[Felvtalk] Thank you all. . .

[kresch831]

How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words 
about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some say 
there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the one who 
has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat waiting for 
me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our shelter arrived 
to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the door! In total there 
were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes.  I saw a Tux among the mix and 
am going to see him today. I'm also going to ask the vet to test him for FeLv 
at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the litter pan from Zorro just 
to be on the safe side. 

Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might know,
Ken

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Re: [Felvtalk] boxes of cats ?? (was: Thank you all. . .

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Hi Kat,
I live in Dubuque, Iowa and when I talked to the staff they said no notes were 
attached. The cats were all relatively healthy; many had fleas, but were 
otherwise fine. There were two nursing momma cats, but one had no kittens so 
the staff feared she may have hid them. They searched the grounds but found no 
although they did capture a couple of cats that escaped the boxes and were in a 
tree! In just over a week all the cats were spayed or neutered, vaccinated and 
adopted out! The shelter put "You-haul it!" signs by those that were in the 
boxes. The Tux I have on hold was among those dropped off. All the adoption 
fees were waived and donations were all that were requested.
Ken
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Sent: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 09:43:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Felvtalk] boxes of cats ??  (was:  Thank you all. . .


Hi Ken,



Which shelter is this? Just curious how someone could just drop off 
several boxes of cats...

Are they all doing well after being taken in at the shelter? Approx 
how old are the kittens?

This just boggles my mind.



Kat (Mew Jersey)



Sent:Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 
9:31 AM
From:kresch...@mchsi.com
To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject:[Felvtalk] Thank you all. . .

How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words 
about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some say 
there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the one who 
has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat waiting for 
me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our shelter arrived 
to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the door! In total there 
were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes. I saw a Tux among the mix and 
am going to see him today. Im also going to ask the vet to test him for 
FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the litter pan from Zorro 
just to be on the safe side.

Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might 
know,
Ken

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[Felvtalk] He went on his own time. . .

[kresch831]

Good Evening to all who just responded to Robert's "Anyone still there" email. 
This is my first post and I stumbled upon this site in my frantic effort to get 
info on FelV. Our tuxedo, Zorro, was with us barely a year when FelV took him 
in less than two weeks. I first saw him among the weeds and shrubs of my lower 
garden as he darted about, perhaps pursuing a field mouse. Over the next few 
weeks  I steadily coaxed him closer to the house with food, water and my 
appearances. Eventually he was on the back porch daily meowing for breakfast 
and our Teddy Bear dog, Oliver, watched Zorro eat from the other side of the 
screen door. By late September Zorro was eating in the house, finding the 
litter box and purring so loudly he could be heard from ten feet away. 

Zorro was neutered, vaccinated and checked over and quickly became the kindest, 
most lovable cat I've ever had and at 70 I've had a few! We all spent a 
wonderful year plus together and Oliver became so accepting of Zorro that he 
allowed himself to be groomed my him. All this came crashing down six weeks 
ago. Zorro slept more, did not jump into bed with me and though he ate, he ate 
in little spurts. We took him in, tried some antibiotics first since he had a 
fever but nothing changed. Then the blood tests; then the devastating news: 
FeLV. The Vet suggested we consider putting Zorro down since it was incurable. 
I said Zorro will decide that action. For the next ten days we bought time with 
Zorro using a coticosteroid via pills. But the inevitable came suddenly three 
Monday evenings back. Zorro was slowly walking and then just laid down. His 
breathing became labored and I lay down next to him whispering in his ears and 
stroking his side. I told him to go, he'd done it on his terms and w
 ithing five minutes he was still. 

We've buried him with his bed and special blanket to cover him and keep the 
soil off. He's now beneath a tree near where I first saw him.

Ken Resch

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Re: [Felvtalk] Wonderful, helpful answers,

[kresch831]

Loving cats is our mission!
- Original Message -
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To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:34:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Felvtalk] Wonderful, helpful answers,

I am still going to give the poor kitty a lot of love while he is here, it is 
so sad,
He was a stray someone has adopted brought to the vet! What a hard life these 
poor cats have.
My three cats are spoiled


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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

[kresch831]

My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with blood 
or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily through a 
bite.
- Original Message -
From: Theresa O'Rourke 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question

I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats.
My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate room 
for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after the cat 
goes back home?  It’s because I take care of other  friend’s cats also and want 
to know if they can catch
The disease. 

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[Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

[kresch831]

Dear Kitty Friends,
I've attached a number of exchanges regarding the use of Winstrol to combat 
FeLV. I;m taking my compilation to my vet and telling her (well firmly asking) 
to read through the information and begin to do her own research. Our vets need 
to do at least two pieces of research/investigation. First, they need to 
research the efficacy of using steroids on cats and secondly, they need to find 
legal supply routes to obtain Winstrol/Stargate. If I've missed any significant 
parts of our exchanges, please tell me and resend those parts. I'll add them to 
what we have and it will all be in one place. Thanks to all  of you for 
weighing in on this critical subject

Feline Leukemia notes.docx
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Re: [Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

[kresch831]

Hi Amani,
Yes, send what you have to kresch...@mchsi.com and I'll add them to our chat 
pieces and resend the whole "dossier" as an attachment to the chat line.
Ken
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From: Amani Oakley 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 10:13:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

I will email you directly with a bunch of other articles I have compiled, 
including the original scientific publication which appears to have started the 
whole hysteria regarding liver failure in cats being caused by Winstrol. I have 
highlighted and notated the study so you can see how very poorly designed the 
study is, and the serious flaws with their logic and conclusions.

