Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible
On 21.04.2004 14:13 Uhr, gj.berg wrote re the other command/option/shift and click screen to reduce and blammo 5%! Works fine in OS X. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible
On 21.04.2004 14:16 Uhr, Philip Aker wrote On Tuesday, Apr 20, 2004, at 14:56 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: In fact I _really_ hope that OS 9 will be dropped for 2k5 in favour of a bug free, speedier OS X. Concerning EPS manquée, would you find Import/Export PDF facilities instead of EPS to be a viable option? No. For several reasons: Currently Finale is not really compatible with documents created in earlier versions, if they include EPS graphics. I really don't want to go over these documents one by one and change the included EPS files into PDFs. So I need it to work the same as before, just to stay compatible with my files. Many of the apps I use regularly do not provide PDF input in any way that can be as easily handled as EPS. I have to be able to include incipits easily in my word processor, publishing app etc. With PDF this would be a lot more difficult under current circumstances. Last but not least it is my experience that a PDF of the same vector graphic tends to be much larger. I know this doesn't seem to make much sense, but it seems to be the case. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks
I have actually had a lot of experience with this. I would never consider floppies as a save media, too many of them have failed on my. Johannes On 21.04.2004 16:48 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote I've heard this said, but I started using floppies in 1980 (TRS-80 and Color Computer), and even those are still readable nearly a quarter-century later. A friend who still has a working 5-inch drive has been transferring my old articles with no trouble, so I know they're still good. My 10-year-old PC-based floppies are still fine; I have one machine with a legacy floppy drive still working, and I've been transferring material to CDR to consolidate it. I've had worse luck with Zip disks (50% failure over time with these!), CDRs, and hard drives than I ever had with floppies. What gave rise to the idea that floppies were unreliable? Is it just because they tended to be stored badly? Or was it a system-dependent recording method? -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] INSTALLATION ALERT - 2004B MAC
On 21.04.2004 20:41 Uhr, Arkady wrote My SUGGESTION to MakeMusic is to PROMPTLY ALERT all it's User Base about that prompt VIA MASS EMAIL, and POSTING IT IN BIG RED LETTERS NEAR THE DOWNLOAD NOW BUTTON ON THEIR WEB SITE! Why? No harm was done, nor would have been done whichever choice you clicked. The installer was merely asking you whether you wanted to keep your FinaleScript Scripts or replace them with the 2004b ones (which I assume were pretty much the same). The only thing that could have happened was that the installer deleted your home made Finale scripts. To avoid that you could have clicked skip. I really do not see a problem here. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not to upgrade
If you do not depend on EPS files (both import and export) then you should upgrade. Finale 2004 has a wealth of new features which you will love, and it runs native in OS X actually making it much more stable. It is still slow. However, for me this is now mostly the reaction to some of the keyboard commands for menus, which are _really_ slow depending on the number of items in the plugin menu/submenus. Other than that it works satisfactory on my G4 500 upgraded Wallstreet Powerbook running Panther. Johannes On 20.04.2004 23:55 Uhr, Martin Banner wrote I have been using Finale 2003 on my Mac quite satisfactorily, thank you, for well over a year, even on my brand new Powerbook laptop. I've been considering upgrading to FinMac 2004, but have seen all the posts here about bug after bug after bug. Since I would be using 2004 in OSX on my laptop, I don't want to end up starting some new projects for my publishers and then be miserable for having switched from 2003. With the 2004 updates, have most of the bugs been fixed to run Finale in OSX on a Mac powerbook? Thanks for your collective thoughts. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks
On 20.04.2004 8:42 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote My recently defunct Mac could read both PC disks and old 800K Mac disks. I had a pile of ancient 800K floppies which I recycled and used for backing up small files. Just be careful, floppies are _very_ unreliable for backups. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [OT] OSX 10.3.3 Preview
On 20.04.2004 21:22 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote Can the Preview app in OS X 10.3.3 convert files from PDF to PS/EPS? Although I haven't tried, I guess you can use the postscript printer driver to compile a PS listing. EPS, no I don't think that's possible. Also, does it handle PDF links, like the ones in the Finale manual that bring you to different places in the document, or even to a pre-defined place in another document? It handles them, but it cannot create them, if that was your question. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible
On 20.04.2004 22:49 Uhr, gj.berg wrote The meta-tool resize command is all messed up -- you hit for half size and dang if it doesn't decide to go all the way down to 5%. What do you mean by the meta-tool resize command? The bubble tools are even larger -- more screen space gone. What's that for? I haven't tried it in OS 9, but in OS X you can choose the old palette style. I am sure OS 9 allows that too. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible
On 20.04.2004 23:15 Uhr, Philip Aker wrote I think it best if the OS 9 version was dropped. In fact, it might have been cheaper for Coda to buy the 2 users still running it new G5s rather than pay the engineers for the several months of effort put into it. I wouldn't have put it quite as radical, but I agree. It makes no sense for any software company to invest into OS 9 development. It's wasted time, imo. In fact I _really_ hope that OS 9 will be dropped for 2k5 in favour of a bug free, speedier OS X. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks
On 19.04.2004 15:55 Uhr, Aaron Sherber wrote Other than that, there are PC programs which let us read Mac disks. Take a look at TransMac (www.asy.com) or MacDrive (www.mediafour.com) Beware: these programs will almost certainly not be able to read old Mac 800k floppies. (As far as I know that's actually a physical problem, the PC drives cannot read Mac 800k disks.) Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks
On 19.04.2004 16:36 Uhr, Aaron Sherber wrote Ah, yes, sorry about that -- it's been a while since I tackled this problem. Do current (or recent) Mac floppy drives read the older disks? If so, then you could get a friend to transfer the files to 1.44 disks, and then get them to a PC. Come to think of it, if you've got a friend with a newer Mac who can read the older disks, *they* could email the files somewhere. Or just transfer them to PC Format disks, Macs with superdrives (pretty much any Mac after the SE) can format and write PC disks. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks
On 19.04.2004 17:01 Uhr, Phil Daley wrote At 4/19/2004 10:51 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Or just transfer them to PC Format disks, Macs with superdrives (pretty much any Mac after the SE) can format and write PC disks. And newer Macs can read the old 800K disks? At least until Macs stopped having any Floppy drives at all. Which happened with the first generation iMac. So any Mac before that would be good. You have to run OS 9 or older to read old Floppies, though. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] KeyBug?
