Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible
On Tuesday, Apr 20, 2004, at 14:56 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: In fact I _really_ hope that OS 9 will be dropped for 2k5 in favour of a bug free, speedier OS X. Concerning EPS manquée, would you find Import/Export PDF facilities instead of EPS to be a viable option? Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible
On Tuesday, Apr 20, 2004, at 13:49 US/Pacific, gj.berg wrote: Yup, it most certainly is. It has acquired this Lemur like blink --- very slow blink and then a thought and then the command. Arg! The meta-tool resize command is all messed up -- you hit for half size and dang if it doesn't decide to go all the way down to 5%. My back is one ball of tension knots from the frustration of totally unpredictable behavior. Still all defaults are set to entire piece -- which is entirely nonsensical. It's for composers too y'know. The bubble tools are even larger -- more screen space gone. What's that for? This is progress? Geesh, I'm being turned into a luddite... Or a lemur. Jerry Berg I think it best if the OS 9 version was dropped. In fact, it might have been cheaper for Coda to buy the 2 users still running it new G5s rather than pay the engineers for the several months of effort put into it. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Enter key, undo shortcut bugs in MacFin2004
On Thursday, Apr 15, 2004, at 14:42 US/Pacific, Darcy James Argue wrote: Occasionally, MacFin2004 will stop recognizing the enter key. Just stop. You can't use it in Speedy to replace entries, you can't use it in dialog boxes, it just doesn't see it. Other currently running applications see the Enter key just fine, but Finale doesn't. Sometimes, not even quitting and relaunching the application solves the problem. Similarly, sometimes MacFin2004 will stop responding to the undo shortcut (cmd-Z). You have to select it from the menu. Has anyone else observed this? Not precisely the same but I know what you're talking about. Could this be iKey-related, or is it something else? I could mention that: 1) I was encountering some unexpected crashing problems with Project Builder on 10.2.x when iKey was installed. I could never trace the problems directly to iKey but can only say that I took it out and did not get as many unexpected crashes. PB does have some built in unix text key-bindings and occasionally one will accidentally trigger one of them. I figure this is one area where a conflict with iKey could come into play because those key bindings are done at a different level than menu keybindings in Cocoa. 2) With iKey's predecessor (YoupiKey) I heard it mentioned once or twice that it had a problem when background things were running (as would be with Midi). But it was really hard to tell if this info was spawned by someone with some interest in promoting a competing product (Keyboard Maestro). 3) Finale's current menu implementation has some refresh problems in that it seems only to be 100% updated on a mouse click (because the click brings a background thread running the menu item refreshing code forward). Your observation above (You have to select it from the menu.) is correct. I've put in a request for this behavior to be fixed and hope others interested in having workable shortcut macros will do the same. #3 is probably the main factor here. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac Problem (not really Finale-related)
On Wednesday, Apr 14, 2004, at 12:23 US/Pacific, Giovanni Andreani wrote: I'm sorry, I know this is a bit out of the topic, it happened to me while trying to place a folder with all my Finale actually developing documents into the Finder's sidebar window. Well, when I shut down and restart, the folder's gone, and the other folders (documents, music ecc) which I had deleted from the sidebar, reappear. Can anyone give me a tip? Thank you Giovanni PS OS 10.3.2 Giovanni - Finder-Preferences-Sidebar lets you switch the built-in folders on and off. I don't have any problem with custom ones added to the sidebar (10.3.3). Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Rave Act protest scheduled
On Friday, Apr 2, 2004, at 14:51 US/Pacific, Mark D Lew wrote: On Apr 2, 2004, at 2:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Joe Lieberman is not really a Democrat. Touché But this is not a political list, so we should probably not go any further with this. . . Good point. I'll resist the urge to follow-up on Darcy's post. Either that or we can take it elsewhere. Well I wouldn't mind it if you all waxed on a bit if the issues would have an impact on the music community. Up here in Canada, we can't avoid being affected by goings-on in the US and it's nice to hear opinions other than those of the US media conglomerates. But I'd just like to say that even in Vancouver the aforementioned pseudo-democrat looked like a joke. Just makes me think that if Al Gore had selected someone else for his running mate, he might have made president and the world would probably be a better place. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MacFin04 install issues
Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone seen this? When I installed MacFin04 (finally) I get the following error message every time I start up: Extract Lyrics: Plugin icon missing: -1409 Also, I always have to go thru the Tips and MIDI Setup rigamarole, like it doesn't know how to save my settings. I know I should ask Mac support, but since it is a weekend, I thought I'd see if anyone here knows about it. RockyRoad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have tried installing twice now (clean install) and both times upon booting the program I get the following error dialog box: Extract LyricsPlugin Icon Missing: -37 The program then seems to work, but I'd still like to get rid of the error. Can anyone help with what to do? The computer has had Fin2002a on it, but that's an OS9 program and shouldn't effect the install of Fin2004. Hi both and thanks for catching this, I have located the problem and will be sending in an update ASAP. It is a warning not reported during F2K4 testing period and does not affect anything operational in Finale or the plugin. Depending on which version you have, if the icon is present and clicked on, it will take you to a web site. The different error numbers are caused by the fact that Finale stores these kinds of icons in a resource file before F2K4 but now keeps them on disk in the application package. Because these icons types when used from disk must be registered with the OS, it gets stumped if the icon is not in the same file as when first registered. I believe there is some chance the warning will not show up depending on whether or not OS 9 is on the same volume as OS X and _possibly_ if you re-build the OS 9 desktop after removing old Finales. In any event it will be gone in your next official update from MakeMusic. If you have download permissions in the current beta cycle, it should be in the next update. Otherwise, just trash the plugin for the nonce. About Robert's Tips and MIDI setup, I think that's related to Finale's preferences (application Midi preferences and Plugin folder location). Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Explode!
Hi Chris, Well, I'm just talking about the essential parts of a composition, not the orchestration. And in that, I certainly agree with you. My name with my students for what you are calling parts is gesture. Phew! I'd consider changing that term for this context if I was you. Do a quick google for computer music gesture. It's other life has been all over academia, CMJ, etc., for years and it's probably a taxable industry by now. I think I got that from one of my 20th century theory teachers, and I like it because it describes anything that holds together in a recognizable shape at the macro level. It isn't restricted to melodic motives or cells. And BTW, I think Hal must have been born with his special talent: I've never even seen an email by him with an unprepared dissonance! Ha! Actually not as weird as it sounds at first read. I've been noticing lots of similarities between musical approaches and literary, visual, or speech patterns. A particular and long time fascination of mine. Since it involves a lot of multi-disciplinary stuff too enormous for a Finale OT discussion, I won't comment much further except to say that there's grist-for-the-mill in micro-tonal inflection and that if one want's to test theories at any time, politicians make good guinea pigs. Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Explode!
On Tuesday, Jan 6, 2004, at 08:15 US/Pacific, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: On Friday, Jan 2, 2004, at 07:08 US/Pacific, David H. Bailey wrote: I don't think you can make the presumption that the chords would be continuously parallel. How 'bout largely parallel? Chris describes using one hand. Yes, but I have large hands (a twelfth in my left hand, which is the hand I use for entering MIDI info.) I can extend that by using my nose, a toe, a pencil between my teeth, or one of my children (usually for a bass-register note that is widely separated.) :- You might get along real well with Simon Kendall--a keyboard player out this way who can do the stretch. 13th on a good day. However, more than interesting for me to hear how folks describe such relationships as it would seem to reflect on their analytical ear. Kinda wondering if I've done too much Bach at this point. Aha, now we are off the Explode function, and into counterpoint. My dear Watson, I'm not sure I would necessarily group passages together according to how much counterpoint (in the traditional sense of the word) they contain. It's a little greyer than that for me (although admittedly I am not a thoroughly trained contrapuntist, like Hal Owen is. Great book, Hal!) Well, I'm just talking about the essential parts of a composition, not the orchestration. And BTW, I think Hal must have been born with his special talent: I've never even seen an email by him with an unprepared dissonance! ... if ANY one voice moves in non-parallel (or non-similar) motion, then the contrapuntal relationship of the passage is preserved, otherwise it falls immediately into the domain of parallism, which my teacher hastened to assure me is not so much bad music as bad counterpoint. I learned anything more than four notes in a row at first species level and three for the limit if one was writing in the style where leaping a sixth is verboten. Some composers in the jazz domain (Duke Ellington, Thad Jones, notably) adhered more or less to this concept, even in places where other jazz composers might have resorted to all-parallel line thickening-type voicings. For sure. I have a 1943 Robbins song book, Duke Ellington at the Piano which illustrates this to a tee. And interesting too because it observes the principal but is definitely not classical. And not Dixie either (which has a lot of material sticking close to the rules). I'm not convinced that it makes all that much difference. Certainly if the thrust of a passage is primarily contrapuntal, then the more one avoids parallelism the more counterpoint one hears, but ONE voice in oblique motion saving the whole passage from the dreaded curse of parallelism? I dunno. Right, at least for my ears. ... Pure parallism gets boring in large doses, as it creates a hum of consistent sound without variation, kind of like musical whitewash. Painting themselves with the same brush. ... But a lot of musicians (mostly non-classical) rely on this thickening technique way too much. It's the difference between say, the unrelenting wall of parallel harmony one hears in most radio music, and the more intricate, variable, and interesting harmonies one hears in the Beach Boys, or Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young, or some of the better R+B groups. Remarkable how 25+ years increases the lustre of that which deserves to shine. ... Sorry to get off the topic of classical music, ... Not a digression for me. And a very good comment on what is happening vis a vis media convergence, globalization, or whatever the current buzzword is. I see it more and more as being a potentially legally prosecutable area. That's because big money buys big exposure and the goal is to hypnotize the masses into buying more of the same factory band drivel. Fela Kuti said: Music is a weapon. An inspirational rallying call for performers and writers IMO. However we must think also that there are those who would use that concept to an evil purpose (cloaked in the guise of free world capitalism) and that for them, North America is fertile ground because of the amount of disposable income available. Hey, wait a sec, those are _your_ kids being raised as fodder for their bank accounts. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Explode!
On Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003, at 12:09 US/Pacific, Aaron Sherber wrote: is precisely the point. Just because I enter in two or more layers, doesn't necessarily mean that it ends up looking like a typical two layer staff. I may choose to hide notes or output from an auxiliary staff to have a complete part for instance. Okay -- but why not just enter the notes once, the way you want them to look in the score, Whoosh. You've missed my point entirely. I'm talking about musical parts--not what staves will look like at a later point in order to conform to notation conventions. I write a2 as a result. That is to say a result of a particular orchestration/instrumentation of the parts of a score. Because I embrace those kinds of musical concepts, I enter music part-wise and voice-wise. For me, look in the score is an afterthought to making a musical statement. In fact, only one of the output possibilities Finale offers for scores. This is a little like saying Bah, who needs these modern web browsers -- I can get all the info I need with lynx. 21 /dev/null (No offense intended by any of this. No offense indeed. Since I've gone over the outline of my concepts several times, and it appears to have passed you by as many times, I think I'll stick with my previous statement: I should have known folks don't think far enough to extrapolate the logic. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Explode!
On Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003, at 12:15 US/Pacific, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: I often write for big band, and homophonic sections are easily entered by holding down big fat 4 or 5 part chords on the MIDI keyboard with one hand while entering the note value with the other, on the first trumpet part for example, then Exploding it to the other trumpet staves. As a matter of clarification, and not to disagree with your other remarks on Finale's Explode, I would characterize anything with such lock-step rhythm and (presumably) continuously parallel motions as being conceptually one part. Like in a 4 part piece, it would be one part (homophonic sections and first trumpet part notwithstanding) and the various trumpets being the voices of the part. Agree or disagree? Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Explode!
On Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003, at 06:25 US/Pacific, David H. Bailey wrote: But the complaint about Finale's explode function not copying unison sections to all exploded parts... While I do agree with folks who think that a part-savvy Explode should be built-in, and agree with RGP's comment that it would be better if Finale didn't re-transcribe, it seems to me that this dumb explode situation comes about because people aren't thinking part-wise during score entry. That is, two instruments on a staff = entering in two layers. Similarly for other items like learning how to setup a score for page-formatting-wise/part-wise/Midi-wise so that one simply doesn't arrive at problematic situations later on when things are more complicated. I can see making things like the canonic functions be plug-ins (only problem, they're included with the program, not an aftermarket purchase), but turning the Explode function into a plug-in to work correctly is tantamount to saying please, somebody else, make our program work properly. But David, such statements are only a reflection of your use of Finale. It's ridiculous to think that Finale is solely a copyist's application and must cater to things that quill 'n vellumists do. Canonic Utilities is mostly a composers/arrangers tool and as such, a certain section of the user base thinks it's essential--and perhaps that TAB features are a useless waste of Coda's developer resources and ought to be third party plugins. As mentioned above, if one adjusts their thinking for the electronic medium, things go a lot smoother. Djever hear the story about this farmer who got his first tractor sometime in the 1920s? Comes to the end of ploughing his first row and yells Whoa Nellie. Damn tractor doesn't stop and crashes into the trees at the end of the field! Well, some of us might think that's akin to dumb explode. Best for 2K4, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin04 in MacOS9? Why? (was: Explode!)
On Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003, at 09:40 US/Pacific, Robert Patterson wrote: Expose (which I don't have) sounds incredibly useful for OSX, but the OS9 Finder needs it less than the OSX Finder does. (The OS9 Finder compensates in two interdependent ways: one is that when you click on a window, all windows for that app come foreward. One can argue the pros and con of this, but it does make the Expose functionality less necessary, especially when combined with the other OS9 compensation: the application pulldown in the upper right corner.) For older OS X, I think you might want to try Option-Click on an app's window and/or Option-Click on an app's Dock icon. And yes, I miss the application menu but compensate by using a right hand side Dock. You can get it to pin to the top with a utility like TinkerTool. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Explode!
On Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003, at 10:36 US/Pacific, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:54 PM 12/31/2003, Philip Aker wrote: That is, two instruments on a staff = entering in two layers. Oh, that's not necessarily true at all. Two instruments on a staff often appears in a score as notes in two layers, but it just as often appears as two-note chords. I should have known folks don't think far enough to extrapolate the logic. appears as two-note chords (surely you mean dyads) is precisely the point. Just because I enter in two or more layers, doesn't necessarily mean that it ends up looking like a typical two layer staff. I may choose to hide notes or output from an auxiliary staff to have a complete part for instance. Or you can enter them in Finale as Voice 1/Voice 2. No kidding. 8-) And as for the decribed situation with the two voices in unison, would you really enter these into a score as unision in two layers as opposed to just writing 'a2'? Yes. I think, set up for, and do entries part-wise (bearing in mind that the goal is a full score). Getting things to look and sound right occurs at later stages and this is most effectively done if the basic raw material is in good order. I have evolved my methods since 1991 but had largely deduced the most effective way to work by late 1992. I haven't really changed that much except of course to accommodate advances in Finale and take advantage of the PDK. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] two Finale questions
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a lead sheet I'm doing, I'd like to put a coda right after the last chorus, with just blank space between the chorus and the coda, a la Billy Joel's New York State of Mind. (The coda would be at the same vertical level as the chorus, ostensibly to save paper.) Also, can anyone tell me how to get a word extender to appear under a note at the beginning of the second ending that is tied from a note in a measure just before the first ending? 1. Use a blank measure (i.e. blank it out with a staff-style). 2. You can use a Shape Expression or attach a hard-space and put an extension on it. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Merged syllable question
On Saturday, December 20, 2003, at 08:50 AM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 12:28 PM, Weldon Whipple wrote: The turning point for me was when I travelled from Minnesota (where I lived at the time) to Toronto. Trawna! But try Gander Newfoundland (and points north), for an ear opener on pronunciation of the English language in North America! Try singing this, on four quarter notes in a descending augmented triad (C,Ab,E,C) Whale oil beef irked You have just perfectly pronounced what many Newfoundlanders might say when told something surprising. ;-) Betcha that's what Brian Tobin said just before he retired for family considerations from the previous federal government. Yes, and who was the lonely lit'l cad-fish then Bonnie? Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] PDFs in OS X
On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 03:52 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: ... In the Print Dialog, in the popup where you first see Copies Pages, there is a ColorSync item. Choose that, then you will see some filters available. One of them is Reduce File Size... That only seems to downsample images. Not sure that I want that. In OS 9 there were settings on which fonts should be included in PS files and how. Where have those options gone in OS X? Not sure. I've tried a few alternatives: a straight-forward gzip compression results in only 92% of original file size. PDFEnhancer (not free) is even worse -- only a 2.7% savings. So maybe you'll want to see some proof before buying PStill. I thought that the automatic include fonts option would now only include the characters of the font that was being used in the document. For instance if there was only one articulation in Petrucci, then only the data necessary to render that single character would be included. But that seems not to be the case. And, I noticed elsewhere that you're not the only one complaining about PDF file size. So I guess it's over to MacOS X feedback page or https://bugreport.apple.com/. This latter one is the best way to ensure the complaint gets into the priority chain. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Expose (was Aaargh... More delays)
On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Tim Thompson wrote: Many of these features are so well thought out and implemented, ... Indeed. In the case of Exposé, it takes a keenly perceptive mind to use the same materials (screen, keyboard, mouse) every computer user in the world knows about and come up with an efficient solution for what has been a persistent problem. Maybe they were asking: But why do I have to do that?. I like to see the same type of critical thinking applied to Finale's UI design. Maybe, as more users migrate to 10.3 and later, design ideas from Panther can be seen to be adapted to the music notation idiom. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Multiple Win OS on a system
On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 10:46 AM, Phil Daley wrote: You can also run Linux (shudder) although I can't think of any good reason to. I haven't tried it myself, but MacOS X 10.3 comes with an optional install for XWindows and extra stuff to support Linux apps (or at least make them easy to port). I'm looking forward to trying a few after the new year. But why would you shudder anyway? I mean it IS the official OS of China... :-) Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Multiple Win OS on a system
On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 11:36 AM, Tim Thompson wrote: Yes, Apple includes their own X11 system on one of the CDs that come with 10.3. ... I have only used it to run Open Office, and it works just fine. I haven't tried it. But if you feel like it, I believe there are several of us who would appreciate a quick overview of features. Like how does it do as a PageMaker (document assembly), can it export EPS, cool fonts, graphics tools?, etc. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Merged syllable question
On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 12:28 PM, Weldon Whipple wrote: The turning point for me was when I travelled from Minnesota (where I lived at the time) to Toronto. Trawna! But try Gander Newfoundland (and points north), for an ear opener on pronunciation of the English language in North America! Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Merged syllable question
On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 02:02 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: The turning point for me was when I travelled from Minnesota (where I lived at the time) to Toronto. Trawna! But try Gander Newfoundland (and points north), for an ear opener on pronunciation of the English language in North America! And the LOTR deluxe edition DVDs provide a crash course in New Zealand English, where it seems that the short E always comes out either ih or ee. Talk of spicial iffeects and the like ticks some gitting used to. I'm hard pressed to distinguish between Aussie and NZ dialects but NZ seems a little brighter and sharper in general. I met up with our list member Matthew Hindson (Aussie) a few months ago and we both remarked on each other's ixsense. According to my ears, given the same phrase, he would have pronounced as: tykes sahm gitten yews tayeu. The spicial would have been very close as well: spishul where the ul is decidedly short. Also, I find some parallels between South African speech (whites) and the down unders. Most likely the Dutch influence. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, at 12:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Let's say I've just created a PDF and saved it to the desktop... Not to detract from Exposé's features at all, but by utilizing PDF Services, which adds menu choices to the output destination for a PDF, one can print to an email with the PDF attached. The site (with example) is here: http://www.apple.com/applescript/print/. Where less is more the motions (keystrokes and mouse clicks) saved with this alternate method is a plus factor. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, at 02:17 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hey, that's great! Questions, though... Why isn't this configured by default? No idea. Maybe the same brillo that made it impossible to Empty Trash without an intervening dialog in 10.0.0. And where can I get those other scripts they show on that web page (Compress PDF, Convert PDF to Text, Purpose PDF for Web, etc? Those are just to give ideas. At: http://www.apple.com/applescript/resources/, near the bottom of the page is a Resources category with some links like macscripter.net. You'd have to do an additional search at the sites to find something specific. With AppleScript, it's usually much better to define the tasks you wish to accomplish, join AppleScript-Users list for a few days, and ask the question there. Most likely you'll get a solution you can select in Mail and then use Services-Script Editor-Make New AppleScript to save where-ever. For the print to email category, there are also some utilities that enable you to bypass Mail entirely. Only good for the cases where say you'd just want to send the files to specific clients as regular updates over the duration of the contract and not need personalized text. These are Scripting Additions like XMail, 24U Email OSAX, and unixy things like sendmail. I'm using XMail right now because I haven't had time to set up sendmail on Panther (it's tricky). Cheers, Philip On 17 Dec 2003, at 04:57 PM, Philip Aker wrote: On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, at 12:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Let's say I've just created a PDF and saved it to the desktop... Not to detract from Exposé's features at all, but by utilizing PDF Services, which adds menu choices to the output destination for a PDF, one can print to an email with the PDF attached. The site (with example) is here: http://www.apple.com/applescript/print/. Where less is more the motions (keystrokes and mouse clicks) saved with this alternate method is a plus factor. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, at 02:34 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: While we are on the question of PDF creation, does anyone know how to control what fonts are included in a System created PDF? I find that PDFs created directly from the print dialog are much larger than PDFs created by printing a PS file and sending them through Ghostscript, and I cannot find any other reason than fonts. Or should I get Pstill after all? Maybe not. In the Print Dialog, in the popup where you first see Copies Pages, there is a ColorSync item. Choose that, then you will see some filters available. One of them is Reduce File Size. You may also use the ColorSync Utility directly. It's got quite a few capabilities I didn't know about until recently. Includes the ability to preview the effects as applied to images and PDFs. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
