RE: [Finale] Re: The Panic Room

2003-08-14 Thread David McKay
Ah, Keith. You must be one of the few who didn't use Atari then Emagic
Notator and had to put a dongle on the serial port [or was it joystick port
... hm Joysticks and dongles!]

I was always terrified it might go bung or I might lose it or something. My
wife used to tell people I had a $1000 dongle.
David McKay
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Re: [Finale] Re: The Panic Room (are we talking about money?)

2003-08-14 Thread Javier Ruiz
Queridos amigos,

Are we talking about money here? Because my new contract for a copying job
is a 6.000 $ one :)

With that I could afford to buy a 3 months-long license of Finale and will
not worry about the future of the company. I reasonably could pay again the
fee for the TGTools, and also buy the Robertson plug-ins.

Come on boys! This is simply a license for a program that will be updated on
another year. And at 89,95 $ or 139, 95 $ the upgrade price is not going to
hurt your pocket too much.

I guess it is different for composers, but for a copyist Finale 2004 is a
must.

Let me add:

Shake, the compositing and editing video program , is just 3,995 $
Final Cut is 999$
Mathematica is 2,500 $

The subscription for the software of the Ircam Forum was (is) 400$ a year!
Swallow that!

Did you know that you could rent software for the 15,000$ high end reverb
System 6000 by TC Electronics?


Just my thughts before leaving for a table-tennis Sunday match...

Javier Ruiz

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Re: [Finale] Re: The Panic Room

2003-08-10 Thread David H. Bailey
It's a device which plugs into a specific port (parallel, serial, 
joystick, whatever) and must be attached to your computer because the 
software that it came with will try to find it on your system.  If it 
isn't attached, or for some reason it isn't working, the software simply 
will not run.

Some dongles have had pass-through ports on them so you could also use 
whatever device you usually have attached to that port, but some others 
were dead-ends so when you wanted to use that program you had to detach 
your normal device from that port and put the dongle on.

And for any ports other than USB ports you would have to reboot your 
computer since handshakes with those ports and any devices attached only 
happens when the computer boots.

With USB ports so ubiquitous these days, I am surprised that USB dongles 
haven't become more prevalent.  Especially since it is so easy to add 
another USB port if you already have yours all in use -- the computer I 
built last year came with 6 ports built-in!  And USB devices can be 
attached and removed without having to reboot the computer.



helgesen wrote:

I wonder- am I the only one thinking that a dongle is not something one
talks about in mixed company? But I strongly suspect that it's actually
something 'computerish' that I have never heard of!
What the hell is a dongle??
Cheers, Keith in OZ


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If it makes anyone feel any better, there is a much worse copy protection
scheme out there than Finale 2004's challenge-response scheme, and,
believe

it or not, even worse than Sibelius'.

Try upgrading Logic versions from emagic.  Firstly there is a brand-new
dongle that has to be plugged into the USB port (yeah, like that's really
reliable).  Secondly, there is also a challenge-response system by which
you

have to fill in your details on an EXACT piece of paper, in an EXACT
envelope, with your EXACT original CD and original old dongle to be sent
to

your distributor, at your own expense, who then forwards it by mail to
Germany.  Eventually they email your return code back (mine took about 9
weeks).
Yes. I prayed every night that my dongle would make it there safely.



To make it even worse, in order to upgrade from, say, Logic 4 to Logic 6,
you also have to pay the full expensive upgrade fee to Logic 5, even
though

you didn't get to use it, it all adds up to a giant I'd prefer to use a
cracked version disaster.  I think there's a circle in Hell for the
paranoid programmers who conceived this rubbish, and I sincerely hope
that

Makemusic doesn't decide to follow their lead.
And after all the hoops emagic makes you jump through - they won't
give us an electronic copy of the manual because it might encourage
piracy of the software!!
--

David Stonestreet - Coming to you from Sydney Australia.
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Re: [Finale] Re: The Panic Room

2003-08-10 Thread RockyRoad
I wonder- am I the only one thinking that a dongle is not something one
talks about in mixed company? But I strongly suspect that it's actually
something 'computerish' that I have never heard of!
What the hell is a dongle??
Cheers, Keith in OZ
Its a little hardware box that you attach to a USB port. It contains 
code to tell the software that you are the rightful owner and that it 
may proceed to boot up.

Logic uses its own one. Some companies use a universal one called iLok

--

David Stonestreet
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