[Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

[Corinne Shank]

My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
past 2 years.  After the last infection that did not respond to treatment,  I 
asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read that 
yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system.  
Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive.   I am just 
devastated as she is my little princess.   When I got her as a kitten,  she had 
tested positive but tested negative a month later.  I was told that if a kitten 
tested negative after positive,  that she had shed the virus and would be free 
of Felv.   I guess that is not the case.I would have never brought her home 
if I had any idea that she was positive as I have another cat who was and still 
is Felv negative.  

So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears.   The vet said to use 
Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down.  Are there any other 
recommendations?  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Corinne Shank]

The creatinine was at 1.5 and the bun was at 26 so well within normal.  I was 
more concerned about the Lymphocytes which was at 18 and the Absolute 
lymphocyte which was at 864.

I was wondering if I should go ahead and get the IFA test done.  I think I am 
hoping against hope as I think I know that she does have Felv.   I wish that I 
could treat her ear problems but it does not seem that any treatment has 
worked.  

 
On Sep 25, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

> If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
> Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and 
> the machine can therefore not detect the platelets.
> 
> What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
> the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
> is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
> and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Corinne Shank
> Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs
> 
> My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
> yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
> tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup. 
>  When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
> had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
> blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a 
> death sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  
> When she had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole 
> (systematic fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast 
> ear infection.What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), 
> Sodium (high), platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute 
> Limphocy (low).  A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are 
> detected in the sample and CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what 
> this all
  m
> eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
> should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
> medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
> on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
> that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat.   
>
> 
> 
> 
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[Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Corinne Shank]

My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup.  
When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a death 
sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  When she 
had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole (systematic 
fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast ear infection. 
   What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), Sodium (high), 
platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute Limphocy (low).  
A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are detected in the sample and 
CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what this all m
 eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat. 
 





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[Felvtalk] Negative IFA test

[Corinne Shank]

My cat tested positive for Felv a few months ago from an Elisa test.  I had her 
tested after she had persistent yeast ear infections and I had read that immune 
suppressed cats were prone to yeast infections.  In addition,  when she was a 
kitten she tested positive but then tested negative.  I was told that she had 
shed the virus and that is why she tested negative.She is now 8 years old.

So I put off getting the IFA test as I wanted to see how she did and I felt 
that she probably was infected.  I finally took her in to get the test and it 
came back negative.  So I know that the virus is not in her bone marrow.  But 
what does this mean?  The vet said to bring her back in 6 months for a snap 
test to see if she has shed the virus, but is this really possible?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test

[Corinne Shank]

Amy,

Your story is similar to mine.  I think that there is so much that vets don't 
know about Felv, so it is great to hear from others with their situation.  When 
I found out that she had Felv from the Elisa test,  her blood work was fairly 
normal and since that time she has gained weight.  So I think it is wait and 
see situation.  She still likes to wake me up at 3:00 am , so I think she 
still feels good. 

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> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Amy Glunt <amyynoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm interested in replies to this as well. I have a somewhat similar 
> experience which I have been pondering over. My own cat, Gravy, tested 
> positive on the Elisa for FeLV in March when we took her in for an ear 
> infection and persistent lethargy. A month ago she had both Elisa and IFA 
> tests and was negative for both and the vet said that the leukemia must have 
> gone dormant in her marrow but that she would still have a suppressed immune 
> system and if she gets ill again, the leukemia could possibly flare back up. 
> Also, I got the news today that after a month on Winstrol and prednisolone 
> (we skipped the doxycycline since she was negative) her RBC has gone from 16 
> to 40. She is a whole new cat, it's absolutely incredible, and I owe it all 
> to you guys here...my Christmas miracle!
> Sorry to hijack your post Corinne!
> 
> Amy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Corinne Shank <cms9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My cat tested positive for Felv a few months ago from an Elisa test.  I had 
>> her tested after she had persistent yeast ear infections and I had read that 
>> immune suppressed cats were prone to yeast infections.  In addition,  when 
>> she was a kitten she tested positive but then tested negative.  I was told 
>> that she had shed the virus and that is why she tested negative.She is 
>> now 8 years old.
>> 
>> So I put off getting the IFA test as I wanted to see how she did and I felt 
>> that she probably was infected.  I finally took her in to get the test and 
>> it came back negative.  So I know that the virus is not in her bone marrow.  
>> But what does this mean?  The vet said to bring her back in 6 months for a 
>> snap test to see if she has shed the virus, but is this really possible?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test