I don't think this is related, I think I know the bug you mean. I haven't quite worked out how to get out of that dilemma, but I somehow always managed to. This has to do with some clef options that are a little difficult to understand, I guess, and certainly something is buggy, but it doesn't actually corrupt the file in my experience. Johannes On 19.04.2004 19:09 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote I haven't been playing close attention to this thread, but I have WinFin2K3 and I have experienced a problem that is at least similar on a number of occasions. It manifests itself like this: 1. change a clef starting with a particular measure. 2. do some other things. 3. come back and try to change the clef in the first measure of the new clef, and doubleclicking has no effect -- nothing happens. Sorry to not be more specific, but I've grown so used to it that I don't really think about it. It's just another one of those things in recent versions of Finale that just no longer work reliably. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004
On 17.04.2004 6:03 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote The Staff List Manager has a Redraw button that is supposed to update the distance between staves based on the changes you've made, without closing the dialog box. This button doesn't work in FinMac2004, and I'm almost certain it's related to the Edit Margins problem. I find the button does work, but only the second time it is clicked. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004
On 17.04.2004 11:40 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote Interesting. For me, the button doesn't work no matter how many times I press it. The screen doesn't redraw until I close the Staff List Manager. Do you also have the problem with the Edit Margins dialogs? The screen is supposed to update when you press Enter (or hit the Apply button), but (for Chuck and me, at least) that doesn't work. We have to click inside the main document window for the change to take effect. No, I have not had this problem, at least not enough to notice. I wonder whether the simplest thing is to just move your preference file out of the preferences folder and test whether this fixes your problem. You can always move it back if it doesn't. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004
On 17.04.2004 16:49 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote I used to do this, but a while back I found that unchecking Save Preferences on Quit effectively eliminated the problem of preferences becoming corrupted, so I got lazy about backing them up. It seems that Fin2004 tends to corrupts preferences even when that option is unchecked. I am sure it only corrupts preferences when you save them, if at all. I have this unchecked also. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Enter key, undo shortcut bugs in MacFin2004
On 16.04.2004 0:53 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote On 4/15/04 3:42 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I need to be able to make EPSs of parts of pages. I need this all the time for all sorts of things. I'm stumped. What types of projects require part-of-page EPS files? Entering bits of music into text documents? Wouldn't a high-resolution TIFF work there? No. I also use EPSs for ossias in Finale (for footnotes, much easier than using the ossia tool). TIFF is not an option as these go out as PDFs in the end, and I would need at least 1200 dpi TIFs, which blow up the PDF size. Besides, I really want these to be vector graphics, which always print better than TIFFs (that's a fact, even if one can't see it easily). Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MacFin2004b in Classic?
On 16.04.2004 1:43 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote Unless there is some trick to it that I'm not aware of, it seems that peoples' fears were true -- there does not appear to be any way to run MacFin2004b in the Classic environment. Or am I missing something? The website says that the download only updates the OSX version. For it to be able to run in OS9, you have to get the CD. My guess is that the CD version will also be able to run in Classic, but like Eric said... Why? My guess is it won't run in the classic environment. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] eps options for FinMac 2k4+
First of all I am not convinced that those EPS files work properly. PS files produced this way certainly don't. But apart from this I really need to be able to easily save parts of pages as EPS. The emphasis is on easily. Such work arounds are far too much work for a work flow that worked fine in 2k3. Johannes On 16.04.2004 6:57 Uhr, Randolph Peters wrote I can understand why people are upset that the ability to make eps files from within Finale Mac 2004(b) is a missing feature. I don't understand why people feel they have no options. Here is something that I wrote to the list a few weeks ago and it still applies with the 2004b update: ** ** I just got my copy of Finale Mac 2004 and one of the first things I tested was a way to generate postscript files, pdf files as well as eps. My printer driver (Mac OS 10.3.2) lets me save a print job as postscript or as a pdf. To get an eps file from either of those outputs you can drop the file onto Graphic Converter and save as an eps. There are other programs that can also do this, but Graphic Converter is cheap ($35), has a long demo period if you just want to try it out, and is the Swiss Army Knife of graphic programs. http://www.lemkesoft.de/en/graphdownload.htm ** ** Is there something about the output of Graphic Converter that isn't suitable? I want to know so that I won't keep recommending GC for this kind of work. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MacFin2004b in Classic?
On 16.04.2004 1:30 Uhr, Eric Dannewitz wrote Um, why would you want to? Or am I missing something as well? Darcy James Argue wrote: Unless there is some trick to it that I'm not aware of, it seems that peoples' fears were true -- there does not appear to be any way to run MacFin2004b in the Classic environment. Or am I missing something? Well, I did say this weeks ago, but for some reason some smart fellows said this was not even possible. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: Finale Authorization Code
On 16.04.2004 10:27 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote I can't even begin to understand why you would publish your User Code and Authorization code -- did you have a question about this or something? I do hope you aren't trying to publicize them so that people who have unauthorized copies can try to use them. If he was, it won't help, it's hardware dependent. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] eps options for FinMac 2k4+
The worst about this whole EPS dilemma is that Finale is also unable to import EPS files properly (or rather to print them properly). It seems to print them fine directly to my printer (a postscript printer, naturally) but they do not render properly to PDF. In addition Finale is also unable to produce postscript code that Ghostscript can handle properly (I get various fonts in bitmap, and EPS doesn't render properly either. So in effect a lot of things which worked fine beforehand simply do not work any more. Which means I have some older files which are simply incompatible with 2k4. Very frustrating. I am revising one of these now, and did all the work in 2k4, only to stumble about this problem. Now I guess I will have to do it all again in 2k3. And in Classic (ie no keyboard macros). Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] eps options for FinMac 2k4+
On 16.04.2004 15:42 Uhr, Randolph Peters wrote I did some more testing with Graphics Converter and found that it easily imports and exports TIF and can convert them to EPS. You can also edit and trim the files easily in GC. The problem with the exported EPS files is that you can't see the content of them in Finale, although they do print out. The print out is also smudgy compared to the original. I am afraid you are missing the point. The EPS files Finale used to produce were in vector format, which has a lot of advantages over bitmap formats like TIFF. No way can Graphic converter convert Bitmap TIFFs into proper vector EPS, so this is completely useless. I think this discussion has reached a point where I'd like to say this: If you never used EPS and don't know what they are for you will probably not understand why others need them so desperately. Fact is, we do need them, badly. Let's not try to find any more work arounds of this nature, nothing but EPS will do for us, sorry. And we, or at least I, need them produced directly in Finale, in the same way it worked before. And I also need Finale to import EPS files properly, the way it worked before. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Enter key, undo shortcut bugs in MacFin2004
On 15.04.2004 23:59 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote It's not that I'm steering clear of it; I actually haven't started many new engraving projects since I got it. All continuing projects are still going on in the version I used to start them. In any case, I found that the Art department at work can extract their EPS files from the OSX-created PDFs (that is, since the font pack came out), so the lack of EPS files is no longer a problem for me. Actually, I recently found out that the Preview app in Panther (10.3) can view PS and EPS files. Can it convert PDF files into EPS? That might be a good work-around for all of the EPS problems, if people haven't checked whether their EPS-using clients can accept PDF files. I need to be able to make EPSs of parts of pages. I need this all the time for all sorts of things. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Enter key, undo shortcut bugs in MacFin2004
