Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Robin, I'm so sorry you lost Kiwi. He knows you did everything within your power. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to him, and hugs to you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 9:04 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Dearest Robin, I lost my sweet baby Fluffie two weeks ago. The hurt is still so strong. You work so hard to save them and yet sometimes they still have to leave us. It's so fustrating. I send you love and know I feel your pain. I am hurting too but you are not alone. We are all here for you. Take your time, I hate when people think you should just get over it after a few days. I will never get over it only time will make it easier to deal with. For me I know that the pain seems so much but to never have had her in my life hurts even more. Kiwi was blessed and the love he gave was pure and all yours and death can't even take that from you. Hugs, April Message: 2 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:04:21 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3 ** PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Kiwi left this world cared for...Bless you for loving the little one. Try to find some peace in the comfort you gave Kiwi. On Oct 3, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Lynne wrote: My prayers go out to you and Kiwi Robin. I'm so sorry for your loss. You did your best and Kiwi loves you for it. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3494 (20081003) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Robin, I'm so sorry for your loss of Kiwi. Bless you for giving him the love and care he needed in his short stay here. He is at the bridge romping with others that are there. Where there is no illnesses and everyone is happy. I'm sure he has met my Taz by now. BTW...I love that name. I will name one of my rescue Russian Blue kittens Kiwi. Please vote we are entered in 2 different contests! Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294 _http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchallenge.faces?siteId= 3_ (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchallenge.faces?siteId=3) Please vote for TAZZYS! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/ SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for national rescue. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Robin, Prayers going out for your peace and comfort. I'm sorry about little Kiwi. We're here for you if you need to vent/talk. Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 9:04:21 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi
Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
My prayers go out to you and Kiwi Robin. I'm so sorry for your loss. You did your best and Kiwi loves you for it. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3494 (20081003) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
I am so sorry and I do understand. May your heart find peace in your wonderful memories of Kiwi. Hugs sally On 10/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Robin I am so sorry you lost your sweet Kiwi(I love the name).Hugs to you. Sherry --- On Fri, 10/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:04 PM Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Dear Robin, I am so sorry. Kiwi is now romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies. Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:04 PM Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad
Robyn, You and Kiwi are in my thoughts and prayers. tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not posted for a while about kiwi. I think the last one I told you that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan. He never did. Before that I tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings. I have no funds to get him to vet. Sad to say, kiwi is really sick. He is unable to keep food down. He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat. I gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up. He does drink a little water. I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down. He used his kitty litter in the last day or so. Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food. He didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony. He was always full of energy. I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep. I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore. To you who have not read my earlier postings, I did not adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling. He bought him home and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food. He thrived. My daughter who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided to take kiwi also. (this one time) Sadly, Kiwi came out positive for feline leukemia. We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, and again he came back positive. We new that we would not be able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue. None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat. We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him. So we did the best we could for him, but it wasn't enough. I don't blame anyone. It's just how it is. It's just so hard when your hands are tied. Well, I better go for now. I will let you know what happened. Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
If Kiwi hasn't eaten or had much to drink for awhile it will take a few hours for him to need to use his box. Just keep an eye on him. It sounds like he is making good progress. Lorrie On 09-28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave Kiwi water and some pumpkin via a syringe. He did ok. He has not thrown it up so far. I changed his dry food to another and he has actually eaten a few. My concern this moment is that he hasn't urinated or defecated. I am going to give him a little tuna in a few hours. I don't want to put to much in his delicate system. I will try to coax him to use his kitty litter box. Well, that's all for now. Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad
Robin, My heart goes out to little Kiwi, and to your family as well. It's never easy. Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:57:46 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad I have not posted for a while about kiwi. I think the last one I told you that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan. He never did. Before that I tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings. I have no funds to get him to vet. Sad to say, kiwi is really sick. He is unable to keep food down. He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat. I gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up. He does drink a little water. I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down. He used his kitty litter in the last day or so. Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food. He didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony. He was always full of energy. I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep. I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore. To you who have not read my earlier postings, I did not adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling. He bought him home and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food. He thrived. My daughter who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided to take kiwi also. (this one time) Sadly, Kiwi came out positive for feline leukemia. We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, and again he came back positive. We new that we would not be able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue. None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat. We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him. So we did the best we could for him, but it wasn't enough. I don't blame anyone. It's just how it is. It's just so hard when your hands are tied. Well, I better go for now. I will let you know what happened. Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - sad
