Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610
Laser cartridges last for a very long time, so you could purchase one or two or three and not worry about them being bad when you finally need to install them. The cartridge availability may not be a problem -- the replacement printer from Ricoh may well use the same cartridge. Quite often the normal economics of the marketplace force prices on existing models to fall to a point where it is no longer profitable for a manufacturer to make and distribute them. In that case they take that model off the market and offer a replacement model at a price where there is a lot of profit again. And then that model's price drops and the cycle begins again. But it often isn't because of poor quality or anything so they may well keep the same basic printer engine design and change paper handling or appearance or something, so my advice (before panicing about availability of cartridges) is to find which toner cartridge the replacement printer uses and if it will be interchangeable with yours. I've never tried refilling my own laser cartridges, but my wife did buy one of the refills from a national refill company and it wasn't very good. Not nearly as good quality toner and not as well working a cartridge, so she went back to purchasing original cartridges. Her printer would be 10 years old, but there are still cartridges available for it. She did replace it because of other problems developing with it, but if it had kept on working she would still be able to get cartridges for it. So I wouldn't panic yet about replacement cartridges. David H. Bailey Raymond Horton wrote: As I mentioned a few weeks back, I just bought one a few weeks ago and am very happy with it. But what do I do now that it is discontinued? I have never owned a laser printer before, so I have no experience with replacing toner cartridges. How soon should I be concerned about not being able to get these? I wonder how long a while is? If I bought a few/several toner cartidges for stock, how long would they store succesfully? Has anyone had any luck refilling these? I use a very low volume, compared to, well, just about anybody, really. Thanks in advance for any advice. Ray Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Nick Carter said: I've been trying to sign up as a reseller of the AP2610 but I just spoke with Ricoh and it is officially discontinued. Apparently the toner cartridges will be available for a while. I could pursue adding those to our range but I just heard that our wholesaler wants a $100 deposit to re-open our account which is only refundable if we spend $5,000 in the first 90 days!! ...25 toner cartridges anyone?! Nearest replacement for the 2610 seems to be the AP600N which is around $1K. Nick Dr Nick Carter, Owner, npc Imaging, 2228 Magowan Drive, Santa Rosa, CA 95405 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel/fax: +1 (707) 573 9361 http://www.npcimaging.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale . -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610
On 30.01.2004 4:06 Uhr, Raymond Horton wrote I have never owned a laser printer before, so I have no experience with replacing toner cartridges. How soon should I be concerned about not being able to get these? I wonder how long a while is? If I bought a few/several toner cartidges for stock, how long would they store succesfully? Has anyone had any luck refilling these? I use a very low volume, compared to, well, just about anybody, really. I have a Dataproducts LZR 2080, an Apple Laserwriter Pro 810 clone (or vice versa) which was discontinued more than a decade ago. I can still get Toner cartridges for it. I wouldn't be too worried. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610
At 03:19 AM 1/30/2004, David H. Bailey wrote: I've never tried refilling my own laser cartridges, but my wife did buy one of the refills from a national refill company and it wasn't very good. Not nearly as good quality toner and not as well working a cartridge, so she went back to purchasing original cartridges. I had good success refilling HP cartridges using toner from http://tonerrefillkits.com/ But there are two big caveats here: 1) HP is such a big market that the technology is well known. Tonerrefillkits isn't interested in supplying toner for off brands. There are important parameters with particle size and polarity that need to match OEM specs. 2) I was able to refill my HP cartridges about 3 times before print quality became poor. However, the HP cartridges contain a minuscule amount of toner. The Ricoh cartridges comes with loads of toner, so the other pieces might wear out soon after the first refill. Has anybody found a good supplier of replacement cartridges at a good price? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 Discontinued?
It was discontinued once before. It made a comeback due to its popularity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Adams Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 Discontinued? Just my luck. I'm set to buy a new printer, and had decided on this one, only to find out it's been discontinued. Does anyone out there know of a comparably priced tabloid (11x17) printer? It was priced in the high $500's. Seems like a great deal. This gives new meaning to the phrase strike while the iron's hot. Cheers, Glenn Adams ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610
As I mentioned a few weeks back, I just bought one a few weeks ago and am very happy with it. But what do I do now that it is discontinued? I have never owned a laser printer before, so I have no experience with replacing toner cartridges. How soon should I be concerned about not being able to get these? I wonder how long a while is? If I bought a few/several toner cartidges for stock, how long would they store succesfully? Has anyone had any luck refilling these? I use a very low volume, compared to, well, just about anybody, really. Thanks in advance for any advice. Ray Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Nick Carter said: I've been trying to sign up as a reseller of the AP2610 but I just spoke with Ricoh and it is officially discontinued. Apparently the toner cartridges will be available for a while. I could pursue adding those to our range but I just heard that our wholesaler wants a $100 deposit to re-open our account which is only refundable if we spend $5,000 in the first 90 days!! ...25 toner cartridges anyone?! Nearest replacement for the 2610 seems to be the AP600N which is around $1K. Nick Dr Nick Carter, Owner, npc Imaging, 2228 Magowan Drive, Santa Rosa, CA 95405 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel/fax: +1 (707) 573 9361 http://www.npcimaging.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 Discontinued?
Since (IIRC) Ricoh is manufactured in Europe, given the current unfavorable exchange rate, one wonders if it is manufacture, or import to the US that has caused the discontinuance. If manufacture has been discontinued, it may be that there is a replacement in the works, though this would not be the first time that a product was discontinued because it was taking too many sales away that the seller thought would otherwise have gone for higher priced products. ns Fisher, Allen wrote: It was discontinued once before. It made a comeback due to its popularity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Adams Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 Discontinued? Just my luck. I'm set to buy a new printer, and had decided on this one, only to find out it's been discontinued. Does anyone out there know of a comparably priced tabloid (11x17) printer? It was priced in the high $500's. Seems like a great deal. This gives new meaning to the phrase strike while the iron's hot. Cheers, Glenn Adams ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 Discontinued?