I have not seen the problem you describe. However, I do have my own battle with keyboard shortcuts: Some of them are extremely slow and unresponsive (2 seconds until anything happens). I have worked out that this depends on the number of items in the plugin menu (including submenus). There is also a temporary fix: Press command-P and cancel out of the dialog. After this all shortcuts are fast and responsive. Until I change tools or view. The only workaround is to reprogramme all relevant shortcuts with iKey, which is _much_ more responsive. I would like to know if others have the same problem. A godd shortcut to try this with the the one to change views, or to save. This is Mac only, I am sure it all works fine on Windows. MakeMusic seems to be able to reproduce it but apparently with not as much a delay as I see (probably because they have fewer plugins). Whatever, they seem to think this is not a problem. It is for me. Johannes On 15.04.2004 23:42 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote Hi guys, Occasionally, MacFin2004 will stop recognizing the enter key. Just stop. You can't use it in Speedy to replace entries, you can't use it in dialog boxes, it just doesn't see it. Other currently running applications see the Enter key just fine, but Finale doesn't. Sometimes, not even quitting and relaunching the application solves the problem. Similarly, sometimes MacFin2004 will stop responding to the undo shortcut (cmd-Z). You have to select it from the menu. Has anyone else observed this? Could this be iKey-related, or is it something else? I get the feeling most people on this list are steering well clear of MacFin2004. I probably should as well, but it's like when you force yourself to sit through a bad movie you've rented -- I've been anticipating it for years, I paid good money for it, so now I feel compelled to use it. Gah. I am really, really, really looking forward to the patch, although I fear no amount of patching will redeem MacFin2004. Fingers crossed for a better MacFin2005. - Darcy -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2004b for Mac
On 14.04.2004 11:55 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote And when I installed 2004 my 2002 lost EPS export ability also (I'm sure its a fixable font thing but I haven't sourced it yet). Download and install the fontpack, and you should be running normal again. The whole problem has to do with the faulty OpenType fonts which 2k4 installed. However, EPS not included in 2k4b is _bad_ news, and I really urge anyone who needs this as badly as I do to pester MakeMusic about it. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Flats colliding
On 14.04.2004 21:34 Uhr, Crystal Premo wrote I know there is something perfectly simple that I can't remember, but here is my problem: I have an eighth note, Ab, on layer one, and a half note, Fb, layer two, and the two flats are directly above one another. The client, of course, wants the flat on the Fb to be to the left of the flat on the Ab, and I can't see how to make that happen. I know I must be stupid. Please help me. In Fin2k4 just switch on the relevant option in the accidentals preference tab. In earlier versions you will have to move the flat with special tools. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plugin wish
On 12.04.2004 8:35 Uhr, d. collins wrote We used to have this with Forza! Unfortunately, it expired last year. And I am on Mac, no Forza, not even last year. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Plugin wish
I could really use a plugin which can copy text blocks on a per page basis from one document to another. There should be an option to copy only text blocks which are limited to that one page, or also those which appear on a page range or on all pages. Perhaps the TGTools text block transfer function could be extended to do this? It would really help with creating title pages quickly. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1
On 18.03.2004 16:52 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Is there an independent spacing library that needs to be imported separate from the Document Options library? Don't use spacing libraries in 2k3, use the spacing values. They work better, more reliably, and are easier to adjust. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1
On 18.03.2004 19:13 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Don't use spacing libraries in 2k3, use the spacing values. They work better, more reliably, and are easier to adjust. Sorry, but I have no idea what this means. What spacing values? Where? How do I get the right ones for Maestro Wide into a file that was previously for a different font? If this is a manual entry process, I'd prefer a library! Well, you have to enter three numbers manually. Here is where you find it: Document Options - Music Spacing. There is a button at the bottom left Spacing Widths Click that. Now you have two options, the first being the traditional method using a library of fixed values. In my opinion the new option of using values is more accurate yet more flexible. Mine are set to 1024 EDUs(which is a quarter note for the reference note value) 84 EVPUs(this is the space which the above value, ie a quarter note takes) 1.4 for the Scaling Factor (this determines how all the other notevalues are calculated). I use this for Maestro. For Maestro Wide you may want to increase the Reference width a little, although I am not even sure this is necessary. These values will give you a spacing which is similar to a lot of Henle's. If you want wider spacing you will want to increase the Reference width. If you want your spacing more proportional you want to increase the Scaling factor (2 would give you 100% proportionality (ie a half note will take twice the space of a quarter note, I think 1 would make everything the same width). If you are doing Rennaissance music with very large note values you may want to use another Reference Duration. I hope this helps. I am afraid I am about to leave for several weeks probably with no email, so if anything remains unclear I hope others can jump in. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?
On 17.03.2004 0:09 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote I still think there's something I'm forgetting. When you run TG tremolos on a bar and it creates invisible playback notes in layer 4, those notes don't affect spacing. Why not? What is TG changing that we could change manually? There must be something. That's different: Those notes are individually hidden I believe, not hidden with a staff style. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1
On 15.03.2004 23:53 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with the spacing for any measure with blank notation in layer 1 and notes in layer 4 (that's how I implement ornaments, as blank notation in layer 1, with the printed music in layer 4, which has no playback). I just tested this and I do think there is a bug. Finale creates a beat chart for all items in a layer that has been hidden with the BlankNotation Staff Style, and as far as I can see this is not correct. You should report this to MakeMusic. There are work arounds. However, they involve having to change layer and/or Spacing options before spacing the measures in question. Please report this to techsupport. I think this problem is older than 2k4, and chances are that it won't be fixed until 2k5 comes out. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1
On 17.03.2004 20:01 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Well, first off, I have no intention of upgrading Finale beyond WinFin2K3 until such time as Coda implements some kind of key escrow program to guarantee that if they go out of business their applications will continue to be usable. Sorry, I was under the impression that you had already upgraded to 2k4. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1
On 17.03.2004 20:01 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote I don't understand why blank notation should affect spacing. Perhaps other kinds of alternate notation should affect spacing, but blank notation worked fine in WinFin97 in regard to spacing. Actually, it doesn't work either way. It doesn't even space the hidden notes correctly, it just creates a beat chart for them, but not one that can be called spacing. So something is buggy. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1
On 17.03.2004 20:06 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote There are work arounds. However, they involve having to change layer and/or Spacing options before spacing the measures in question. Actually, there really is no workaround. I can't turn off spacing for layer 1, because all the other music in other parts in a measure with blank notation in one part needs to be used to account for spacing. One work around is to move all hidden playback notes to layer 4. I know it involves more work, that's why it is a work around. On the other hand I totally agree that something is messed up, and should be fixed on coda's part. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1
On 17.03.2004 1:51 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Well, you've got to have something in the blank notation layer that is going to take up a lot of space, like the written-out notes for a trill. That's where I'm getting all the problems, with ornaments for playback. David, do you really need those written out trills any more? Human Playback should do this for you. On the other hand I think the problem with the spacing should be reported. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Opentype fonts and Finale 2004 (Mac)
On 13.03.2004 23:15 Uhr, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote From reading on the Finale forums, it seems that Finale 2004 OS X will only allow Opentype fonts to be used for certain (hopefully not all!) elements. This is causing me quite a bit of grief as the Opus Font, for example, is a truetype or PS font, and so doesn't appear at all on the screen. No Finale will not only allow OpenType fonts, this is complete nonsense. However, certain TrueType encodings will not work in OS X. If all you need is to convert such fonts into a format that works with Finale OS X you can get TypeTool. However, it doesn't support OpenType, at least not for saving. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 30 day Disabled Fin2004 as a demo?
