[fibernet] Re: question about soy silk
We experimented in my class, and soy silk burned similarly to synthetics. Maybe I will try again (we're doing textile materials Monday)(it's a material culture class). What you have definitely sounds like bleached flax/linen to me. Jekka (in Boston)
Re: [fibernet] question about soy silk
On 3/17/09 10:45 AM, Katy Blanchard wrote: I would think that soy silk is cellulose as it's from soy beans. Soy beans are mostly oil and protein, with a little cellulose around the edges. Wikipedia says that soy silk is one of the azlons. Without the specific name of soy-based azlon, I didn't get anywhere with Google. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
Re: [fibernet] question about soy silk
Holly, I would think that soy silk is cellulose as it's from soy beans. Unless they add some real silk to it. Too bad about all your troubles! What a bummer! What has happened to customer service? Katy Blanchard Urban Eagle Design http://www.urbaneagledesign.etsy.com http://www.urbaneagleherbco.etsy.com http://www.urbaneagle.com Youngsville, New Mexico On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Holly Shaltz wrote: I've been coordinating group orders to Webs this year, and having a real problem with the spinning fibers a friend has ordered. Back in January she ordered silk top, which was loosely tossed into an old shopping bag, with the fiber so messed up that it could hardly be called top any longer. She wanted flax sliver, soy silk top, and camel down this time. What we got (I was charged for all three) was some very messed-up top, loosely stuffed in an old shopping bag, that was unlabeled, just like the silk I complained about 6 weeks earlier. I described the new problem to Webs, and they said they would refund the money for that fiber and send me the other two without charging me for shipping. I got the new fiber today. One was the camel down (unlabeled), easy enough to identify. The other was the SAME darn fiber type I got before, again unlabeled! The shipping form said flax. This stuff is somewhat stiffish, like I would expect of flax. It's quite white, nearly pure white, which I don't expect of flax. It's quite shiny, which I don't expect of flax. It burns very rapidly with very little smoke, no bead (or even ash), and a slight whiff of burning paper, like I do expect of flax. The fiber is around 5 inches long, which could be like flax top or soy silk. What I want to know is, is soy silk a protein fiber and would it burn with a smell of burning hair, or is it more cellulose and so would burn like paper? I need to figure out what this fiber is so I can make them send me the right stuff. I'm just disgusted that after having to complain about shipping problems with fibers, that they're doing the same thing all over again, and I certainly will NOT be ordering spinning fibers from Webs again. And don't get me started on how they keep sending me 16/2 linen instead of the 20/2 I ordered Holly very disappointed in a company I've purchased from for decades [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [fibernet] question about soy silk
Soy silk is a protein fiber. Sounds like bleached tow flax to me. Ellen Bloomfield ellen...@sheltielovers.net Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
[fibernet] question about soy silk
I've been coordinating group orders to Webs this year, and having a real problem with the spinning fibers a friend has ordered. Back in January she ordered silk top, which was loosely tossed into an old shopping bag, with the fiber so messed up that it could hardly be called top any longer. She wanted flax sliver, soy silk top, and camel down this time. What we got (I was charged for all three) was some very messed-up top, loosely stuffed in an old shopping bag, that was unlabeled, just like the silk I complained about 6 weeks earlier. I described the new problem to Webs, and they said they would refund the money for that fiber and send me the other two without charging me for shipping. I got the new fiber today. One was the camel down (unlabeled), easy enough to identify. The other was the SAME darn fiber type I got before, again unlabeled! The shipping form said flax. This stuff is somewhat stiffish, like I would expect of flax. It's quite white, nearly pure white, which I don't expect of flax. It's quite shiny, which I don't expect of flax. It burns very rapidly with very little smoke, no bead (or even ash), and a slight whiff of burning paper, like I do expect of flax. The fiber is around 5 inches long, which could be like flax top or soy silk. What I want to know is, is soy silk a protein fiber and would it burn with a smell of burning hair, or is it more cellulose and so would burn like paper? I need to figure out what this fiber is so I can make them send me the right stuff. I'm just disgusted that after having to complain about shipping problems with fibers, that they're doing the same thing all over again, and I certainly will NOT be ordering spinning fibers from Webs again. And don't get me started on how they keep sending me 16/2 linen instead of the 20/2 I ordered Holly very disappointed in a company I've purchased from for decades
Re: Dyeing soy silk