On 29 Jan 2004, at 10:15 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Since (IIRC) Ricoh is manufactured in Europe, I thought Ricoh was Japanese.? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 question
We have Ricoh Aficio 3200 and 1035p units, both of which will handle up to 12x18, and duplex the large paper as well. I don't know how the options were purchased, but I can tell you that it all works just fine. Tim On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: My HP laser printer just decided to cash in its chips after a long, productive life. The Ricoh seems like a very good option for replacing that printer. I have a couple of questions for anybody who has taken the plunge. I see that the printer can handle a variety of paper sizes including 11x17. What isn't clear is whether or not I have to order special trays for each paper size. If I order the standard unit, does it handle both 8.5x11 and 11x17 right out of the box? Has anybody purchased the duplexing unit? Any idea what that costs and how well it works? Thanks, Craig ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 question
At 09:46 PM 9/12/2003 -0400, Tim Thompson wrote: We have Ricoh Aficio 3200 and 1035p units, both of which will handle up to 12x18, and duplex the large paper as well. I don't know how the options were purchased, but I can tell you that it all works just fine. For anybody who is interested, there is an AP2610 product brochure at http://www.ricoh-usa.com//productshowroom/printers/AP2610/ap2610.pdf This is an amazing deal, it seems to me. I have been using an HP 6P. That was a good unit, but I drove it into the ground because it isn't designed to hold up to large volumes. During parts of the year I use it like a printing press and it finally died. A new HP printer of that class is over $500 and that is still 8-5x11 maximum and light duty construction. For an extra $75, you get 26 pages a minute (letter size), heavy duty design (150,000 pages a month), and 11x17. From the brochure, I think the answers to my questions are: 1) Do you need special paper cassettes for different paper sizes? No. It looks like the built in tray (and the optional high capacity feeders) are adjustable. The only cassette accessory they mention is an attachment that will convert one of the add-on high-capacity paper drawers to hold envelopes. I do envelopes, by I can use the bypass feeder for that. 2) Duplex capabilities. This is a separately purchased add-on that hangs off the back of the unit. I haven't found a price yet. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610
On 13.08.2003 23:58 Uhr, Fisher, Allen wrote I recently asked if anyone had one of these printers. (to recap, it's a 1200 dpi PS3 laser that does large format paper for $600) I went ahead and took the plunge and bought it. It seems pretty well contsructed, is USB 2.0 and the prints I've pulled from it so far are spectacular and it's FAST. It seems like A LOT of bang for the buck, and it has Mac drivers (didn't look like OSX drivers though--could be available from the web) If it is a postscript printer the same printer description file should work for OS X as well, shouldn't it? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610
I bought one of these also, and I am delighted with it. I printed a 41 page 11 x 17 score (single sided) in three minutes. I also got the duplexer. It works but at the moment I only have 24lb. paper and it tends to wrinkle. I am assuming that 32 lb. paper will not wrinkle. It can also handle 18 x 12 paper for 9 x 12 parts, but I haven't tested this because I don't have any 18 x 12 paper yet. Windows xp fin2k3a. BF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fisher, Allen Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:59 PM To: Finale List Subject: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 Hi All... I recently asked if anyone had one of these printers. (to recap, it's a 1200 dpi PS3 laser that does large format paper for $600) I went ahead and took the plunge and bought it. It seems pretty well contsructed, is USB 2.0 and the prints I've pulled from it so far are spectacular and it's FAST. It seems like A LOT of bang for the buck, and it has Mac drivers (didn't look like OSX drivers though--could be available from the web) After I finish my current project. I'll post more about it. Back to lurking... Allen J. Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is a series of dogs --George Carlin ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610
Our university just got rid of all of our HP and Xerox printers and got Ricoh printers and multi-function units. They work great, they are very fast, and they support PS using the Adobe driver. There is an OS X package that can be downloaded from the website. Right now our print servers are being reconfigured, so I haven't done anything but use LPR (IP) printing, but when we first installed them and I sent a PS Finale file from OS 9, the results were really very nice. Tim On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, at 07:48 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 13.08.2003 23:58 Uhr, Fisher, Allen wrote I recently asked if anyone had one of these printers. (to recap, it's a 1200 dpi PS3 laser that does large format paper for $600) I went ahead and took the plunge and bought it. It seems pretty well contsructed, is USB 2.0 and the prints I've pulled from it so far are spectacular and it's FAST. It seems like A LOT of bang for the buck, and it has Mac drivers (didn't look like OSX drivers though--could be available from the web) If it is a postscript printer the same printer description file should work for OS X as well, shouldn't it? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610
Johannes, I think so, but the instructions in the manual that came with it describe OS9. I plan on borrowing a mac laptop soon, I'll see what happens with it... Allen -Original Message- From: Johannes Gebauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:49 PM To: Finale list Subject: Re: [Finale] Ricoh AP2610 On 13.08.2003 23:58 Uhr, Fisher, Allen wrote I recently asked if anyone had one of these printers. (to recap, it's a 1200 dpi PS3 laser that does large format paper for $600) I went ahead and took the plunge and bought it. It seems pretty well contsructed, is USB 2.0 and the prints I've pulled from it so far are spectacular and it's FAST. It seems like A LOT of bang for the buck, and it has Mac drivers (didn't look like OSX drivers though--could be available from the web) If it is a postscript printer the same printer description file should work for OS X as well, shouldn't it? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