On 14.03.2004 1:22 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote After 30 days without registering, Finale 2004 is still usable but cannot save or print, effectively a demo version of the software. Does anyone know if there is anything wrong with leaving this demo version installed on a computer, when you have your two registered versions installed somewhere else? Does coda allow a demo or does it have to be removed? I was thinking it would be a good demo to leave at work to show people the latest Finale. This is definitely illegal. Don't do it. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Opentype fonts and Finale 2004 (Mac)
Matthew, concerning the changes necessary for fonts to be used in FinMac2k4, you should read the relevant chapter 29 in the manual. You'll find this on page 37 in chapter 29. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: JW Space systems
On 14.03.2002 4:04 Uhr, Rudolf van Berkum wrote I'm running Win98SE and Fin2003a, and am experiencing no difficulties using Jari's plug-ins (having reset my system back two years of course). Which is a little annoying since your messages sort in the wrong year for this mailing list. ;-) Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 30 day Disabled Fin2004 as a demo?
On 14.03.2004 13:20 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote I am not saying that the demo is illegal, but the version that can be made a full version with a registration code is not as such a demo. You have agreed to it's license, and that prohibits giving it away. It is true that it runs in Demo _mode_ when the 30 days grace period is over, but it is not as such a demo. It is, however, a challenge-response registration code, and I imagine Coda would not give out more than two keys per registration without a very good reason, so there isn't much chance someone is going to be able to activate it. What if cracking a time-disabled version is much easier than the real demo? What if MakeMusic simply doesn't want any save ability in demo versions, be it time limited or not? If you really want to give this version away, why don't you just write an email to MakeMusic and ask them. I guarantee you that they will not allow it. And I still say that it is illegal to do so. Finale is not Shareware. What you are suggesting is actually one of the reasons I question this kind of copy protection in the first place, it will actually make people think that giving away time limited versions it an alright thing to do. It's not. It's illegal. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 30 day Disabled Fin2004 as a demo?
On 14.03.2004 13:30 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote It may well not be the SAME demo that Finale2004 becomes after 30 days without registration. There may be something else that is disabled in the demo. For instance, are all the same fonts installed with the official demo? All the same plug-ins? I believe there are, but that's pretty irrelevant. You simply do not have the right to give this away. Of course since you can't save or print, I don't really see what the difference would be, either. The difference is that the time limited demo has the potential capability of saving and printing, the real demo has not. This ability remains in the application even after the demo expires (otherwise it couldn't be activated). But the only people who can answer that question definitely would be the folks at MakeMusic, so ask them. Exactly. And I know what the answer will be. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 30 day Disabled Fin2004 as a demo?
On 14.03.2004 14:40 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote Is there a Finale 2004 macintosh demo available? Otherwise, without a Finale free for OSX, a time-out full Finale is the only thing left that would run (not that I am saying it is right to use it that way). Yes, there is a demo available. It prints only one page with a demo watermark, and doesn't save. It is definitely not the same application as the timelimited full version. Whatever other policies are, Makemusic is entitled to do whatever they choose. You actually agreed to their terms when you installed Finale. This explicitly prevents you from giving away copies of the program. Therefor giving away copies is illegal. Full stop. No discussion necessary. Go ask them if you really want an answer from MakeMusic. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 12x18 printing on Ricoh AP2610
On 11.03.2004 21:15 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote One thing that I haven't tried yet, but that ought to work, would be to print the left-side pages of a 9x12 2-up, then turn the printer around and print the right-side pages. Interesting concept... (Do you also turn your house to change a lightbulb?) Sorry, couldn't resist. BTW, just to warn you before you get more headaches: I don't think the booklet print command in Finale Script actually works correctly. It prints every other double page in the wrong order, at least on the Mac. I have reported this to MakeMusic. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] JW Space systems
On 12.03.2004 1:11 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote I would assume Jari's been really busy. I did email him, encouraging him to update his plugins for FinMac2004 and mentioning that I think lots of us would gladly pay for them if he decides he needs to start charging for the plugin set. Perhaps if he's abandoned them, he would be willing to sell them off to another plugin developer who would be willing to update them for OS X. I really hope the JW plugin set makes it to Finale 2004 eventually, one way or another. In the meanwhile, when Fin2004 for OS 9 is finally released, we ought to be able to open Fin2004 files in Classic and run the existing JW plugins -- right? I doubt it. For two reasons: I don't think carbonized apps even open in classic, at least some don't, and Finale probably won't. Plus, I don't think old plugins will run any more in 2k4. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin 2004 speed issues
On 09.03.2004 20:28 Uhr, Raymond Horton wrote I find the latest 2004 Windows update to be considerably slower in one area - Human Playback. It takes quite a long time to compile the entire file every time, even after a very minor change to the file. How can it be slower than before, there was no Human Playback in earlier versions?? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin 2004 speed issues
On 09.03.2004 20:54 Uhr, Johannes Gebauer wrote On 09.03.2004 20:28 Uhr, Raymond Horton wrote I find the latest 2004 Windows update to be considerably slower in one area - Human Playback. It takes quite a long time to compile the entire file every time, even after a very minor change to the file. How can it be slower than before, there was no Human Playback in earlier versions?? Sorry, I just realized that you probably meant 2004b. (We Mac users haven't got one of those yet). You should report this to MakeMusic. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Looking for a Vivaldi concerto
Hi, sorry about this off-topic post, but perhaps the united wisdom of this list can turn something up on this one: I am looking for a score or whatever else there is of a Vivaldi violin concerto, Ryom/RV 212. It has the subtitle fatto per la Solennità della S. Lingua di S. Antonio in Padua 1712. There are two versions of this concerto, and this is where it gets complicated. Ryom lists those two versions as 212 and 212a. 212a is published in the Ricordi edition (as No 136). However, as far as I can tell the 212 version is not published in Ricordi. Nor could I find any other edition. Apparently there are altogether three manuscript source for this concerto. No 1 from Turin is 212a. No 2, also from Turin, is 212, but incomplete. There is also a ms in Dresden, which is 212. If anyone has a copy of the 212 version (it has a different slow movement Grave instead of Largo), I'd be interested to hear about it. Thanks, Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: F2003a won't print to acrobat
On 07.03.2004 2:19 Uhr, Christopher BJ Smith wrote This is a routine I got from this list (I think it was Johannes Gebauer, thanks loads, man!) Not me, I don't have Acrobat... Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Accidentals after transposition
On 06.03.2004 15:09 Uhr, Crystal Premo wrote Here's another thing about transpositions: if the piece contains accidentals in parentheses and one places them as articulations, those articulations stay there in the new key whether they are wanted or not. Why do you place them as articulations? Speedy P does this. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: F2003a won't print to acrobat