Pam, Thanks for your comments on soy silk. Interesting. When this came on the market recently, I wondered how the yarns would hold up when made into finished goods, take dyes, etc. Every vendor was extolling the properties of the fiber, but no one - not even the Chinese sites that were manufacturing the fiber - gave any information on laundering, wrinkling, durability, etc. of the finished cloth. Apparently soy silk was on the market a long time ago in the early days of synthetics and didn't hold up to UV light well and disappeared. Not they can mix UV inhibitors into the chemical goo before extrusion and solve that issue, but I'm still waiting for more results to cme in before using any in my spinning or weaving. Did the Kool-Aid (acid dye) dyed skein at least retain the color after washing? Sara von Tresckow Fond du Lac, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Web Site: http://www2.powercom.net/~sarav Temple plans for weavers. 5-needle sock directions for spinners and knitters. To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
RE: Dyeing soy silk
There was an article in one of the spring, 2004 (I think) issue of Spinoff about spinning w. soy silk and another little piece in which an author compares results with several diff. dye processes with soy. Very useful. Jessica DeForest __ ella for Spam Control has removed Spam messages and set aside Newsletters for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Soy Silk Dyeing
Diane, Soy Silk dyes best with acid dyes. It is from the protein waste of making tofu. Lea Bennett The Wheelwright http://www.thewheelwright.com To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
dyeing soy silk
I'm confused. I think of soybeans in terms of providing protein, so I would think that soy silk would dye with an acid dye. However, I was looking at websites, and someone had listed a cotton dye as dyieng other plant fibers including soy silk. Isn't soy silk made from the bean, not the woody plant material? What dye does it take? = Diane Pinkers, DVM Raymond WA __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: dyeing soy silk
In all of my dye baths it has behaved like a protein fiber. The really weird thing is that in dye bath with wool, silk and soy silk, sometimes it takes the color like wool, sometimes like silk and occasionally it does something completely different than either. Strange stuff. Ruby Sheffer From= Diane Pinkers, DVM Raymond WA Isn't soy silk made from the bean, not the woody plant material? What dye does it take? To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Dyeing soy silk
Hi Diane, I bought some soy silk yarn and found that the dye washed out in practically anything I used. I ran an experiment -- All laundry detergent essentially stripped out all the dye; Dawn dishwashing liquid came close as did Oxyclean; even Suave lavender shampoo took out about half the color. My assumption is that it was dyed with a cotton or cellulose dye. I stripped out the color on one of the skeins and redyed it with Kool-Aid, which takes just fine. And Merike Saarnit says that in her experience (which she admits is not extensive), acid dyes take well on soy silk. (Although she told me I might want to use Rit dye just to be on the safe side.) Soy silk is made from the residue of tofu production. Tofu is protein. The seed of the soy plant is protein. If the fiber came from the rest of the plant, it would dye with cellulose dyes. That is my take on the subject anyway. Buying this yarn is probably the most expensive mistake I've ever made in the fiber arena, but I am doing a lot of experimenting on it. Beware if you try to strip or dye this fiber because apparently it is irreparably damaged by too much heat. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost the message I received about this, but there is a temperature above which the fiber becomes stiff and scratchy (very un-silk like!). Maybe someone else on the list can add to this. I did destroy one skein of yarn, apparently by overheating it either in the stripping or the dyeing (or both). It is now pretty useless because I can't think of a single thing I could do with it in this state, except maybe tie up plants in the garden! This is only my opinion, based on my own experience and experiments, YMMV. Pamm in Milwaukee To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Stiff soy silk
Hi all, I have been working with a skein of soy silk that I bought already dyed last year. I soon discovered that some, if not all, of the dye easily washed out. In fact, I have not found anything with which to wash this stuff that doesn't strip out at least half of the color. I ran a series of tests to determine what would strip out the most, figuring that if the dye was going to come out, I might as well get it out and start over with a color I liked better. A good soak in plain old All laundry detergent and hot water did the best job in my tests, so I did that to an entire hank of the yarn. It stripped all the dye out, but it left the yarn feeling stiff and scratchy, although I rinsed it forever. The fiber was also not that beautiful golden color that undyed soy silk is. It was a kind of pale, grayed version of it. Yesterday I Kool-Aid dyed the yarn a very nice sage green. This morning when it has had a chance to mostly dry, however, I noticed that it is again stiff and scratchy where it has dried. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Has something been removed from the soy silk that made it soft and drapey? Is there something I can do to remedy this? I had intended to knit a beaded scarf out of the yarn, but I can't imagine putting something this scratchy around my neck! Thanks, Pamm in Milwaukee To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: Stiff soy silk
