Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Jetty Dijkshoorn]

I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your furry friends. Luckily my
suspected FELV sweetheart Dolce is doing really well at this moment. He
went from very lethargic with pale gums and nose to a lively guy with the
help of 1 tablet of prednisolon every other day. I am very much interested
in starting with Winstrol to help his RBC go further up but not sure
whether I have to stop using the prednisolon or use both of them
together.We live in the Netherlands and I already found out that I can buy
the 2 mg tablets in an online shop for a reasonable price.
I want to thank all the members of this forum for all your stories and
advises. There is not much knowledge here about FELV and it is very common
to put cats to sleep after very uncertain snaptest diagnosyses. So glad
that thanks to your encouraging advises he is still a very happy cat.
Although I am a bit concerned about a lump he developed under his left eye.
It does not seem to bother him but I hope it does not grow any further.

Jetty an Dolce



2015-11-19 2:16 GMT+01:00 Jane Gannon <strayc...@roadrunner.com>:

> Do I just keep him on this indefinetely?  Do I have to keep having his
> blood tested, how often?  How long did this help your cat?  Do you still
> have this cat?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 10:38 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> Hi Jane
>
>
>
> Speak with your vet. He probably uses a compounding pharmacy for other
> types of medication. This is where my vet gets Winstrol. Our vet can get
> the Winstrol in 2 strengths: 2 mg and 1 mg tablets. They are hard to cut in
> half, but for a long time, that is what I had to do since originally the
> compounding pharmacy only had the 2 mg size tablets. The tablets are very
> small and powdery when split, and dissolve very quickly with very little
> moisture. Therefore, it made life a lot easier when the compounding
> pharmacy started providing 1 mg sized tablets. If you can only get 2 mg
> tablets, you also have the option of just giving them once a day, but I
> think it is better to give 1 mg, 2 times a day.
>
>
>
> I have no idea where you are located or how big the compounding pharmacy
> is that my vet uses, but it is called Chiron. (I’m in Ontario, Canada, and
> I think this compounding pharmacy is located close to Guelph Ontario, near
> the vet college there).
>
>
>
> Definitely start your cat on the Winstrol as soon as possible. I have also
> found Winstrol helpful in a cat I highly suspected of having FIP. She is
> fine now.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Jane Gannon
> *Sent:* November-17-15 11:54 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
>
>
> I have had the worst nightmare happen to me.  I have a large cat family, I
> used to work at a cat rescue organization and I also help any cats that
> show up at my door.  Last year one of my two outdoor cats started to loose
> weight.  He was 12 so I thought maybe kidney or  hyperthyroid.  He started
> having anisocoria (one pupil lager than the other) and then I noticed  3
> other cats with the same thing. I researched online and found that it can
> happen to FELV+ cats.  So I took them all to the vet and found out they
> were positive.  I then took the rest of my cat family and found out I had a
> total of 10 positives and  12 negatives.  I vacinated the negatives and am
> letting them all live together.  Since that time I have lost 5. Two older
> ones actually died from kidney disease, I had to euthanise my son's 2 two
> year olds cats, one developed FIP and the other ended up getting
> neurological problems until he could no longer walk.  I euthanised one that
> was having difficulty breathing and was no longer eating.  So I searched
> for a group that was going through the same thing so maybe I could learn
> about what can be done.  Grayson, who is positive, is now loosing weight.
> He is 12 so I hoped maybe kidney or hyperthyroid so I had his blood tested
> and he does not have either.  He is starting to have the sylmptoms of
> FELV.  His hematocrit is 19 and he also has an abcess on his face that
> doesn't want to heal.  He is acting like his old self and eating well.
> I know my vet would not have a problem using winstrol, he has always worked
> with me.   Where would he get it from?  Should I start it now before he
> gets worse.
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* kat <merrykatme...@email.com>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:22 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Ardy Robertson]

I am so very sorry…….

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya 
D'Alessio
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

 

Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support over 
the month, it has been incredible. 

On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net <mailto:dlg...@windstream.net> 
> wrote:

They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed and 
stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not 
know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot 
not be concerned.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net <mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote:
> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces loving
> and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when he
> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he felt
> safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of
> Lorrie
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable about
> cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net <mailto:dlg...@windstream.net>  wrote:
>
> > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> >
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Jane

Speak with your vet. He probably uses a compounding pharmacy for other types of 
medication. This is where my vet gets Winstrol. Our vet can get the Winstrol in 
2 strengths: 2 mg and 1 mg tablets. They are hard to cut in half, but for a 
long time, that is what I had to do since originally the compounding pharmacy 
only had the 2 mg size tablets. The tablets are very small and powdery when 
split, and dissolve very quickly with very little moisture. Therefore, it made 
life a lot easier when the compounding pharmacy started providing 1 mg sized 
tablets. If you can only get 2 mg tablets, you also have the option of just 
giving them once a day, but I think it is better to give 1 mg, 2 times a day.

I have no idea where you are located or how big the compounding pharmacy is 
that my vet uses, but it is called Chiron. (I’m in Ontario, Canada, and I think 
this compounding pharmacy is located close to Guelph Ontario, near the vet 
college there).

