moving around the house because she is so small 
(6lbs) and timid and Casey is getting used to NOT being allowed to bully 
everyone.  I just wish people would bring a short letter giving information 
about their pets so the adopter would understand why they are the way they 
are.  Often they are misunderstood and end up back at the shelter because 
people do not have the patience to try
 to understand them


 dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for 
 the 7 cats i feed every day.  They are all so beautiful and quite healthy 
 looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food.  At least 3 of them 
 are very friendly and the others are coming around, too.  Anyone have any 
 input about how to place these cats?  I hate to bring them to a shelter even 
 if it's no kill.  They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god 
 knows how long.  It's very hard feeding every day.  It's just me and my 
 husband.  We can never go away anywhere now because of it.  What are your 
 experiences?  Dotty



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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply

2012-05-31 Thread dot winkler


Yeah, you are right.  I was thinking that this was a mommy raccoon and she was 
hungry and may have babies somewhere. And that's why she was coming around by 
day. I have stopped the dry food for 2 weeks and now only restarted to see what 
the outcome is.  I haven't seen the raccoon now for 2 weeks.  It was just hard 
feeding the cats only the meat once a day because they were too hungry and 
ravenous by the next day.  So, then i was driving over twice a day with the 
meat and it was too much for me, with working and all.  So, the dry food is a 
good idea for the cats to help supplement them.  thanks for your input.


 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:52 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW:  RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 

 
Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can 
also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people call 
ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that there’s 
something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper…
 
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
They are and they are a royal pain.  
On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:
 
I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in a 
different place  putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the ferals 
during the day  the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons are 
nocturnal like opossums
 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 
 



From:dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to 
keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am feeding 7 outdoor 
cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food every night 
in the dry food feeding station.  I feed the cats by day some meat and throw 
away the plates when done.  But the dry food is a staple food for them which 
they need to supplement the one feeding I give.  Also, in case I can't get 
there to feed them.  Any suggestions?  I have seen some constructions on line 
but the cats have to jump up to get into them and there is one older cat I 
don't think he can jump up into anything!  Please let me know.  I know this has 
nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have to do with helping cats.  Dotty - 
Freehold, NJ
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-05-31 Thread dlgegg
I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds 
don't get or drop.  I also get possums coming for the seed.  They both come to 
the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the 
birds.  They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just 
been weaned.  When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming 
back.  Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them?  Coons 
are smart, scheming little kids.  I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of 
a trap, so I watched all night and caught her.  She entered the trap, sucked in 
her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, 
took the food and backed out.  Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the 
trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap.  Big Momma, another 
(35lbs) kept getting in my seed can.  She would open it and let the babies in 
to eat.  Tried using straps from pick up.  She chewed thru them.  Brought it 
inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she could get in to it.  
Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too.  I will ask Perk 
(an old timer round here who used to hunt them)  maybe he can come up with 
something.  Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the 
cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
  
 
 Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can
 also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people
 call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that
 there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper.
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  
 
 They are and they are a royal pain.  
 
 On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:
 
  
 
 I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in
 a different place  putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the
 ferals during the day  the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons
 are nocturnal like opossums
 
  
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
 
  
 
 Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to
 keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am feeding 7
 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food
 every night in the dry food feeding station.  I feed the cats by day some
 meat and throw away the plates when done.  But the dry food is a staple food
 for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give.  Also, in
 case I can't get there to feed them.  Any suggestions?  I have seen some
 constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and
 there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything!  Please
 let me know.  I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have
 to do with helping cats.  Dotty - Freehold, NJ
 
  
 
  
 
  
 


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[Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-05-29 Thread Natalie
 

Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can
also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people
call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that
there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper.

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

 

They are and they are a royal pain.  

On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:

 

I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in
a different place  putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the
ferals during the day  the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons
are nocturnal like opossums

 

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From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

 

Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to
keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am feeding 7
outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food
every night in the dry food feeding station.  I feed the cats by day some
meat and throw away the plates when done.  But the dry food is a staple food
for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give.  Also, in
case I can't get there to feed them.  Any suggestions?  I have seen some
constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and
there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything!  Please
let me know.  I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have
to do with helping cats.  Dotty - Freehold, NJ

 

 

 

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