Re: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered
On 23.01.2004 6:14 Uhr, RockyRoad wrote Not able to create EPS files is a real annoyance. Is this true!? Is it only temporary? Making EPS's is the main thing I do. I was assuming that I was soon to be getting rid of OS9 It has been announced that EPS capabilities will be added back in the maintenance release along with OS 9 compatibility. Well that's good to know. As long as the feature hasn't been dropped. -- David Stonestreet ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered
Not able to create EPS files is a real annoyance. Is this true!? Is it only temporary? Making EPS's is the main thing I do. I was assuming that I was soon to be getting rid of OS9 -- RockyRoad - David Stonestreet ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fin 2002 to 2004 - was their a deal?
Now that it is close to Mac Finale coming out, could someone refresh my memory - did MakeMusic do a one of special where Fin 2002 owners were grouped with Fin 2003 owners and offered the same cheaper upgrade price? Thanks. -- RockyRoad - David Stonestreet ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac: OS X 10.3
Title: Re: [Finale] Mac: OS X 10.3 On 25.10.2003 23:10 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 10:44 AM, Philip Aker wrote: I've just installed OS X Panther. Gee, I'm impressed. I can't wait. I actually *have* it already, but it won't install on my Beige G3, so I'm anxiously awaiting the new Panther-compatible release of XPostFacto. So am I for my Wallstreet. Anyone heard of incompatibility reports yet? Seems there are some problems with existing applications. Working great on my Pismo G3 500 (and a Tibook). My Apps all seem to be working though I haven't tested everyone yet. Its mainly the haxies that need updating (LabelsX, Window Shade, SIlk, etc). The best App improvement is using Preview for reading PDF's. I wont be booting Adobe Reader again. And Exposé is to die for. Haven't checked out the new font management but it looks great. This $5 eBook is a good help for successfully upgrading: Take Control of Upgrading to Panther, by Joe Kissell http://www.tidbits.com/takecontrol/ -- David Stonestreet - RockyRoad ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Hope there is a Finale Free 2004 for OSX
That free version is a great way to get my students introduced to Finale. Three bought the full version this year after starting on Free. I hope there will be one that runs in OSX. RockyRoad -- David Stonestreet ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Hope there is a Finale Free 2004 for OSX
David Stonestreet wrote: That free version is a great way to get my students introduced to Finale. Three bought the full version this year after starting on Free. I hope there will be one that runs in OSX. Agreed. Upon telling the computer guy at the school at which I teach about the new Finale copy-protection system, he said, well why don't we just go to Sibelius then?, i.e. something that runs OS X straight away, and which already has the similar challenge-response system. Finale Notepad is the reason why not! It's great being able to get all the students to put it on their laptops, from senior students right down to primary-school kids. Yes Finale free is the key. It gets them all started. Just enough features to be worth using, and enough limitations to leave you wanting more - a good balance. I have continued to push Finale at my school, but I seem to have all against me. The local music store (Engadine Music Education Centre), which has a very high profile in Sydney Music Ed circles, waxes on and on about Sibelius in all their publications, even though they sell both. I'm sure the tech guy there is pushing people towards Sibelius and not Finale (as well as PC's and not Macs). My own students are coming to me saying that they had been told or had heard off someone that Finale used to be good but there are much better alternatives around now. Even yesterday a Yr10 student told me that he has uni friends who told him that Sibelius has overtaken Finale. Have you noticed the colour brochures for Sibelius Suite? Its about 6 different programs now, including Auralia and Musition. A complete package. Matthew what do you teach at the school? Are you a composer in residence or something? I didn't envisage you as a classroom teacher, though maybe I'm wrong! RockyRoad -- David Stonestreet, Music Co-ordinator Acting Co-Deputy Sutherland Shire Christian School Barden Ridge, NSW, Australia ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notating Mallet Percussion
Thanks everyone. RockyRoad -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Notating Mallet Percussion
I am writing for a Marimba which goes down to A (the instrument, not the piece). Is Marimba notated in the treble clef on a single stave? Which A on the stage is the bottom note on the Marimba? Thanks. PS: What about the Xylophone? Is its lowest C a middle C? -- David S. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] GOTTA HAVE FINALE MAC OSX
Sorry, the tension and excitement are building too much for me! I'm having trouble counting the days down. RockyRoad -- ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OS X and MIDI
To those of you using OS X: Is MIDI implementation still a problem with this OS? I have been reluctant to move to OS X because of concerns about MIDI. If you have a USB MIDI interface you will find the way much smoother. RockyRoad -- ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review
Right. People who get college degrees get higher-paying jobs and can afford more. By the time those people are higher paying jobs they will no longer be eligible for academic pricing. Its only while at college. I doubt a company would base its academic pricing on your potential future earnings. Besides, by the time they are in the workforce, they will be at the point of upgrading Finale, not buying it. And upgrading costs the same for all. RockyRoad -- ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] What is screen rotation?