? Yes. You assume that the nuts and bolts define the difference. That can't be so because 1): the OSes are currently deployed on different architectures, and 2): there's this really ugly albatross centered about technology copyrights and corporate patents. UI isn't only appearance. It is also a communication method (a language) and facilitation for the user. Gates (the person) is incapable of conceptualizing at this level. If you have seen a TV clip or other media presentation, you should be able to deduce this immediately from his diction and body language. Without really knowing how it works, Gates does conclude once again however that Apple has him by the short 'n curlies in UI expression, and has directed the rip-off implementation Windows users may see in Longhorn. I'm not getting the feel from your remarks that UI as a language concepts are being perceived because you pooh-pooh them as being superficial. And I fear that because you've been more involved with Windows than most folks on this list, over exposure to Microsoft corporate-speak has you duped into bypassing the whole area. If I could make an analogy by way of language, Gates is illiterate in the one called UI. And once again, Apple's foray into UI design is now approaching artistic levels. You would actually have to experience Panther OS X for sometime personally to verify my assessment though. I can't speak about backward compatibility in an OS that is not going to be released until 2005 or 2006. OK. That's all I was saying before. Of course, during the transition period, everybody provided dual binaries. But eventually that stopped, right? For 68K yes. However with application packaging, it's possible to provide multiple executables (Carbon, Mach-0, unix tool, etc.) for multiple architectures. As to any copying from OS X in Longhorn, I see no evidence of anything but very superficial copying. In terms of UI design and underlying OS structure, there is very little in common, except what is going to be in common between any two modern OS's. See above. I truly worry that UI-As-Language has been omitted from your repertoire. Unlike Gates however, I perceive you as being more than capable of handling those concepts. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 06:19 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: I didn't buy Disk Warrior at the time because I wasn't doing anything with OSX then. I'm hardly using it now, except to install Panther in anticipation of FinMac 2K4, and trying to upgrade all the (numerous!) relevant apps I have that are not OSX compatible. Well, I guess that's a good portion of the reason you haven't had the more-than-positive experience the rest of us have had with Panther. I do not have a reasonably decent backup system. I've been backing up to CDs, wh. are immensely smaller than my boot drive. That's all I use. It's just a matter of arranging the data to be backed up. I don't need to back up system and application files I have installers for. Disk Copy/Disk Utility are very handy in this respect and there is another Apple utility called Backup available as well. Even if I invested in an auxiliary drive just for backups, there's all those invisible system files that wouldn't copy over, and would make the copied System folder useless for restoration purposes. It's really easy to Show Invisibles on OS X. It's common knowledge and should be available at places like MacOSXHints.com. If not, I have a freely available applet which can do this. To top it all off, I've managed to *lose* the original System 9 CDs that came with my computer! That appears to be the real source of your problems here. I can tell you that I misplaced my Jaguar disks last spring and couldn't find them for two months so I know what it feels like... Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Sunday, December 14, 2003, at 12:07 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The one thing about OS X that I don't really understand is why a .x upgrade would break programs that ran well on the previous release. What's that about? I'd have to have a specific example to comment. Is Apple removing functionality that existed in the previous release? Surely they are not adjusting the base APIs with every release? Or, if they are, they're doing it in a way that wouldn't break applications written to the earlier API? Obviously, that can't be it -- would it be the window manager that is causing the problem (Aqua/Quartz)? Or? I simply don't know enough about it to understand what level is causing existing software to fail in the new releases. Perhaps we're encountering the same kind of issue you mentioned previously: The smart ones programmed for the Win32 API. Generally, if programmers follow the recommended migration path, there aren't any problems. Stands to reason this is true for any platform. In the case of Carbon, this is very clear. In the case of Objective-C (i.e. Cocoa), similar things can be very tricky. I don't know if I can explain them that well but: In Obj-C it's possible to do some things unheard of in the C/C++/Pascal worlds. Like to tell an object to perform some method not known at compile time with some parameter(s) not known at compile time. This would be a call something like: objc_msgSend( theButton, @selector( setHidden: ), NO ); Here 'theButton' is a real and known object type, but the selector and it's accompanying data value are only determined during runtime and won't actually error until theButton receives the message. A programmer could write anything there: objc_msgSend( theButton, @selector( steakAndLobster: ), salad:YES, dressing:@1000 Islands, potato:@baked ). Now, because the existence of 'steakAndLobster' doesn't error at compile time you can probably see that unless the developer keeps abreast of OS changes diligently, things will slip through. Technically, it's not an OS error, it's a developer error. I think the fairer assessment of MS vs Apple's backward compatibility handling will come about whenever MS can get the Longhorn edition out the door. Let's see how F2K2/F2K3 does on that system because it's supposed to be Gate's rip-off of MacOS X features. Oh? Exactly how is the new file system (which is really what Longhorn is about) a ripoff of of OS X? It's a lot more than journalling (and journalling file systems are not new on UNIXesn, in any case, just something that OS X recently got). I didn't mention file systems specifically, but it's been possible to turn on journalling in OS X for quite some time. In fact, interpreting file system as the only significant thing in Longhorn might belittle it. But I guess that's why one can feel sorry for Microsoft users. I mean it seems you're relegated to talking about nuts and bolts like file systems whereas with Macintosh, the emphasis is abstracted several levels up and in the area of facilities for creative expression. ### A casual google for Longhorn features shows me the M$ equivalent of desktop presentation stuff that is already done in Panther. OS X features which will surely be more advanced by the time Longhorn makes it out of the starting gate. From: http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/32027.html The Longhorn spec, which will be fluid until the product is released to manufacturing, is covered in detail in other articles. But, in general, the operating system will have a user interface not unlike Apple OS X... ### One item which more than illustrates how behind-the-times Microsoft is in software concepts is the touted 'msh' -- which claims it can script objects: http://www.zefhemel.com/299.php. Pshaw! Guffaw! Macintosh has had object oriented scripting since 1987 (HyperTalk-AppleScript). As of OS X, we also have built-in support for tclsh, python, ruby, java, tcsh, bash, zsh, and sh, and 100s of traditional unix tools. All of these are accessible from AppleScript. You can pipe from shell calls to AppleScript. Furthermore, 10.2.3 and up supports scripting UI objects. ### Backwards compatible? From: http://news.com.com/2009-1016_3-5103226.html The next operating system, code-named Longhorn, promises... But those features come at a price: Most can be used only through client software that's designed specifically for the new system. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 07:28 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: What now? Boot from the Panther installation CD and run Disk Utility. Let it fix everything it wants to fix. If this won't solve the problem, you will probably need to reformat your drive and start fresh, but hopefully Norton didn't foul things up beyond the point of repair. Aeee. No, no, no. Disk Warrior will almost certainly fix this problem. (It has always fixed similar problems for me every time I've encountered them, and it did so when no other utility, including Apple's, did any good.) No need for any reformatting. Disk Warrior runs in OSX and knows all about OSX volumes. (FWIW: on older macs unsupported by OSX, it runs in OS9.) But Andrew brought up a remarkably similar issue several months ago and you proffered the same advice. Obviously he hasn't purchased DW and why should he? Seems to me that if one has a reasonably decent backup system, it's a useless expense because using Apple's Disk Utility does a good job at most repairs and provides complete facilities for re-formatting if it can't solve the problem. What's so weird about re-formatting anyway? Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Sunday, December 14, 2003, at 08:47 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: With Panther I can now see that I actually get a lot more from OS X than I would ever have got from an updated OS 9. That was always the goal of OS X. It was perhaps difficult to see how the merging of OS 9, NeXT, and Unix would coalesce in previous versions, but it's clearly visible in 10.3. It took some guts on Apple's part to pursue this vision. I think the fairer assessment of MS vs Apple's backward compatibility handling will come about whenever MS can get the Longhorn edition out the door. Let's see how F2K2/F2K3 does on that system because it's supposed to be Gate's rip-off of MacOS X features. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Sunday, December 14, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: After installing Panther, System 9 started alerting me that my catalog file was busted. I fixed it with Disc Doctor (which found and corrected a number of things, but I'm still getting the busted-catalog alert), whereupon OSX started telling me that all sorts of critical system files had bad cluster numbers (whatever those may be) and should be reinstalled! Now what? Back up everything, and reformat your disk into two (or more) partitions. Reserve one for installing OS 9 and one for 10.3. With Panther, I've heard that the best install is an Erase install. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Aaargh... More delays
On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 08:36 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: And I'm *not* looking forward to switching to OSX: I foresee endless hassles Attitude problem? and expense getting it to work properly. What I'm finding is that once the Midi stuff is taken care of, maintenance fees for OS X are actually cheaper. 33¢/per day is not unreasonable for the facilities available. Plus the number of free-ware or low cost items (OmniGraffle e.g) is astounding. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac OS X 10.3
On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 04:44 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: To those that have now had OS X 10.3 running for a while: how is it? Mostly excellent. I'm splitting my time between 10.2.8 and 10.3.1 right now. The difference is substantial. Is it everything you had hoped? What are the drawbacks (if you can think of any)? Still gotta couple of minor quirks. For example in the standard Find... dialog box, if I type my search word and then press the Return key, the Return character is actually entered into the search term instead of initiating the search. Not the traditional behavior (have to use the Enter key). Has anybody tried out the OS-level keyboard shortcut feature? Yes. It works, but I gotta say that the Keyboard Shortcuts preference pane is too dinky right now. How QuicKeys-like is that? Not quite there yet on the level of being able to assign keys to the Scripts menu however Apple Mail allows you to bind shortcuts to scripts. That's one application where the facility really useful. Are you still required to use the command key in every single shortcut? If you use System Preferences-Keyboard and Mouse-Keyboard Shortcuts, you may bind to the Control-Key as well. The top-level rule is if the key binds to a character which can be typed into a text-document then you can't assign it a shortcut. However one can get around this to a certain extent by using other methods to assign the keybindings. Note that to a certain extent bit. Some things are impossible if the application hasn't been coded according to the MacOS X guidelines. I have tested these alternate methods and they have been confirmed on a completely different setup by a very capable member of this list. These alternate methods can work with most Cocoa applications in Jaguar and have been upgraded to include Carbon applications in 10.3. Finale 2004 is Carbon... I know that that's a lot of questions... I'd welcome any response about this new OS version, though. Is it worth the upgrade? In spite of my Faire Complaintes, every bit worthwhile for my purposes. Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Using OS X Preview to create PDFs
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 02:33 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I don't know if this is a new feature in 10.3 or not, but I just discovered that Preview (Apple's OS X all-purpose graphics reader) can read PS files and convert them to PDFs. It's new. Before that I was using ESP GhostScript. Preview is supposed to do EPS as well but unfortunately will not page out a PDF or PS to multiple EPSes. This is a good request for http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/. Also, in case it's useful sometime, I read about several methods to combine PDFs into a single file on MacOSXHints. Like just drag several PDFs into a TextEdit rich text document, add text and other graphics as desired, and then print the combined result to PDF. Excellent feature. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale to mp3 or wav
On Sunday, November 23, 2003, at 05:49 AM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: It's the old The razor's free but the blades cost money philosophy that made Gillette wealthy. You have to pay for the songs you download to listen to with iTunes, but iTunes itself is free. Eh? I have a ton of my own music I digitised myself that plays perfectly well in iTunes, not to mention CD rips from my collection. To extend your analogy, it's as if Gillette gave you the option to use your own razor blades in its free razor. What really bugs me though is having to pay extra taxes for CDs when putting my own music (and or data) on them. And then the insult of watching said monies being squandered on the likes of Radwanski. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plugin develpment question
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: unfortunately, handles are totally inaccessible to plug-ins. Is anyone who tests future releases of Finale able to say whether this is out of the question or not for a future release? You should make a request to Finale support. Is it difficult for the programmers to make handle info available? It could be depending on how they are created. If they are simply drawn on screen as part of the drawing procedures, then it could be very difficult to abstract that kind of thing into being an object. If they are actually widgets, then perhaps not too hard. In any case, they are not part of the Enigma data that plugins normally access. They are part of the proprietary application code and as such, it is unlikely Coda will want to release its proprietary procedures. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] White Text Background
On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 02:22 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Tidying up a Fin 2001 score, I wish to add text- but almost like a sticky label- i.e. text on a white background which hides whatever it is placed on-be it staves, or leger lines or whatever. I know it's do-able- but how? You can use a Shape Expression for this effect. That is not necessary, at least in 2k3, any expression can be made to have an opaque background. I use this quite often for cresc. to break barlines. Hard to tell if Keith is using 2K1 or not. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] White Text Background
On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 05:55 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: That is not necessary, at least in 2k3, any expression can be made to have an opaque background. I use this quite often for cresc. to break barlines. Hard to tell if Keith is using 2K1 or not. Was this feature really only introduced after 2k1? I can't remember, but if not, Keith should be able to handle the problem. I am pretty sure it has been there longer, in which case it is much easier than a shape expression. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] PDF to finale?