I don’t think I can post attachments to this chatline.

Amani 

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kresch...@mchsi.com
Sent: November-03-17 10:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

Dear Kitty Friends,
I've attached a number of exchanges regarding the use of Winstrol to combat 
FeLV. I;m taking my compilation to my vet and telling her (well firmly asking) 
to read through the information and begin to do her own research. Our vets need 
to do at least two pieces of research/investigation. First, they need to 
research the efficacy of using steroids on cats and secondly, they need to find 
legal supply routes to obtain Winstrol/Stargate. If I've missed any significant 
parts of our exchanges, please tell me and resend those parts. I'll add them to 
what we have and it will all be in one place. Thanks to all  of you for 
weighing in on this critical subject
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Re: [Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

[kresch831]

I found them. I'll edit out address material and put all the pieces together as 
one dossier on the subject. Looks like you've done a massive amount of 
research! I believe if we offer this to our vets, they just may start to take 
nbotice. I'll get this out over the weekend.
Ken 
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From: Amani Oakley 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 11:03:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

I sent it already. There were  a lot of attachments, so check your Junk Mailbox 
in case it ended up in there.

Amani

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kresch...@mchsi.com
Sent: November-04-17 11:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

Hi Amani,
Yes, send what you have to kresch...@mchsi.com and I'll add them to our chat 
pieces and resend the whole "dossier" as an attachment to the chat line.
Ken
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From: Amani Oakley 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 10:13:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

I will email you directly with a bunch of other articles I have compiled, 
including the original scientific publication which appears to have started the 
whole hysteria regarding liver failure in cats being caused by Winstrol. I have 
highlighted and notated the study so you can see how very poorly designed the 
study is, and the serious flaws with their logic and conclusions.

I don’t think I can post attachments to this chatline.

Amani 

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kresch...@mchsi.com
Sent: November-03-17 10:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Compiled info on Winstrol

Dear Kitty Friends,
I've attached a number of exchanges regarding the use of Winstrol to combat 
FeLV. I;m taking my compilation to my vet and telling her (well firmly asking) 
to read through the information and begin to do her own research. Our vets need 
to do at least two pieces of research/investigation. First, they need to 
research the efficacy of using steroids on cats and secondly, they need to find 
legal supply routes to obtain Winstrol/Stargate. If I've missed any significant 
parts of our exchanges, please tell me and resend those parts. I'll add them to 
what we have and it will all be in one place. Thanks to all  of you for 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

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Good Morningh all--
I've been following the posts to Marlene and others regarding 
Winstrol/Stargate. I began following when my feral-turned-wonderful-domestic 
Tuxedo, Zorro, became ill with FeLV. We tried the Prednisolone route and he 
perked up for a week or so but then just slept more and more as his red count 
bottomed out. I laid next to him as he died and shared that with all of you at 
that time. What I'm writing about now is what we must do for future cats that 
may contract FeLV. I have printed the pertinent information that began with 
Amani and then others regarding Winstrol and Stargate minus any links and email 
addresses. I am taking this info to my Vet and telling her to start her 
research immediately. I will also tell her she could be the first Vet in our 
area to truly treat our kitties with a drug that works. If we all present the 
information we've been sharing we will begin a ground-swell of interest and 
hope.
Ken
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Prayers for you and your baby.

 marlene melpignano  wrote: 
> Dear all,
> Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
> found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome 
> myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
> What is better, pills or injections? 
> I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
> the liver compared to the injectable one .
> I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
> to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.
> 
> Thanks all for your support.
> Best
> M
> 
> Inviato da iPhone
> 
> > Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson 
> >  ha scritto:
> > 
> > Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> > his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> > stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd 
> > day, and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that 
> > they sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't 
> > remember the name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and 
> > syringe feed him a little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like 
> > having me do that, but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he 
> > had to have some food in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another 
> > good appetite stimulant. When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam 
> > juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful 
> > that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they hold a grudge against it 
> > because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our kitties have to 
> > suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also important to 
> > combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because the Doxy has 
> > some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. Best of luck 
> > with his treatment!!
> > 
> > Ardy
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > dlg...@windstream.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator 
> > - help
> > 
> > Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> > problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> > 
> >  marlene melpignano  wrote: 
> >> Dear All,
> >> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
> >> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a 
> >> conclusive result). 
> >> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have 
> >> a bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth 
> >> while.
> >> 
> >> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have 
> >> you treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
> >> 
> >> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
> >> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
> >> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
> >> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and 
> >> also whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about 
> >> using doxycycline.
> >> 
> >> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
> >> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is 
> >> not eating ... 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for your help 
> >> Marlène  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Inviato da iPhone
> >