Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
I had a kitty with uneven pupils, the vet felt it was a tumor but she also had toxoplasmosis and I suspected that was what it was as it did seem they normalized after treatment.She was feral, FIV+, toxo CRF, and did great for 9 months with fluids and care, no further eye problems, we had to let her go due to a urinary issue that was making her very uncomfortable and meds were not helping. This was Bobbi, a 15 year old FIV+ retired campus feral--quite a remarkable girl! I believe uneven pupils can be caused by a number of things and when I told my vet before we trapped her and got her in, her first guess was hypertension. Good luck to Ember! Heather On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Thanks for all of the advice! I'm going to take Ember in on Monday. I'll report back after I hear what the vet has to say. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Ember had a good vet visit. I wish I could convey everything that the vet said. He doesn't know what's causing the situation. We decided to send out for a toxo titer, despite the lack of lesions when he looked into her eye. He also gave me some symptoms to watch for if this is actually something serious, which include third eyelid showing, lower lid drooping, mouth slacking and some drooling, and of course, the disparity between the pupils getting worse. Please keep Ember in your thoughts and prayers. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lance, we'll keep Ember in our thoughts and prayers. When are you moving? Jane On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Lance wrote: Ember had a good vet visit. I wish I could convey everything that the vet said. He doesn't know what's causing the situation. We decided to send out for a toxo titer, despite the lack of lesions when he looked into her eye. He also gave me some symptoms to watch for if this is actually something serious, which include third eyelid showing, lower lid drooping, mouth slacking and some drooling, and of course, the disparity between the pupils getting worse. Please keep Ember in your thoughts and prayers. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Not really sure. I'm hoping for mid-October, though that's getting pretty close and I still haven't found a place. We'll see. I'd like to move in first, then come back to retrieve Ember after things are settled, so she doesn't have to endure the craziness of moving stuff in and unpacking. On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Jane Lyons wrote: Lance, we'll keep Ember in our thoughts and prayers. When are you moving? Jane On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Lance wrote: Ember had a good vet visit. I wish I could convey everything that the vet said. He doesn't know what's causing the situation. We decided to send out for a toxo titer, despite the lack of lesions when he looked into her eye. He also gave me some symptoms to watch for if this is actually something serious, which include third eyelid showing, lower lid drooping, mouth slacking and some drooling, and of course, the disparity between the pupils getting worse. Please keep Ember in your thoughts and prayers. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
that sounds like a good plan. Hopefully you'll have figured out what's going on with her now and will have time to get her back on the DMG to give her immune system a boost before the trip. We're thinking of her, keep us posted. Jane On Sep 28, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Lance wrote: Not really sure. I'm hoping for mid-October, though that's getting pretty close and I still haven't found a place. We'll see. I'd like to move in first, then come back to retrieve Ember after things are settled, so she doesn't have to endure the craziness of moving stuff in and unpacking. On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Jane Lyons wrote: Lance, we'll keep Ember in our thoughts and prayers. When are you moving? Jane On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Lance wrote: Ember had a good vet visit. I wish I could convey everything that the vet said. He doesn't know what's causing the situation. We decided to send out for a toxo titer, despite the lack of lesions when he looked into her eye. He also gave me some symptoms to watch for if this is actually something serious, which include third eyelid showing, lower lid drooping, mouth slacking and some drooling, and of course, the disparity between the pupils getting worse. Please keep Ember in your thoughts and prayers. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Thanks for all of the advice! I'm going to take Ember in on Monday. I'll report back after I hear what the vet has to say. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Hello List, It's been a long time since I've posted anything, and I must admit that I haven't been keeping up with posts for quite awhile. Some of you may remember that I have an FeLV+ named Ember. She's still with me, though I have noticed something different lately, and I have another question about transporting her. In the last week or so, I've noted that Ember's pupils are sometimes not the same size. I did a search for anisocoria and found nothing in the archives. Has anyone seen this occur in their cats? It seems to be similar to how headaches are in people... could be just normal stuff all the way up to being a really serious issue. The articles seem to indicate that this can happen with viral infections like FeLV, but other than low wbc, there aren't any symptoms. It doesn't really make sense. Ember's last CBC had an especially low white blood cell count... I think it was 4.2. She's been on interferon ever since testing positive in 2006, and while I'd taken her off DMG, she's going back on it as soon as I get my shipment. Also, it looks like I'm going to be moving back to Madison, Wisconsin. I'm trying to figure out the best way to get Ember to our new home. I'm willing to pay to fly the both of us up (with her being in the cabin with me), but I'm wondering if anyone has any other ideas or tips they'd be willing to share. I know that transport is frequently done by so many of you, which is why I ask this here. My best to all of you and your cats, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