Robert, do you run out of menu space when the top of the screen is smaller? Some programs are using quite a lot of menus these days, especially with 3rd party items on the right hand side. -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Hope there is a Finale Free 2004 for OSX
That free version is a great way to get my students introduced to Finale. Three bought the full version this year after starting on Free. I hope there will be one that runs in OSX. RockyRoad -- David Stonestreet ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Hope there is a Finale Free 2004 for OSX
David Stonestreet wrote: That free version is a great way to get my students introduced to Finale. Three bought the full version this year after starting on Free. I hope there will be one that runs in OSX. Agreed. Upon telling the computer guy at the school at which I teach about the new Finale copy-protection system, he said, well why don't we just go to Sibelius then?, i.e. something that runs OS X straight away, and which already has the similar challenge-response system. Finale Notepad is the reason why not! It's great being able to get all the students to put it on their laptops, from senior students right down to primary-school kids. Yes Finale free is the key. It gets them all started. Just enough features to be worth using, and enough limitations to leave you wanting more - a good balance. I have continued to push Finale at my school, but I seem to have all against me. The local music store (Engadine Music Education Centre), which has a very high profile in Sydney Music Ed circles, waxes on and on about Sibelius in all their publications, even though they sell both. I'm sure the tech guy there is pushing people towards Sibelius and not Finale (as well as PC's and not Macs). My own students are coming to me saying that they had been told or had heard off someone that Finale used to be good but there are much better alternatives around now. Even yesterday a Yr10 student told me that he has uni friends who told him that Sibelius has overtaken Finale. Have you noticed the colour brochures for Sibelius Suite? Its about 6 different programs now, including Auralia and Musition. A complete package. Matthew what do you teach at the school? Are you a composer in residence or something? I didn't envisage you as a classroom teacher, though maybe I'm wrong! RockyRoad -- David Stonestreet, Music Co-ordinator Acting Co-Deputy Sutherland Shire Christian School Barden Ridge, NSW, Australia ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Re: Hope there is a Finale Free 2004 for OSX
I understand why the Make Music folk are reintroducing copy protection after an experience yesterday. One of my students at the local Conservatorium was given a Finale 2003 CD by a high school teacher to take home and copy. I wonder how much of this goes on? He doesn't seem to know how to use it, but! copy protection doesn't matter David. Cracked versions get around it and aren't hard to find. There is a high school in my area where the music Head is dishing out cracked version of all the major stuff (Sibelius, Cubase, Reason, etc.) He basically sets his student's computers up with everything. I think you can even bring your CPU in to the school for the treatment! I have seriously thought of taking him down. After all, his students are being ranked against mine in the HSC with an illegal advantage. RockyRoad. -- ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Screen Rotation (was [Finale] Dead OS9)
The lack of screen rotation is actually the rich, meaty, heart of my beef with OSX. And it brings this message squarely back on-topic. Simply put, if you are a Finale user and you've never used screen rotation, it's like you've never had sex. The first time I looked at an orchestra score in screen rotation, it was near orgasmic. When I've shown it to other experienced Finale users, the catch in their breath is palpable. But you don't only need to be doing orchestra scores. I now won't do *any* page layout without it. With LCD monitors priced as they are now, screen rotation is available to more and more people. Much as I despise Micro$loth, if OSX does not have a screen rotation solution by the time I need my next computer, my next computer will be Wintel. Does this really matter on a 21 monitor running 1600x1200? -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Screen Rotation (was [Finale] Dead OS9)