Robin, Sharyl gave you great info. The babyfood worked wonders with one of my kitties who had issues with her stomach so bad she stopped eating. I thought we were going to lose her, but more than twice she came through with the help of the baby food, pepcid ac, and chicken broth and boiled chicken. Make sure she is getting fluids. Dehydration makes kitties feel horrible. Syringing several drops or more every hour or so may help. Keep us posted, Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:17:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - sad Tried to give Kiwi a little canned pumpkin. He tried to ignore it, but I put a tiny bit in his mouth and he became a little interested. He ate a tiny bit more on his own then he stopped. I am going to wait 30 minutes to make sure he can keep it down. I am not sure what to look for. I guess maybe for his appetite to return eventually. I just wish I could afford to take him to a vet to see exactly what is going on with him. Anyway, I'll let you know how things are coming along soon. Thanks! Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad
I have not posted for a while about kiwi. I think the last one I told you that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan. He never did. Before that I tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings. I have no funds to get him to vet. Sad to say, kiwi is really sick. He is unable to keep food down. He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat. I gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up. He does drink a little water. I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down. He used his kitty litter in the last day or so. Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food. He didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony. He was always full of energy. I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep. I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore. To you who have not read my earlier postings, I did not adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling. He bought him home and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food. He thrived. My daughter who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided to take kiwi also. (this one time) Sadly, Kiwi came out positive for feline leukemia. We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, and again he came back positive. We new that we would not be able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue. None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat. We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him. So we did the best we could for him, but it wasn't enough. I don't blame anyone. It's just how it is. It's just so hard when your hands are tied. Well, I better go for now. I will let you know what happened. Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad
I know it's a difficult situation, but there are rescues and rescuers that take FELV cats/kittens. And if he chooses to keep him, would be such a gift. What I do to boost the immune system - and it works well - is to give 1cc interferon once daily to my FELV kitties that are less than 3 -4 years old. Different vet sell interferon alpha for different amounts of $$. I shopped around and found a vet who would sell me a big supply that lasts several months, for $15. I buy it from him, mix it as instructed, and freeze it in small containers, so that I can get it and unfreeze as needed. I give 1cc daily with a 3cc syringe. Best of luck, Gloria On Sep 28, 2008, at 8:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not posted for a while about kiwi. I think the last one I told you that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan. He never did. Before that I tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings. I have no funds to get him to vet. Sad to say, kiwi is really sick. He is unable to keep food down. He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat. I gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up. He does drink a little water. I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down. He used his kitty litter in the last day or so. Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food. He didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony. He was always full of energy. I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep. I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore. To you who have not read my earlier postings, I did not adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling. He bought him home and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food. He thrived. My daughter who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided to take kiwi also. (this one time) Sadly, Kiwi came out positive for feline leukemia. We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, and again he came back positive. We new that we would not be able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue. None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/ cat. We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him. So we did the best we could for him, but it wasn't enough. I don't blame anyone. It's just how it is. It's just so hard when your hands are tied. Well, I better go for now. I will let you know what happened. Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad
Robin, I don't know if Kiwi is crashing from the FeLV or for another reason. I understand you are limited with funds. One idea would be to feed him meat baby food (no onion or garlic). Gerbers 2 Chicken and Gravy is a favorite in our house. If he can't eat it on his own you can assist feed him with a syringe. I got 10 cc syringes in the baby section at the drug store. The pharmacists may just give you a few syringes. Notice I said assist feed not force feed. It is a state of mind. You are assisting Kiwi to eat. There is a great Yahoo Assist Feeding group that you can join. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ A kitty who isn't eating has less desire to eat, especially a kitty who has been throwing up. Original Strength Pepcid AC (not any of the other versions of Pepcid) or Famotidine, the generic version helps with stomach acid. I'd try 1/4 of a 10 mg tablet once a day to see if it helps. I crush it, dissolve it in a little water, add it to the baby food and syringe it to my cats. You could try adding some peas or squash baby food to his food for the diarrhea. Canned pumpkin (not pie filling) works too. Usually 1/2 tsp with every feeding. Slippery Elm Bark, which is found in health food stores, is one of those good for everything supplements. It is a powder that can be added to food or dissolved in water and syringed. SEB helps nausea, diarrhea and constipation. Just wanted to put some ideas out there on how you could make Kiwi more comfortable. Sharyl --- On Sun, 9/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:57 AM I have not posted for a while about kiwi. I think the last one I told you that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan. He never did. Before that I tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings. I have no funds to get him to vet. Sad to say, kiwi is really sick. He is unable to keep food down. He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat. I gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up. He does drink a little water. I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down. He used his kitty litter in the last day or so. Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food. He didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony. He was always full of energy. I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep. I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore. To you who have not read my earlier postings, I did not adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling. He bought him home and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food. He thrived. My daughter who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided to take kiwi also. (this one time) Sadly, Kiwi came out positive for feline leukemia. We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, and again he came back positive. We new that we would not be able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue. None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat. We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him. So we did the best we could for him, but it wasn't enough. I don't blame anyone. It's just how it is. It's just so hard when your hands are tied. Well, I better go for now. I will let you know what happened. Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad
He has been able to keep a few flakes of canned tuna down, and he is drinking. I think that I have a can of plain pumpkin and I am going to try giving him a little bit. What ever I give him I just want to give him a little at a time. To much might be to much for his system to handle right now. I will get back to you after I try the pumpkin. Thanks! Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi - sad
Tried to give Kiwi a little canned pumpkin. He tried to ignore it, but I put a tiny bit in his mouth and he became a little interested. He ate a tiny bit more on his own then he stopped. I am going to wait 30 minutes to make sure he can keep it down. I am not sure what to look for. I guess maybe for his appetite to return eventually. I just wish I could afford to take him to a vet to see exactly what is going on with him. Anyway, I'll let you know how things are coming along soon. Thanks! Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi
I gave Kiwi water and some pumpkin via a syringe. He did ok. He has not thrown it up so far. I changed his dry food to another and he has actually eaten a few. My concern this moment is that he hasn't urinated or defecated. I am going to give him a little tuna in a few hours. I don't want to put to much in his delicate system. I will try to coax him to use his kitty litter box. Well, that's all for now. Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Have you tried giving them canned pumpkin? Whenever my kitties start to get diarrhea, I give them that. They love the stuff!Alice Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:51:21 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat There is a new product for diarrhea (Purina?). Maybe someone else remembers what it's called. May need a vet to provide it. Not sure. I wouldn't sit on either problem. Good you are acting. Prayers for Kiwi. L Iowa You do not need a vet to provide Fortiflora, if that is what you are talking about...Purina makes it. Fortiflora: *http://tinyurl.com/4zp9h5 *My vet swears by Diarsanyl : *http://tinyurl.com/6cpowb *He says it contains volcanic earth, and to quote him sounds like hippie stuff, but it works. I keep both in my arsenal of kitty diarrhea remedies. Usually if one does not work, the other will. * * http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi
Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Not being able to take him to the vet makes it tough. Canned pumpkin (not pie filling) has helped many kitties. So has slippery elm bark which can be found in most health food stores or on line. Also giving a probiotic could help. Since Kiwi won't eat canned food it might be hard to give him the pumpkin. Diarrhea can lead to dehydration which will cause another laundry list of problems. Food allergies and IBD both cause these symptoms. A cat can develop a food allergy even if they have been eating a food for a period of time. The eyes are another issue. He may need terramycin salve to clear up the eye. Supplementing with L-Lysine couldn't hurt. Sharyl --- On Sat, 8/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 9:44 PM My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi ~ urgency imo
Diarrhea is a serious problem. It can result in death. It can be from something as simple as parasites and as serious as intestinal cancer. Can be from food allergies or IBD. More info here: http://www.our-happy-cat.com/cat-diarrhea.html http://cats.suite101.com/article.cfm/diarrhea_in_cats Most vets prescribe metronidazole (flagyl) which is not expensive. I am not a fan of it but it's usually the first thing my vets prescribe. Food trials can get to the bottom of a food allergy (no test for food allergy). Untreated diarrhea can lead to break down of the follicles in intestine that do the work of moving the bowels and the cat will never have normal stools. This happened to one of my cats ~ that is why I urge you to get him to a vet. Maybe friends or family would help? Even if you could get a few people to donate five or 10 dollars, that would help. I doubt it will be more than a vet visit and meds. Some vets take credit cards. In the meantime please give the unflavored pedialtye. I am sure you know that cats can go into liver failure if they go more than 48 hours without proper nutrition. RE the eyes, if you give the wrong remedy, it can make things worse. I would never treat an eye without vet supervision. Please find a way to get him to the vet. These are both serious issues if left untreated. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Good for you for taking care of Kiwi--he sounds like a spunky little guy. Whatever you do for him is more than most would have done and we all just try to do the best we can depending on our circumstances. I have 2 FELV + and one, Romeo, absolutely freaks out if I have to take him to vet. I've only done a few trips with him because of that--it would be good if I could get him there more regularly but the stress to him is not worth it. He's an older guy and I know with him, I have to watch his teeth/gums as he's prone to infections. My other FELV+, Tucson, is more mellow about going to vet but still finds it pretty stressful. I know with her, if she turns her nose up at food, something's going on and I need to check her white blood count. I made a decision based on their personalities, etc. that the very best I could do for both of them was to give them some decent food, keep them safe at home, etc. I know them well enough to sense when something is up. You shouldn't have to bring Kiwi for regular blood tests and I don't bring mine in for yearly checkups. Save vet trips for when you know something's really not right... If vet prescribes meds, have him give u a prescription and consider buying online or even at regular drug store--oftentimes, meds are cheaper that way. Maybe for the diahrea, start by bringing stool sample for testing to vet first. Its cheaper and this way if you do have to bring Kiwi in, he'll have some ideas about what is or is not going on. In the meantime, get him to eat anything that he'll keep down and make sure he has plenty of fluids--water, water from tuna can, moist people food like chicken, etc. Try not to change the food he eats too often--if you have to, mix the old food w. the new as change of food can also cause diahrea. Look around for some really good food for him--doesn't have to be the most expensive food but watch for fillers that don't have any nutritional value. If he eats chicken fine, then maybe supplement dry food with cooked chicken--and it doesn't have to be chicken breast--my guys LOVE the dark meet I peel off chicken legs, etc. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. Laura --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. Laura --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. Laura --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
I switched my gang to Wellness wet--though it's a bit more than other foods, I find that its nutritious enough that they don't eat quite as much of it. I have two whose weight is a tad bit more than I'd like it to be and wanted to get away from fillers that would put on more weight. I tried the dry a couple of times, but they turned up their noses at it--they're not spoiled or anything! Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. Laura --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