[Corinne Shank]

I think that there are many unknowns and that the virus can live in many forms. 
 I have had my cat for almost 8 years.  The last Elisa test on her before I 
took her in, at about 3 months, was negative (after an initial positive test).  
At the time I already had a cat (1.5 yo) who was negative.  I was assured that 
she was negative and would not have Felv. They are both indoor cats and are not 
exposed to others.   So why after having her for so long,  does she now test 
Elisa positive and IFA negative?  Has the virus been dormant for 8 years?  I 
have researched on Internet and it seems that there are many unknowns.

It would have been impossible for me to separate my cats after 8 years together 
and the stress of keeping them apart would have been hard on them and me.  So 
they live together and my other cat is fine so far (he is vaccinated).

  I found the following on the website of the SNap test manufacturer about 
discordant results and found the comment about true status not being known to 
be interesting.


this is an ELISA-positive and IFA-negative status. Discordant results may be 
due to the stage of infection, the variability of host responses, or technical 
problems with testing. The status of the cat with discordant results may 
eventually become clear by repeating both tests in 60 d and yearly thereafter 
until the test results agree. Unfortunately, a substantial number of these 
patients have persistently discordant test results and the cat’s true status 
may not be known. Cats with discordant test results are best considered as 
potential sources of infection for other cats.

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On Dec 22, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Amy Glunt 
<amyynoe...@gmail.com<mailto:amyynoe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If my cat has tested negative on both, is it possible that she could be 
contagious in the future? I would like to get her a younger cat as a friend, 
especially now with her energy levels I think she would definitely benefit from 
having a feline partner. However I am not eager to have another cat with anemia 
and immune related issues. I figure if there's any chance of her shedding the 
virus, it's just not safe to bring another cat into the house, and I'm not sure 
how foolproof the vaccines are against the virus.

Amy

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On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Margo 
<toomanykitti...@earthlink.net<mailto:toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>> wrote:



With a negative IFA, the cat should have no virus in a position to shed. It is 
either not present, or is sequestered in the bone marrow, and undetectable by 
IFA or Elisa. When a cat is shedding a virus, they are contagious. Is that what 
you mean?

Thanks,

Margo

-Original Message-
From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila   DDS Timonium" 
<sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov<mailto:sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov>>
Sent: Dec 22, 2016 8:12 AM
To: "'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>'" 
<felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test

I had the same situation but when the IFA is negative, the cat should shed the 
virus after testing negative.   They normally retest every 3 months for the 
felv elisa test.  The IFA test is 99.9% accurate.


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Corinne Shank
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test

Amy,

Your story is similar to mine.  I think that there is so much that vets don't 
know about Felv, so it is great to hear from others with their situation.  When 
I found out that she had Felv from the Elisa test,  her blood work was fairly 
normal and since that time she has gained weight.  So I think it is wait and 
see situation.  She still likes to wake me up at 3:00 am , so I think she 
still feels good.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Amy Glunt 
<amyynoe...@gmail.com<mailto:amyynoe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm interested in replies to this as well. I have a somewhat similar experience 
which I have been pondering over. My own cat, Gravy, tested positive on the 
Elisa for FeLV in March when we took her in for an ear infection and persistent 
lethargy. A month ago she had both Elisa and IFA tests and was negative for 
both and the vet said that the leukemia must have gone dormant in her marrow 
but that she would still have a suppressed immune system and if she gets ill 
again, the leukemia could possibly flare back up.
Also, I got the news today that after a month on Winstrol and prednisolone (we 
skipped the doxycycline since she was negative) her RBC has gone from 16 to 40. 
She is a whole new cat, it's absolutely incredible, and I owe it all to you 
guys here...my Christmas miracle!
Sorry to hijack your post Corinne!