Have you tried contacting the Soy Silk people? erica To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: Stiff soy silk
Real silk when dyed is also stiff. I snap it back into the pliable spinnable silk. I'm assuming the soy silk may have the same problem. Try taking a short length of it and, holding with both hands on each end, give it a couple of snaps and see if that doesn't soften it some. On Monday, June 14, 2004, at 08:43 AM, Pamm Kasper wrote: Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Has something been removed from the soy silk that made it soft and drapey? Is there something I can do to remedy this? I had intended to knit a beaded scarf out of the yarn, but I can't imagine putting something this scratchy around my neck! Sage McKenzie http://sagemckenzie.com To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: Stiff soy silk
Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Has something been removed from the soy silk that made it soft and drapey? Is there something I can do to remedy this? I had intended to knit a beaded scarf out of the yarn, but I can't imagine putting something this scratchy around my neck! HI! To me, it sounds like the soy silk got fried during the first dyeing process. If I remember correctly one cannot bring soy silk to near boiling temps otherwise it melts. You mentioned that the original dyed color got completely stripped out by washing it with soap, and that to me is another sign of a bad dye job. I have seem this before in wool that got fried while being dyed. It feels brittle, breaks easily, and is very scratchy. Is there a chance you could speak to the person/company that sold you this skein and ask for a refund or exchange? Carla in Durham, NC To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
RE: Stiff soy silk
All has a pH of 9 or more. It will strip out dye in wool too.I've had it strip out the Cushing reds. The high pH will also tend to make the fiber abrasive. You might try to soak it in vinegar to return it to a neutral pH of 7 or less. If that doesn't work, then in my opinion the fiber is damaged from the alkaline wash in All. Gail White To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: soy silk qualities
Sage asked about my experience with burning ecospun. I didn't burn it, since I figured as a polyester it would act polyesterish (ie melt as it burned). Maybe I'll try (in a safe space). Presumably it would make some difference whether it is in the spun or unspun condition, as unspun it's got more available oxygen right there mixed in with the fibers. By the way, in researching for this class, I found out that what would seem like an urban myth, that a woman in the 1940s had her nylons dissolve when she was hit by bus exhaust, actually may have been true -- just the right combinations of acids and other air pollution could instantly break down nylon. (I'm assuming they did some work and fixed this problem, as I'd never heard of it until reading Jeffrey Meikle's American Plastic: A Cultural History) -- Jessica Sewell Assistant Professor Art History Department Boston University 725 Commonwealth Avenue Boston MA 02215 tel. 617-353-1464 fax 617-353-3243 American and New England Studies Program Boston University 226 Bay State Road Boston MA 02215 tel. 617-353-9913 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
soy silk qualities
Hello all. I've moved once again (Berkeley to Binghamton to NYC to Boston now) and am teaching a course on material culture at BU. I told my students about the burn test (it was in a lecture about textiles and fibers, in which I'd handed out baggies of fibers to small groups of students to feel, describe, and guess as to what they were). The last baggie had trilobal nylon, ecospun, and soy silk, representing artificial fibers, and students asked what would happen if we burned the soy silk, given that it was a natural material (and proteins usually do the acrid thing, while cellulose fiberss burn clean). Not knowing, I went ahead and tried it, and it melted. Now I'm really curious. Does anybody have a good idea why it melted? If I just had some rayon and some ingeo, I'd try it out on them too. I hope one of you out there is a chemist and can help both me and my students out on this one. Thanks, Jekka (now in Boston) -- Jessica Sewell Assistant Professor Art History Department Boston University 725 Commonwealth Avenue Boston MA 02215 tel. 617-353-1464 fax 617-353-3243 American and New England Studies Program Boston University 226 Bay State Road Boston MA 02215 tel. 617-353-9913 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: soy silk qualities
I'm curious as to what your experience with ecospun was when burned. I did a burn test on it and found it extremely flammable so I would be reluctant to recommend it for children's garments. On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 09:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he last baggie had trilobal nylon, ecospun, and soy silk, representing artificial fibers, Sage McKenzie http://sagemckenzie.com To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
soy silk and those others
