Re: [Fink-beginners] Replace XFree86 with Apple's X11

2004-12-20 Thread Martin Costabel
Roger Butland wrote:
[]
3) As I did not use fink to install XFree86, how will dpkg know which 
files to remove ?  
It will not. Self-installed X11 packages are not managed by fink, you 
have to do this yourself.

You first have to determine which Fink xfree86 packages you have 
installed according to fink (fink list -i xfree).

If all is well, you should only see
system-xfree86
system-xfree86-dev
system-xfree86-shlibs
which are in fact virtual packages that show up automatically when fink 
detects a valid X11 installation. You don't install or remove them yourself.

The procedure for replacing your xfree86 installation by Apple's X11 is 
very simple. You don't need a complete backup (well, a backup is always 
a good thing, so I don't want to discourage you from making one, but it 
is really not a big deal), you just move the old installation out of the way

  sudo mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6_xfree
  sudo mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11_xfree
At this point, fink list -i xfree should not show anything at all any 
more. Then you install Apple's two X11 packages (X11User and X11SDK). 
That's it. fink list -i xfree should now show you the 3 system-xfree* 
packages again and you are ready to go.

If you want to clean up completely, you can remove the directories that 
you moved out of the way plus the /Applications/XDarwin.app bundle, but 
this is not necessary. By renaming the /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 
directories (most easily done using symbolic links), you can even switch 
back and forth between the old and new installations.

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[Fink-beginners] Failed: installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed

2004-12-20 Thread Heinz Nabielek
Can somebody provide help with  installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed?

I have everything of the latest and the newest and unstable.
Only my Titanium Powerbook G4 500 MHz is already 3.77 years old.

Heinz

_
/usr/bin/install -d -m 755
/sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions
/bin/mv 
/sw/src/root-kdeedu3-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_add*
/sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/
mv: rename 
/sw/src/root-kdeedu3-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_add*
to 
/sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_add*:
No such file or directory
### execution of /bin/mv failed, exit code 1
Failed: installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed




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Re: [Fink-beginners] Replace XFree86 with Apple's X11

2004-12-20 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Dec 19, 2004, at 9:18 PM, Roger Butland wrote:
I want to replace XFree86 with Apple's X11 and I think I can use the 
dpkg -r --force-depends ... command.However, before I do this I 
would like to back-up my disk on to the Secondary HD using perhaps 
Carbon Copy Cloner.

The binary version of XFree86 was successfully installed on Mac OS-X  
10.3.6 (now 10.3.7) using sh Xinstall.sh.

Then you can't use dpkg -r.  dpkg only knows about package that it 
installed (i.e anything installed by Fink, but nothing else).  You'll 
need to do it manually, cf.:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#switching-x11
under where it says:  If, on the other hand, you have an X11 version 
that was not installed via Fink

Questions:
1)Will there be a problem at start up if I have two bootable HD's ?
No
2)   I do not want to sync the HD's until I am satisfied that the 
Apple's X11 is working correctly.How can I ensure that the dpkg 
-r --force-depends ...   command will only affect the files on my 
Macintosh HD and not the Secondary HD ?
If you were removing a Fink-installed XFree86 you'd be safe because 
dpkg has a database of every file that was installed via Fink.  It 
removes only those files that were installed in /sw (assuming a default 
setup), and if you mirror one HD to another, the backup directory would 
be /Volumes/Disk2/sw (or whatever you called the second one).  
However...

3) As I did not use fink to install XFree86, how will dpkg know which 
files to remove ?   Is there another command that I should use to 
determine the dependances or can I use dpkg at a Terminal Window 
without any additional commands ?
They aren't in its database, so it won't remove anything.
4) I don't think that I will have installed the threaded version of 
XFree86 so I am thinking of applying the dpkg -r --force-depends to 
xfree86-base, xfree86-base-shlibs, xfree86-rootless and 
xfree-rootless-shlibs.However, why is system-xfree86 sometimes 
removed and should I ?

The instructions say to remove old-style system-xfree86 packages 
because they prevent the new virtual package built in to current 
versions of fink from working.