On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 12:00 US/Pacific, Brad Beyenhof wrote: on 11/17/03 11:14 AM, Reuven wrote: Is there a way to import .pdf notation files into Finale? It is my impression that .pdf files are intended to be immutable digital hard copies, with the INTENT that they are not editable by a notation program or word processor or anything. It's an intellectual property kind of thing; if it were easy to edit them it would be too simple just to change the inscribed names and claim ownership. PDFs are meant to be portable (hence the name), not editable; therefore they are to be shared *with* others and not used *by* others. Not quite correct. PDF's are meant to be non-editable, non-printable, etc., only if the author so desires. Granted, one usually has to pay or become a geek to alter that state of affairs. Otherwise, it's governed by the settings of the process that created the PDF. This is my personal take on the issue, but I think you'll find many who'll agree. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Cautionary accidentals and repeated notes, octaves.
On Tuesday, Nov 11, 2003, at 13:13 US/Pacific, Raymond Horton wrote: Subject: Re: [Finale] TAN: Cautionary accidentals and repeated notes, octaves. [Brad Beyenhof:] Would you, on a sextuplet of Ab's, include the flat symbol on all six notes? That seems needlessly space-wasting to me, [Michael Edwards] Yes, AUGGGHHH! Dear Ray, Apologies for being an incorrigible nit-picker, but I think there's an exclamation point missing from that one liner of yours. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] sending a file
On Saturday, Nov 8, 2003, at 03:34 US/Pacific, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: Understood, and thanks to all who responded...how do we Mac guys ZIP a file? I can binhex with the best of em and I can go MacBinary too, but I thought ZIP was a PC only format. Is there a freeware or shareware program that I can download? For OS 10.2 or lower, besides the others mentioned, SmartZip (which will strip the resource fork if requested) For OS 10.3 or newer, Control-Click the file or directory in the Finder, there is a menu choice to zip directly from there. This option does preserve resource forks but they should unzip as two files on PC. HTH, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] text
On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 03:23 US/Pacific, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I am working on a setting for brass and narrator. I want to put the narrator's words into each brass part. I am giving thought to extracting the finished parts and want the text to extract easily without having to tweak position. Shall I: use the Text Tool or use the Expresson Tool or try to write lyrics Hi Larry, I would enter the lyrics into a staff with no lines, figure out some reasonable values for notes to attach them to so that they became placed roughly according to when they would be said in relationship to the music then hide those notes after all the lyrics are entered. There would be some tweaking of the lyric note durations involved and some experimentation as to whether or not to space with lyric notes accounted for. That way, the spacing should be ok (or easily fixed up) in the extracted parts. Each part of course would be extracted with the lyric staff. HTH, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Patterson plugins yahoolist has a worm?
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 08:39 US/Pacific, Tobias Giesen wrote: a worm inside Yahoo? No, it's just another kind of spam. Click here for a great dating service Maybe it wasn't a worm but a common trouser snake? Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac: OS X 10.3
On Saturday, Oct 25, 2003, at 14:22 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: So am I for my Wallstreet. Anyone heard of incompatibility reports yet? Seems there are some problems with existing applications. I did have a problem with the install. ... In my case, iTunes was the culprit... I saw a note in the TidBITS newsletter which put me on the right track to solving the iTunes installer problem. In case it's helpful for your upgrade at some point, it was a permissions error with the iTunes installer. No doubt because I had purposely changed some permissions in the System and Library folders them so I could edit files and changed others so as to easily work with the 'sendmail' facility. There doesn't seem to be any mention of re-setting permissions in the 10.3 install PDF but you may fix them from the Jaguar disk in case they have been altered. Anyway, I've now done a rather full install (extra apps, fonts, Developer Tools, X11) with zero problems. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac: OS X 10.3
On Wednesday, Oct 29, 2003, at 11:36 US/Pacific, Darcy James Argue wrote: Anyway, I've now done a rather full install (extra apps, fonts, Developer Tools, X11) with zero problems. You don't still have a beige G3, do you? Are you saying you've successfully installed Panther on that machine? Because if you have, you are the first person I've heard of that's managed to overcome that obstacle. For me (and everyone else I've heard from), trying to run the Panther installer generates a message that Panther cannot be installed because the computer is not supported, and trying to boot from the Panther CD results in a kernel panic early in the boot process. People have even tried installing Panther on the internal HD of another machine and then swapping that HD into the beige G3, without success. I didn't think it was possible to install Panther on a beige G3, at least not until the new XPostFacto is released. Hi Darcy, I installed it on a USB Mac. I will have to wait just like everyone else for da main from Harlem to come up with a pseudo USB device (or whatever) to trick Panther to run on old G3s. Assuming this will happen one day, I noticed that a minimal install of 10.3 doesn't take up much more space than Jaguar and in fact has more options for not installing irrelevant stuff like Internet Explorer. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ResEdit (Mac)
On Wednesday, Oct 29, 2003, at 14:53 US/Pacific, Richard Huggins wrote: I've used ResEdit a little to assign a key combo to an oft-used menu command in a few apps I like to use. I'm wondering if any of you Mac'ers ever successfully used it for the same purpose in Finale? I do know that QuicKeys and programmable mice can do this sort of thing, but I specifically am asking about ResEdit. And if you don't mind a little OT, how about if it can be used to do the same with Outlook Express? With ResEdit, what happens if you, despite efforts to avoid doing so, happen to choose an existing key combo? Will ResEdit stop you from that, or will the app you're altering crash if you try to use it, or will the app just go with the command that first had it? (I'm on Mac OS 8.6 using FinMac 2002.) Hello Richard, I have used ResEdit to change Finale's main menu items in the past successfully. However you may not affect Speedy commands and it's not advisable to change Apple's recommended HIG commands like Cmd-N, Cmd-C, Cmd-V, etc. You must first locate and remove commands from resources containing the same command unless you are sure it will be called in the correct order (right to left for menu bar items and top to bottom for drop down menus). Which is to say that if you make a command for an item in Mass Edit/Mass Mover you can use the same command in say the Lyrics menu with no problems (because it will not be in the menu bar at the same time) but the command will take precedence over the same command in a permanent menu like Options or View. One thing to note is that starting at (I think) 2K1, the mechanism is different than merely altering the 'MENU' resources. You should be able to find some extra (new) resources of that kind on my site but they only accommodate a few menus. If you're bound and determined to have these commands, I could probably find a link to the resource description somewhere. MS used to use resource type LIST for menus instead of type MENU in Word, but I can't speak specifically as to Outlook Express. You can't alter LIST resources because they are just stubs which provide the addresses of functions in the application code. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac: OS X 10.3
On Saturday, Oct 25, 2003, at 14:22 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 25.10.2003 23:10 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote I've just installed OS X Panther. Gee, I'm impressed. I can't wait. I actually *have* it already, but it won't install on my Beige G3, so I'm anxiously awaiting the new Panther-compatible release of XPostFacto. So am I for my Wallstreet. Anyone heard of incompatibility reports yet? Seems there are some problems with existing applications. I did have a problem with the install. And no, I didn't even open the manual. In my case, iTunes was the culprit but it is on disk #2 so the OS was already up and running successfully. I don't care much right now because I unchecked some Easy Install languages and choose some others so it could be a user error. But if it's Apple's error a popular application like that will have a fix available soon. I would like an XPostFacto shim too because I was upgrading from 10.1.5 and the system response is so much better. OS X Panther on a G3 would be workable if the speed enhancements kicked in. What's really striking for me is how the whole OS, which of course reflects the massive support available in the underlying Cocoa, Carbon, and Unix APIs, seems to have taken a solid stride into harmonization and maturity WRT to these diverse framework elements. I react favorably to a beautifully structured piece of music or a building with fine architectural features. If the form is known (or even deducible), then I participate in the expression. With Panther, I can see the unfolding of similar concepts in OS design. Very pleasing. Best wishes, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Word cuts in Italian
On Monday, Oct 20, 2003, at 16:57 US/Pacific, Mark D. Lew wrote: I think the separate syllable could be trac·ed back even further. English scholars, what say ye? Certainly. I thought the question was how *late* it persisted, not how early... There was a two part question from Dennis: Which reminds me of a question I've always wanted to ask about: in a Purcell piece (as published by Carus Verlag), the -ed of displeased has its own note. Does this mean it was actually pronounced at the time? When did the vocalic sound disappear? I was merely giving credence to your remark that it was used by Shakespeare and Marvell (actually pronounced at the time?) by showing that the pronunciation stemmed from a much earlier practice. I wasn't confusing Dennis' question with my own. Horace Brock pointed out that Shakespeare used either according to the meter. So it was with Chaucer. However, having read a bit further, I'm now coming to believe that the pronunciation may have been a linguistic practice which peaked (roughly) in the century before Shakespeare and may well have migrated from this or that part of England to another at different times. It was certainly sanctioned as poetic license during the time of Chaucer. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Mac: OS X 10.3
I've just installed OS X Panther. Gee, I'm impressed. Even though I'd seen a demo earlier this summer and was fairly well primed for what the new features would be. It seems like a more integrated and well thought out design compared to Jaguar. I hadn't read about the new text effects and was pleasantly surprised when just I noticed them in TextEdit. They work with some music fonts as well (I tried Engraver). Very nice for a dash of texture on cover pages or web pages. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Word cuts in Italian
On Sunday, Oct 19, 2003, at 16:21 US/Pacific, Mark D. Lew wrote: At 11:49 AM 10/19/03, d. collins wrote: Which reminds me of a question I've always wanted to ask about: in a Purcell piece (as published by Carus Verlag), the -ed of displeased has its own note. Does this mean it was actually pronounced at the time? When did the vocalic sound disappear? I think it was relatively recent. There's plenty of poetry from 17th century or thereabouts in which the final -ed is pronounced as a separate syllable. It persists intermittently into some later verse. Typically, the e is usually marked with a grave accent to indicate the extra syllable, but I don't know whether the poets wrote it that way or it's a helpful addition added by a later editor. Two that come immediately to mind: To gild refinèd gold, to paint the lily, (Shakespeare, King John) But at my back I always hear Time's wingèd chariot hurrying near: (Marvell, To His Coy Mistress) 19th century poets (Keats, Tennyson, Whitman, etc) frequently use an apostrophe for a word in which the -ed is NOT an extra syllable, which suggests that pronouncing the extra syllable was still considered not unusual. Chaucer: The Romaunt of the Rose Whanne best his tyme he myght espie, The which was named Curtesie; I think the separate syllable could be trac·ed back even further. English scholars, what say ye? Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MacFin 2004 - UK?