Does anyone know how soy silk is made? Is it a bast fiber like flax, ramie, and hemp? Just curious. Anne To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: soy silk and those others
Soy Silk,,was developed in 1937, was the first of the vegetable protien fibers. It came out about same time as rayon, and before nylon,,,all similar process,,base (cotton or other cellulose for rayon, petroleum for nylon, soy for soy silk) processed to produce a long chain protien molecule. Liquid form, extruded into a fixative bath that instantly turns it into a pliable strand, from there on, pretty much like any other fiber, each with its own properties. Inspiration for process was spider spinning their silk and silk worms doing same. Soy silk did not catch on because it would quickly break down under UV light, that problem is now solved and soy silk is starting to come back. A lot of newer man made fibers have come out, but all have similar background. Noteworthy is that fact that now soy silk is a byproduct of making Tofu, the unsued parts of the soy mash mostly portien, some carbohydrate, are reprocessed and become soy silk. To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Soy Silk
Holin, For more information on Soy Silk, go to http://www.soysilk.com/ Many vendors now carry this fiber as well as Bamboo Ingeo (from corn). The price is usually the same everywhere, but shipping will vary, due to method of shipment and distance. Try your favorite vendor for these items. Lea Bennett The Wheelwright http://www.TheWheelwright.com To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Soy Silk
Clear DayHolin, For more information on Soy Silk, go to http://www.soysilk.com/ Many vendors now carry this fiber as well as Bamboo Ingeo (from corn). The price is usually the same everywhere, but shipping will vary, due to method of shipment and distance. Try your favorite vendor for these items. Lea Bennett The Wheelwright http://www.TheWheelwright.com To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: Soy silk
The Soy Protein Fiber is actually made from the beans. The natural color is a golden tan but it also comes bleached. The bleached fiber still has a hint of very pale yellow. It is very soft and shiny. The staple is about 3.5 in. It feels very nice in your hands when spinning but it is a little slippery and the yarn does not have elasticity or memory. I much prefer to blend it with wool then it is divine. I've experimented with blending it with my Cormo and like a 80/20% Cormo/Soy roving. I bought a large quantity of the bleached soy fiber to make the blended Cormo roving but I am also willing to sell the plain soy roving. Sue Cormo Sheep Wool Farm http://www.cwo.com/~reuser Orland, CA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I was intrigued by the skeins of soy silk. Do the fibers come from the stalks of the plant? What is it like to spin, and where can I get some to try out? Holin Kennen To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: Soy silk
Just a question on this material - soy silk was tried once before right after WWII as were many new synthetics. Does anyone know why it didn't catch on then?? And what are supposed to be the washing and wearing properties of this fiber. Newly spun it sounds decent enough, but does anyone have experience with garments or items made from it and how they hold up - pilling, shrinking, stretching, etc??? Sara von Tresckow Fond du Lac, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Web Site - Free Temple Plans FLAXCAM http://www2.powercom.net/~sarav To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Soy silk
I also enjoyed the skeins this time very much. I was intrigued by the skeins of soy silk. Do the fibers come from the stalks of the plant? What is it like to spin, and where can I get some to try out? Holin Kennen To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Azlons, was Soy Silk
I couldn't sleep last night and Googled for soy silk. Came up with a few pages selling it, all quoting the same description with the same typo, and about a zillion discussions of soy milk -- it seems that you can't list the names of the major brands of soy milk without putting one that begins with silk after one that ends with soy. Then I got inspired and searched for regenerated fiber, got a zillion hits, and pared it down by adding protein to the keywords. Probably would have gotten better results by searching for regenerated protein fiber. Anyhow, I found an antique-fabric collector's page that gave the whole history of azlons. (Azlon is the general term for regenerated-protein fibers.) They first appeared in the thirties, took off during the shortages of WWII, then faded out when synthetic fibers were developed, and none have been made in this country -- presumably the U.S.A. -- since 1973, and few are now made overseas, but zein -- corn-protein azlon -- persists in waterproof coatings for pills and suchlike special uses. About the turn of the millennium, China started showing interest in reviving regenerated soy-bean fiber, because (I speculate) they don't have a large cattle-feeding industry to eat up the cake left from making soybean oil. As early as 1937 soybean fiber was showing promise of usefulness in the textile field. It was the first textile filament to be spun from protein of vegetable origin. Casein fiber was the first azlon -- or leastways the earliest that I noticed while reading at two a.m. -- but had the unfortunate property of being damaged by contact with water, which made it hard to dye. All this poses a problem for antique-fiber collectors, because azlons can be told from wool only by inspecting them with a microscope -- they react exactly the same in burn tests and chemical tests. -- Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/WEB/WEB.HTM west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