My friend is using the dry only - his 2 cats won't eat the wet. But one cat had hair coming out- little spots - and after switching to Wellness dry, those have gone away - lovely silky fur. THey don't like it as well, but eat it more slowly. His 20 pound fat cat is losing weight, and we're delighted. Gloria At 11:24 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: I switched my gang to Wellness wet--though it's a bit more than other foods, I find that its nutritious enough that they don't eat quite as much of it. I have two whose weight is a tad bit more than I'd like it to be and wanted to get away from fillers that would put on more weight. I tried the dry a couple of times, but they turned up their noses at it--they're not spoiled or anything! Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. Laura --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
My friend is using the dry only - his 2 cats won't eat the wet. But one cat had hair coming out- little spots - and after switching to Wellness dry, those have gone away - lovely silky fur. THey don't like it as well, but eat it more slowly. His 20 pound fat cat is losing weight, and we're delighted. Gloria At 11:24 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: I switched my gang to Wellness wet--though it's a bit more than other foods, I find that its nutritious enough that they don't eat quite as much of it. I have two whose weight is a tad bit more than I'd like it to be and wanted to get away from fillers that would put on more weight. I tried the dry a couple of times, but they turned up their noses at it--they're not spoiled or anything! Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. Laura --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
www.catinfo.org has info about Wellness and other good foods. Grain free is what she recommends (she's a vet). She likes canned for cats better than dry. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi My friend is using the dry only - his 2 cats won't eat the wet. But one cat had hair coming out- little spots - and after switching to Wellness dry, those have gone away - lovely silky fur. THey don't like it as well, but eat it more slowly. His 20 pound fat cat is losing weight, and we're delighted. Gloria At 11:24 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: I switched my gang to Wellness wet--though it's a bit more than other foods, I find that its nutritious enough that they don't eat quite as much of it. I have two whose weight is a tad bit more than I'd like it to be and wanted to get away from fillers that would put on more weight. I tried the dry a couple of times, but they turned up their noses at it--they're not spoiled or anything! Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi I have a friend who's had good luck with Wellness for other things - Gloria At 10:03 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: One of my fosters (FeLV negative) is an older cat who always had diarrhea problems, no matter what food I used. Finally I put him on Wellness and he hasn't had diarrhea since. Laura --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:37 AM Another remedy - our rescue normally does a drop or two of Revolution on the back for kittens - can get fleas and internal parasites. I also buy Panacur for $8 at the Farmers store, and give a little bit (1/4 cc) to kittens for parasites. I buy homeopathic anti-diarrhea tincture in a small bottle for $8-10 at the health food store and use it for some forms of diarrhea. I like the canned pumpkin for diarrhea too, sounds like a great first thing to try for the baby. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 24, 2008, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will only take him to the vets as needed. I am a little worried because he is a bit thin and has the runny stools that he might have some type of deficiency. He might need it this time just to see where he stands. He hasn't seen a vet since he was fixed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi
Have not noticed flees or him scratching. He is kept inside and he gets some topical treatment so he does not get fleas. One of my daughters does that. It's a well known. Just can't think of the name. Thanks! Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kiwi
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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Wellness is cat food. Check out www.catinfo.org for info about canned wellness. It's sold by Mother Hubbard ~ you can buy at retailers or order online. I recommend chicken or turkey canned. Best to avoid fish and any with grains. Parasites that live in the intestine will not be killed by Frontline flea treatment. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi What is wellness. It's sounds a little familiar. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
It is Revolution that claims to kill roundworms and hookworms (and ear mites, and protects against heartworms). Tapeworms you need a different dewormer for. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wellness is cat food. Check out www.catinfo.org for info about canned wellness. It's sold by Mother Hubbard ~ you can buy at retailers or order online. I recommend chicken or turkey canned. Best to avoid fish and any with grains. Parasites that live in the intestine will not be killed by Frontline flea treatment. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi What is wellness. It's sounds a little familiar. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi ~ vet input re Revolution
Revolution also claims to kill fleas. It is not the best for ear mites since they have a 3 week cycle and if you do repeat the Revolution, it's repeated at 4 weeks. Here is an exchange I had with a vet regarding Revolution: (VET)Well - I would probably just address each problem separately - use an oral dewormer for the worms and an ear mite medicine that is put directly in the ear. That vet probably carries a product called accarex which is a one-dose ear mite medicine. That is what I would prefer to do anyway. :) - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: RE: Zoe thanks you What would you recommend instead, please. I would prefer not to overkill. Thanks! Laurie From: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:30 AM To: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: Zoe thanks you Hi Laurie. I am happy to hear that Zoe recovered alright. About Revolution - it is an ok product if you have a cat that truly needs treatment all of the things that Revolution covers. I am not crazy about it and don't use it on my cats - it covers everything but doesn't seem to really cover anything all that well (and it is expensive). I have had a large number of clients complain that they were not impressed by its ability to control fleas. When it first became available 5 years ago or so - the clinic that I was working at did an experiment to see how truly efficacious it was against internal parasites (worms) - we were not impressed and after that little in-house experiment did not rely on it for that purpose. It is probably better suited as a preventative tool than a curative tool for established problems. If you just have ear mite issues and deworming needs - I guess Revolution wouldn't be my first choice of treatment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi It is Revolution that claims to kill roundworms and hookworms (and ear mites, and protects against heartworms). Tapeworms you need a different dewormer for. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wellness is cat food. Check out www.catinfo.org for info about canned wellness. It's sold by Mother Hubbard ~ you can buy at retailers or order online. I recommend chicken or turkey canned. Best to avoid fish and any with grains. Parasites that live in the intestine will not be killed by Frontline flea treatment. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi What is wellness. It's sounds a little familiar. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi ~ vet input re Revolution