Definitely start your cat on the Winstrol as soon as possible. I have also 
found Winstrol helpful in a cat I highly suspected of having FIP. She is fine 
now.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane 
Gannon
Sent: November-17-15 11:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

I have had the worst nightmare happen to me.  I have a large cat family, I used 
to work at a cat rescue organization and I also help any cats that show up at 
my door.  Last year one of my two outdoor cats started to loose weight.  He was 
12 so I thought maybe kidney or  hyperthyroid.  He started having anisocoria 
(one pupil lager than the other) and then I noticed  3 other cats with the same 
thing. I researched online and found that it can happen to FELV+ cats.  So I 
took them all to the vet and found out they were positive.  I then took the 
rest of my cat family and found out I had a total of 10 positives and  12 
negatives.  I vacinated the negatives and am letting them all live together.  
Since that time I have lost 5. Two older ones actually died from kidney 
disease, I had to euthanise my son's 2 two year olds cats, one developed FIP 
and the other ended up getting neurological problems until he could no longer 
walk.  I euthanised one that was having difficulty breathing and was no longer 
eating.  So I searched for a group that was going through the same thing so 
maybe I could learn about what can be done.  Grayson, who is positive, is now 
loosing weight.  He is 12 so I hoped maybe kidney or hyperthyroid so I had his 
blood tested and he does not have either.  He is starting to have the sylmptoms 
of FELV.  His hematocrit is 19 and he also has an abcess on his face that 
doesn't want to heal.  He is acting like his old self and eating well.  I know 
my vet would not have a problem using winstrol, he has always worked with me.   
Where would he get it from?  Should I start it now before he gets worse.
- Original Message -
From: kat<mailto:merrykatme...@email.com>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Maya - I am so sorry for your loss.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:59 AM
From: "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com<mailto:mde...@gmail.com>>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support over 
the month, it has been incredible.
On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed and 
stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not 
know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot 
not be concerned.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces loving
> and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when he
> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he felt
> safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lorrie
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> You got that right! I can tell they hate it th

Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Jane Gannon]

Do I just keep him on this indefinetely?  Do I have to keep having his blood 
tested, how often?  How long did this help your cat?  Do you still have this 
cat?
  - Original Message -
  From: Amani Oakley
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 10:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes


  Hi Jane



  Speak with your vet. He probably uses a compounding pharmacy for other types 
of medication. This is where my vet gets Winstrol. Our vet can get the Winstrol 
in 2 strengths: 2 mg and 1 mg tablets. They are hard to cut in half, but for a 
long time, that is what I had to do since originally the compounding pharmacy 
only had the 2 mg size tablets. The tablets are very small and powdery when 
split, and dissolve very quickly with very little moisture. Therefore, it made 
life a lot easier when the compounding pharmacy started providing 1 mg sized 
tablets. If you can only get 2 mg tablets, you also have the option of just 
giving them once a day, but I think it is better to give 1 mg, 2 times a day.



  I have no idea where you are located or how big the compounding pharmacy is 
that my vet uses, but it is called Chiron. (I’m in Ontario, Canada, and I think 
this compounding pharmacy is located close to Guelph Ontario, near the vet 
college there).



  Definitely start your cat on the Winstrol as soon as possible. I have also 
found Winstrol helpful in a cat I highly suspected of having FIP. She is fine 
now.



  Amani



  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane 
Gannon
  Sent: November-17-15 11:54 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes



  I have had the worst nightmare happen to me.  I have a large cat family, I 
used to work at a cat rescue organization and I also help any cats that show up 
at my door.  Last year one of my two outdoor cats started to loose weight.  He 
was 12 so I thought maybe kidney or  hyperthyroid.  He started having 
anisocoria (one pupil lager than the other) and then I noticed  3 other cats 
with the same thing. I researched online and found that it can happen to FELV+ 
cats.  So I took them all to the vet and found out they were positive.  I then 
took the rest of my cat family and found out I had a total of 10 positives and  
12 negatives.  I vacinated the negatives and am letting them all live together. 
 Since that time I have lost 5. Two older ones actually died from kidney 
disease, I had to euthanise my son's 2 two year olds cats, one developed FIP 
and the other ended up getting neurological problems until he could no longer 
walk.  I euthanised one that was having difficulty breathing and was no longer 
eating.  So I searched for a group that was going through the same thing so 
maybe I could learn about what can be done.  Grayson, who is positive, is now 
loosing weight.  He is 12 so I hoped maybe kidney or hyperthyroid so I had his 
blood tested and he does not have either.  He is starting to have the sylmptoms 
of FELV.  His hematocrit is 19 and he also has an abcess on his face that 
doesn't want to heal.  He is acting like his old self and eating well.  I know 
my vet would not have a problem using winstrol, he has always worked with me.   
Where would he get it from?  Should I start it now before he gets worse.

- Original Message -

From: kat

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes



Maya - I am so sorry for your loss.



Kat (Mew Jersey)



Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:59 AM
From: "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
    Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support 
over the month, it has been incredible.

On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:

They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed 
and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not 
know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot 
not be concerned.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces 
loving
> and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when 
he
> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he 
felt
> safer being near his "mommy and dadd

Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Maya D'Alessio]

Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support
over the month, it has been incredible.
On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:

> They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed
> and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will
> not know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I
> cannot not be concerned.
>
>  Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> > little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> > actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> > what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces
> loving
> > and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when
> he
> > was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> > dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> > the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he
> felt
> > safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > Lorrie
> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
> >
> > You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
> about
> > cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
> >
> > On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> >
> > > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> > > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> > >
> >
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[Christine Dundas]

Maya
So sorry for your loss.  Prayers and thoughts are with you.  You were a
wonderful caretaker, compassionate and caring.

Christine
On Nov 17, 2015 7:59 AM, "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support
> over the month, it has been incredible.
> On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed
>> and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will
>> not know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I
>> cannot not be concerned.
>>
>>  Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>> > I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
>> > little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
>> > actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
>> > what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces
>> loving
>> > and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger,
>> when he
>> > was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the
>> night,
>> > dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up
>> on
>> > the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he
>> felt
>> > safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > Lorrie
>> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>> >
>> > You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
>> about
>> > cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>> >
>> > Lorrie
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
>> >
>> > > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
>> > > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
>> > >
>> >
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[kat]

Maya - I am so sorry for your loss. 

 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

 

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:59 AM
From: "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes


Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support over the month, it has been incredible.

On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:

They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot not be concerned.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces loving
> and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when he
> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he felt
> safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lorrie
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable about
> cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
>
> > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> >
>
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[swacht1946]

I’m so very sorry – life just isn’t the same 

From: Christine Dundas 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:20 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Maya 
So sorry for your loss.  Prayers and thoughts are with you.  You were a 
wonderful caretaker, compassionate and caring.

Christine 

On Nov 17, 2015 7:59 AM, "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support over 
the month, it has been incredible. 

  On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:

They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed 
and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not 
know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot 
not be concerned.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces 
loving
> and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when 
he
> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he 
felt
> safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lorrie
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable about
> cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
>
> > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Jane Gannon]

Sorry about Merlot.  You did everything you could.
  - Original Message -
  From: swacht1...@comcast.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes


  I’m so very sorry – life just isn’t the same

  From: Christine Dundas
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:20 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

  Maya
  So sorry for your loss.  Prayers and thoughts are with you.  You were a 
wonderful caretaker, compassionate and caring.

  Christine

  On Nov 17, 2015 7:59 AM, "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com> wrote:

Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support 
over the month, it has been incredible.

On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:

  They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed 
and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not 
know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot 
not be concerned.

   Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
  > I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
  > little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
  > actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
  > what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces 
loving
  > and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, 
when he
  > was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the 
night,
  > dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up 
on
  > the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he 
felt
  > safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
  >
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  > Lorrie
  > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
  > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
  >
  > You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable 
about
  > cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
  >
  > Lorrie
  >
  >
  > On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  >
  > > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
  > > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
  > >
  >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Kelley S]

I'm so sorry for your loss.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jane Gannon <strayc...@roadrunner.com>
wrote:

> Sorry about Merlot.  You did everything you could.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* swacht1...@comcast.net
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> I’m so very sorry – life just isn’t the same
>
> *From:* Christine Dundas <christinedun...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:20 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
>
> Maya
> So sorry for your loss.  Prayers and thoughts are with you.  You were a
> wonderful caretaker, compassionate and caring.
>
> Christine
> On Nov 17, 2015 7:59 AM, "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support
>> over the month, it has been incredible.
>> On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>> They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed
>>> and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will
>>> not know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I
>>> cannot not be concerned.
>>>
>>>  Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>> > I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe
>>> every
>>> > little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
>>> > actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works
>>> and
>>> > what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces
>>> loving
>>> > and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger,
>>> when he
>>> > was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the
>>> night,
>>> > dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up
>>> on
>>> > the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where
>>> he felt
>>> > safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> > Lorrie
>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
>>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>>> >
>>> > You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
>>> about
>>> > cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>>> >
>>> > Lorrie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
>>> > > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
>>> > >
>>> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Jane Gannon]

I have had the worst nightmare happen to me.  I have a large cat family, I used 
to work at a cat rescue organization and I also help any cats that show up at 
my door.  Last year one of my two outdoor cats started to loose weight.  He was 
12 so I thought maybe kidney or  hyperthyroid.  He started having anisocoria 
(one pupil lager than the other) and then I noticed  3 other cats with the same 
thing. I researched online and found that it can happen to FELV+ cats.  So I 
took them all to the vet and found out they were positive.  I then took the 
rest of my cat family and found out I had a total of 10 positives and  12 
negatives.  I vacinated the negatives and am letting them all live together.  
Since that time I have lost 5. Two older ones actually died from kidney 
disease, I had to euthanise my son's 2 two year olds cats, one developed FIP 
and the other ended up getting neurological problems until he could no longer 
walk.  I euthanised one that was having difficulty breathing and was no longer 
eating.  So I searched for a group that was going through the same thing so 
maybe I could learn about what can be done.  Grayson, who is positive, is now 
loosing weight.  He is 12 so I hoped maybe kidney or hyperthyroid so I had his 
blood tested and he does not have either.  He is starting to have the sylmptoms 
of FELV.  His hematocrit is 19 and he also has an abcess on his face that 
doesn't want to heal.  He is acting like his old self and eating well.  I know 
my vet would not have a problem using winstrol, he has always worked with me.   
Where would he get it from?  Should I start it now before he gets worse.
  - Original Message -
  From: kat
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes


  Maya - I am so sorry for your loss.

  Kat (Mew Jersey)

  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:59 AM
  From: "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com>
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
  Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support over 
the month, it has been incredible.

  On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed 
and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not 
know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot 
not be concerned.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces 
loving
> and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when 
he
> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he 
felt
> safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lorrie
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable about
> cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
>
> > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[dlgegg]

Others know better than I about where to get it, but I will addyou and your 
kitties to my prayer list.

 Jane Gannon <strayc...@roadrunner.com> wrote: 
> I have had the worst nightmare happen to me.  I have a large cat family, I 
> used to work at a cat rescue organization and I also help any cats that show 
> up at my door.  Last year one of my two outdoor cats started to loose weight. 
>  He was 12 so I thought maybe kidney or  hyperthyroid.  He started having 
> anisocoria (one pupil lager than the other) and then I noticed  3 other cats 
> with the same thing. I researched online and found that it can happen to 
> FELV+ cats.  So I took them all to the vet and found out they were positive.  
> I then took the rest of my cat family and found out I had a total of 10 
> positives and  12 negatives.  I vacinated the negatives and am letting them 
> all live together.  Since that time I have lost 5. Two older ones actually 
> died from kidney disease, I had to euthanise my son's 2 two year olds cats, 
> one developed FIP and the other ended up getting neurological problems until 
> he could no longer walk.  I euthanised one that was having difficulty 
> breathing 
 and was no longer eating.  So I searched for a group that was going through 
the same thing so maybe I could learn about what can be done.  Grayson, who is 
positive, is now loosing weight.  He is 12 so I hoped maybe kidney or 
hyperthyroid so I had his blood tested and he does not have either.  He is 
starting to have the sylmptoms of FELV.  His hematocrit is 19 and he also has 
an abcess on his face that doesn't want to heal.  He is acting like his old 
self and eating well.  I know my vet would not have a problem using winstrol, 
he has always worked with me.   Where would he get it from?  Should I start it 
now before he gets worse.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: kat
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:22 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
> 
> 
>   Maya - I am so sorry for your loss.
> 
>   Kat (Mew Jersey)
> 
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:59 AM
>   From: "Maya D'Alessio" <mde...@gmail.com>
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>   Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support 
> over the month, it has been incredible.
> 
>   On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
> They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed 
> and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will 
> not know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I 
> cannot not be concerned.
> 
>  Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> > little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> > actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> > what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces 
> loving
> > and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, 
> when he
> > was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the 
> night,
> > dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up 
> on
> > the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he 
> felt
> > safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
> >
> >
>     > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > Lorrie
> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
> >
> > You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable 
> about
> > cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
> >
> > On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> >
> > > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> > > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> > >
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Ardy Robertson]

I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces loving
and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when he
was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he felt
safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable about
cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.

Lorrie


On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us. 
> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Ardy Robertson]

I will pray for you and Merlot, hopefully you can get some water into him. It 
sounds like the Winstrol might help him.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya 
D'Alessio
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:15 PM
To: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

 

Merlot has taken a turn for the worse. He's having trouble breathing, a bit 
dehydrated, not interested in food, and the vet thought she felt a lump in his 
abdomen. We might have to make a hard choice tomorrow. I want to give him the 
night to see if he improves at all.

 

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net 
<mailto:toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> > wrote:


I always feel lucky that I have a Vet who will listen to me. I figure that when 
I go in, I have had the time to really evaluate the pet, know pretty well 
what's going on, and have had the opportunity to research the possibilities for 
that one critter. I'm not dealing with multiple species and patients. I can 
focus. I like it when she also has input, and I think that together, we are 
better than either of us alone. Since the lymph node incident, we have found a 
way to get where we want to go in the best way possible. Recently my Vet found 
an off-label use for a new flea/tick med that saved my new dog from daily doses 
of a pretty toxic drug. I didn't know about it. And I am now trying to 
introduce her to Zeutering, which is a form of chemical castration that I am 
considering.

Of course, there are times...:)

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com <mailto:felineres...@frontier.com> >
>Sent: Nov 15, 2015 10:01 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>

>You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
>about cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>
>Lorrie
>
>
>On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net <mailto:dlg...@windstream.net>  wrote:
>
>> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
>> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
>>
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[dlgegg]

They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed and 
stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will not 
know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I cannot 
not be concerned.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces loving
> and observing.. and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when he
> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he felt
> safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Lorrie
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
> 
> You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable about
> cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
> On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> 
> > Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us. 
> > Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Lorrie]

You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
about cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.

Lorrie


On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us. 
> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Margo]

I always feel lucky that I have a Vet who will listen to me. I figure that when 
I go in, I have had the time to really evaluate the pet, know pretty well 
what's going on, and have had the opportunity to research the possibilities for 
that one critter. I'm not dealing with multiple species and patients. I can 
focus. I like it when she also has input, and I think that together, we are 
better than either of us alone. Since the lymph node incident, we have found a 
way to get where we want to go in the best way possible. Recently my Vet found 
an off-label use for a new flea/tick med that saved my new dog from daily doses 
of a pretty toxic drug. I didn't know about it. And I am now trying to 
introduce her to Zeutering, which is a form of chemical castration that I am 
considering.

Of course, there are times...:)

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
>Sent: Nov 15, 2015 10:01 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
>You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
>about cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>
>Lorrie
>
>
>On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
>
>> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us. 
>> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Maya D'Alessio]

Merlot has taken a turn for the worse. He's having trouble breathing, a bit
dehydrated, not interested in food, and the vet thought she felt a lump in
his abdomen. We might have to make a hard choice tomorrow. I want to give
him the night to see if he improves at all.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
> I always feel lucky that I have a Vet who will listen to me. I figure that
> when I go in, I have had the time to really evaluate the pet, know pretty
> well what's going on, and have had the opportunity to research the
> possibilities for that one critter. I'm not dealing with multiple species
> and patients. I can focus. I like it when she also has input, and I think
> that together, we are better than either of us alone. Since the lymph node
> incident, we have found a way to get where we want to go in the best way
> possible. Recently my Vet found an off-label use for a new flea/tick med
> that saved my new dog from daily doses of a pretty toxic drug. I didn't
> know about it. And I am now trying to introduce her to Zeutering, which is
> a form of chemical castration that I am considering.
>
> Of course, there are times...:)
>
> Margo
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
> >Sent: Nov 15, 2015 10:01 AM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
> >
> >You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
> >about cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
> >
> >Lorrie
> >
> >
> >On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> >
> >> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> >> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> >>
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Amani Oakley]

Maya

I once again have to suggest that you put your foot down and demand the 
Winstrol. Obviously, and not surprisingly, what the vets are giving you is not 
working. The choice is yours but I would not give up without first trying the 
Winstrol. It sounds like his blood cells are very low, and as I have been 
saying all along, you need something to boost them. Ignore the lump in the 
abdomen. This will not be what takes him from you. It is the difficulty 
breathing which may indicate that his red cells/haemoglobin has dropped to the 
point where he is having trouble transporting sufficient oxygen. My Zander had 
to be put in an oxygen tent when this happened to him, until he got a blood 
transfusion.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya 
D'Alessio
Sent: November-15-15 3:15 PM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Merlot has taken a turn for the worse. He's having trouble breathing, a bit 
dehydrated, not interested in food, and the vet thought she felt a lump in his 
abdomen. We might have to make a hard choice tomorrow. I want to give him the 
night to see if he improves at all.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Margo 
<toomanykitti...@earthlink.net<mailto:toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

I always feel lucky that I have a Vet who will listen to me. I figure that when 
I go in, I have had the time to really evaluate the pet, know pretty well 
what's going on, and have had the opportunity to research the possibilities for 
that one critter. I'm not dealing with multiple species and patients. I can 
focus. I like it when she also has input, and I think that together, we are 
better than either of us alone. Since the lymph node incident, we have found a 
way to get where we want to go in the best way possible. Recently my Vet found 
an off-label use for a new flea/tick med that saved my new dog from daily doses 
of a pretty toxic drug. I didn't know about it. And I am now trying to 
introduce her to Zeutering, which is a form of chemical castration that I am 
considering.

Of course, there are times...:)

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com<mailto:felineres...@frontier.com>>
>Sent: Nov 15, 2015 10:01 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
>You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
>about cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>
>Lorrie
>
>
>On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net<mailto:dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
>> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
>>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[dlgegg]

My prayers are with you and Merlot.

 Anna Summers <a...@amproductionslocations.com> wrote: 
> my thoughts are with you .
> 
> On 15 Nov 2015, at 12:14, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
> 
> > Merlot has taken a turn for the worse. He's having trouble breathing, a bit 
> > dehydrated, not interested in food, and the vet thought she felt a lump in 
> > his abdomen. We might have to make a hard choice tomorrow. I want to give 
> > him the night to see if he improves at all.
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I always feel lucky that I have a Vet who will listen to me. I figure that 
> > when I go in, I have had the time to really evaluate the pet, know pretty 
> > well what's going on, and have had the opportunity to research the 
> > possibilities for that one critter. I'm not dealing with multiple species 
> > and patients. I can focus. I like it when she also has input, and I think 
> > that together, we are better than either of us alone. Since the lymph node 
> > incident, we have found a way to get where we want to go in the best way 
> > possible. Recently my Vet found an off-label use for a new flea/tick med 
> > that saved my new dog from daily doses of a pretty toxic drug. I didn't 
> > know about it. And I am now trying to introduce her to Zeutering, which is 
> > a form of chemical castration that I am considering.
> > 
> > Of course, there are times...:)
> > 
> > Margo
> > 
> > -----Original Message-
> > >From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
> > >Sent: Nov 15, 2015 10:01 AM
> > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
> > >
> > >You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
> > >about cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
> > >
> > >Lorrie
> > >
> > >
> > >On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> > >
> > >> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> > >> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> > >>
> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Jane Gannon]

When should a cat be put on Winstrol?  How low should the RBC count be?  How 
long does it help and how long can they be on it?  Also how much does it 
cost?


- Original Message - 
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To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes



My prayers are with you and Merlot.

 Anna Summers <a...@amproductionslocations.com> wrote:

my thoughts are with you .

On 15 Nov 2015, at 12:14, Maya D'Alessio wrote:

> Merlot has taken a turn for the worse. He's having trouble breathing, a 
> bit dehydrated, not interested in food, and the vet thought she felt a 
> lump in his abdomen. We might have to make a hard choice tomorrow. I 
> want to give him the night to see if he improves at all.

>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:

>
> I always feel lucky that I have a Vet who will listen to me. I figure 
> that when I go in, I have had the time to really evaluate the pet, know 
> pretty well what's going on, and have had the opportunity to research 
> the possibilities for that one critter. I'm not dealing with multiple 
> species and patients. I can focus. I like it when she also has input, 
> and I think that together, we are better than either of us alone. Since 
> the lymph node incident, we have found a way to get where we want to go 
> in the best way possible. Recently my Vet found an off-label use for a 
> new flea/tick med that saved my new dog from daily doses of a pretty 
> toxic drug. I didn't know about it. And I am now trying to introduce 
> her to Zeutering, which is a form of chemical castration that I am 
> considering.

>
> Of course, there are times...:)
>
> Margo
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
> >Sent: Nov 15, 2015 10:01 AM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
> >
> >You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
> >about cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
> >
> >Lorrie
> >
> >
> >On 11-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> >
> >> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
> >> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
> >>
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Amani Oakley]

The question of how low the RBC count "should be" is really the wrong question. 
If your cat has problems with a low or dropping RBC count (and/or the retic 
count is abnormally low, showing that red cells are not regenerating), and 
possibly other cell lines are also dropping or dropped (platelets or white 
cells), try Winstrol - 1 mg 2 x a day. If the red cell count is REALLY low and 
it is an urgent situation, start the Winstrol at 2 mg x 2 a day. The Winstrol 
is great for re-starting red cell production, and increasing the RBC and 
haematocrit levels, and very likely a positive effect on the other cell lines.

Winstrol also boosts appetite, muscle development and improves general 
well-being.

You can keep a cat on Winstrol for months and months, and this is necessary 
when a cat is extremely anemic, or has other problems like lack of appetite, 
general malaise, etc. It is also very effective for muscle problems (eg pulled 
muscles) and other conditions like relatively minor spinal injuries.

What may happen is that the liver enzymes will rise, freaking out your vet, who 
will insist that the Winstrol be stopped. DON'T LISTEN. I had my cat on 
Winstrol for at least 60% of the next 7 years after his FeLV decompensation, 
and even though his liver enzymes would occasionally rise, there was never any 
liver damage and the enzymes would go back to normal when he was weaned off the 
Winstrol.

With my cat, after he was over the FeLV crisis (which took the better part of 
8-10 months on the Winstrol) and I weaned him off, I would watch for signs of 
the anemia returning (gums and ears and pads getting pale, licking of cement, 
etc.) and I would put him back on the Winstrol as needed for several months. 
Worked like a charm every time.

The cost is quite affordable. It's about 50 cents per 1 mg tablet.

Expect significant resistance from vets, who for some reason would rather 
prescribe known ineffective treatments like Prednisolone and antibiotics (which 
can never really address a FeLV crisis or condition). Other members of this 
chatline have indicated success with other treatments like Interferon or LTCI, 
but I carefully tracked my cat on these other treatments, with weekly blood 
tests, and at least for us, these other treatments didn't result in ANY 
increase in red cells, white cells, platelets or reticulocytes.   

At the outset of our cat's severe FeLV crisis, we had him on a combination of 
Winstrol, prednisolone and doxycline. As he improved, I reduced all the levels, 
and dropped off the other 2 and left him on the Winstrol.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane 
Gannon
Sent: November-15-15 11:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

When should a cat be put on Winstrol?  How low should the RBC count be?  How 
long does it help and how long can they be on it?  Also how much does it cost?

- Original Message -
From: <dlg...@windstream.net>
To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes


> My prayers are with you and Merlot.
>
>  Anna Summers <a...@amproductionslocations.com> wrote:
>> my thoughts are with you .
>>
>> On 15 Nov 2015, at 12:14, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
>>
>> > Merlot has taken a turn for the worse. He's having trouble breathing, a 
>> > bit dehydrated, not interested in food, and the vet thought she felt a 
>> > lump in his abdomen. We might have to make a hard choice tomorrow. I 
>> > want to give him the night to see if he improves at all.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I always feel lucky that I have a Vet who will listen to me. I figure 
>> > that when I go in, I have had the time to really evaluate the pet, know 
>> > pretty well what's going on, and have had the opportunity to research 
>> > the possibilities for that one critter. I'm not dealing with multiple 
>> > species and patients. I can focus. I like it when she also has input, 
>> > and I think that together, we are better than either of us alone. Since 
>> > the lymph node incident, we have found a way to get where we want to go 
>> > in the best way possible. Recently my Vet found an off-label use for a 
>> > new flea/tick med that saved my new dog from daily doses of a pretty 
>> > toxic drug. I didn't know about it. And I am now trying to introduce 
>> > her to Zeutering, which is a form of chemical castration that I am 
>> > considering.
>> >
>> > Of course, there are times...:)
>> >
>> > Margo
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > >From: Lorrie <f

Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Amani Oakley]

Maya

My experience with Prednisolone is that it certainly isn’t enough on its own. 
It will do absolutely nothing for the red cell reduction and so I don’t know 
why you’re vets would recommend just that. Pair it with the Winstrol and it 
will help, but on its own, Prednisolone is certainly not something fight FeLV 
with. And of course, the antibiotics might help with secondary infections but 
again, not the FeLV.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya 
D'Alessio
Sent: November-14-15 8:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

No, the vets have been adamant that Prednisolone is better. His WBC did react 
to it (and increase), which is good - well more likely, he was regenerating WBC 
on his own and the prednisolone slowed down the rate his body was killing them. 
I am still interested in pursuing it, but I don't know at this point how he's 
doing really. They gave him a 5 mg dose of prednisolone (1mg/kg dose) which I 
had him on once a day for about 10 days, now he gets it once every other day.


He's about 75% of his normal self, but it's so hard to tell if one day is 
better or worse than the last. He is on an antibiotic, so I'm surprised if he's 
got another infection going on.  His lymph nodes are rock hard, and he doesn't 
mind them being massaged/rubbed, which the vet said made him think it wasn't an 
infection. He seems very drowsy today, and less in to cuddles/purring, so I 
suspect he's feeling pretty off today, likely fighting whatever is going on. We 
just love him so much :(

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Maya, I don’t think it is cancer. My guess would be that he is reacting to some 
infection. As others have said, it isn’t necessarily FeLV – it could be another 
infectious agent, but it is consistent with what you often see with FeLV.

Did you ever get him on the Winstrol?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio
Sent: November-14-15 2:51 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Yeah, the vet agreed, also mentioned it could be cancer.

His temperature is good, and his WBC count has rebounded a bit, but hes RBC 
count has gone slightly anemic now. He's still acting relatively normal, more 
drowsy than when he was healthy, and less of an appetite, but he is still 
eating on his own. It's so hard to watch, I'm just desperately hoping his body 
fights back, but either way we will keep him comfortable and happy as long as 
possible.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Not a good sign at all. Again, consistent with active FeLV.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
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Sent: November-11-15 8:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

If they are really large, I would have them checked just for my own peace of 
mind

 Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com<mailto:mde...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not
> normal appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and
> comfortable, so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his
> lymph nodes in his neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a good sign?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Amani Oakley]

Not a good sign at all. Again, consistent with active FeLV.

Amani

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

If they are really large, I would have them checked just for my own peace of 
mind

 Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hello,
> 
> Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not 
> normal appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and 
> comfortable, so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his 
> lymph nodes in his neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a good sign?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Maya D'Alessio]

Yeah, the vet agreed, also mentioned it could be cancer.

His temperature is good, and his WBC count has rebounded a bit, but hes RBC
count has gone slightly anemic now. He's still acting relatively normal,
more drowsy than when he was healthy, and less of an appetite, but he is
still eating on his own. It's so hard to watch, I'm just desperately hoping
his body fights back, but either way we will keep him comfortable and happy
as long as possible.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Not a good sign at all. Again, consistent with active FeLV.
>
> Amani
>
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> dlg...@windstream.net
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> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> If they are really large, I would have them checked just for my own peace
> of mind
>
>  Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not
> > normal appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and
> > comfortable, so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his
> > lymph nodes in his neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a good
> sign?
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Margo]

But it is not the only possibility. My Pixel (also known as Mr. Pins) is not +, at least not by Elisa. But two years or so ago, he had HUGE lymph nodes. The ones on the back of his legs were almost ping pong ball size. EVERY one was grossly enlarged, even internally. So much so that he could not poop. I took him in to find out what could be done to make him comfortable for his remaining days. This was a new Vet. She really wasn't sure it was a good idea, but gave him an enema, prescribe a course of pred, and an antibiotic probably because the staff had told her it would be simpler just to do what I wanted and send me on my way. I still don't know what caused it.He now has a chronic cough and congestion, but almost three years later, is still with us.Margo-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Yeah, the vet agreed, also mentioned it could be cancer.His temperature is good, and his WBC count has rebounded a bit, but hes RBC count has gone slightly anemic now. He's still acting relatively normal, more drowsy than when he was healthy, and less of an appetite, but he is still eating on his own. It's so hard to watch, I'm just desperately hoping his body fights back, but either way we will keep him comfortable and happy as long as possible.On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:Not a good sign at all. Again, consistent with active FeLV.

Amani

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

If they are really large, I would have them checked just for my own peace of mind

 Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not
> normal appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and
> comfortable, so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his
> lymph nodes in his neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a good sign?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Maya D'Alessio]

Crazy Margo, I'm glad he is still around :)

Interestingly, only Merlot's mandibular lymph nodes are swollen, to the
size of a walnut maybe, all the other ones are normal size.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
>
> But it is not the only possibility. My Pixel (also known as Mr. Pins) is
> not +, at least not by Elisa. But two years or so ago, he had HUGE lymph
> nodes. The ones on the back of his legs were almost ping pong ball size.
> EVERY one was grossly enlarged, even internally. So much so that he could
> not poop. I took him in to find out what could be done to make him
> comfortable for his remaining days. This was a new Vet. She really wasn't
> sure it was a good idea, but gave him an enema, prescribe a course of pred,
> and an antibiotic probably because the staff had told her it would be
> simpler just to do what I wanted and send me on my way. I still don't know
> what caused it.
>
> He now has a chronic cough and congestion, but almost three years later,
> is still with us.
>
> Margo
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maya D'Alessio
> Sent: Nov 14, 2015 2:51 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> Yeah, the vet agreed, also mentioned it could be cancer.
>
> His temperature is good, and his WBC count has rebounded a bit, but hes
> RBC count has gone slightly anemic now. He's still acting relatively
> normal, more drowsy than when he was healthy, and less of an appetite, but
> he is still eating on his own. It's so hard to watch, I'm just desperately
> hoping his body fights back, but either way we will keep him comfortable
> and happy as long as possible.
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not a good sign at all. Again, consistent with active FeLV.
>>
>> Amani
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> dlg...@windstream.net
>> Sent: November-11-15 8:08 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>>
>> If they are really large, I would have them checked just for my own peace
>> of mind
>>
>>  Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not
>> > normal appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and
>> > comfortable, so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his
>> > lymph nodes in his neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a
>> good sign?
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[dlgegg]

Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.  Sometimes our 
experience is better than their training.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Amani Oakley]

Maya, I don’t think it is cancer. My guess would be that he is reacting to some 
infection. As others have said, it isn’t necessarily FeLV – it could be another 
infectious agent, but it is consistent with what you often see with FeLV.

Did you ever get him on the Winstrol?

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya 
D'Alessio
Sent: November-14-15 2:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

Yeah, the vet agreed, also mentioned it could be cancer.

His temperature is good, and his WBC count has rebounded a bit, but hes RBC 
count has gone slightly anemic now. He's still acting relatively normal, more 
drowsy than when he was healthy, and less of an appetite, but he is still 
eating on his own. It's so hard to watch, I'm just desperately hoping his body 
fights back, but either way we will keep him comfortable and happy as long as 
possible.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Not a good sign at all. Again, consistent with active FeLV.

Amani

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Sent: November-11-15 8:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

If they are really large, I would have them checked just for my own peace of 
mind

 Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com<mailto:mde...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not
> normal appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and
> comfortable, so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his
> lymph nodes in his neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a good sign?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Maya D'Alessio]

No, the vets have been adamant that Prednisolone is better. His WBC did
react to it (and increase), which is good - well more likely, he was
regenerating WBC on his own and the prednisolone slowed down the rate his
body was killing them. I am still interested in pursuing it, but I don't
know at this point how he's doing really. They gave him a 5 mg dose of
prednisolone (1mg/kg dose) which I had him on once a day for about 10 days,
now he gets it once every other day.


He's about 75% of his normal self, but it's so hard to tell if one day is
better or worse than the last. He is on an antibiotic, so I'm surprised if
he's got another infection going on.  His lymph nodes are rock hard, and he
doesn't mind them being massaged/rubbed, which the vet said made him think
it wasn't an infection. He seems very drowsy today, and less in to
cuddles/purring, so I suspect he's feeling pretty off today, likely
fighting whatever is going on. We just love him so much :(

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Maya, I don’t think it is cancer. My guess would be that he is reacting to
> some infection. As others have said, it isn’t necessarily FeLV – it could
> be another infectious agent, but it is consistent with what you often see
> with FeLV.
>
>
>
> Did you ever get him on the Winstrol?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Maya D'Alessio
> *Sent:* November-14-15 2:51 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
>
>
> Yeah, the vet agreed, also mentioned it could be cancer.
>
>
>
> His temperature is good, and his WBC count has rebounded a bit, but hes
> RBC count has gone slightly anemic now. He's still acting relatively
> normal, more drowsy than when he was healthy, and less of an appetite, but
> he is still eating on his own. It's so hard to watch, I'm just desperately
> hoping his body fights back, but either way we will keep him comfortable
> and happy as long as possible.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Not a good sign at all. Again, consistent with active FeLV.
>
> Amani
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: November-11-15 8:08 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>
> If they are really large, I would have them checked just for my own peace
> of mind
>
>  Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not
> > normal appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and
> > comfortable, so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his
> > lymph nodes in his neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a good
> sign?
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[Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[Maya D'Alessio]

Hello,

Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not normal
appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and comfortable,
so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his lymph nodes in his
neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a good sign?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes

[dlgegg]

If they are really large, I would have them checked just for my own peace of 
mind

 Maya D'Alessio  wrote: 
> Hello,
> 
> Merlot has had an okay week and a half. He's eating on his own, not normal
> appetite, but at least we aren't force feeding. He's happy and comfortable,
> so I'm just so relieved. I noticed last night that his lymph nodes in his
> neck are huge. Should I be worried, or is this a good sign?


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