Amy

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Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

[Corinne Shank]

Marilyn,

I am so sorry for your loss.  I know how difficult it must be.

I am curious though about what type of Felv test you had done. There is the 
Elisa test which is usually done in house and the IFA test which is done via a 
blood test at a lab and is supposed to be more accurate.   I have read that 
there are false positives with the Elisa test.  My cat tested positive with 
Elisa but negative with the IFA test.  I know I should probably take her back 
and have her retested, (as it has been more than 6 months) but she is doing 
well and she gets really stressed by trips to the vet.

On Jun 24, 2017, at 7:27 AM, Sandy 
> wrote:

I'm so sorry Marilyn .   Destiny sounds like a sweet and 
wonderful kitty cat.  You certainly are s great guardian for your furry felines.
Sandy W


From: "Ardy Robertson" >
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Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 9:27:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

Oh Marilyn,
Destiny sounds like she was such a beautiful kitty -- I'm happy she
didn't have to suffer more.

I am curious though - you said she tested negative for FeLV, and then had
the vaccine and boosters, not exposed to FeLV outside. What more could a pet
owner do! (I hate FeLV!!)

Ardy




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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 1:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

Marilyn

I am so very sorry for your loss. I know you know how lucky Destiny was to
have you caring so much for her.

Amani

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Marilyn Knapp Litt
Sent: June-24-17 12:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Destiny

Just wanted to give you kind souls an update on my sweet Destiny.  I helped
her cross the bridge last week, just a few weeks after her diagnosis.  The
vet initially thought she had a nasal tumor, but tests were negative.  On
this visit it was clear she had deteriorated in a week and had the vet was
able to see the tumor. The vet said steroids would shrink it, but it would
come roaring back.  Her head was so swollen that one eye was shut.  The best
thing we could do was let her go while she was still purring.

>From onset to end there was nothing we could have changed with any knowledge
or treatment.  She had tested neg. for FeLv and had the vaccine and
boosters. Our other cats are negative and she never went outdoors. Destiny
enjoyed good health until very recently when her respitory infection turned
out to be a tumor.  Nevertheless, it really helped us to have the support of
this community and know there was somewhere we could go for advice.

Thank you all and may you all have better success and hug your kitty
tonight.  Destiny was a peacemaker.  I never saw her hiss once, but I saw
her sit as close as she could to our cats who hissed at her, until they
finally were won over.  The world needs more people like my special cat . .
.

Marilyn Knapp Litt

 Marilyn Knapp Litt  wrote:
> Has anyone used these for FeLV?
>
>
>
> My kitty, Destiny,  is battling a bad infection.  We were shocked to
> find she had FeLV.  She had had the shot and a booster.  The vet was
> treating her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out
> the terrible truth.  I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her
comfortable.
> She is on an antibiotic.  I am giving her Essiac tea.  No idea if it
> is effective.
>
>
>
> I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV.
>
>
>
> I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find
> info on using them with cancer, not FeLV.  Anyone have a suggestion
> about boosting her immune system and fighting this infection?  We
> thought we were going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better
the last 24 hours.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
> ~Marilyn Knapp Litt
>
>
>


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[Felvtalk] lymphoplasmacytic proctitis (inflamed rear end)

[Corinne Shank]

My cat is 10 years old and has tested positive for FELV in the ELISA test but 
the IFA test was negative.  So she has virus but it seems to be dormant. I 
noticed that she has blood on her anus and it was inflamed.  So I took her to 
the vet and they did a biopsy of her anus as it was inflamed.  It turns out she 
has lymphoplasmacytic proctitis which from what I read is kind of like IBD. The 
vet wants to put her on a hypoallergenic diet, give a course of B12 shots sand 
give her some low dose steroids to reduce the inflammation.  I am concerned 
about the steroids as I have read that it suppresses the immune system.  I 
don’t want her immune system to be suppressed as I am worried the virus could 
come out.   Any thoughts?
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