soy silk
Hi Lea I just did my first dyeing experiments with some natural colored soy silk, and was very pleased with the results. Noticed that the dye did not penetrate all the fiber as much as I had thought (painted some rovings) and will take care next time to pre wet by soaking overnight the way I do with silk. Love the color of the natural fiber and had deliberately planned a color scheme using some plain areas, so it all worked out just fine. Now I'm spinning away. This fiber wants to spin fine and really does resemble silk, but seems a little easier on my hands (shorter fibers?). Using a fat core bobbin on my Louet, crossing the hooks for less take-up. Ruby, you mentioned a cone of white soy silk yarn - may I ask where you found that? Susan in Maine Goose Pond Original designs in Christmas ornaments and jewelry http://www.goosepond.com I have been playing with some Soy Silk. Has anyone else been trying this fabulous fiber? Comments, tips and general discussion very welcome. Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
soy silk
One of our guild members came home from Rheinbeck with soy silk. She just couldn't resist. The color is a uniform beige. I haven't played with it, and I don't believe she has spun any yet. Just a curiosity so far. More when and if I have some more experience. Anne To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Soy Silk
I have been playing with some Soy Silk. Has anyone else been trying htis fabulous fiber? Comments, tips and general discussion very welcome. Lea Bennett The Wheelwright http://www.TheWheelwright.com To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: Soy Silk
I've spun up and dyed a lot of the natural soy silk. It can be distinguished from lusterous spun silk if you put them side to side but otherwise it would be difficult. Still trying to sort out what I make of the pre-spun bleached white. On the cone it looks a lot like semi-lusterous cotton..a bit dissapointing but it still takes natural dyes like silk and is almost as strong. Ruby To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Soy silk
Someone sent me some to blend with her Cormo wool. This was the natural color and we tried blending it at 10, 20 and 30%. The 10% added some luster and silkiness to the wool, and didn't change the color much. The 20% gave it a warm, creamy color and added a lot of sheen. At 30%, I had trouble getting it through the carding machine, and it made a big difference in the color. I liked the feeling of all 3 blends, but the 10 and 20% are probably the best, depending on the skill of the spinner. It is definitely different from regular silk! When blending it, I found it best to pull it into as small pieces as you can, then picking it with a small amount of wool really helped to get an even blend. Has anyone seen the bleached soy silk?? Belinda Morgan Ewe Gotta Love 'Em Fiber Processing and Matilda Sheep Covers 15800 Stringtown Rd. S.E. Dayton, Oregon 97114-8024 (503)864-3008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
Re: Soy silk
Someone sent me some to blend with her Cormo wool. This was the natural color and we tried blending it at 10, 20 and 30%. The 10% added some Has anyone seen the bleached soy silk?? Belinda Morgan That someone is me and I like the blend so much that I ordered a whole bunch of the bleached directly from China. It is floating somewhere along the coast of CA so I should be able to tell you about it next week. So far I've only seen pictures of the bleached top. I just love the way Belinda's Cormo/Soy roving spins. I was determined to get small skein spun and a swatch knitted so I could put some pictures on my web site but I've gotten side tracked again. The first shearing day is fast approaching and I'm frantically mending sheep coats and clearing out the shop to make room for the new fleeces. I wonder if the reason that the soy fiber works so well with wool is because it is also a protein fiber so at least the chemical if not the physical characteristics are similar. It is nice that they have similar tolerances to heat and pH. Sue Cormo Sheep Wool Farm http://www.cwo.com/~reuser Sue Reuser 7311 Lindsay Ave. Orland, CA 95963 (530) 865-0255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
RE: soy silk
Wow this looks really beautiful. I haven't tried it but will have to get some. Pat Lees Wildflower Farm Rosholt, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://my.voyager.net/~sheeplady Hi folks - The weaving list is all a-chatter about soy silk. Has anyone here tried it? http://www.soysilk.com/Index.html To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
soy silk
Hi folks - The weaving list is all a-chatter about soy silk. Has anyone here tried it? http://www.soysilk.com/Index.html Robin Murphy, in the Northwoods of Wisconsin, where the wind and rain are blowing the leaves down before they have all turned. :-( [EMAIL PROTECTED] To stop mail temporarily mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: set nomail To restore send: set mail