On Thursday, Oct 16, 2003, at 01:33 US/Pacific, Steven D Sandiford wrote: Hello (from *sunny* Manchester!) Equally sunny in Vancouver! Secondly, how *do* you go about installing Finale into Classic? Must I boot into OS9 and then continue as normal... Yes. And stay there for Finale until the combo is Finale2004/OS X. Otherwise, I suggest to do everything else possible on OS X since that's what's going on in the Mac world. For starting out, a real important menu item is in the AppleMenu-System Preferences. Besides Finder-Preferences, it is largely the user level master controller your new machine. In addition to the regular stuff like keyboard, mouse, etc., you'll find the Software Update panel. Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Basic Finale Questions 2
On Monday, Oct 13, 2003, at 08:17 US/Pacific, Stanford Chong wrote: ...I am a computer newbie and according to my friends, online means something in the internet and not inside the CD. It means that to me too. Finale shouldn't be confusing online with on disk. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Basic Finale Questions 2
On Monday, Oct 13, 2003, at 10:52 US/Pacific, David H. Bailey wrote: On-line, to me, means using it without having to stop what you're doing. It would be made so much clearer if they simply used electronic or pdf manual. Agree. Thing is (on Mac anyway) the manuals, both PDF and QuickHelp types are rendered in separate applications so an interruption is guaranteed. It would be much cleaner if they could be rendered directly to a Finale window. With F2K3 or lower the system facilities were limited to HTML but they weren't available to all systems Finale could run on. Perhaps after the cutoff point becomes OS X 10.2.3 we could have embedded PDF or HTML docs. Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Basic Finale Questions 2
On Monday, Oct 13, 2003, at 16:15 US/Pacific, Richard Huggins wrote: Thing is (on Mac anyway) the manuals, both PDF and QuickHelp types are rendered in separate applications so an interruption is guaranteed. It would be much cleaner if they could be rendered directly to a Finale window. With F2K3 or lower the system facilities were limited to HTML but they weren't available to all systems Finale could run on. Perhaps after the cutoff point becomes OS X 10.2.3 we could have embedded PDF or HTML docs. Count me out on your proposal. But (I'll admit) that's due partially to how very clunky the Reader PDF plug-in works inside an Explorer window (in my experience). Well Richard, I wasn't talking about rendering PDF pages in browsers at all. I would agree that your interpretation of what a PDF window can be is unfortunately marred by a sad Windows experience. I'm talking about using whatever the system has available to produce either HTML or PDF windows (as differing from using what 3rd party libraries may offer). We never had native PDF on OS 9 and due to Microsoft's entrenched position regarding zero PostScript support, folks stuck on those boxes will probably never get it. On OS X however, window content rendered with the system PDF APIs are fast becoming the norm. Even our screenshots are PDFs. Furthermore, as of about OS 10.2.3 or so, Safari engine powered HTML windows are available with some very slick new APIs. Actually the Cocoa ones are so easy it's unbelievable. It takes about two hours to get a reasonable facsimile of a browser with history. Which I can happily demonstrate at this very moment with an OS X demo I've concocted available at http://idisk.mac.com/philip_aker/Public/SampleBrowser.dmg [1]. It allows users to choose or embed their web site in the app so it always shows first (good for supporting documentation of projects). Just for fun, and as a completely arbitrary choice, I had this one open up to Andrew Stiller's Kallisti site. [1] Requires at least 10.2.3 and Safari installed or Panther. Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: disclaimer [was Re: [Finale] Ted Ross reprint]
On Saturday, Aug 16, 2003, at 13:57 US/Pacific, Mark D Lew wrote: This is Apple's Mail, which comes pre-installed. I'm honestly not sure what it's doing to the text I send. (I just hope it isn't making HTML code out of it) I haven't yet decided whether to get back on board with Eudora or make a jump to the Bat. You can tweak the Composing preferences in Apple Mail to be sure of non-HTML postings. But if I remember some of your personal preferences for computers correctly, you might enjoy using the unix 'pine' email application in conjunction with a GUI emailer. It comes in a standard installer package and is very fast for scanning email before you decide to download it to disk with Mail. I've got it setup for Safari to open links contained in email and am piping its print command though a formatter before it goes thru 'lp' to the printer. If you feel comfortable dealing with it's configuration and .pinerc editing, it can be very efficient. Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: lyrics discussion [LONG] (was Re: BUG fix / FIN 2k5 Feature Request)
On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 19:26 US/Pacific, Mark D. Lew wrote: It's not completely unheard of to want a hyphen in the middle of a syllable in standard music with normal fonts. I remember that happening for me in a French text once. There may be some specialty fonts around with various lines in them that could pass for hyphens. For instance I used the arrows from a font containing geographical symbols until Shape Designer/Smart Shapes were upgraded. To buy Fontographer for the creation and/or adaption of a font for the purpose may or may not be an option for you, but I forgot to mention that if all you need is a single slot font, one the Adobe manuals (Cookbook??) gives an example of how to do this. A kludge could be to put a non-breaking space in the required position and then placing a hyphen-as-shape expression over top. However, I think what everyone should be pressing for is for Finale to be a full Unicode capable application. Then one could use a hyphen look-a-like character from another font--adjusting baseline, font size, etc. For instance take a peek at slot 207B in Futura Medium in the Character Palette (Superscripts and Subscripts category) and another choice in the Small Form Variants category. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Page reduction vs. Staff reduction (again!)
On Friday, Sep 19, 2003, at 16:36 US/Pacific, Brad Beyenhof wrote: ... and why would you want the title, composer, copyright, etc. to change size just because you want to resize the music? Because I expect that besides myself, several other Finalists have worked out things such that we can change output page sizes easily. For me, this occurs most often when I want to go from a two-staff 4 part sketch or a piano-vocal to a fuller orchestration. And that's when I want title text to change size (i.e. don't want 30 point fixed-size text in a 2-up on US Letter). This might not be a typical copyist's concern, but for folks into composing and arranging, this is the kind of flexibility that we appreciate--it's the flow factor. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Newer Mac to serial port printer
On Wednesday, Sep 17, 2003, at 19:33 US/Pacific, Klaus Bjerre wrote: I dont print that much after hooking up on the web and using Adobe Acrobat for creating .pdf files. Yet it bothers me quite a bit, that I have a very good printer, an Apple Laser Writer Select 360, which I only can utilise in a quite cumbersome way: Sending .pdf files via Ethernet to my older PowerMac. Deselect AppleTalk on the old PM. Reset AppleTalk to operate via the Printer port. And first then order the printing to go on. If there is any proofing to be done, the endless row of resets takes the fun out of any printing situation. So for the daily printing tasks I have a HP psc 950, which however cannot compete in BW output quality. Keyspan makes an USB Twin Serial Adapter: http://www.keyspan.com/products/usb/usa28x/ Which however is not compatible with the Apple Laser Writer Select 360. Keyspam advises on the existence of solutions, which can connect such serials printers to Ethernet. But as they don't make them, they don't give any specifications such a makers or more. Could somebody in this cunning forum kindly point me in the right direction? Hello Klaus, If you have a really old Mac, an old system like 7.5.3, and an Ethernet card in the old Mac, you should be able to use the LaserWriter Bridge software to have printing hooked up so you don't have to switch AppleTalk. It is working for me very well but my printer is different and the driver for it comes with OS X. You may be able to find an OS X driver for the 360 in the Gimp distributions. LaserWriter Bridge is distributed as part of some old system extras package that might be called Network Software Install. It is available from the Apple archives. The Stealth adapter can work with a LaserWriter Bridge for OS X product the same company makes and gives away for free. Lastly, I've heard some rumors about serial port printing being implemented in Panther so that could be another option if it turns out to be true. It will work like how holding down the Option key and choosing Add Printer from the menu bar menu in Print Center does in Jaguar. HTH, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: lyrics discussion [LONG] (was Re: BUG fix / FIN 2k5 Feature Request)
On Wednesday, Sep 17, 2003, at 22:10 US/Pacific, Mark D. Lew wrote: Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that Finale has hard-wired one particular ASCII character and made it unavailable. The one time this problem really bit me in the butt was not with a non-breaking hyphen at all, but because I wanted to use a freeware Cyrillic font that mapped a certain letter onto the usual ASCII slot for hyphen, putting the hyphen elsewhere. This font was simply unusable in Finale, and I was unable to complete the piece on schedule. I have since gotten a better Cyrillic font, but the fact remains that Finale has tied itself to a certain font mapping. There ought to be some sort of indirection to get around it. For that matter, you could blame the lack of non-breaking hyphen not on the Mac OS, but on the font designers. The only reason it works in Windows is because a standard Windows font has a second character which looks identical to a hyphen. Any Mac font could be designed to do the same thing, regardless of what the OS says. Mark, The slot mappings for text fonts are fairly well carved in stone at this point and all the slots are used up in the Mac encodings. There has to be standardization in order for multiple manufacturers to be able to deliver products which work with other products. The idea of user assignable key maps is not certainly not new and there are a few text applications I know of which can implement this sort of thing. Most notably EMACS, Alpha, and the Cocoa frameworks in OS X. However I'm under the impression that the overwhelming usage is to customize the bindings for slots 128255 and leave the ASCII ones untouched (thus leaving a lowest common denominator of 7 bit text). Furthermore, that this _is_ the convention is used by font designers when remapping slots in text fonts. So I think the font you had was Rogue Cyrillic. I don't disapprove of your idea for a changeable hyphen slot though, and I'd like up the ante a bit by saying that the designated hyphen slot should be optionally rendered as a graphic. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Newer Mac to serial port printer