hi, lance! going back up to the frozen north, huh? as one who transports FeLVs and FIVs and other special-needs kitties all the time, the best bet is what you mentioned: be her chaperone, with her as carryon luggage. that way she's never out of your care; her plane ticket will be between $100-200 (and for that she doesn't even get a seat!)--fares have just gone up, i'm told. as for the uneven pupils, i have heard that it's seen in FeLVs, but it's also seen in negatives--but it can be a number of things, from neurological insult to an infection. because she IS FeLV, and has the wbc thing going on, i'd hie me to the vet MC On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hello List,- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Hi Lance! I transported a rescue kitty to her new mommy in Seattle once in the airplane cabin. Check out the internet for suggestions. I do NOT recommend tranquilizing her as she might be more confused. I did take a blanket to put between the kitty and side of the plane to protect her from the cold air (I suggest a window seat). I padded the carrier with puppy pads so I could just take out a layer if she urinated (she didn't and it was a long trip with a layover in Denver). I had a small weighted bowl to offer water. One thing about airline travel is you might have to vaccinate her for rabies. I had a collar and ID on kitty and also brought a harness and leash (for our layover which we spent in the ladies bathroom in the red carpet club so she could walk about). I had a small Tupperware container with litter that I offered in the bathroom but she didn't use it. She didn't drink water either. I did not have to take her out of the carrier in the security area. Not sure if they require that now...probably. I did take a towel to hold the kitty in case I DID have to take her out. Good luck and welcome back to the Midwest! Laurie (Iowa) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport Hello List, It's been a long time since I've posted anything, and I must admit that I haven't been keeping up with posts for quite awhile. Some of you may remember that I have an FeLV+ named Ember. She's still with me, though I have noticed something different lately, and I have another question about transporting her. In the last week or so, I've noted that Ember's pupils are sometimes not the same size. I did a search for anisocoria and found nothing in the archives. Has anyone seen this occur in their cats? It seems to be similar to how headaches are in people... could be just normal stuff all the way up to being a really serious issue. The articles seem to indicate that this can happen with viral infections like FeLV, but other than low wbc, there aren't any symptoms. It doesn't really make sense. Ember's last CBC had an especially low white blood cell count... I think it was 4.2. She's been on interferon ever since testing positive in 2006, and while I'd taken her off DMG, she's going back on it as soon as I get my shipment. Also, it looks like I'm going to be moving back to Madison, Wisconsin. I'm trying to figure out the best way to get Ember to our new home. I'm willing to pay to fly the both of us up (with her being in the cabin with me), but I'm wondering if anyone has any other ideas or tips they'd be willing to share. I know that transport is frequently done by so many of you, which is why I ask this here. My best to all of you and your cats, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Ah traveling w. kitty. I've flow w. my Tucson as well as some rescue kitties several times. Each time I packed my backpack with everything cat-LOL (throwaway cardboard litter box, dry food, water, puppy pads, and on and on). NEVER did I use any of those things. I use a soft sided Sherpa bag-medium side. Airlines will tell you that a Sherpa bag is approved but you'll find that they run tv movie cables under the seat making it impossible to really slide the bag under. Get a window seat and put your legs in front of it and they'll never notice. I try to get a seat where there's no one next to me so that after takeoff, I can put the carrier on the seat--more for me than the cat, believe me! I always put a harness on with their tags, etc. Only rough time is when you go through security--they make you take the cat and go thru the metal detector while the carrier goes through the xray machine. Its s much fun--we know how cats like crowds strange noises! I usually open the top clip a leash on the harness. I wrap the leash around my arm then pick the cat up by draping a big towel around it so that it can't see ANYTHING! Then I drape the toweled cat over my shoulder ignore the claws digging into my skin. You quickly go thru and race to the end of the conveyor belt to stuff the cat back in the carrier. Do NOT unhook the leash until the top of the carrier is almost zipped shut. Sounds awful but the weirdest thing is that during the entire time, the cat will just sit silently glaring at you. I know they're thinking of ways to pay you back for this indignity. They won't eat, drink, purr, meow--they just glare! And of course, sleep! They don't get nervous--its we humans that are the wrecks... Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport Hello List, It's been a long time since I've posted anything, and I must admit that I haven't been keeping up with posts for quite awhile. Some of you may remember that I have an FeLV+ named Ember. She's still with me, though I have noticed something different lately, and I have another question about transporting her. In the last week or so, I've noted that Ember's pupils are sometimes not the same size. I did a search for anisocoria and found nothing in the archives. Has anyone seen this occur in their cats? It seems to be similar to how headaches are in people... could be just normal stuff all the way up to being a really serious issue. The articles seem to indicate that this can happen with viral infections like FeLV, but other than low wbc, there aren't any symptoms. It doesn't really make sense. Ember's last CBC had an especially low white blood cell count... I think it was 4.2. She's been on interferon ever since testing positive in 2006, and while I'd taken her off DMG, she's going back on it as soon as I get my shipment. Also, it looks like I'm going to be moving back to Madison, Wisconsin. I'm trying to figure out the best way to get Ember to our new home. I'm willing to pay to fly the both of us up (with her being in the cabin with me), but I'm wondering if anyone has any other ideas or tips they'd be willing to share. I know that transport is frequently done by so many of you, which is why I ask this here. My best to all of you and your cats, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
