Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

2008-09-30 Thread catatonya
Robyn,
   
  You and Kiwi are in my thoughts and prayers.
  tonya

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  I have not posted for a while about kiwi. I think the last one I told you 
that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan. He never did. Before that 
I tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings. I 
have no funds to get him to vet. Sad to say, kiwi is really sick. He is unable 
to keep food down. He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat. I gave him 
just a little wet food, and he through it all up. He does drink a little water. 
I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10 minutes 
to see if he can keep it down. He used his kitty litter in the last day or so. 
Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food. He didn't throw it up, 
but he had diarrhea and he was bony. He was always full of energy. I can't let 
him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter and explain the 
situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep. I don't want to do 
this, but I don't want him to suffer
 anymore. To you who have not read my earlier postings, I did not adopt kiwi, 
my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling. He 
bought him home and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and 
kitten food. He thrived. My daughter who has another cat took her's to a 
regular vet visit, but de sided to take kiwi also. (this one time) Sadly, Kiwi 
came out positive for feline leukemia. We checked him about when he was about 7 
or 8 months old, and again he came back positive. We new that we would not be 
able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue. None of them were 
able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat. We live in Fairfax County 
Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him. So we did the 
best we could for him, but it wasn't enough. I don't blame anyone. It's just 
how it is. It's just so hard when your hands are tied. Well, I better go for 
now. I will let you know what happened. Bye, Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

2008-09-29 Thread wendy
Robin,
 
My heart goes out to little Kiwi, and to your family as well.  It's never easy.
 
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

I have not posted for a while about kiwi.  I think the last one I told you that 
my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan.  He never did.  Before that I 
tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings.  I 
have no funds to get him to vet.  Sad to say, kiwi is really sick.  He is 
unable to keep food down.  He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat.  I 
gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up.  He does drink a 
little water.  I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 
5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down.  He used his kitty litter in the 
last day or so.  Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food.  He 
didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony.  He was always full of 
energy.  I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a 
shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to 
sleep.  I don't want
 to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore.  To you who have not read 
my earlier postings,  I did not adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 
2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling.  He bought him home and we did our usual 
thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food.  He thrived.  My daughter 
who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided to take 
kiwi also.  (this one time)  Sadly, Kiwi came out positive for feline 
leukemia.  We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, and again 
he came back positive.  We new that we would not be able to afford to pay a vet 
so we tried to find a rescue.  None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia 
positive kitten/cat.  We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large 
county, but no one could take him.  So we did the best we could for him, but it 
wasn't enough.  I don't blame anyone.  It's just how it is.  It's just so hard 
when your hands are
 tied.  Well, I better go for now.  I will let you know what happened.  Bye, 
Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - sad

2008-09-29 Thread wendy
Robin,
 
Sharyl gave you great info.  The babyfood worked wonders with one of my kitties 
who had issues with her stomach so bad she stopped eating.  I thought we were 
going to lose her, but more than twice she came through with the help of the 
baby food, pepcid ac, and chicken broth and boiled chicken.  Make sure she is 
getting fluids.  Dehydration makes kitties feel horrible.  Syringing several 
drops or more every hour or so may help.
 
Keep us posted, 
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - sad

Tried to give Kiwi a little canned pumpkin.  He tried to ignore it, but I put a 
tiny bit in his mouth and he became a little interested.  He ate a tiny bit 
more on his own then he stopped.  I am going to wait 30 minutes to make sure he 
can keep it down.  I am not sure what to look for.  I guess maybe for his 
appetite to return eventually.  I just wish I could afford to take him to a vet 
to see exactly what is going on with him.  Anyway, I'll let you know how things 
are coming along soon.  Thanks!  Bye, Robin

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[Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

2008-09-28 Thread r_pine
I have not posted for a while about kiwi.  I think the last one I told you that 
my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan.  He never did.  Before that I 
tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings.  I 
have no funds to get him to vet.  Sad to say, kiwi is really sick.  He is 
unable to keep food down.  He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat.  I 
gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up.  He does drink a 
little water.  I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 
5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down.  He used his kitty litter in the 
last day or so.  Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food.  He 
didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony.   He was always full 
of energy.  I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a 
shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to 
sleep.  I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore.   To 
you who have not read my earlier postings,  I did not adopt kiwi, my son found 
him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling.  He bought him home 
and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food.  He 
thrived.   My daughter who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, 
but de sided to take kiwi also.  (this one time)  Sadly, Kiwi came out positive 
for feline leukemia.  We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, 
and again he came back positive.  We new that we would not be able to afford to 
pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue.  None of them were able to take a 
Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat.   We live in Fairfax County Virginia, 
which is a large county, but no one could take him.  So we did the best we 
could for him, but it wasn't enough.  I don't blame anyone.  It's just how it 
is.  It's just so hard when your hands are tied.  Well, I better go for now.  I 
will let you know what happened.   Bye, Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

2008-09-28 Thread Gloria Lane
I know it's a difficult situation, but there are rescues and rescuers  
that take FELV cats/kittens.  And if he chooses to keep him, would be  
such a gift.  What I do to boost the immune system - and it works well  
- is to give 1cc interferon once daily to my FELV kitties that are  
less than 3 -4 years old.  Different vet sell interferon alpha for  
different amounts  of $$.   I shopped around and found a vet who would  
sell me a big supply that lasts several months, for $15.  I buy it  
from him, mix it as instructed, and freeze it in small containers, so  
that I can get it and unfreeze as needed. I give 1cc daily with a 3cc  
syringe.

Best of luck,

Gloria


On Sep 28, 2008, at 8:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have not posted for a while about kiwi.  I think the last one I  
 told you that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan.  He  
 never did.  Before that I tried to find a rescue who would take him,  
 but there wasn't any openings.  I have no funds to get him to vet.   
 Sad to say, kiwi is really sick.  He is unable to keep food down.   
 He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat.  I gave him just a  
 little wet food, and he through it all up.  He does drink a little  
 water.  I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will  
 take 5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down.  He used his  
 kitty litter in the last day or so.  Before all this, he ate a lot  
 of his favorite cat food.  He didn't throw it up, but he had  
 diarrhea and he was bony.   He was always full of energy.  I can't  
 let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter  
 and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to  
 sleep.  I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer  
 anymore.   To you who have not read my earlier postings,  I did not  
 adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near  
 his did sibling.  He bought him home and we did our usual thing and  
 gave him kitten formula and kitten food.  He thrived.   My daughter  
 who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided  
 to take kiwi also.  (this one time)  Sadly, Kiwi came out positive  
 for feline leukemia.  We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8  
 months old, and again he came back positive.  We new that we would  
 not be able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue.   
 None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/ 
 cat.   We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large county,  
 but no one could take him.  So we did the best we could for him, but  
 it wasn't enough.  I don't blame anyone.  It's just how it is.  It's  
 just so hard when your hands are tied.  Well, I better go for now.   
 I will let you know what happened.   Bye, Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

2008-09-28 Thread Sharyl
Robin, I don't know if Kiwi is crashing from the FeLV or for another reason.  I 
understand you are limited with funds.  One idea would be to feed him meat baby 
food (no onion or garlic).  Gerbers 2 Chicken and Gravy is a favorite in our 
house.  If he can't eat it on his own you can assist feed him with a syringe.  
I got 10 cc syringes in the baby section at the drug store.  The pharmacists 
may just give you a few syringes.  Notice I said assist feed not force feed.  
It is a state of mind.  You are assisting Kiwi to eat.  There is a great Yahoo 
Assist Feeding group that you can join.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
A kitty who isn't eating has less desire to eat, especially a kitty who has 
been throwing up.
 
Original Strength Pepcid AC (not any of the other versions of Pepcid) or 
Famotidine, the generic version helps with stomach acid.  I'd try 1/4 of a 10 
mg tablet once a day to see if it helps.  I crush it, dissolve it in a little 
water, add it to the baby food and syringe it to my cats. 
 
You could try adding some peas or squash baby food to his food for the 
diarrhea.  Canned pumpkin (not pie filling) works too.  Usually 1/2 tsp with 
every feeding.  Slippery Elm Bark, which is found in health food stores, is one 
of those good for everything supplements.   It is a powder that can be added to 
food or dissolved in water and syringed. SEB helps nausea, diarrhea and 
constipation.
 
Just wanted to put some ideas out there on how you could make Kiwi more 
comfortable.
Sharyl

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:57 AM

I have not posted for a while about kiwi.  I think the last one I told you that
my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan.  He never did.  Before that I
tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings.  I
have no funds to get him to vet.  Sad to say, kiwi is really sick.  He is unable
to keep food down.  He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat.  I gave
him just a little wet food, and he through it all up.  He does drink a little
water.  I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10
minutes to see if he can keep it down.  He used his kitty litter in the last day
or so.  Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food.  He didn't
throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony.   He was always full of
energy.  I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a
shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep.
 I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore.   To
you who have not read my earlier postings,  I did not adopt kiwi, my son found
him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling.  He bought him home
and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food.  He
thrived.   My daughter who has another cat took her's to a regular vet
visit, but de sided to take kiwi also.  (this one time)  Sadly, Kiwi came out
positive for feline leukemia.  We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8
months old, and again he came back positive.  We new that we would not be able
to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue.  None of them were able to
take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat.   We live in Fairfax County
Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him.  So we did the
best we could for him, but it wasn't enough.  I don't blame anyone. 
It's just how it is.  It's just so hard when your hands are tied.  Well,
I better go for now.  I will let you know what happened.   Bye, Robin

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[Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

2008-09-28 Thread r_pine
He has been able to keep a few flakes of canned tuna down, and he is drinking.  
I think that I have a can of plain pumpkin and I am going to try giving him a 
little bit.   What ever I give him I just want to give him a little at a time.  
To much might be to much for his system to handle right now.  I will get back 
to you after I try the pumpkin.  Thanks!  Bye, Robin

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[Felvtalk] Kiwi - sad

2008-09-28 Thread r_pine
Tried to give Kiwi a little canned pumpkin.  He tried to ignore it, but I put a 
tiny bit in his mouth and he became a little interested.  He ate a tiny bit 
more on his own then he stopped.   I am going to wait 30 minutes to make sure 
he can keep it down.  I am not sure what to look for.  I guess maybe for his 
appetite to return eventually.  I just wish I could afford to take him to a vet 
to see exactly what is going on with him.  Anyway, I'll let you know how things 
are coming along soon.  Thanks!  Bye, Robin

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