On 06.03.2004 23:08 Uhr, jef chippewa wrote is it possible that the installation CD or the finale application which it installs is corrupt somehow? Very unlikely. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 05.03.2004 10:29 Uhr, Mario Aschauer wrote That is so true! I think it looks really neat. I recently did a 450page score of an oratorio - they way I did it was put in an invisible syllable (Alt+0160) followed by the punctuation. Of course, one has to adjust word extensions manually. The soon to be started new edition of Kraus' musical works published by Carus puts the commata etc. right next to the syllable it belongs before the word extension. That will look okay, too, I think. TGTools actually allows you to do punctuation after the WE much easier. However, it doesn't seem to work with the new Smart WEs. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinWin 2004b
On 04.03.2004 15:57 Uhr, d. collins wrote 1) Smart Word Extensions. If you happen to use lyrics for figured bass, you can't use SWE. And since the old stupid Word Extensions plug-in seems to have disappeared, there's no easy way to enter Word Extensions (they have to be entered one by one). This is definitely a downgrade. Finale should at least have retained the old system. I think TGTools does have WOs functionality, no? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinWin 2004b
On 04.03.2004 17:31 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote Can't you copy the plugin from 2003 to the 2004 folder? I don't know for windows, but it wouldn't work for the Mac. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 05.03.2004 2:13 Uhr, John Howell wrote At 4:33 PM +0100 2/27/04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't often work with lyrics, so forgive me if this is common knowledge: Is there a way (in 2k4) to have punctuation (ie colon, comma or semi-colon) to appear at the end of the word extension line? Thanks, Johannes Even if there is, I would suggest that you not do it. In English, at least, it's important to keep the punctuation with the word that precedes it. Although this discussion has now somewhat been exausted, if you look at any NBA score of a Bach cantata, you will see punctuation after the word extension. Whether this is good or bad is not the question, Finale should be able to do it. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] From Your Friendly list Owner
On 01.03.2004 22:14 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote But this, IMO, would be worse. If the Reply-to were set to the list, the whitelist request would have been sent *to the list*, for *every* post. What's more, all of those replies would get archived and uselessly clog up the shsu.edu server. I rather doubt this would have happened, as the whitelist software should be clever enough to recognize addresses which the whitelist owner doubtlessly has in his addressbook. Besides, I am pretty sure this wouldn't have gone through the filtering of the listserver itself. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] It's official...
Congratulations! I wish you great success. Johannes On 02.03.2004 4:39 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote ...as of this afternoon, so I can announce it. I'm very pleased to tell my Finale friends that I have received the annual commission from the Vermont Symphony Orchestra. The new work will be premiered on September 22, and played ten times during the orchestra's statewide tour from September 22 to October 4. If you expect to be in Vermont during our lovely foliage season and can come to one of these performances, let me know. I would be delighted to meet some of you in person! Dennis -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac04 , speed, and a MIDI question
On 01.03.2004 19:55 Uhr, David Froom wrote I'm working on a large orchestral piece, and am about 60 measures into it (the file is now at about 135mb). Eh, are you sure about the size? If you are correct about the file size then something is definitely wrong with the file, I have never seen a Finale file of that size in my life... I do share your concerns about speed especially with smart shapes. Make sure you complain to MakeMusic. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Funny message
On 01.03.2004 6:45 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote Actually, based on the response on this list (and my own personal reaction), I think it's fair to say that people don't like spam whitelists, PERIOD. I received *12* junk emails from your spamslammer telling me I needed to fill out a form to get on your whitelist. I think it's very bad policy to try to reduce your own junk mail load by increasing everyone else's. I disagree. This only became a hassle because of how the whitelist combined with the Finale mailing list. When I get a whitelist message in response to an individual email I've sent to a specific person, it's no big deal. It just shows that none of these systems is fail-proof. Again, I am not against anti-Spam software. However, the fact that this mistake has probably caused more traffic than it has so far prevented does make me wonder. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] From Your Friendly list Owner
On 01.03.2004 20:16 Uhr, Henry Howey wrote I did not see the Whitemail notices to the list as they were sent by a listmember. I will check with IT folks here to see if another filter is possible. I currently monitor only the DIGEST so I seem to have escaped the blizzard;-) If anyone has a suggested filter I could propose to IT, please notify me offlist. As far as I can tell there is actually nothing you could have done from your end in terms of filters. The notices were sent directly to the original senders, so they never even went by the list. The only thing that may help to avoid such dilemmas in the future is to include a reply to address in list messages. I think this has been asked for many times (and all other email lists I use have this). So if you are able to do this, that would help us. Thanks for looking into this. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi problems, OSX under 9.2.2, please help
On 29.02.2004 1:55 Uhr, Crystal Premo wrote 3. Instead of receiving notes from the piano, it is just entering notes from the computer keyboard whenever I try to choose the note value to accept from the piano. Check the Speedy menu, is Use MIDI device for input checked? I f not check it. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 28.02.2004 9:52 Uhr, d. collins wrote Johannes Gebauer écrit: Since TGTools seems to have this function, if anyone knows how it works please share this with us. I have no idea. I just tried it: there's a box to tick that says Allow punctuation marks to be placed on last note of word extension, and another box to fill in with the punctuation marks affected by this. The only problem is that it seems to have absolutely no effect. I removed my word extensions, and created new ones with this option, and the punctuation remains before the extension. I tried a couple of times, just to be sure. I guess the plug-in must be reading my mind ;-). Exactly what I experienced as well. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 28.02.2004 11:13 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote You have to apply the puctuation by hand, then the plugin places it. Can you explain this to me, how do you apply it by hand? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