she'll need a health certificate within 10 days of travel, too, but we can get into those details closer to the time! -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Lance it is great to hear from you. I realized that you were MIA a while ago and was hoping that Ember was ok. I've not had experience with the pupil anomaly but MC's advise about a vet check sounds right since her wbc was low. She might be fighting an infection. Also, Laurie's travel advice is right on. Keep her warm and let her know that you are right with her. Putting her back on DMG will hopefully build up her immunity before the trip. We'll be thinking of the two of you ...hoping it is a good move and not stressful for either of you. Keep us posted! Jane On Sep 24, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Lance wrote: Hello List, It's been a long time since I've posted anything, and I must admit that I haven't been keeping up with posts for quite awhile. Some of you may remember that I have an FeLV+ named Ember. She's still with me, though I have noticed something different lately, and I have another question about transporting her. In the last week or so, I've noted that Ember's pupils are sometimes not the same size. I did a search for anisocoria and found nothing in the archives. Has anyone seen this occur in their cats? It seems to be similar to how headaches are in people... could be just normal stuff all the way up to being a really serious issue. The articles seem to indicate that this can happen with viral infections like FeLV, but other than low wbc, there aren't any symptoms. It doesn't really make sense. Ember's last CBC had an especially low white blood cell count... I think it was 4.2. She's been on interferon ever since testing positive in 2006, and while I'd taken her off DMG, she's going back on it as soon as I get my shipment. Also, it looks like I'm going to be moving back to Madison, Wisconsin. I'm trying to figure out the best way to get Ember to our new home. I'm willing to pay to fly the both of us up (with her being in the cabin with me), but I'm wondering if anyone has any other ideas or tips they'd be willing to share. I know that transport is frequently done by so many of you, which is why I ask this here. My best to all of you and your cats, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
you can request a private x-ray screening, too--they have separate rooms with their own little machines, and you have to take the kitty out of the carrier and let them make sure she's not carrying bombs strapped to her waist (according to another member of this list, whose identiy i shall protect). that way, tho, all the people and craziness won't scare her. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Bailey had this happen all the time, nothing medical, his pupils would just be uneven, I have noticed it with Joey (negative) on the rare occasion also, nothing medical with him either. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Bailey had this happen all the time, nothing medical, his pupils would just be uneven, I have noticed it with Joey (negative) on the rare occasion also, nothing medical with him either. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye (pupils) changes and transport
Hey Lance, nice to hear from you. The only time I've had that happen with the pupils being different sizes is with an FIV+ kitty, can't say what caused it or what it related to. Re air travel: The last time I flew with a cat in the cabin - which was probably 2004 or thereabouts - was taking a cat from Little Rock (where I live) to Minneapolis/St Paul. Airports were just getting acclimated to the post 2003 airport procedures. I fortunately had a harness on the kitty, and she was inside the soft sided carry on cat carrier. As we approached the airport scanner, thy told me to take her out of the carrier and carry her separately. But THEN they told me to take my shoes off (lace up running shoes), which was interesting while carrying a cat - and put the shoes, carrier, purse, etc, on the moving belt to the separate xray scanner. Then I carried her thru the airport security scanner, with her carrier going thru separately. Glad I had the harness and leash. I had cat, then had to retrieve purse, carrier, shoes, etc, and reassemble myself. It was no fun. Gloria On Sep 24, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Lance wrote: Hello List, It's been a long time since I've posted anything, and I must admit that I haven't been keeping up with posts for quite awhile. Some of you may remember that I have an FeLV+ named Ember. She's still with me, though I have noticed something different lately, and I have another question about transporting her. In the last week or so, I've noted that Ember's pupils are sometimes not the same size. I did a search for anisocoria and found nothing in the archives. Has anyone seen this occur in their cats? It seems to be similar to how headaches are in people... could be just normal stuff all the way up to being a really serious issue. The articles seem to indicate that this can happen with viral infections like FeLV, but other than low wbc, there aren't any symptoms. It doesn't really make sense. Ember's last CBC had an especially low white blood cell count... I think it was 4.2. She's been on interferon ever since testing positive in 2006, and while I'd taken her off DMG, she's going back on it as soon as I get my shipment. Also, it looks like I'm going to be moving back to Madison, Wisconsin. I'm trying to figure out the best way to get Ember to our new home. I'm willing to pay to fly the both of us up (with her being in the cabin with me), but I'm wondering if anyone has any other ideas or tips they'd be willing to share. I know that transport is frequently done by so many of you, which is why I ask this here. My best to all of you and your cats, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