RockyRoad wrote: Does this really matter on a 21 monitor running 1600x1200? It is precisely on monitors of this size where screen rotation really begins to kick in for Finale users. (FWIW, what gave me the rush was rotating a 24 LCD panel that is 1920x1200.) The reason is that you have enough horizontal resolution in portrait mode not to feel particularly constrained, and the 1600 (or higher) vertical dimension has to be experienced with a music score for its Finale power to be fully understood. Actually, I think the big payoffs begin with 1280x1024. If you have a 1280x1024 or larger screen (even a CRT) running Windows, you can get an idea what it's like by downloading the free Pivot Pro demo from portraitdisplays.com. With minimal effort you can rest a CRT on its side for a demo. (It may play havoc with the colors to rest it on its side, but it recovers when you set it back upright.) Look, I don't suggest you would always work with a monitor like this in portrait mode. Many programs (e.g., Protools) are much better in landscape. But Finale, esp. for orch. scores or any page layout, is a dream with a hi-res monitor in portrait. Both Pivot Pro (Win) and MacPortrait (OS9) allow you to switch as needed with a single keystroke. The tech tips on my website include a faq on how you can set up virtually any LCD panel, even ones from Apple, for screen rotation on demand. Fair enough. I always liked those Radius A4 displays back in the old days. Rotating a 24 LCD 90° would be fab for playing old vertical scrollers like Galaga and Galaxions! -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic
At 11:04 PM 8/9/03 +1000, RockyRoad wrote: PS: The system is acceptable to me. I am a veteran of dongles (Logic), keydisks (Soundiver) and other arcane systems. Of course the potential demise of MakeMusic is a concern but the greater issue their would be whether the last Finale would continue to run on my continuously updated Macs. There may be something in what you just wrote. This is just a guess, but is there a general split between Mac- and PC-heritage users on this issue? Have Mac users have become accustomed to copy protection over the years, while PC users have been acculturated away from it? Its possible. Maybe the smaller Mac market makes programmers more concerned to prevent casual piracy. Many of the more expensive audio plugins (VST/RTAS/AU) have challenge-response protection or worse. As do various soft-synths. I don't know if the protection is for both platforms. -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fin2004 Copy Protection
I noticed it has changed. Has it gone to a Challenge-Response system? -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: The Panic Room
If it makes anyone feel any better, there is a much worse copy protection scheme out there than Finale 2004's challenge-response scheme, and, believe it or not, even worse than Sibelius'. Try upgrading Logic versions from emagic. Firstly there is a brand-new dongle that has to be plugged into the USB port (yeah, like that's really reliable). Secondly, there is also a challenge-response system by which you have to fill in your details on an EXACT piece of paper, in an EXACT envelope, with your EXACT original CD and original old dongle to be sent to your distributor, at your own expense, who then forwards it by mail to Germany. Eventually they email your return code back (mine took about 9 weeks). Yes. I prayed every night that my dongle would make it there safely. To make it even worse, in order to upgrade from, say, Logic 4 to Logic 6, you also have to pay the full expensive upgrade fee to Logic 5, even though you didn't get to use it, it all adds up to a giant I'd prefer to use a cracked version disaster. I think there's a circle in Hell for the paranoid programmers who conceived this rubbish, and I sincerely hope that Makemusic doesn't decide to follow their lead. And after all the hoops emagic makes you jump through - they won't give us an electronic copy of the manual because it might encourage piracy of the software!! -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic
Q. Does Finale 2004 have copy protection? A. No. It does, however, require software registration within 30 days of installation. Failure to do so will temporarily disable printing and saving until you do register. You may also install Finale on two machines (on the same platform ñ an additional platform disc is $50) for your personal use under one serial number at no additional charge. Q. Does finale have some in built protection to prevent the unauthorized duplication of full use copies of the program, beyond the limit of two? I would say the answer is yes. Isn't that copy protection? ie. protection against [unauthorized] copying? My installation of Native Instrument's Reaktor software uses challenge-response protection - they call it copy protection as far as I know. PS: The system is acceptable to me. I am a veteran of dongles (Logic), keydisks (Soundiver) and other arcane systems. Of course the potential demise of MakeMusic is a concern but the greater issue their would be whether the last Finale would continue to run on my continuously updated Macs. Allowing two copies (eg: one for laptop) is good practice, and I hope it becomes more widespread. 30 days demo is reasonable. -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Automatic Word Extensions!
Title: Automatic Word Extensions! AUTOMATIC Word Extensions Word extensions actually flow into the score automatically and also wrap to the next staff system. If the music expands or contracts, the extensions stretch or shrink to fit. Easier to enter. Easier to edit. Yeehah I last had this in 1989 in Music publisher. Nice to have it back. -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth.