Thanks in advance
Roger

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed

2004-12-20 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Dec 20, 2004, at 7:20 AM, Heinz Nabielek wrote:
Can somebody provide help with  installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed?
I have everything of the latest and the newest and unstable.
Only my Titanium Powerbook G4 500 MHz is already 3.77 years old.
Heinz
_
/usr/bin/install -d -m 755
/sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions
/bin/mv
/sw/src/root-kdeedu3-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/ 
edit_add*
/sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/
mv: rename
/sw/src/root-kdeedu3-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/ 
edit_add*
to
/sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/ 
edit_add*:
No such file or directory
### execution of /bin/mv failed, exit code 1
Failed: installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed



According to a thread on -users, there's something missing in the  
source.

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[Fink-beginners] Re: Failed: installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed

2004-12-20 Thread Chris
Heinz Nabielek heinznabielek at mac.com writes:

 
 Can somebody provide help with  installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed?
 
 I have everything of the latest and the newest and unstable.
 Only my Titanium Powerbook G4 500 MHz is already 3.77 years old.
 
 Heinz
 
 _
 /usr/bin/install -d -m 755
 /sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions
 /bin/mv 
 /sw/src/root-kdeedu3-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_add*
 /sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/
 mv: rename 
 /sw/src/root-kdeedu3-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_add*
 to 
 /sw/src/root-kiten-3.3.2-21/sw/share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_add*:
 No such file or directory
 ### execution of /bin/mv failed, exit code 1
 Failed: installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed
 
 
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I had the same problem.  Here is a way to get past that error.

Do the following as root.

Backup the appropriate kdeedu3.info file.
Mine was in /sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/kde/.

% cd /sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/kde

%cp kdeedu3.info kdeedu3.info.old

Now edit the kdeedu3.info file.

%open -e kdeedu3.info

Find the lines:

SplitOff6: 
   Package: kiten
 several lines excluded
share/icons/locolor/16x16/actions/edit_add*
share/icons/locolor/16x16/actions/edit_remove*
share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_add*
share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_remove*
  


Delete the lines:

 share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_add*
 share/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/edit_remove*


Now it should look like this.

SplitOff6: 
   Package: kiten
 several lines excluded
share/icons/locolor/16x16/actions/edit_add*
share/icons/locolor/16x16/actions/edit_remove*
  


Save the file.

Now try compiling again.

This worked for me.

I hope this helps,
Chris



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[Fink-beginners] Re: Failed: installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed

2004-12-20 Thread Robert T. Wyatt
At 5:05 PM + 12/20/04, Chris wrote:
Do the following as root.
Backup the appropriate kdeedu3.info file. (lots snipped)
Should I try the same fix on 10.2-gcc3.3?  --robert
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Re: Failed: installing kiten-3.3.2-21 failed

2004-12-20 Thread Benjamin Reed
Chris wrote:
Actually, the package has been updated now, but...
Backup the appropriate kdeedu3.info file.
Mine was in /sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/kde/.
% cd /sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/kde
%cp kdeedu3.info kdeedu3.info.old
Now edit the kdeedu3.info file.
...you should never edit in /sw/fink/*/unstable or stable directly, 
instead copy the file to your local tree and edit there instead.

If you're using CVS you'll get conflicts, and if you're using rsync, 
your changes will get overwritten, when doing selfupdates.  If you want 
to make local changes, always do them in the local area.

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[Fink-beginners] Installing grass

2004-12-20 Thread Frank Schmittroth
Hi,
  I tried to sudo fink install grass with the following error:

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gdal-shlibs:
 gdal-shlibs depends on unixodbc2-shlibs; however:
  Package unixodbc2-shlibs is not installed.
...

I then discovered that there is grass5.7, so I entered:
  sudo fink remove grass
which said there was nothing to uninstall.