On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 15:31 US/Pacific, Darcy James Argue wrote: On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 06:04 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Lastly, I've heard some rumors about serial port printing being implemented in Panther so that could be another option if it turns out to be true. It will work like how holding down the Option key and choosing Add Printer from the menu bar menu in Print Center does in Jaguar. Even if the rumour is true, I wonder whether the Laserwriter actually understands plain serial, or whether it is in fact a LocalTalk only printer. In which case there is _very_ little hope that it will be supported by any OS X solution in the future. Actually, according to Asanté's website, their product allows (some) LocalTalk-based Apple LaserWriters to print in OS X *right now*. http://www.asante.com/products/adapters/asantetalk/ I'd make a guess that the Panther implementation will be tied into CUPS and possibly the installation of some of the GimpPrint drivers which have been ported from Unix/Linux serial printing. As to LocalTalk support, I can't say, and although I've got my problems solved, it's been kind of irksome that Apple hasn't prioritized this item for the transition period. The existence of the LaserWriter Bridge patch would seem to be a bit of an embarrassment because they could have been selling OS X to those who've delayed upgrading for that very reason. And here's an example of someone who _really_ wanted to get things working: http://www.mcgillis.org/~matthew/printing.html. I think it's not a LocalTalk device but certainly proves that where there's a will, there's a way. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] MacOS X: Panther and EDU labs
For Mac users only: We had a preview of Panther and G5s at our user group on Tuesday evening. Unfortunately I cannot reveal new details because if we wanted to see features not available on any Apple sites, we had to oblige their beta NDA. What I can say though, is that Apple rep said they are offering 3 years of free OS X upgrades with $US129.00 Panther site licenses. This is a really good deal, so if you are in a position to request or authorize those orders, you might want to check it out further. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fonts
On Monday, Sep 8, 2003, at 11:05 US/Pacific, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: Ah. What you are asking about is UNICODE support. That's something we're not I mean support with the possibility to use all of their characters, for instance the ligatures for ct and st for the OT fonts that have them. Is this possible? Actually on win32 you can support ligatures without doing unicode. You have to use the new uniscribe libraries to do the text rendering, and as I understand it they will automatically use any ligatures that are available. I don't know how OSX handles it, but I think there's a similar feature... that way the application doesn't have to query the fonts to obtain the correct ligatures, it's handled by the output library. Thanks for this x86 info Benjamin, On OS X, the recommend choice is to use the native Unicode string containers for everything and display with controls/views that are specialized for Unicode. It's easiest to do this in Cocoa but is also available in Carbon when the preferred API sets are used. I've put in a request for Unicode handling and hope others will do the same. The industry won't be backing off on this direction and the sooner Finale offers true Unicode support the better. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dot question
On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 07:28 US/Pacific, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: ... you could enter one of the notes as an undotted note, then enter the proper rest to preserve spacing and hide it using letter O in Speedy Entry. Since the note is a unison, the improper length probably won't be a problem. I've been altering the duration of the un-dotted note with the Midi Tool because on playback, the dropout is noticeable to the ear. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: PDF Versions
On Wednesday, Sep 3, 2003, at 08:08 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Although I do use Reader 5 (and I like it for the anti-aliasing) I convert only to Reader 3 Format usually (ie PDF V 1.2). I see no point using later versions, certainly as far as music is concerned. Is there? The only thing I'd check is whether or not embedded TrueType fonts are taken care of properly (and I believe they are). Otherwise, I concur with sending out the lowest version possible. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: PDF Versions
On Wednesday, Sep 3, 2003, at 10:36 US/Pacific, Tim Thompson wrote: I was pretty impressed with the demo of Preview under Panther at MacWorld in July. It is much faster than the current incarnation, and s much faster than Acrobat reader (I think the demo compared it to version 6??). I don't know if it adds features to the current feature set or not, but for simple viewing of PDFs, it is really amazing. http://www.apple.com/macosx/panther/preview.html. View EPS! We'll be getting a full demo of Panther at our user group next Tuesday. I'll be asking about the key binding features in particular as they will be excellent with Finale. The new AppleScript features can act like macros using menu items, window widgets (buttons, popups, checkboxes, etc.), typing text or commands, work from the Script menu with mouse clicks. Anyone using 10.2.3 or later can use them right now to script previously non-scriptable OS X applications. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed
On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 17:08 US/Pacific, David W. Fenton wrote: On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 08:54 US/Pacific, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I never keep daily-use drives more that 10-12 months anyway -- always upgrading to bigger and faster ones. :) Astounding what PC users perceive as normal . . . Er, Dennis's comments are not in line with anything normal at all. I've never replaced a single drive in any PC I've ever owned or in any of my clients' PCs, either. The occasional hard drive has gone bad in the first few months of use of a new PC, but that's maybe a dozen times in the near decade I've been doing this kind of thing for a living. I've *added* lots of drives, but I've hardly ever seen drives go bad. If I could go by these comments and those of David Bailey, Dennis does seem kind of kinky (or perhaps promiscuous) with regard to drive usage. However, I rather like the fact that he has modularized his whole system. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed
On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 19:05 US/Pacific, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I wonder what ever happened to the TerraBytes-In-Size-Of-SugarCube prophecy I heard about in the early 1990s? That's really where the industry should be heading. It is. Have you tried the memory drive keychains? 128MB or memory on a little stick? Handy things. And memory geometry just took another step down, meaning memory size will increase. Gigabyte memory keychains are months away. But there are problems with these right now. Both their rewrite life and shelf life are limited -- making them excellent temporary storage solutions only. I've seen a 64 Meg one used successfully but that or 128 Meg is not nearly enough storage even for a person with modest requirements. But really I was talking about terabyte capacity speculations the size of a sugar cube. Things that would have a ~20 year life and not be prone to the routine crumbling previously mentioned. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed
On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 04:25 US/Pacific, David H. Bailey wrote: Speaking from the PC world, I don't view drives as consumables with short shelf lives, either. I have an old Packard-Bell Pentium (yes the original) which is about 8 years old (or however old the Pentium chip is) and it has the original drives I put in to replace the original small drive, and they still work just fine. But I do need to say that I have never (knock on wood) had an ATA drive crumble at all, let alone every 10-12 months. It's like the electro-magnetic field holding it all together would collapse. First time it happened I didn't know it was coming and thought it was something I'd done with CodeWarrior. Second time though, I recognized the symptoms and backed up right away. Re-formatting the disk puts things back to normal. Never had the problem with SCSI drives. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Key signature question
On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 14:09 US/Pacific, John Howell wrote: OK, you're notating a blues in D -- that's D mixolydian. What's your key signature, the standard 2 sharps with an accidental for every C, or 1 sharp to reflect the mode? Don't know any rule (I never do!), but I'd use 2 sharps because 1 sharp implies a tonic on G and would introduce confusion. Bartok got away with using non-standard key signatures, but most people don't attempt them. This is, of course, quite a different thing from the minor key baroque pieces which lacked a flat in the key signature that we would think should be there. Some modern editors add that flat, others do not. And it was, indeed, the result of modal dorian practice carrying over into the baroque period. But it strikes me that this would not carry over into neo-modal practice. I look forward to the definitive answers. I believe the definitive answer is that blues are notated in the key of the tonic by overwhelming convention. Convention which is dictated by the ear. An ear which clearly makes the distinction between western concepts of modality and tonality and something which is derived from another plane of musical expression entirely. Hence there isn't really any choice other than notating a blues in the tonic because that's one concept that is in common. I also believe that the so-called blues scales are misplaced imposition on the genre and that the fundamental notion is closer to a collection of intervals which has more kinship with eastern musics like Gamelan and Chinese pentatonic for it's melodic and harmonic sense. The fact that we usually hear blues voiced on western instruments can mislead us into thinking a piece which is in a blues *form* is a blues. That's not the case at all, and I'm certainly pleased at the distinction jazz players make about their genre as being blues-derived but not strictly blues. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed
On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 02:33 US/Pacific, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: (who likes the consumer-enabled low-level access of SCSI and is fighting tooth and nail -- but with reducing pocketbook -- against moving his new Mac machines to ATA) Compared to SCSI, I find ATA drives to be unreliable. With OS 8-9, it was guaranteed that the one I have would crumble every 10-12 months whereas the older SCSI ones I have just keep on going. With less noise too. Things seem slightly better with OS X, but I can't say for sure because I've been reformatting/re-installing for different OS setups more often than that. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed
On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 02:33 US/Pacific, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: I would never think to run Norton, or any other disk utility, against my boot disk; I would always either boot from another disk or CD. This may be a paranoid attitude, but until I know far more about OS X I feel that it is a valid precaution. For OS X, you can boot into Single User mode and try to repair from there. However, when OS X and OS 9 are in the same partition, using an OS 9 repair utility (even Apple's) can change things which don't consider OS X requirements. Consequently things can get messed up badly for the OS X boot process and normal operations. Speaking from personal experience which was not pleasant... Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed
On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 08:54 US/Pacific, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Compared to SCSI, I find ATA drives to be unreliable. With OS 8-9, it was guaranteed that the one I have would crumble every 10-12 months whereas the older SCSI ones I have just keep on going. I never keep daily-use drives more that 10-12 months anyway -- always upgrading to bigger and faster ones. :) Astounding what PC users perceive as normal--I'm using a 10 year old Mac with the original SCSI drive for my print server. And still have two other old SCSI drives that still work fine. Granted, we're not talkin' 120 Gigs here, but I certainly don't have the concept that drives are consumables with a short shelf life. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed
On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 15:27 US/Pacific, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: But I think your comment had to do with ATA vs. SCSI drive life. I think this may be new vs. old more than anything else. These days the same hardware usually ends up in both kinds of consumer drives, so a more reasonable comparison would be with present vs. past drives. The old ATA drives were just as rugged. Could be, Macs never had ATI drives pre-installed until something like 1997. As a long time SCSI user, the difference in quality when getting the first ATI was immediately apparent though. But lower prices coupled with increased size and faster performance demands tend to conspire against long drive life in continuous use. Sad but true. I wonder what ever happened to the TerraBytes-In-Size-Of-SugarCube prophecy I heard about in the early 1990s? That's really where the industry should be heading. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacOS 9 help needed
On Friday, Aug 29, 2003, at 07:23 US/Pacific, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 29.08.2003 15:59 Uhr, Andrew Stiller wrote Speaking of which: my virgin OSX is System 10.0, so I will have to upgrade it to use FinMac 2K4 when it arrives. I see that Apple is about to release 10.3 (Panther), but they don't say when. Should I upgrade to 10.2 now, or wait for the newer system to come out? I'd say wait. The FinMac version is only due in October, and the rumours suggest that by that time 10.3 may be out. It may save you paying for the update twice, plus you will only have to reinstall once. I would wait as well. Panther is supposed to be out on September 15. But that's only based on monetary and installation factors. Another factor, which cannot be underestimated, is to become familiar with OS X in general so as to take advantage of it. For instance, adapting to a new emailer, backup mechanism, becoming familiar with the layout and organization of the file system, or finding out which things replace assorted utilities that would have been used on OS 9 takes time. Or even just to learn that doing a custom install to get extra fonts but not install the support files for unnecessary languages and printers can save substantial disk space, search times, install times, and give a slight speed boost. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] human playback
On Wednesday, Aug 27, 2003, at 13:45 US/Pacific, Chuck Israels wrote: Those who get expressive results seem to spend endless hours tweaking their files. Well, not endless, but in order to get to that state, it took a good year to acclimatize to Finale's output capabilities--especially in the area of articulations and expressions with playback attributes. But hey Chuck, I remember one of the kinder, gentler folks on this list once mentioning how they might take hours to decide between a Dm7 and Dm7b5 chord marking... :-) Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rhyming Dictionary
On Friday, Aug 22, 2003, at 08:20 US/Pacific, Ray Horton wrote: In the meantime I googled up a nice one at http://www.rhymezone.com/ Thanks Ray, Cool tool. Best wishes, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Screen Rotation
My reply to Darcy yesterday was put on hold to the list because I didn't reply from the address my subscription to the list requires. Duh. I see in a later post by Robert Patterson that he suspects the holdup was with OpenGL implementation. I believe that's a reasonable guess because it certainly isn't QuickDraw that can't handle screen rotation. On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 14:31 US/Pacific, Darcy James Argue wrote: Oh, I see. You might try writing to ATI tech support, then. Looks like the branch is at 10.2.5. Meaning I guess, that it can be installed and used right now: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/9800pro_Mac/mac_9800_pro_faq.html -- What OS versions are supported by the RADEON 9800 Pro? Will it work in Mac OS 9? Mac OS X 10.2.5 and later are supported. The release software for the RADEON 9800 Pro includes drivers that will install on versions 10.2.5 and 10.2.6 of Mac OS X... Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Screen Rotation
On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 13:00 US/Pacific, Darcy James Argue wrote: I'd like to get really clear on this myself. Somehow, after following a few of the links suggested, I was left with the impression that it was supported as of OS X 10.2.5 (provided one has a card which avails itself of the supported features of course). Darcy, No. The screen rotation is enabled through the ATI Displays control panel, a third-party utility which is ... That's not what I'm wondering about (direct support). I'm trying to find out the OS version which first implemented the (currently) undocumented API. I've seen this kind of thing happen quite a bit on the Carbon list. What happens is that some feature gets implemented in say version x.1.1. Because it's not a major release, Apple won't officially document it until version x.2.0 but may let folks know about it's availability sooner just in case developers want to support it (by branching code on the OS release version). Philip ... included along with the drivers for the retail version of the ATI Radeon 9800. So far the feature (called Versavision) is only supported on that specific video card, through the ATI Displays control panel. Right now, there is no direct support for screen rotation in 10.2.5, 10.2.6, or any other edition of Mac OS X. However, some reviews of the 9800 make it sound like the screen rotation is exploiting an unsupported (by Apple) feature in Quartz Extreme. So it's possible we may see other third parties exploiting this same feature, or eventually, direct support by Apple. But so far, the ATI solution is the only one out there. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Screen Rotation
On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 14:31 US/Pacific, Darcy James Argue wrote: Oh, I see. You might try writing to ATI tech support, then. Looks like the branch is at 10.2.5. Meaning I guess, that it can be installed and used right now: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/9800pro_Mac/mac_9800_pro_faq.html -- What OS versions are supported by the RADEON 9800 Pro? Will it work in Mac OS 9? Mac OS X 10.2.5 and later are supported. The release software for the RADEON 9800 Pro includes drivers that will install on versions 10.2.5 and 10.2.6 of Mac OS X... Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Screen Rotation
On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 10:36 US/Pacific, Darcy James Argue wrote: On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 01:37 PM, BlueScreen wrote: Thank you to all who responded. It looks very useful for viewing scores, specifically. Interesting that the new G5s ship with this option enabled in the OS. Actually, it's *not* enabled in the OS (so far). I'd like to get really clear on this myself. Somehow, after following a few of the links suggested, I was left with the impression that it was supported as of OS X 10.2.5 (provided one has a card which avails itself of the supported features of course). G5s seem to be running Jaguar 10.2.6. It is enabled in the (third-party) ATI Displays control panel, and so far it only works with the ATI's Radeon 9800 video card. In fact, if you get the OEM Radeon 9800 in your G5 (available as a $350 build-to-order option), you may even have to download the ATI drivers and control panels separately to enable this functionality. [It's a complicated situation... Apple maintains the drivers for the video cards that are included in the Macs they sell. In fact, those drivers are embedded into the OS. Meanwhile ATI maintains the drivers for their retail products. Since the Radeon 9800 is available in *both* OEM and retail versions, OEM customers can choose which set of drivers they want to use, Apple's built-in drivers or ATI's drivers (the retail drivers work just fine with the OEM card). And so far as I know, only the ATI retail drivers (+ control panel) support display rotation. That may change soon, though -- I guess we'll have to wait and see.] Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: disclaimer [was Re: [Finale] Ted Ross reprint]
On Saturday, Aug 16, 2003, at 13:57 US/Pacific, Mark D Lew wrote: This is Apple's Mail, which comes pre-installed. I'm honestly not sure what it's doing to the text I send. (I just hope it isn't making HTML code out of it) I haven't yet decided whether to get back on board with Eudora or make a jump to the Bat. You can tweak the Composing preferences in Apple Mail to be sure of non-HTML postings. But if I remember some of your personal preferences for computers correctly, you might enjoy using the unix 'pine' email application in conjunction with a GUI emailer. It comes in a standard installer package and is very fast for scanning email before you decide to download it to disk with Mail. I've got it setup for Safari to open links contained in email and am piping its print command though a formatter before it goes thru 'lp' to the printer. If you feel comfortable dealing with it's configuration and .pinerc editing, it can be very efficient. Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2004 on site
On Wednesday, Aug 6, 2003, at 11:16 US/Pacific, Richard Huggins wrote: Apparently, if you can at least run system 9.0.4, you can use this upgrade even though some features may not be available to you. This is good for anyone like me with a dinosaur Mac that can't run OS X. I believe it's possible to upgrade from OS 9 to OS 9.2.2 by using a series of free update installers from Apple. The 9.2.x updates must be applied in stages. Lotta downloads though... Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How to use freemidi inter-application midi with Finale???
On Tuesday, Feb 18, 2003, at 21:03 America/Vancouver, Steve Schow wrote: Does anyone know if its possible to use the inter-application midi feature of FreeMidi with Finale? I can't seem to make Finale talk to Kontakt via freemidi.. It works between digital performer and Kontakt, but not between finale and kontakt. Does anyone know if Finale supports inter-application midi? I know for sure it does with OMS and Max. Take the bus route. :) Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How to use freemidi inter-application midi with Finale???
On Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003, at 10:17 America/Vancouver, Tim Thompson wrote: Yes, OMS works fine for this, and FM does to when you have it in OMS slave mode, by it is difficult to make this work in Finale with FreeMidi alone. FreeMidi doesn't allow the user to specify an application to a bus. It only has an option to allow IA connections, which works with MOTU products, and other products that support IAC. I'm not exactly sure of this because I don't actually use FreeMidi and only set it up once for a friend of mine last year. But doesn't FM assume an existing OMS configuration? Like if you set up the OMS bus wiring, and then (re)install FM, would FM then pick up the OMS bus assignments? It's all a bit confusing to me, but a confusion that won't last more than a few more months until OMS and FM are both out with the bathwater! Truth to tell, I've always disliked OMS and that confusing (read asinine) pre-flight search box. At least it's gone in Audio/Midi Setup. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music fonts (A quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog)
On Friday, Feb 14, 2003, at 10:43 America/Vancouver, d. collins wrote: Does anyone have a good idea of a short musical phrase or piece that would be well suited to try out a music font? Sort of the equivalent of the brown fox and the lazy dog phrase, though it is much more difficult to get a good idea of a font from just a short excerpt. Perhaps something for piano, to have at least two clefs? If you're on Mac you can use the Text Editor plugin for font listings. Choose the font either before or after a listing has been created. It includes an option for displaying the slot numbers as well. You may transfer the listings to Text Blocks and print. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Buying a new computer soon...