You are right. I just tried it, however, I am not sure I can get this to work with Smart WEs. Johannes On 28.02.2004 11:04 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote On Feb 28, 2004, at 12:52 AM, d. collins wrote: I just tried it: there's a box to tick that says Allow punctuation marks to be placed on last note of word extension, and another box to fill in with the punctuation marks affected by this. The only problem is that it seems to have absolutely no effect. I removed my word extensions, and created new ones with this option, and the punctuation remains before the extension. I tried a couple of times, just to be sure. I guess the plug-in must be reading my mind ;-). I notice that the label only says allow punctuation marks, not that it actually places them there. The basic kludge for putting punctuation after the line is to attach the punctuation mark to the final note, as if it were a separate syllable. I assume the option discussed here is simply to inform TGTools that that's what you're doing so that it will know to draw the lines accordingly. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 28.02.2004 11:20 Uhr, d. collins wrote You're right. But then the plug-in should say allow for, and not simply allow, because Finale itself already allows you to put the punctuation on the last note. How? Or rather, yes it does allow you to put punctuation on any note, but can it put it behind a WE? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 28.02.2004 11:38 Uhr, d. collins wrote Johannes Gebauer écrit: You are right. I just tried it, however, I am not sure I can get this to work with Smart WEs. I'm afraid the smart WEs aren't any smarter than the smart hyphens. I have found no use for either of these two new features, and much prefer TGTools for both hyphens and WEs. What happens to your smart word extensions when you have figured bass entered as lyrics? To be honest, I have no idea, since I haven't yet edited a piece that has both lyrics and figured bass since using 2k4. For the piece I am editing at the moment Smart WEs do everything I need (except punctuation after WEs, but I have since decided that I don't want this anyway). Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 28.02.2004 11:19 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote Type into score. You enter, the plugin positions. Well, I wasn't expecting the plugin to apply punctuation according to grammar rules. However, I didn't realize that the punctuation has to be put on the last note. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]
On 28.02.2004 11:54 Uhr, d. collins wrote Mr. Liudas Motekaitis écrit: The best thing to have happened in 2004 is Expressions placement. Agreed, that, and Finalescript. Have you used Finale Script? What for? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale]
I got this about ten times now, and I am really p%$§ssed off! Whoever is responsible for this nonsense, stop it immediately. Johannes -- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:24:49 +0100 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Returned Mail: Confirmation Required - #SSID#: 8O9Y5V1FD24531P7 IMPORTANT INFORMATION! This is an automated message. YOU HAVE 143 HOURS LEFT to reply to this message. If you fail to reply to this message by 18:23, 05-03-2004, your email address will be permanently BLACKLISTED and your messages will NOT reach my email address. The message you sent: Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online requires confirmation before it can be delivered. To confirm that you sent the message below, just reply and send this message back-- You need not to edit anything. Once you have confirmed this message, you will be able to send messages to me freely. This confirmation process is a one-time procedure to prove that you are a living, breathing human and not a spam generating machine. This email address is protected from unwanted emails by SpamSlam, the world's only 100% effective spam eliminator. SpamSlam is available for MacOS X. You can download SpamSlam from http://www.ilesa.com. Copyright 2003 ilesa and Mallory Paine. SpamSlam Message ID: 8O9Y5V1FD24531P7 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale]
On 28.02.2004 22:28 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote I don't recall EVER seeing a post from that address on this list, so perhaps it is simply a spamming attack. I am quite surprised these are getting through the shsu spam filters! David H. Bailey They aren't. The message is sent to the original sender. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Funny message
On 28.02.2004 22:33 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Could not someone respond to the offending e-mail then, having made it to the whitelist send a private email to the offender telling him of his offence, or would that involve the sender in something undesirable? I don't know, but I have done it. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Anti-spam white list nonsense.
On 28.02.2004 23:27 Uhr, gj.berg wrote Thing of it is -- I think I'm the guilty party -(not of the white listing thingy I hasten to add) but Phil Daley replied to my Rim shot query and in my return thank you (Thanks Andrew subsequently) I noticed it was only going directly to Phil and so threw in the Finale address ( I make the same mistake i.e. hitting reply and not-- reply all). I figure it important to show the list that it has been answered properly (or improperly) thus saving numerous similar replies. I never did see the reply come up but got the slamspam But dang if I'm clicking some monkey link encouraging insult. You didn't do anything wrong. Any message you send to the list will generate such a message, which will then only be sent to you. That's how it works. I just happened to have written quite a few messages to the list when it all started, so I got as many messages. It's stopped now, probably because I did reply to the message. Keep on doing what you did. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Anti-spam white list nonsense.
On 29.02.2004 0:36 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote That would be a safe assumption for every single mailing list I subscribe to *except* this one. And I have repeatedly argued that the current configuration (FROM as poster instead of the Finale list) is wrong. Not that I question your knowledge on mailing lists, which probably goes far beyond mine, but I think the FROM header is not the problem, it is the lack of a REPLY TO header. The FROM header should always be the sender of the message, whether it goes through a listserv or not. That's certainly the way it works with all mailing lists I am subscribed to. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online
I am not sure whether you are joking or being serious. Whatever the case, cross staffing is much easier than that in Fin2k4. Select the notes, select the plugin, click GO and you are done. Johannes On 27.02.2004 3:10 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote Hi all, Some time ago I mentioned some of the interesting features of Graphire. The manual is online, and here is one page that is interesting (have animated GIFs turned on): http://www.bandcmusic.com/Stage/editing-12019.html I sure do like that easy cross-staff beaming. :) The manual is not entirely complete. It was my design, and it's mostly in the shape I left it some three years ago when Graphire and I departed. Check the entire editing section for some of the stuff that is *easy* to do in Graphire that Finale might do well to emulate. This is the index: http://www.bandcmusic.com/Stage/ Dennis -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
I don't often work with lyrics, so forgive me if this is common knowledge: Is there a way (in 2k4) to have punctuation (ie colon, comma or semi-colon) to appear at the end of the word extension line? Thanks, Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 27.02.2004 16:40 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote There's an option in TGTools: Allow punctuation to be placed on last note of word extention. I can't get that to work, it doesn't seem to do anything. I tried with both smart Word Extensions on or off, but the colon stays before the WE. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 27.02.2004 16:51 Uhr, d. collins wrote Johannes Gebauer écrit: I don't often work with lyrics, so forgive me if this is common knowledge: Is there a way (in 2k4) to have punctuation (ie colon, comma or semi-colon) to appear at the end of the word extension line? Why would you want do to that? Isn't it going against all rules? I don't know, but if it is then most Bärenreiter editions (ie Neue Bachausgabe) are going against all rules, too. So I doubt it. It looks much more logical to me. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]
On 27.02.2004 16:53 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote At 09:45 AM 2/27/04 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am not sure whether you are joking or being serious. Whatever the case, cross staffing is much easier than that in Fin2k4. Select the notes, select the plugin, click GO and you are done. I wasn't joking. One of the things I like about Graphire is that most tool actions are one click away, with few cumbersome dialogs. Unlike Finale, it is a true production-oriented interface (with excellent defaults, by the way) that speeds right along without going in and out of frames, choosing multiple levels of tools, and looking for workarounds. The example I point to, drag-enclosing to beam/unbeam (one stroke, not plugins or lots of rat-a-tat-tat going into Speedy and using the / key), is just a better idea. Dennis, weren't you refering to cross staffing? I don't know Graphire at all, but going from the instructions on the web site this seems incredibly complicated. It needs ghost notes to start with. This is much easier in Finale, especially when using the plugin in 2k4. Perhaps you meant something else? I am not questioning that some things in Graphire are much easier or more intuitive, but cross staff beaming doesn't seem to be one of them. Also, it seems that this programme is no longer supported. It doesn't seem to run on any modern operating system, neither XP nor OS X. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online