Next I entered:
 sudo fink install grass5.7 which resulted in:

dpkg -i
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/database/unixodbc2-shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
Selecting previously deselected package unixodbc2-shlibs. dpkg:
considering removing unixodbc2-nox-shlibs in favour of unixodbc2-shlibs
... dpkg: no, cannot remove unixodbc2-nox-shlibs (--auto-deconfigure will
help):
 unixodbc2-nox depends on unixodbc2-nox-shlibs (= 2.2.6-10)
  unixodbc2-nox-shlibs is to be removed.
dpkg: regarding .../unixodbc2-shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
containing unixodbc2-shlibs:
 unixodbc2-shlibs conflicts with unixodbc2-nox-shlibs
  unixodbc2-nox-shlibs (version 2.2.6-10) is installed.
dpkg: error processing
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/database/unixodbc2-shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
(--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing unixodbc2-shlibs
Errors were encountered while processing:
 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/database/unixodbc2-shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't install package
unixodbc2-shlibs-2.2.6-10

In the past I past I have searched the archives by going (I think) to the
Fink mailling list web page and clicking on Archives in the line  
fink-beginners(Archives, NNTP).  But now I can't seem to get to the
archives.

os x 1.3.7
frank



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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing grass

2004-12-20 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Dec 20, 2004, at 2:22 PM, Frank Schmittroth wrote:
Hi,
  I tried to sudo fink install grass with the following error:
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gdal-shlibs:
 gdal-shlibs depends on unixodbc2-shlibs; however:
  Package unixodbc2-shlibs is not installed.
...
I then discovered that there is grass5.7, so I entered:
  sudo fink remove grass
which said there was nothing to uninstall.
That's because you didn't install grass--you partially installed  
gdal-shlibs, and that's where things stopped.

Next I entered:
 sudo fink install grass5.7 which resulted in:
dpkg -i
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/database/unixodbc2- 
shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
Selecting previously deselected package unixodbc2-shlibs. dpkg:
considering removing unixodbc2-nox-shlibs in favour of unixodbc2-shlibs
... dpkg: no, cannot remove unixodbc2-nox-shlibs (--auto-deconfigure  
will
help):
 unixodbc2-nox depends on unixodbc2-nox-shlibs (= 2.2.6-10)
  unixodbc2-nox-shlibs is to be removed.
dpkg: regarding .../unixodbc2-shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
containing unixodbc2-shlibs:
 unixodbc2-shlibs conflicts with unixodbc2-nox-shlibs
  unixodbc2-nox-shlibs (version 2.2.6-10) is installed.
dpkg: error processing
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/database/unixodbc2- 
shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
(--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing unixodbc2-shlibs
Errors were encountered while processing:
  
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/database/unixodbc2- 
shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't install package
unixodbc2-shlibs-2.2.6-10

Hmm...it looks like you need to get rid of unixodbc2-nox.  You might  
try just removing that by itself.

In the past I past I have searched the archives by going (I think) to  
the
Fink mailling list web page and clicking on Archives in the line
fink-beginners(Archives, NNTP).  But now I can't seem to get to the
archives.

Works here--I get the GMANE archive.
os x 1.3.7
frank

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[Fink-beginners] Re: Installing grass

2004-12-20 Thread Frank Schmittroth
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:47:49 -0500, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

  /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/database/unixodbc2-
 shlibs_2.2.6-10_darwin-powerpc.deb
 ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't install package
 unixodbc2-shlibs-2.2.6-10


 Hmm...it looks like you need to get rid of unixodbc2-nox.  You might try
 just removing that by itself.

Thanks Alexander.  That seems to work so far (still compiling). Did also
have to remove unixodbx2-nox.shlibs as well.

Frank



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[Fink-beginners] kdepim3-3.3.2-11 failed

2004-12-20 Thread Robert T Wyatt
On 10.2-gcc3.3 kdepim3 failed to compile. Knowing that this may not be 
enough output, I have posted the complete output here:
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~bentones/development/ (this particular file 
is: 20041220kdepim3.txt)

ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol 
KProtocolInfo::isHelperProtocol(QString const)
/sw/lib/libkdecore.dylib(single module) definition of 
KProtocolInfo::isHelperProtocol(QString const)
/sw/lib/libkio.dylib(single module) definition of 
KProtocolInfo::isHelperProtocol(QString const)
ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _mkstemp
/sw/lib/libkdecore.dylib(single module) definition of _mkstemp
/usr/lib/libpthread.dylib(mktemp.So) definition of _mkstemp
/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed
make[2]: *** [libkolabwizard.la] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
NAME-3.3.2-11 make-build failed!
### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.1.qxbRsa failed, exit code 1
Failed: compiling kdepim3-3.3.2-11 failed
Mon Dec 20 04:43:03 CST 2004