RE: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic
Sibelius apparently manages the transfer of licenses from one machine to another via floppies, which strikes me as not such a great idea. (What do Mac users do?) I would say that finally, after 20 years of IBM PC compatible floppies, we have a successor to the floppy which fits into ALL personal computers sold for a few years now: the USB stick where 128MB is an often-sold capacity. Should be great to use that for license transfering. Not sure if Sibelius supports it, but I will put in my word for it at MakeMusic. Cheers, Tobias What about a humble ethernet cable? Sneaker net should be dead by now. -- David Stonestreet ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: The Panic Room
I wonder- am I the only one thinking that a dongle is not something one talks about in mixed company? But I strongly suspect that it's actually something 'computerish' that I have never heard of! What the hell is a dongle?? Cheers, Keith in OZ Its a little hardware box that you attach to a USB port. It contains code to tell the software that you are the rightful owner and that it may proceed to boot up. Logic uses its own one. Some companies use a universal one called iLok -- David Stonestreet ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Songs for intervals Star Wars
Title: Re: [Finale] OT: Songs for intervals Star Wars Are we all talking about the same piece The opening two notes of the main Star Wars theme are a fifth apart: (in C and 4/4 time) - C Minim (half note) rising to G minim (hafl note) then descending F E D triplet quavers (quarter notes) rising to high C minim then down to G crotchet. All the best, Lawrence Soh, Soh, Soh, Do That's a 4th. The next interval is a 5th though. -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth.
Re: [Finale] OT: Songs for intervals
That's a good topic for the SMT or CMS Teaching Music Theory lists. What are these lists? Are they good? -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Songs for intervals
Here are some alternatives I learned: M2: Do a deer m3: O Canada M3: Michael Row Your Boat Ashore P4: Amazing Grace, Here Comes the Bride P5: Main Theme to Star Wars isnt that a 4th? M7: Maria (from West Side Story) The opening Maria is a tritone (Aug 4th) -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Songs for intervals
Title: Re: [Finale] OT: Songs for intervals For major 7th I usually use Bali Hai (from South Pacific) - which goes up the octave then down a semi-tone - not ideal but is better than nothing. Hmm. yes. Actually two other pieces that do that (Up an octave and back one) are Immigrant Song by Led Zepplin and the Maxwell Smart theme. For the minor 6th I use Go Down Moses - (the bit that goes When Israel was in Egypt's land). Fantastic. Though I bet my students will remember it better as When Cameron was in Egypt's Land! :-) -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth.
Re: [Finale] OT: Songs for intervals
M7: Maria P4: Here Comes the Bride George Ports You're the second person who has said M7 for Maria. Getting me worried. I'd swear it was a tritone. Is there a later part of the song that uses a M7? -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] amplifier
The amp for my home stereo is dying, and I thought I'd tap the wisdom of the list before getting a replacement. The old amp is an integrated model (preamp built in) w. 40 watts power that is more than enough to drive the 6 speakers scattered around my house. I'm leaning toward a TEAC A-H500, available from Brandnamez.com for $300. Any better ideas? Should I stick with an integrated amplifier, or can I get a better deal with a preamp + regular amp? ___ NAD C320BEE. Nice 50W integrated amp. My friend got one and I'm looking at one for the studio now that my 40W Marantz has died. ... David Stonestreet Chuck Israels also recommended NAD to me, and indeed their products look tasty. Unfortunately however none of them feature a phono preamp, and I have a turntable to run. Any other ideas? NAD make their own decent one to go with their amps. Its called the NAD PP1. Probably about US$70-80. PP1: http://nadelectronics.com/hifi_amplifiers/pp1_framset.htm You can get cheaper ones though, if your not a raving audiophile! Phono preamps built into integrated amps are getting rare. They are even starting to build them into turntables to compensate. C320BEE: http://nadelectronics.com/hifi_amplifiers/C320BEE_framset.htm -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] amplifier
The amp for my home stereo is dying, and I thought I'd tap the wisdom of the list before getting a replacement. The old amp is an integrated model (preamp built in) w. 40 watts power that is more than enough to drive the 6 speakers scattered around my house. I'm leaning toward a TEAC A-H500, available from Brandnamez.com for $300. Any better ideas? Should I stick with an integrated amplifier, or can I get a better deal with a preamp + regular amp? ___ NAD C320BEE. Nice 50W integrated amp. My friend got one and I'm looking at one for the studio now that my 40W Marantz has died. Australian RRP is AUD$599 so should be in your price range. http://nadelectronics.com/hifi_amplifiers/C320BEE_framset.htm I don't know how you get one amp to drive 6 speakers though. Must seriously change the impedance rating. -- David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