My primary concern is heartworms. I use strongid or panacur (both otc) for regular worms, and tapeworm tablets (now otc as welL) for tapeworms. I can say that I have never had any earmites since starting to use Revolution,w hich is at least 3 years ago. Since my cats don't go outside fleas are not a huge issue for me. I do have capstar as well. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revolution also claims to kill fleas. It is not the best for ear mites since they have a 3 week cycle and if you do repeat the Revolution, it's repeated at 4 weeks. Here is an exchange I had with a vet regarding Revolution: -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Welcome to the group. Chicken breast, as well as chicken broth, worked great with my kitty Julie, who had some eating issues. Didn't help with diarrhea though. Canned pumpkin can be good for that (without spices). I always promote pure L-lysine as a supplement; you can get it at a health food store. You might have to mix it in his water if he won't eat wet food. Or in chicken broth. It's tasteless. It's good for boosting the immune system. A stress free environment and good diet are the two most important things you can do for Kiwi. The lysine may also help with the stuff in his eyes, because a lot of times that's associated with conjunctivitis/feline herpes (can't sure it but it's not anything serious; it's kind of like cold sores for humans). Lysine is good for herpes because it acts as an anti-viral. Not sure how I feel about regular blood testing for FeLV+ kitties. I did have a kitty die from anemia, so it may surprise some that I have this view, but I think the stress of the vet visit, especially many vet visits, might off-set the benefit of having regular blood tests. But that is just my opinion, and there are others here who may feel differently. Good luck with Kiwi and keep us posted! :) Wendy (Texas) Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:44:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
I'm so glad you joined this group - I remember when I found my little kitten Calawalla Banana BooBoo, in 2001, and she looked so darned healthy - so lively, and she tested positive for FELV and I just didn't know anything about it. Fortunately, I had a vet who didn't sugggest euth. and who said not to worry, the virus dies when it hits the air, etc etc. I kept her separated from my other cats for a while - even taped paper to the bottom of the door. But after rading and talking and being on this list, I finally decided to just open the doors up and mix the cats. WOrked fine. Calawalla died in 2004. I knew about interferon, from Tally and her web site, but never used it - just didn't think that healthy little kitten would get sick and die. But she did, she was between 2.5 and 3 yrs old.It seemed fairly sudden, but she had mediastinal lymphoma. Anyhow, I'm a believer in daily interferon, if the kitties are less than 4 years old. I have a friend with 1 FELV cat and 1 non-FELV cat. She's used oral low dose interferon for her FELV cat, and kitty has made it past kittenhood into adult hood (must be 5 or 6 now). There are vastly different prices available for interferon. BTW, I have 5 FELV cats right now - 1 is 5, 2 are around 13 years, and the new one is a year or two - I'm starting him on interferon. SOunds like your kitten may have some additional problems, but he may turn out ok - I'd encourage you to go ahead and pursue keeping him healthy, and also look into interferon. Chicken sounds like a good option for upset stomach, btw. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 23, 2008, at 8:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Wendy, I am certainly no expert but have experienced life with a felv positive cat. If your Kiwi is acting fine, maybe you could change his diet to see if this helps his diarrhea. We had a cat who would eat nothing but chicken (human chicken) and he lived for over 20 years. Of course he didn't have feline leukemia. Personally, my belief is that stess is the biggest killer of these cats. You can have all the lab work in the world done but if you are not financially in a position to pay for extrodinary treatment, then what is the point. My concern now would be to get the diarrhea under control and watch his eyes. That can be treated. It may not be anything all that significant. If he becomes inactive, won't eat or drink water or seems to be having trouble breathing then I would take him to the vet. Also if the diarrhea doesn't subside with a change in diet he should be checked out as well. Best of luck to you and your Kiwi. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Li ke do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. The re has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3382 (20080823) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
A couple of my cats have herpes. An outbreak is evidenced by clear discharge from the eyes. Gunky eyes most likely mean an upper respiratory infection which may require antibiotics. A failure to treat an infected eye can lead to ulcers and even blindness. I encourage a vet visit for the gunky eyes. A vet can tell you if Kiwi has a temperature...unless you can take his temp. I wouldn't wait for gunky eyes to self correct. For diarrhea/food ideas, check out www.catinfo.org and maybe visit the IBD yahoo group. Sometimes WD works (if they need more fiber) and sometimes Low Reside Works (if they need less fiber). Both foods have to be purchased at vet office. Diarrhea can sometimes mean a food allergy (it does in my house) and often times grains can be allergens. Important to keep him hydrated. You can syringe unflavored pedialyte into his mouth (carefully). Good info on syringing at the feline assisted feeding yahoo group. There is a new product for diarrhea (Purina?). Maybe someone else remembers what it's called. May need a vet to provide it. Not sure. I wouldn't sit on either problem. Good you are acting. Prayers for Kiwi. L Iowa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat Wendy, I am certainly no expert but have experienced life with a felv positive cat. If your Kiwi is acting fine, maybe you could change his diet to see if this helps his diarrhea. We had a cat who would eat nothing but chicken (human chicken) and he lived for over 20 years. Of course he didn't have feline leukemia. Personally, my belief is that stess is the biggest killer of these cats. You can have all the lab work in the world done but if you are not financially in a position to pay for extrodinary treatment, then what is the point. My concern now would be to get the diarrhea under control and watch his eyes. That can be treated. It may not be anything all that significant. If he becomes inactive, won't eat or drink water or seems to be having trouble breathing then I would take him to the vet. Also if the diarrhea doesn't subside with a change in diet he should be checked out as well. Best of luck to you and your Kiwi. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Li ke do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. The re has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3382 (20080823) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
I hope everything turns out OK for the little guy. Will Bandfield take him and not exclude anything to do with pre-existing conditions? Will they take a FeLV+ cat at all? I would guess they wouldn't cover him but would be very happy to hear they would. Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3382 (20080823) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