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 08:41 PM, Crystal Premo wrote: I will be buying a new computer soon, so I seek your advice. I have seen some of your remarks about OSX, and followed various past threads about the pros and cons about PC's vs. MAC. One advantage of a Mac is that the PC emulator VirtualPC http://www.connectix.com/products/vpc6m.html works very well. I make plugins with it and many people use it to cater to both markets but still have the advantages of the Mac--in our case, there's absolutely no doubt about the advantages of PostScript and PDF printing (or files) straight out of the box. And a PDF clipboard which can be converted to other graphics formats. In addition, batch printing from the command line that can really speed up a project if there are associated files like TIFFs, JPEGs, HTML, text, .ps, PDFs, etc., in a folder. You can just cue the whole folder for printing and continue working (or go for lunch if you have enough paper in the printer). It's also a fully Unix capable environment capable of running several thousand (free) applications for that platform. Big ones. Like an XWindows Office package which can handle lots of M$ imports and exports. Not that you'd necessarily need it if you are familiar with the TeX/LaTeX document processing system or other utilities like EMACS. Other software includes iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iCal, a decent email application, Address Book, text editor (can drop in graphics), scripting facilities, CD/DVD burning, Acrobat Reader, and (doubt if you're interested) a complete development environment which handles and integrates 5 major programming categories. Not to mention the excellent new Safari browser or OmniWeb (in addition to IE, Netscape variants, and several others). HTH, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Microsoft Musical Instruments
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 01:25 AM, Steve Schow wrote: Hey everyone. I am trying to hunt down a copy of Microsoft Musical Instruments CDROM. Its no longer in production, not for a long time. I don't even know for sure if it will run on Windows XP. But I am nonetheless looking for it. Anyone have it or know where I can find it? Not a clue but you'll probably have a much better work if you order Andrew Stiller's CD from Nick's website: http://www.npcimaging.com/Soft/Stiller.htm Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Type 2 Error
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 10:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Recently, every time I quit Finale, I get a message that Finale has unexpectedly quit because of a Type 2 Error. This problem has been discussed and explored by all the Mac plugin developers for over a year now. It is related to some commonly available code (a patch) which determines whether or not one is in page view and the current page/measure number. The code is based on an ancient 68K style of patching which chokes on MacOS 9.2 or later under certain conditions. The only way for plugin developers to avoid this problem is to use a special library I've created called ViewInfo. However, it only solves the situation for the above mentioned items and not for any other kinds of patches which a developer might have implemented. ViewInfo is Carbon compatible but theoretically, the PDK for a Carbonized Finale will have APIs for the items in question and nobody will have to resort to such low level shenanigans anymore... Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Mac double processors and Altivec
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 05:56 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 06:55 PM, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: I am interested to guess whether Finale OS X will automatically take advantage of double processors. Indeed, I have made my own requests to Coda that it should do so, as well as make use of the Altivec processor which is on every G4 processor. Perhaps a Mac OS X guru like Phillip Aker could fill us in as to whether this would make any difference within Finale. Certainly Mac Finale needs something to catch up to the speed of the PC version. Matthew, The Altivec vector instruction set seems to be most useful in hard number-crunching situations like ripping MP3s, applying certain types of Photoshop filters, or working in mathematics applications like MatLab. My impression -- and I'm sure Philip will correct me if I'm wrong -- is that typical Finale tasks are not good candidates for Altivec acceleration. That's correct because the _current_ Finale doesn't use floating point numbers that much. For instance in many dialogs you will see that you can enter unit values with a decimal point but in actual fact the APIs will translate those values into a storage type which packs those values into 32 bit integer (small EVPU = 1/64 EVPU). There's nothing faster than a 32 bit integer add on the PPC implementation we are all using and floating point calculation for IEEE doubles beats the pants off of an Intel at the same processor speed. And I've heard conflicting reports about the extent to which multiple processors are automatically enabled by OS X, without requiring applications to be coded specifically for DP. The short answer is that if Finale 2004 is a well-written Carbon app, than it should see some benefit from having the dual processors. Just how much is unclear. The API names for these have the prefix MP (MultipleProcessor) and I know that Finale as of at least 2002 uses some of them. But to what extent I don't know. That's because as of about Mac OS 9.1.x or 9.2 the OS will automatically redirect some Toolbox calls to use MP calls and when you see them in MacsBug, it's kinda hard to tell who is actually generating the call. An example is the Delay() function which is used to make the OK or Cancel button blink when invoked by a keyboard command. Previously, it would completely block any background application processing but now it is mapped to MPDelayUntil() (which lets other processes continue while waiting). Applications have to specifically implement multiple processor handling though. Finale could benefit from this because of it's use of disk files for temp files and undo chain is similar to Project Builder. PB itself only upgraded to multiple processor handling as of December 2002 Development Tools release. (Anyone care to place bets whether the 970-based Macs will debut before an OS X version of Finale?) Ha! Count your blessings -- at least it's not like Sibelius, where Mac performance is unbelievably atrocious even on the simplest scores. Sibelius appears to write every damn setting it has each time one chooses a menu item or closes a dialog. Totally bizarre. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Archiving music digitally
On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 12:46 PM, Michael Good wrote: Regarding the recent posts about digital archiving: MusicXML was designed in part for just this sort of archival purpose. Because it is a text-based format - not binary like PDFs - PDFs are usually binary because of the advantage of using compression for both storage space and transmission speed. It's perfectly legal to write PDFs in text format (and about the only way to get comfortable with the format--which becomes reasonably legible if one knows the tags). In addition there are PDF-PostScript convertors. PostScript is text. For most musicians, the practical side of this is being able to reuse your music if your software company goes out of business (like Music Printer Plus) Yes. Keep up the Good work! Cheers, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN Audio from DVD
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 06:08 AM, Steven D Sandiford wrote: A question for the collective wisdom of the Finale List I wish to transcribe some music from off a DVD. I have downloaded a shareware programme that helps in this respect a great deal, as long as you have an audio file to run it across. Does anyone know of software (for Mac) that would allow me to create audio files off the soundtrack of the DVD? Steven, Have you tried iTunes? You set the output file type in its Preferences and then choose from the Advanced menu a Convert To MP3/AIFF/Wave item. These features are on the OS X version. I don't know what iTunes can handle on OS 9 or earlier. HTH, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Reduced activity?
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Stokes, Randy wrote: Is it just me, or has the activity on this list dropped off dramatically over the last few months? I'm getting less than a half-dozen messages a day. I'm worried that my spam filter may be getting over-zealous. Have patience Randy, the OS X version of Finale will be out RSN, and you'll have comments galore! 8-) Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Text/masking over slurs
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 09:38 AM 1/21/03 +0100, Michael Cook wrote: It's all a question of what gets drawn first on the screen. And for a longtime need in Finale: a send backwards and send to back command for overlapping items, as is available in programs like Paint Shop Pro and Pagemaker. Right now, I think this would only be possible with elements of the same type. There is no base class called FinGraphicElement (or whatever). The elements are according classed to their functionality. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: pdf problem
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 01:50 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 08.01.2003 19:33 Uhr, Andrew Stiller wrote Help! I just rebuilt my desktop (Mac OS 9.2) and now Acrobat Reader 5.0 crashes whenever I try to print something (HP LaserJet 5000N, LW 8 printer driver). Adobe's help files are no help. Any assistance wd. be greatly appreciated. Do you really have 5.0? I had print problems with 5.0 when I first installed it, until I updated it to 5.05. On the other hand, I recently had a problem where Reader would give me an error (Document X could not be printed). The problem went away after I rebuilt the desktops of all my partitions (not just the system partition). I have no idea what caused it. Well (and pertaining also to your previous query about installing OS X in correct partition), I've had my own horror story with Acrobat Reader. I tried to upgrade to Reader 5.0.5 when I did not have OS X installed in the first partition. Totally destroyed the Installer application, hung OS X, and created disk problems that nothing could fix (6 missing threads). Yeah really, never upgrade in the middle of a project. I had to erase the whole disk and reinstall from scratch. It's fixed now, but that was a hard lesson because they say that for older machines like mine, OS X must be in the first 8 Gigs but what they really mean is that it must be on the first partition within 8 Gigs. I'm not printing PDFs from OS 9 much anymore but I decided to stick with Reader 4 for the older OS. I can't remember the exact problems, but suffice it to say that it was easier to stick with something guaranteed to work. Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS export and X-Press (on Mac)
Greetings Vincent, One place you might try asking is on the AppleScript users list. There are a number of Quark users on it such as newspaper editors/layout managers and other graphics industry professionals who might be able to help. You can subscribe to it at: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/applescript-users HTH, Philip On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 07:05 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, One of my publishers asked me to do a Quark X-Press file containing EPS music samples. Here's what I did : - I made my music samples in Finale (2001). - I then used the Export Graphics function with the Graphics Tool - I used the EPS format with Include fonts checked. - I then opened Quark X-Press (3.32 Mac) and imported my EPS graph. It worked perfectly. However, when I sent a compressed file (.sit) of all my files, my publisher opened the X-Press file and there was a problem with the EPS graphs coming from Finale. It seems like there's a font problem. Instead of the notes, we see W. The staff is there but not the notes. Do you know why it does that ? I tried importing the EPS graphs on Photoshop or Illustrator and it worked fine but on a distant computer using X-Press, the EPS graphs don't show up properly. Thanks for your help, Vincent Cordel Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Westminster Chime _OT
On Sunday, Jan 5, 2003, at 19:06 US/Pacific, D. Keneth Fowler wrote: Having played weddings for more than 40 years, I played this celebrated chime sequence who knows how many times. Today someone asked me what the pitch sequence was for this familiar item. The caller had just acquired an old grandfather's clock and felt something was amiss when it chimed the partial hours and hours. I have been off the organ bench for six years now. I think I remember the proper sequence, but I would not stake my life on it. Not sure if this is what you mean because I'm a pianist, but I've always played flayed octaves (in C): E, C, D, G G, D, E, C and sometimes (just for fun), low Cs to finish. But I just did a quick search on google and the sound byte I heard was in F. Anyone live near the source? Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Moving from Windows to Mac
On Sunday, Jan 5, 2003, at 09:34 US/Pacific, Stig Christensen wrote: I consider moving my last serious program I run on my PC: Finale to Mac. A friend that already has done so told me that the only problem he had encountered was the limited use of shortcuts in Mac. I suggested QuicKeys as a very good alternative, but he had tried this app. but never got used to it. Any comments from the list would be nice before I dump my old WinPC! Greetings Stig, For future consideration: as of 10.2.3, it is possible to install some Apple supplied system extras which permit the scripting of even non-scriptable applications (like Finale). Once it has passed through this late beta stage, I expect that it will be included directly in OS X 10.2.4 and later. The reaction on the AppleScript list has been more than positive. In combination with OS X shortcut key utilities such as the freeware Youpi Key or Keyboard Maestro (free portions + $upgrade for more combos), these features will kind of obsolete QuicKeys (or at least bring down the price). This bodes very well for plugins IMO, because all their menu items and dialogs will immediately be scriptable (and able to be bound to a user designated hot-key). Not knocking QK at all BTW, it is the king of system patching on the old MacOS and still an excellent product (though less capable) in its OS X incarnation. Best wishes, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Help with Windows 98
Thanks to Dennis Collins, Richard Yates, Cecil Rigby, Phil Shaw, Burt Fenner, Klass de Jong, and Peter Taylor for replies to my query. The problem has been solved. Since I only use my Windows emulator to check plugins, I was unfamiliar with the networking and mail particulars. The real problem was a missing alias to the msimn.exe file in the Outlook folder but from the other info received, I was able to get a grip on the basic organization and this enabled me to avert an unwanted login box. Best wishes for 2K3, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Help with Windows 98
Greetings folks, I'm in deep doo-doo. I'm visiting my sister who has a W98 setup and uses Outlook Express for her emailer. While I've manged to alter some configuration settings much to her liking, I've also managed to delete some shortcut that was located in the startup folder which auto-logged on to her server. I can't remember the name of the item that was removed. And she can't remember her password. Can anyone suggest the name or file type of the orginal file so that I can put the shortcut back in place? The location is: C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp TIA, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Help with Windows 98
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, d. collins wrote: }Philip Aker écrit: }to her server. I can't remember the name of the item that was removed. And }she can't remember her password. Can anyone suggest the name or file type }of the orginal file so that I can put the shortcut back in place? }Did you look around in the trash bin? Dennis, Unfortunately I brought along my habit of trashing everything completely. I actually should have moved the items to a temporary folder but the deed is done now. But thanks anyway, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Playback questions
On Saturday, Dec 21, 2002, at 02:55 US/Pacific, David H. Bailey wrote: Of course, that really does beg the question, why would the programmers of Finale think that anybody would NOT want the tempo tool changes to be played? After all, anything done with the tempo tool doesn't show up in the score in any way, serving no graphic purpose at all, they are only there for playback, so why would anybody ever think that playback-only-things would NOT be desired to be heard? It's so that one can have different playback renditions of a score. For instance, if you import a Midi file and preserve the tempo dilations, you can proceed to do a rendering with expressions that approximates the original feel by markings (almost like a takedown). By enabling and disabling Tempo Tool changes, you can output which ever turns out better for playback yet still have a nice looking print job. I would think the more logical way for the thing to work (I know, computer programming and logic don't always exist in the same room at the same time) would be to assume that all tempo tool changes SHOULD be played unless somebody followed the indicated process about the non-printing expression which would then be set for playback options of DON'T play tempo tool changes. Maybe. Thing is, one can transcribe into an existing score and perhaps not wish to have the current setup messed with. I wouldn't care one way or t'other as long as I could change it. Merry Christmas to all! Best to you and yours David and thanks for your many contributions to this list, Sincerely, Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