On 27.02.2004 18:51 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote It's probably clear by now that this Dennis believes where it belongs is always where the composer (or editor) wants it to be, not where the software wants it to be -- unless the two happen to agree. :) Actually, in my case the composer has simply not put them in at all. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures
On 27.02.2004 20:48 Uhr, John Howell wrote Incidentally the Berlin Concertmaster Johann Gottlieb Graun produced (ie composed) some of the most difficult (ie high) horn parts in the 18th century. Haydn's Hornsignal symphony (more of a concerto grosso, actually) presupposes some darned good horn players. And I understand that some of the horn parts Mozart wrote for his buddies at Mannheim are 'way harder than the ones published in Paris. Apparently there is a link between the Horn players in Berlin (Graun) and in the Esterhazy court orchestra. Incidentally a Horn concerto survives in a copy of an Esterhazy copyist. For some time it was supposed to be by Haydn, but is now believed to be by Graun. It wouldn't surprise me if Mannheim had some of the best horn players, since they basically had virtuosos in every principal part. A an army of generals, as Burney called it. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions
On 28.02.2004 8:26 Uhr, d. collins wrote Mark D Lew écrit: Following your logic, the final consonant of should also come after the extension - since the extension is necessarily sung on a vowel. Huh?? I don't see how this has anything to do with punctuation. Well, the logic of having the punctuation after the extension is based on the fact that the punctuation should come only once you've finished singing the syllable. Pushing that logic step further, the last consonant should come after you've finished singing the vowel(s), i.e. at the end of the syllable also, just before the punctuation, and after the extension. I don't recommend doing this, but was simply trying to point out that there are many things in music notation that don't obey to logic, but rather to usage. On top of which, regardless of any logical considerations, letting singers wait until the end of the extension to discover if they have any kind of punctuation sign to express is not helping them, on the contrary. In some cases, this might mean they'll discover, say, a question mark, after a page turn... Although you are probably right that punctuation after the Word Extensions is not always ideal, Finale should be able to do this. Since TGTools seems to have this function, if anyone knows how it works please share this with us. I have no idea. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Upgrading Finale on Mac OSX
On 26.02.2004 15:11 Uhr, Aaron Sherber wrote If you have no need for the earlier versions on your computer, you should actually uninstall them before installing Fin2004, since uninstalling them later might actually delete some things which you still need (like music fonts). No need to uninstall, and I recommend against this when going from 2k3 OS9 to 2k4 OS X. It's a good idea to keep a functioning 2k3 version in your classic environment. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe
Of all the replies I got on this I have not heard a single one which actually sells through paypal, ie uses their buy now and shopping basket services. Has anyone got experiences in this field, or knows an alternative that works in Europe? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe
I wonder whether any European list members can tell me (privately) about their experiences with PayPal, or, if there are, any other credit card payment systems. I want to extend my online shop with credit card capabilities and am wondering whether PayPal is a good system for that (if you are not US based), or whether there are alternatives. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures
On 23.02.2004 17:12 Uhr, Robert Patterson wrote (An interesting situation *with* a key signature is the 3rd movement of the Brahms Horn Trio.) And wasn't that written for a valveless natural horn? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures
On 23.02.2004 17:21 Uhr, John Howell wrote Berlioz specifically recommended using 2 pairs of horns in 2 different keys so you could write more different notes by trading off horns. (And this is also the beginning of the tradition of having high specialists and low specialists in the horn section, with 1st and 3rd, not 1st and 2nd, being the high specialists.) Well, I am not an expert on horn parts, but the tradition of having high and low horn specialists must be older than that. You certainly have it in the 18th century. You didn't have 4 of them, but there were high and low parts, and players that specialized on one of them. Incidentally the Berlin Concertmaster Johann Gottlieb Graun produced (ie composed) some of the most difficult (ie high) horn parts in the 18th century. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Clef after bar line at start of system
On 20.02.2004 17:11 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote By the way, what happened to the dialogue for clef changes? There was an option there for always place after barline (but this wouldn't help Johannes for system starts). The behaviour changed: If anything is already selected you will get only a list of clefs. If you double-click anywhere while nothing is selected you will get the dialog you know. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Clef after bar line at start of system
On 20.02.2004 17:10 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote It's easy now that the expression attachment scheme is programmable. Simply define your clef, its size, and define the place on the staff where you want it to attach to (measure attached). I *love* the new Expression programming (have I said that before?). I have a DejaVu here, did I reply to this before? Anyway, the main problem is not placing the clef, but getting the cue notes to display correctly. With this method the cue has to be trnasposed, no? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT-live concert recording
On 20.02.2004 9:22 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote Johannes is correct about Audio CD's not being ideal, however, it is not true that you don't get 100% digital copies off of Audio CD's. This is widely misunderstood. The truth is: the only difference from one Audio CD to another is the jitter content. This is not to be misunderstood with digital errors. If you extract one audio cd with high jitter content onto a hard disk, you will get all of the bits 100% onto the hard disk and the resulting file will be better than the original, indeed a perfect jitterless copy. (unless you have physical digital errors such as deep scratches on the CD, which result in inevitable popping or skipping upon playback). The bits are quantized onto the hard disk in perfect maner. It is like music: a poor musician playing unrhythmically from perfectly quantized notation doesn't mean that a photocopy of the music will therefore display the notes in a new rhythmical figure. The CD reading mechanism while playing in real time is the only culprit of any and all belief that CD's do not copy 100%. This mechanism is not standardized, neither is the burning mechanism. The only standardized thing is the Audio-CD Red Book standard which determines the mathematical code and error-correction scheme as well as the dimensions of the physical CD and data. Well, I am less of an expert on this kind of thing than you, but isn't it true that the actual process of extracting Audio CDs can, and to a certain extend will, introduce errors? Here on the Mac side of things we have several tools to reduce these errors, they usually do this by reading the data several times and comparing. If what you say is true then CDs would be the nearly ideal recording media. However, I would still warn against them. I have just had an important (DATA-)CD fail on me. It has a little scratch (and I swear I have no idea how it got there) but it seems it cannot be retrieved fully. It held the only edited version of a concert recording in DATA format. That tought me to always make several backups. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing
On 20.02.2004 11:47 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote I believe Mark means increments of one staff space, which is 6 EVPUs tall. No, it's 24 EVPUs. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Clef after bar line at start of system
For Cue notes it is standard to display the clef change after the barline. Especially at the beginning of a system the system should start with the normal clef, and the key signature should then be followed by the cue notes clef. This is not easily possible in Finale. Does anyone know a work around other than using complicated graphic clefs? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Clef after bar line at start of system
On 20.02.2004 17:10 Uhr, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote It's easy now that the expression attachment scheme is programmable. Simply define your clef, its size, and define the place on the staff where you want it to attach to (measure attached). I *love* the new Expression programming (have I said that before?). Yes, but that does involve transposing the cue notes, no? I was hoping for an easier solution, I have many of those places. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing
On 20.02.2004 20:51 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote For many years I was working on an old system on which TG Tools was inoperative, so I developed most of my habits without it. Since then, I've obtained TG, but I've only started using the few I really need and haven't explored the rest. Happy discovering! You'll find that TGTools can do a lot of things quickly that otherwise require a lot of manual work. An indispensible tool. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Thanks and another question
On 19.02.2004 9:27 Uhr, Ole Buck wrote Hinsictlich der Schreibweise ist zu bemerken, dass die Zusammenziehung von Werten über markante Einschnitte hinweg unbedingt zu vermeiden ist, wenn dadurch Zweifel in der Taktauffassung entstehen könnten. (Just about how to notate rhythme: to shorten rhytmical values that goes over beats must absolutely be avoided if it can raise doubt the right interpretation of the timesignature). Sorry, but this is not a very accurate translation, there is actually absolutely nothing about beats there. This is how not to translate if you want to make a point. That follow the line of Gardner Read in his book Music Notation and it is my experience from talk to many musiciens that they say the same, they need to see where the beat goes. - So there are a concensus here in some way, but that doesn't mean that composer follow it, many try to avoid the feeling of a beat, so it is naturally also to outfind new notational devices to achieve it. Need to see where the beat goes and subdivide on any beat is something completely different. I still insist there isn't such a rule or convention, of any universal or modern character. I could see some convention of this sort for compound meters, but that's as far as it goes. It does not apply to even meters of any sort, nor to 3/4 or in fact any 3-signature. David said there were exceptions for 4/4, 4/2 and to a lesser extend for 3/4. I'd argue that you'd have to call those exception the rule. Furthermore, this rule also extends to 2/4 (basically the only remaining non-compound meter), or have you ever seen quarter tied to eighth, followed by eighth prefered to dotted quarter and eighth? I really think this kind of rule is complete nonsense, except for rests and perhaps compound meters. Johannes Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Thanks and another question
On 19.02.2004 18:13 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote As I said the before, the problem here is precisely the same as we have with beaming. For beaming we have the method available to us of grouping beams of 8ths in 4's in 4/4. For Finale to really handle 4/4 properly, it would need the same conventions built into its handling of transcribing rhythms that extend beyond one beat. How that could be done, I don't know. Finale deals just fine with beaming in 4/4, as long as the relevant option is switched on. This has been there for quite a few versions. But there really is a rule that Finale is following, if too simple- mindedly. The result that Finale comes up with is not *wrong*, it's just not optimal from the standpoint of convention and readability. Well, you have just contracicted yourself. In your earlier post you wrote: Finale is actually correct about this, because you've told it that the beat is the quarter note, and modern notational standards require that note values larger than the beat (with certain exceptions) be notated with smaller note values tied together. and that's what I object to. Note the wording require. There are no such modern notational standards. With certain exception is not really enough to account for the vast majority of all music. Perhaps, Johannes, if you're unable to read the meters I mention accurately, you might also be inaccurate in your interpretation of other things I've said. You are right, I misread (actually mis-remembered) the meter you gave. It doesn't actually change much, though. Also, Finale can copy correctly (ie accurately) provided you know where the option is. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT-live concert recording
On 20.02.2004 1:37 Uhr, David Froom wrote We thought direct to CD because of inexpensive media, and ease of transfer to computer for editing-out of applause and blank spaces. This is not an ideal media to record to. The main reason is that Audio CDs have very poor error correction and this means that it is unlikely that you'll ever get a 100% digital copy of it. If I were you I would look into hard disk recording. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing
On 20.02.2004 5:21 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote For me, I wouldn't say almost never. However, when it does happen, my thinking is always something like: I want to add 6 points between staves A and B, and I want to subtract 6 points between staves B and C, so -- how convenient! -- I can just move B and the others stay put. By the way, I never move a staff by dragging, and I always use the Staff Usage dialog instead, but it's the same problem there: I have to go through the whole system adding the same number to each staff from the one I want all the way down to the bottom of the system. I suppose what I'd really like is if there were a way -- or maybe there already is? -- that I can set a minimum increment for vertical positioning of staves. Then I'd nudge them instead of goiing to the Staff Usage dialog. Currently, dragging is unacceptable to me because I want my distance between staves to always be an exact increment of a space, and I can't be that precise with dragging. You should use TGTools. It doesn't let you drag the way you want, but it does let you enter numbers in a much more convenient way. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Thanks and another question
On 18.02.2004 17:11 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote Finale is actually correct about this, because you've told it that the beat is the quarter note, and modern notational standards require that note values larger than the beat (with certain exceptions) be notated with smaller note values tied together. I'd say there are more exception than not, really. Who made this rule up? It's complete nonsense in my opinion. Look at any piece with 4/4, you will see lots of dotted quarters. There is no such rule for modern notational standards. (This rule may apply to rests, but certainly not to notes). Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Customizable zooms
On 18.02.2004 19:30 Uhr, Richard Huggins wrote Would anyone else besides me like to have the ability to customize the zoom percentages, so that using the zoom tool took the zoom to a user-determined pecentage? For example, 200% on the first click might work for my 21 monitor, but doesn't for my laptop. I'd like to be able to set the percentages myself so that I can use the Zoom tool to stage up / stage down the percentages aaccording to my prefs. I'm on FinMac 2k2, in case this has been added. --Richard I use a macro to set my view percentage to 150%. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