There is a new product for diarrhea (Purina?). Maybe someone else remembers what it's called. May need a vet to provide it. Not sure. I wouldn't sit on either problem. Good you are acting. Prayers for Kiwi. L Iowa You do not need a vet to provide Fortiflora, if that is what you are talking about...Purina makes it. Fortiflora: *http://tinyurl.com/4zp9h5 *My vet swears by Diarsanyl : *http://tinyurl.com/6cpowb *He says it contains volcanic earth, and to quote him sounds like hippie stuff, but it works. I keep both in my arsenal of kitty diarrhea remedies. Usually if one does not work, the other will. * * http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive
You will get lots of advice here. How old is your other cat? Odds are that if your other cat didn't contract felv from kiwi from the time they were together he won't ever contract it. There is always a small risk. But I have mixed at least 13 negative cats with up to two positive cats over a period of over 10 years and have never had the disease pass from the positive cats to one of the negative cats. tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last summer my son brought home a kitten who was between 2 1/2 and 3 weeks old. He found him beside his dead sibling. He was actually in good health. We bought some kitten formula and he drank like a horse. We worked on getting him use to people so that he could eventually get him into a rescue. My daughter who was living with me at the time took her cat in for his regular shots, and took kiwi with her so she could be looked at. I guess kiwi was about 3 months old then. We were very shocked when kiwi came back positive for feline luk. The doctors asked without saying the words if we wanted to put him asleep. We said no. At that point she was and kind of still is a very healthy happy one year old who loves to wrestle with our cocker and would love to play with my daughter's Japanese Bob Tail Cat, but unfortunately we have to keep them separate. The Japanese Bob Tail Cat has been immunized against Feline Luk, but we have also heard that the shot does not offer 100% protection. It's sad because they use to love to play together. We were hoping that in a few months kiwi would come back negative, but he came back positive for the second test. He still is very active, but he has been having trouble with loose bowels. He is also a bit on the thin side. I don't have the money to take him to the vets and we have tried to find him a rescue and or foster home, but right now it doesn't seem like any are available. One thing positive is that we were able to find an organization to neuter him. Now he doesn't spray. Thank God! He is funny sometimes. Some times he gets one of his claws caught in things like curtains, and cat toys. He was trying to catch a fly one day by our back patio window and his nail got caught in the curtain and he couldn't get free. He was scared and somehow got himself wrapped in the curtain. He was so grateful when I freed him. His favorite toy is a 3 inch round black rubber spider. He loves carrying it around in the house. I don't let him play with it unless someone is here with him because I worry about him swallowing it and it getting stuck in his intestines causing a blockage. He also loves laser pointers. She loves chasing the dot on the floor or wall. He loves the little jingle cat balls, or strings. One thing I don't understand is that she enjoys licking our cocker spaniels face. He is such a funny cat. Besides that he loves to check everything out. He is the curious little cat. I would enclose a picture of him but I am new to this site and I don't know if that is allowed. Well, enough for now. I would appreciate advise from anyone on raising a feline luk positive cat. Thanks! Robin Pine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive
Robin, what a wonderful story. All of my cats came to me much the same way you found Kiwiorphaned or abandoned...sometimes right after birth. Love him all you can and enjoy his little antics...sometimes their time is very short! Good luck! Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:48:29 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive Last summer my son brought home a kitten who was between 2 1/2 and 3 weeks old. He found him beside his dead sibling. He was actually in good health. We bought some kitten formula and he drank like a horse. We worked on getting him use to people so that he could eventually get him into a rescue. My daughter who was living with me at the time took her cat in for his regular shots, and took kiwi with her so she could be looked at. I guess kiwi was about 3 months old then. We were very shocked when kiwi came back positive for feline luk. The doctors asked without saying the words if we wanted to put him asleep. We said no. At that point she was and kind of still is a very healthy happy one year old who loves to wrestle with our cocker and would love to play with my daughter's Japanese Bob Tail Cat, but unfortunately we have to keep them separate. The Japanese Bob Tail Cat has been immunized against Feline Luk, but we have also heard that the shot does not offer 100% protection. It's sad because they use to love to play together. We were hoping that in a few months kiwi would come back negative, but he came back positive for the second test. He still is very active, but he has been having trouble with loose bowels. He is also a bit on the thin side. I don't have the money to take him to the vets and we have tried to find him a rescue and or foster home, but right now it doesn't seem like any are available. One thing positive is that we were able to find an organization to neuter him. Now he doesn't spray. Thank God! He is funny sometimes. Some times he gets one of his claws caught in things like curtains, and cat toys. He was trying to catch a fly one day by our back patio window and his nail got caught in the curtain and he couldn't get free. He was scared and somehow got himself wrapped in the curtain. He was so grateful when I freed him. His favorite toy is a 3 inch round black rubber spider. He loves carrying it around in the house. I don't let him play with it unless someone is here with him because I worry about him swallowing it and it getting stuck in his intestines causing a blockage. He also loves laser pointers. She loves chasing the dot on the floor or wall. He loves the little jingle cat balls, or strings. One thing I don't understand is that she enjoys licking our cocker spaniels face. He is such a funny cat. Besides that he loves to check everything out. He is the curious little cat. I would enclose a picture of him but I am new to this site and I don't know if that is allowed. Well, enough for now. I would appreciate advise from anyone on raising a feline luk positive cat. Thanks! Robin Pine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive
Marylyn I've been off this list since the server problem. I am so shocked and saddened to hear about Dixie. I know how much you loved her and can imagine how difficult it must be without her. She is so lucky to have felt safe and loved. I am so sorry. Jane On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:08 PM, Marylyn wrote: The first and really only thing I can tell you is to enjoy every minute you have with your wonderful friend while being alert for any infections/problems. Do not get hung up on the FeLV thing. Learn about it but do not let it ruin the time you have with your friend. That time may be long or short, as it may be with any of us. Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, JP enjoyed and I treasure three years with me. She had everything a little cat could want with the possible exception of mice to hunt. She had the best regular and holistic care from the day we found out she was FeLV+. She left this world suddenly after an infection that left her anemic. She was fine one day then two days later we were making a Code Three run to her vets 21/2 hours away. She left this world the next night, riding in the Jeep that took her on many adventures and with me by her side. I am sure she felt safe and loved. I would not trade one second with this wonderful little grey cat for all the pain I have felt since she left. Treasure your time. Give your friend the best you can and create a wonderful life for him and wonderful memories for yourself. Others on this list can make recommendations for care. Dixie had both regular and holistic care. Luckily I could/would afford this for her even if other things had to go. And, just as luckily, she loved to travel so getting her this care was very possible. There are a lot of supplements available. Listen to those on this list. Feed him the best possible diet.I really liked Primal Raw and no grain foods. Try to reduce the stress in your friend's life. Dixie had to tolerate living in a home that was being constructed and reconstructed but seemed to adapt wonderfully. Love your little friend with all your heart and let him love you with his. Good luck and blessings to you. On Jul 14, 2008, at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last summer my son brought home a kitten who was between 2 1/2 and 3 weeks old. He found him beside his dead sibling. He was actually in good health. We bought some kitten formula and he drank like a horse. We worked on getting him use to people so that he could eventually get him into a rescue. My daughter who was living with me at the time took her cat in for his regular shots, and took kiwi with her so she could be looked at. I guess kiwi was about 3 months old then. We were very shocked when kiwi came back positive for feline luk. The doctors asked without saying the words if we wanted to put him asleep. We said no. At that point she was and kind of still is a very healthy happy one year old who loves to wrestle with our cocker and would love to play with my daughter's Japanese Bob Tail Cat, but unfortunately we have to keep them separate. The Japanese Bob Tail Cat has been immunized against Feline Luk, but we have also heard that the shot does not offer 100% protection. It's sad because they use to love to play together. We were hoping that in a few months kiwi would come back negative, but he came back positive for the second test. He still is very active, but he has been having trouble with loose bowels. He is also a bit on the thin side. I don't have the money to take him to the vets and we have tried to find him a rescue and or foster home, but right now it doesn't seem like any are available. One thing positive is that we were able to find an organization to neuter him. Now he doesn't spray. Thank God! He is funny sometimes. Some times he gets one of his claws caught in things like curtains, and cat toys. He was trying to catch a fly one day by our back patio window and his nail got caught in the curtain and he couldn't get free. He was scared and somehow got himself wrapped in the curtain. He was so grateful when I freed him. His favorite toy is a 3 inch round black rubber spider. He loves carrying it around in the house. I don't let him play with it unless someone is here with him because I worry about him swallowing it and it getting stuck in his intestines causing a blockage. He also loves laser pointers. She loves chasing the dot on the floor or wall. He loves the little jingle cat balls, or strings. One thing I don't understand is that she enjoys licking our cocker spaniels face. He is such a funny cat. Besides that he loves to check everything out. He is the curious little cat. I would enclose a picture of him but I am new to this site and I don't know if that is allowed. Well, enough for now. I would appreciate advise from anyone on raising a feline luk positive cat. Thanks! Robin Pine
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive
Thanks. She had the best of everything and was very happy and loved. I miss her so much. Right now I am looking at a little 4 week old (?) copper kitten that came from the same pine thicket Dixie came from. After a day of talking, assuring and reassuring her, she allowed me to snatch her up and bring her to the farm. Before you think me awful for taking one so young you need to know there are 5 hawks in the thicket and she would not have survived very long. I think her mother knew that and sent her meowing toward my mother's home. She will be loved and cared for all of her days. This little one was born about the time Dixie was leaving and is a favorite color of Dixie's. This makes things easier. On Jul 15, 2008, at 8:11 AM, Jane Lyons wrote: Marylyn I've been off this list since the server problem. I am so shocked and saddened to hear about Dixie. I know how much you loved her and can imagine how difficult it must be without her. She is so lucky to have felt safe and loved. I am so sorry. Jane On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:08 PM, Marylyn wrote: The first and really only thing I can tell you is to enjoy every minute you have with your wonderful friend while being alert for any infections/problems. Do not get hung up on the FeLV thing. Learn about it but do not let it ruin the time you have with your friend. That time may be long or short, as it may be with any of us. Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, JP enjoyed and I treasure three years with me. She had everything a little cat could want with the possible exception of mice to hunt. She had the best regular and holistic care from the day we found out she was FeLV+. She left this world suddenly after an infection that left her anemic. She was fine one day then two days later we were making a Code Three run to her vets 21/2 hours away. She left this world the next night, riding in the Jeep that took her on many adventures and with me by her side. I am sure she felt safe and loved. I would not trade one second with this wonderful little grey cat for all the pain I have felt since she left. Treasure your time. Give your friend the best you can and create a wonderful life for him and wonderful memories for yourself. Others on this list can make recommendations for care. Dixie had both regular and holistic care. Luckily I could/would afford this for her even if other things had to go. And, just as luckily, she loved to travel so getting her this care was very possible. There are a lot of supplements available. Listen to those on this list. Feed him the best possible diet.I really liked Primal Raw and no grain foods. Try to reduce the stress in your friend's life. Dixie had to tolerate living in a home that was being constructed and reconstructed but seemed to adapt wonderfully. Love your little friend with all your heart and let him love you with his. Good luck and blessings to you. On Jul 14, 2008, at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last summer my son brought home a kitten who was between 2 1/2 and 3 weeks old. He found him beside his dead sibling. He was actually in good health. We bought some kitten formula and he drank like a horse. We worked on getting him use to people so that he could eventually get him into a rescue. My daughter who was living with me at the time took her cat in for his regular shots, and took kiwi with her so she could be looked at. I guess kiwi was about 3 months old then. We were very shocked when kiwi came back positive for feline luk. The doctors asked without saying the words if we wanted to put him asleep. We said no. At that point she was and kind of still is a very healthy happy one year old who loves to wrestle with our cocker and would love to play with my daughter's Japanese Bob Tail Cat, but unfortunately we have to keep them separate. The Japanese Bob Tail Cat has been immunized against Feline Luk, but we have also heard that the shot does not offer 100% protection. It's sad because they use to love to play together. We were hoping that in a few months kiwi would come back negative, but he came back positive for the second test. He still is very active, but he has been having trouble with loose bowels. He is also a bit on the thin side. I don't have the money to take him to the vets and we have tried to find him a rescue and or foster home, but right now it doesn't seem like any are available. One thing positive is that we were able to find an organization to neuter him. Now he doesn't spray. Thank God! He is funny sometimes. Some times he gets one of his claws caught in things like curtains, and cat toys. He was trying to catch a fly one day by our back patio window and his nail got caught in the curtain and he couldn't get free. He was scared and somehow got himself wrapped in the curtain. He was so grateful when I freed him. His favorite toy is a 3 inch round
[Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive
Last summer my son brought home a kitten who was between 2 1/2 and 3 weeks old. He found him beside his dead sibling. He was actually in good health. We bought some kitten formula and he drank like a horse. We worked on getting him use to people so that he could eventually get him into a rescue. My daughter who was living with me at the time took her cat in for his regular shots, and took kiwi with her so she could be looked at. I guess kiwi was about 3 months old then. We were very shocked when kiwi came back positive for feline luk. The doctors asked without saying the words if we wanted to put him asleep. We said no. At that point she was and kind of still is a very healthy happy one year old who loves to wrestle with our cocker and would love to play with my daughter's Japanese Bob Tail Cat, but unfortunately we have to keep them separate. The Japanese Bob Tail Cat has been immunized against Feline Luk, but we have also heard that the shot does not offer 100% protection. It's sad because they use to love to play together. We were hoping that in a few months kiwi would come back negative, but he came back positive for the second test. He still is very active, but he has been having trouble with loose bowels. He is also a bit on the thin side. I don't have the money to take him to the vets and we have tried to find him a rescue and or foster home, but right now it doesn't seem like any are available. One thing positive is that we were able to find an organization to neuter him. Now he doesn't spray. Thank God! He is funny sometimes. Some times he gets one of his claws caught in things like curtains, and cat toys. He was trying to catch a fly one day by our back patio window and his nail got caught in the curtain and he couldn't get free. He was scared and somehow got himself wrapped in the curtain. He was so grateful when I freed him. His favorite toy is a 3 inch round black rubber spider. He loves carrying it around in the house. I don't let him play with it unless someone is here with him because I worry about him swallowing it and it getting stuck in his intestines causing a blockage. He also loves laser pointers. She loves chasing the dot on the floor or wall. He loves the little jingle cat balls, or strings. One thing I don't understand is that she enjoys licking our cocker spaniels face. He is such a funny cat. Besides that he loves to check everything out. He is the curious little cat. I would enclose a picture of him but I am new to this site and I don't know if that is allowed. Well, enough for now. I would appreciate advise from anyone on raising a feline luk positive cat. Thanks! Robin Pine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive
The first and really only thing I can tell you is to enjoy every minute you have with your wonderful friend while being alert for any infections/problems. Do not get hung up on the FeLV thing. Learn about it but do not let it ruin the time you have with your friend. That time may be long or short, as it may be with any of us. Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, JP enjoyed and I treasure three years with me. She had everything a little cat could want with the possible exception of mice to hunt. She had the best regular and holistic care from the day we found out she was FeLV+. She left this world suddenly after an infection that left her anemic. She was fine one day then two days later we were making a Code Three run to her vets 21/2 hours away. She left this world the next night, riding in the Jeep that took her on many adventures and with me by her side. I am sure she felt safe and loved. I would not trade one second with this wonderful little grey cat for all the pain I have felt since she left. Treasure your time. Give your friend the best you can and create a wonderful life for him and wonderful memories for yourself. Others on this list can make recommendations for care. Dixie had both regular and holistic care. Luckily I could/would afford this for her even if other things had to go. And, just as luckily, she loved to travel so getting her this care was very possible. There are a lot of supplements available. Listen to those on this list. Feed him the best possible diet.I really liked Primal Raw and no grain foods. Try to reduce the stress in your friend's life. Dixie had to tolerate living in a home that was being constructed and reconstructed but seemed to adapt wonderfully. Love your little friend with all your heart and let him love you with his. Good luck and blessings to you. On Jul 14, 2008, at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last summer my son brought home a kitten who was between 2 1/2 and 3 weeks old. He found him beside his dead sibling. He was actually in good health. We bought some kitten formula and he drank like a horse. We worked on getting him use to people so that he could eventually get him into a rescue. My daughter who was living with me at the time took her cat in for his regular shots, and took kiwi with her so she could be looked at. I guess kiwi was about 3 months old then. We were very shocked when kiwi came back positive for feline luk. The doctors asked without saying the words if we wanted to put him asleep. We said no. At that point she was and kind of still is a very healthy happy one year old who loves to wrestle with our cocker and would love to play with my daughter's Japanese Bob Tail Cat, but unfortunately we have to keep them separate. The Japanese Bob Tail Cat has been immunized against Feline Luk, but we have also heard that the shot does not offer 100% protection. It's sad because they use to love to play together. We were hoping that in a few months kiwi would come back negative, but he came back positive for the second test. He still is very active, but he has been having trouble with loose bowels. He is also a bit on the thin side. I don't have the money to take him to the vets and we have tried to find him a rescue and or foster home, but right now it doesn't seem like any are available. One thing positive is that we were able to find an organization to neuter him. Now he doesn't spray. Thank God! He is funny sometimes. Some times he gets one of his claws caught in things like curtains, and cat toys. He was trying to catch a fly one day by our back patio window and his nail got caught in the curtain and he couldn't get free. He was scared and somehow got himself wrapped in the curtain. He was so grateful when I freed him. His favorite toy is a 3 inch round black rubber spider. He loves carrying it around in the house. I don't let him play with it unless someone is here with him because I worry about him swallowing it and it getting stuck in his intestines causing a blockage. He also loves laser pointers. She loves chasing the dot on the floor or wall. He loves the little jingle cat balls, or strings. One thing I don't understand is that she enjoys licking our cocker spaniels face. He is such a funny cat. Besides that he loves to check everything out. He is the curious little cat. I would enclose a picture of him but I am new to this site and I don't know if that is allowed. Well, enough for now. I would appreciate advise from anyone on raising a feline luk positive cat. Thanks! Robin Pine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing
