Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
No problem Marlene. I hope your baby stays healthy. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: January-27-17 7:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Thank you, really appreciate this information. M Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: I think it depends on the lab results. If the haematology values are within normal ranges (especially haematocrit, red cells, platelets and reticulocyte counts) I don’t think you need the Winstrol. What I might consider though is putting him on the Doxycycline, which I believe may slow down or interfere with the reproduction of the virus. I would be interested to see what the neutrophil/lymphocyte levels look like. You often see a reversal of the ratio (with lymphocytes rising) and/or abnormal lymphocytes developing, and this is also from the effects of the virus. The Doxycycline MIGHT help. I should also point out that Winstrol used to be given to increase a cat’s appetite, strength, weight, and muscle mass. I believe it also acts positively on the bone marrow as per my experience and the scientific study I recently quoted, showing a positive improvement for people with osteoporosis, who were put on Winstrol. Thus, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to do, to have a 3-4 week course on the Winstrol for a cat. It may help fortify the bone marrow, and the cat’s strength generally. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: January-27-17 6:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Would you consider using this for a cat (1.7 years old) that is Positive but no showing any signs of the illness (yet) ? M Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of apometocloprimide. If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might also increase the liver enzymes faster. Hope this helps! Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Amani, Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. Thanks, Gary On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani [Avast logo]<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Thank you, really appreciate this information. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > > I think it depends on the lab results. If the haematology values are within > normal ranges (especially haematocrit, red cells, platelets and reticulocyte > counts) I don’t think you need the Winstrol. What I might consider though is > putting him on the Doxycycline, which I believe may slow down or interfere > with the reproduction of the virus. I would be interested to see what the > neutrophil/lymphocyte levels look like. You often see a reversal of the ratio > (with lymphocytes rising) and/or abnormal lymphocytes developing, and this is > also from the effects of the virus. The Doxycycline MIGHT help. > > I should also point out that Winstrol used to be given to increase a cat’s > appetite, strength, weight, and muscle mass. I believe it also acts > positively on the bone marrow as per my experience and the scientific study I > recently quoted, showing a positive improvement for people with osteoporosis, > who were put on Winstrol. Thus, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to do, to have > a 3-4 week course on the Winstrol for a cat. It may help fortify the bone > marrow, and the cat’s strength generally. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Marlene Snowman > Sent: January-27-17 6:20 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Would you consider using this for a cat (1.7 years old) that is Positive but > no showing any signs of the illness (yet) ? > > M > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > > Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day > > Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day > > Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day > > > > > If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow > moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of > the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of > apometocloprimide. > > If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might > consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and > kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely > increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might > also increase the liver enzymes faster. > > > Hope this helps! > > Amani > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary > Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Amani, > > Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they > must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. > > Thanks, > > Gary > > > On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Sherri > > I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is > that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back > into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to > interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, > though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. > But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the > Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it > from rising. > > Amani > > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
What is apometocloprimide? I do not recall eeing it mentioned before? Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > Winstrol - 1 mg twice a day > > Doxycycline - 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day > > Prednisolone - ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day > > > > > If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow > moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of > the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of > apometocloprimide. > > If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low - like below 5-8, you might > consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and > kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely > increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might > also increase the liver enzymes faster. > > > Hope this helps! > > Amani > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary > Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > > Amani, > > Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they > must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. > > Thanks, > > Gary > > On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Sherri > > I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is > that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back > into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to > interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, > though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. > But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the > Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it > from rising. > > Amani > > > > [Avast logo]<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
I think it depends on the lab results. If the haematology values are within normal ranges (especially haematocrit, red cells, platelets and reticulocyte counts) I don’t think you need the Winstrol. What I might consider though is putting him on the Doxycycline, which I believe may slow down or interfere with the reproduction of the virus. I would be interested to see what the neutrophil/lymphocyte levels look like. You often see a reversal of the ratio (with lymphocytes rising) and/or abnormal lymphocytes developing, and this is also from the effects of the virus. The Doxycycline MIGHT help. I should also point out that Winstrol used to be given to increase a cat’s appetite, strength, weight, and muscle mass. I believe it also acts positively on the bone marrow as per my experience and the scientific study I recently quoted, showing a positive improvement for people with osteoporosis, who were put on Winstrol. Thus, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to do, to have a 3-4 week course on the Winstrol for a cat. It may help fortify the bone marrow, and the cat’s strength generally. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: January-27-17 6:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Would you consider using this for a cat (1.7 years old) that is Positive but no showing any signs of the illness (yet) ? M Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of apometocloprimide. If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might also increase the liver enzymes faster. Hope this helps! Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Amani, Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. Thanks, Gary On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani [Avast logo]<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Would you consider using this for a cat (1.7 years old) that is Positive but no showing any signs of the illness (yet) ? M Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > > Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day > > Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day > > Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day > > > > > If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow > moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of > the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of > apometocloprimide. > > If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might > consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and > kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely > increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might > also increase the liver enzymes faster. > > > Hope this helps! > > Amani > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary > Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Amani, > > Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they > must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. > > Thanks, > > Gary > > > On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Sherri > > I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is > that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back > into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to > interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, > though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. > But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the > Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it > from rising. > > Amani > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Winstrol - 1 mg twice a day Doxycycline - 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day Prednisolone - ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of apometocloprimide. If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low - like below 5-8, you might consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might also increase the liver enzymes faster. Hope this helps! Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Amani, Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. Thanks, Gary On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani [Avast logo]<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Amani, Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. Thanks, Gary On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
I have 1 felv, Annie. She is now 8 years plus, healthy, sassy and 8 lbs.Don't give up on your Hodor mand take the advice of members hwo have been through this. "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hodor is STUNNING. Looks like a combination of my 2 kitties. Glad you found > our group, we're here to support you as you support Hodor. Thanks for > helping him. > When my cat first got sick, I had my vet order LTCI injections. They seemed > to help, but they were expensive. Hugs to both of you! > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > Hi Elizabeth, > > > > Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us. Thank you > > for not allowing the Vet to euthanize. I'm appalled that a ACVIM Vet would > > recommend that. What happened with the floss and GI involvement? Has his > > RBC/HCT held? How does he feel and act? > > > >I have two FeLV+ cats on Interferon, and they have been on > > it for 3+ years. I can't swear it helps, but I'm sure not going to stop it > > :) You might try DMG, some people have had luck withthat, for mine, it > > hasn;t hurt to stop it, but I would start again if either started going > > south. > > > > As to your other cat, I see no point in separating them, > > as my Vet said, "That ship has sailed". I would probably vaccinate your > > negative cat, but I didn't. I do vaccinate anyone new who may have contact. > > > > Don't give up :) > > > > Margo, Mako, Gribble and assorted negatives... > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Liz McCarty > > Sent: Sep 15, 2016 1:39 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat > > with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed > > lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the > > vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need > > a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The > > vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case > > we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV > > positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him > > which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was > > going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went > > forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had > > him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. > > Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that > > and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other > > suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull > > through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's > > in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, > > and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be > > separated. She's not FeLV positive. > > > > Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we > > incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is > > interested. > > http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk > > > > Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. > > > > Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk Sent: September-15-16 4:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi Elizabeth, I had commented a couple of times on your Facebook posts on the Felv+ Owners page. How has your cat been feeling since the transfusion? Has he been able to sustain any energy, appetite and such after his transfusion? I am glad you found this board. I was given very good info here after Bogey was diagnosed. Her IFA was positive and so her bone marrow is affected. Her RBC was 13 when I took her in. She had stopped playing, eating and was sleeping all the time. After being on the Prednisone her appetite rebounded. They also put her on an antibiotic that we have since stopped at the vets urging and added Stanzolol 2mg once a day. She goes back in tomorrow to see if her counts are better and I think they will be. Her gums are more pink, playing some and eating good. I am certain though that she is still quite anemic. We just need to show improvement with this treatment. I find myself saying all day today "Please be higher". My point being they can rebound from the anemia. I don't know for how long but I am going to give my cat the best chance at life that I can as I am sure you will and everyone else on this board does. Some cats can live a long time with FELV and some just cannot. I wish us all the best of luck. Sherri From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>> on behalf of Liz McCarty <emccart...@gmail.com<mailto:emccart...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
– more than 10 times the recommended daily dose for cats. That’s the only study which has found this supposed link between Winstrol and liver damage. And even in that study, with those remarkably ridiculous doses, the cats in that study only had elevated liver enzymes (no tumours, etc.) and the liver enzymes dropped back to normal levels when the Winstrol was discontinued. This is consistent with my experience as well. I refused to stop the Winstrol for my cat, when the enzymes went up, because he was going to die with the low red cell count he had. I kept him on Winstrol for around 10 months, before the red cells were in a normal range. During that ten month period, I would wean him down a few times, but ALWAYS the red cells would immediately drop again, so it was more than clear that it was the Winstrol making the numbers rise. So, in the end, he had Winstrol pretty much for the duration of 10 months and his liver enzymes went right back to normal again, once I discontinued the Winstrol – NO lasting damage. This was also my experience with a second cat with a nasal sarcoma, and where I used the Winstrol to keep her appetite up and reduce the swelling (she was 16). The enzymes went quite high at the outset of my use of Winstrol, but went back to normal when I weaned her off for a bit and then again when I ultimately took her off the Winstrol. Get the Winstrol if you can, and use it in combination with the prednisone (which I am told also helps to protect the liver when the Winstrol is used) and Doxycycline. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Liz McCarty Sent: September-15-16 1:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hi Elizabeth, I had commented a couple of times on your Facebook posts on the Felv+ Owners page. How has your cat been feeling since the transfusion? Has he been able to sustain any energy, appetite and such after his transfusion? I am glad you found this board. I was given very good info here after Bogey was diagnosed. Her IFA was positive and so her bone marrow is affected. Her RBC was 13 when I took her in. She had stopped playing, eating and was sleeping all the time. After being on the Prednisone her appetite rebounded. They also put her on an antibiotic that we have since stopped at the vets urging and added Stanzolol 2mg once a day. She goes back in tomorrow to see if her counts are better and I think they will be. Her gums are more pink, playing some and eating good. I am certain though that she is still quite anemic. We just need to show improvement with this treatment. I find myself saying all day today ³Please be higher². My point being they can rebound from the anemia. I don¹t know for how long but I am going to give my cat the best chance at life that I can as I am sure you will and everyone else on this board does. Some cats can live a long time with FELV and some just cannot. I wish us all the best of luck. Sherri From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Liz McCarty <emccart...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Good for you for not listening to the euthanasia nonsense. Doxycycline is used in case the anemia is being caused by Hemobartonellosis (Hemobart for short). But you said there was a piece of floss in his stool. Floss can do all kinds of nasty stuff to a kitty's intestines. He could have lost blood because of that. Testing positive for FeLV is unfortunate, because now vets can focus on this instead of looking at the complete picture. Some kitties can live for several years after testing positive, so do not give up hope. How long have the 2 cats been best friends? If the other cat has tested negative, it may very well be that she has a strong enough immune system. Separating them now may only cause undue stress, which you don't want to do. Concentrate on increasing the immune system, keeping them well fed & happy. We never really know how long we have with them - whether they test positive or not... I'm sure others will chime in here too. Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM From: "Liz McCarty" <emccart...@gmail.com> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hodor is STUNNING. Looks like a combination of my 2 kitties. Glad you found our group, we're here to support you as you support Hodor. Thanks for helping him. When my cat first got sick, I had my vet order LTCI injections. They seemed to help, but they were expensive. Hugs to both of you! On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Hi Elizabeth, > > Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us. Thank you > for not allowing the Vet to euthanize. I'm appalled that a ACVIM Vet would > recommend that. What happened with the floss and GI involvement? Has his > RBC/HCT held? How does he feel and act? > >I have two FeLV+ cats on Interferon, and they have been on > it for 3+ years. I can't swear it helps, but I'm sure not going to stop it > :) You might try DMG, some people have had luck withthat, for mine, it > hasn;t hurt to stop it, but I would start again if either started going > south. > > As to your other cat, I see no point in separating them, > as my Vet said, "That ship has sailed". I would probably vaccinate your > negative cat, but I didn't. I do vaccinate anyone new who may have contact. > > Don't give up :) > > Margo, Mako, Gribble and assorted negatives... > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Liz McCarty > Sent: Sep 15, 2016 1:39 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Hi everyone, > > Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat > with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed > lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the > vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need > a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The > vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case > we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV > positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him > which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was > going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went > forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had > him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. > Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that > and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other > suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull > through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's > in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, > and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be > separated. She's not FeLV positive. > > Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we > incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is > interested. > http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk > > Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. > > Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hi Elizabeth, Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us. Thank you for not allowing the Vet to euthanize. I'm appalled that a ACVIM Vet would recommend that. What happened with the floss and GI involvement? Has his RBC/HCT held? How does he feel and act? I have two FeLV+ cats on Interferon, and they have been on it for 3+ years. I can't swear it helps, but I'm sure not going to stop it :) You might try DMG, some people have had luck withthat, for mine, it hasn;t hurt to stop it, but I would start again if either started going south. As to your other cat, I see no point in separating them, as my Vet said, "That ship has sailed". I would probably vaccinate your negative cat, but I didn't. I do vaccinate anyone new who may have contact.Don't give up :)Margo, Mako, Gribble and assorted negatives... -Original Message- From: Liz McCarty <emccart...@gmail.com> Sent: Sep 15, 2016 1:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
