Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing

2004-02-19 Thread Davo van Peursen
more easy:
in an optimised system press and hold your mouse from the bottom of the page to the staff you want to bring down;
no SHIFT-clicking is then necessary.

Davo

Op 20-feb-04 om 3:29 heeft Brad Beyenhof het volgende geschreven:

To add to that:

I would love to have the possibility of defining staff groups (like in
scroll view) that move up or down in a similar manner.  For instance, when
doing layout on a full band score, I often want to reposition just the saxes
(for instance) when making room, and not move every single staff below the
one I'm currently moving.

-- 
Brad Beyenhof
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On Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

I don't think such a plugin exists.  I don't know if it's 
even feasible.

But, short of what David describes, what I would *love* from 
Finale (as 
a realistic stop-gap measure) would be the ability to 
*easily* move one 
staff up or down and have all the staves below shift up or 
down by the 
same amount.  I know you can do this by drag-enclosing staff handles 
from the bottom up, but this is an incredible pain to do 
every time you 
want to nudge a staff a little.  Consequently, I use TGTools 
Staff List 
Manager most of the time instead, but this is a bit of a kludge for 
something that ought to be built in to Finale.  I don't know about 
anyone else, I almost never want to move one staff up or down 
and have 
all the subsequent staves hold their positions.  It would be nice if 
there were an on/off toggle for this -- maybe Move all staves below 
the selected staff or something -- so that you didn't have to 
drag-enclose from the bottom up every last time, or fire up the Staff 
List Manager to make minor adjustments.

- Darcy

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On 19 Feb 2004, at 07:39 PM, David Froom wrote:

Hello all,

My apologies if you are reading this more than once.  My 
email server 
is
sending (or not sending) messages unpredictably. (This is 
the last of 
three
messages I've been trying to send out over the past week).

I was speaking with a friend who used to be a Score user.  
He now uses
Sibelius (which looked rather good on his Windows machine, 
especially 
fast
at inserting measures, changing meters, rebarring).  Anyway, he was
bemoaning the loss of something he adored in Score.  He 
said that in 
Score
one could set the location of the top and bottom staff of a 
system on a
page, and the internal staves would respace themselves evenly, but 
would
also shift, making extra space, to avoid having elements 
bump into each
other.

How I would kill for such a thing (which my former 
Score-using friend 
said
didn't exist in Sibelius either) -- saving all the time in 
orchestral 
works
eyeballing the staff shifting from page to optimized 
page.  I used 
to use
Jari's space systems, which saved some time -- but it is gone now
(FinMac2004).  I know about the TG tools thing which works 
sort of like
Jari's:  you give an evpu number for the distance from the 
top system 
to the
bottom system, and it will spread the staves evenly (and you get to 
choose
whether it compresses or expands or both).  But it doesn't 
search for
conflicts and move things to avoid them.

Can someone write a plug in that would do intelligently 
manage vertical
spacing within systems?  Or has this been done, and I just haven't 
heard
about it -- or it is too difficult to do?

(By the way -- don't you guys love the way spell check suggests 
interesting
words?  My spell check offers, for Sibelius, libelous -- what a 
hoot!).

David Froom

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RE: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review

2003-08-14 Thread Davo van Peursen
Take it easy.
Why should we be disappointed or even furious?
Don't forget that estimated 70% of the use of Finale is illegal.
It is copied on music schools etc.
So far Finale did survive with their unprotected policy.
But it is wise to protect the software.
Forcing illegal customers to pay.
Finale is still a cheap program compared to Sibelius.
And all the new features are very promising
and deserves our loyal support.

Davo
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 From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
 Sent: Friday, August 8, 2003 15:41 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review
 
 At 02:35 PM 8/8/03 +0200, d. collins wrote:
 And what about installing it and using on a laptop with no internet 
 connection? Is that easily done?
 
 Does that mean this is okay with you? Not even a whisper of protest?
 Everybody else thinks this is fine, too?
 
 It's not with me. I just sent this email to the Finale order desk.
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I made a 2004 pre-order yesterday on the basis of the information on
 Makemusic's website.
 
 It turns out that the website was misleading when it said there was no copy
 protection. Challenge-response *is* copy protection as understood by the
 user community, and only by a Clintonian turn of phrase about what is is
 is it anything else.
 
 Protected products are unacceptable. I have been a loyal customer since
 version 2.2 ([serial #]). That's ten years of loyalty, except when you did
 the key disk protection in Finale 98, which I also did not buy. Copy
 protection immediately suggests that Makemusic is in trouble, and I'm not
 about to hitch my wagon to a failing company.
 
 I am very disappointed not only with your Makemusic's actions, but also its
 attempts to cover them up by hiding how a Finale 2004 purchaser will be
 forever tied to the fortunes of Makemusic. You didn't even describe the
 technology, so we can't even know if it contains the PACE virus.
 
 That is unacceptable in any form, and I am furious with this sort of spite
 you show against your loyal and honest customers. Please credit the amount
 below immediately, or, if it hasn't been charged yet, cancel the order and
 confirm the cancellation. And then forward this to your decision makers,
 and let me know about their plans to drop this behavior.
 
 There is one acceptable action, and that is to put a universal unlock key
 in escrow with a third party that will be released when Makemusic can or
 will no longer provide full support for Finale 2004 (that condition to be
 determined by an objective third party), coupled with full disclosure on
 the website of the program behavior, the owner of the universal unlock key,
 and the future support schedule.
 
 My radio show is tomorrow -- one of the best known shows among composers --
 and I certainly don't want to miss the opportunity to talk about what
 Makemusic has done to their loyal composer community.
 
 The order number was [order #].
 The order total to credit is [amount].
 
 Dennis
 Kalvos  Damian's New Music Bazaar
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[Finale] Finale+Reason+OMS

2003-02-12 Thread Davo van Peursen
Can anyone help me to reach Reason sample within Finale through OMin MacOS 9.2?
Is that possible and how should I setup?

Much appreciated!

Davo van Peursen
The Netherlands
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