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[Fink-beginners] kdetoys3-3.3.2-11 successful

2004-12-20 Thread Robert T Wyatt
kdetoys3 3.3.2-11 successfully compiled on 10.2-gcc3.3
output is available:
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~bentones/development/20041220kdetoys3.txt
There was a lot of this stuff at the end but I'm not sure if it's 
unusual:

Setting up kdetoys3 (3.3.2-11) ...
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
kbuildsycoca: Recreating ksycoca file (/sw/share/services/ksycoca, 
version 75)
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Property 'X-KDE-Weight' is defined multiple 
times (KOfficeFilter)
kbuildsycoca: VFolderMenu::mergeFile: 
/sw/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-essential.menu
kbuildsycoca: VFolderMenu::mergeFile: 
/sw/etc/xdg/menus/kde-settings.menu
kbuildsycoca: VFolderMenu::mergeFile: 
/sw/etc/xdg/menus/kde-information.menu
kbuildsycoca: Directory and kde-information.directory requires 
combining!
kbuildsycoca: VFolderMenu::mergeFile: 
/sw/etc/xdg/menus/kde-screensavers.menu
kbuildsycoca: Directory and kde-system-screensavers.directory requires 
combining!
kbuildsycoca: Menu applications-kmenuedit.menu not found.
kbuildsycoca: VFolderMenu::mergeFile:
kbuildsycoca: Processing KDE Legacy dirs for KDE
kbuildsycoca: processKDELegacyDirs()
kbuildsycoca: Looking up applications under /sw/share/applications/
kbuildsycoca: Looking up applications under /sw/share/applications/kde/
kbuildsycoca: Moving Settings/Information to Information
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kfile_ooo.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'application/vnd.sun.xml.writer.global'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kfile_ooo.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'application/vnd.sun.xml.writer.math'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Edutainment/Languages/kvoctrain.desktop' 
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-kvtml'

 i   kdetoys3 3.3.2-11
 i   kdetoys3-base3.3.2-11

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Re: [Fink-beginners] kdetoys3-3.3.2-11 successful

2004-12-20 Thread Benjamin Reed
Robert T Wyatt wrote:
kdetoys3 3.3.2-11 successfully compiled on 10.2-gcc3.3
output is available:
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~bentones/development/20041220kdetoys3.txt
There was a lot of this stuff at the end but I'm not sure if it's unusual:
it's harmless, doing it at install time speeds up startup just a little bit.
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[Fink-beginners] Re: Replace XFree86 with Apple's X11

2004-12-20 Thread Roger Butland
Thanks to Martin and Alexander for their comments.
The fink list -i xfree lists only the three system-xfree86 files as 
expected but Fink Commander list them as not installed.

There are other folders on my computer which may be connected to the 
XFree86 XDarwin installation:
	/~/Library/Darwin-X11
	/~/Library/Darwin-ppc-7
	/private/etc/X11where ~ is my home directory
	/usr/include/X11
	/~/Library/Preferences/org.xfree.XDarwin.plist
Presumably I should not delete or move these ?(I may have run 
X11SKD.pkg at an earlier time)

What is the difference between using symbolic links and the mv move 
command ?

Fink cannot find make so should I install Apple's Xcode Tools using 
Apple's Developer.mpkg or can Fink do this ?

Also, I cannot find Apple's X11 User package although X11SKD.pkg is 
under the Xcode Tools/Packages folder.Where can I find Apple's X11 
User ?

After reading Fink's documentation I am not sure if I can install X11 
User using Fink ?

Roger


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Re: Replace XFree86 with Apple's X11

2004-12-20 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Dec 20, 2004, at 10:26 PM, Roger Butland wrote:
Thanks to Martin and Alexander for their comments.
The fink list -i xfree lists only the three system-xfree86 files as 
expected but Fink Commander list them as not installed.

OK--they aren't normal packages so this is fine.
There are other folders on my computer which may be connected to the 
XFree86 XDarwin installation:
	/~/Library/Darwin-X11
	/~/Library/Darwin-ppc-7
	/private/etc/X11where ~ is my home directory
	/usr/include/X11
	/~/Library/Preferences/org.xfree.XDarwin.plist
Presumably I should not delete or move these ?(I may have run 
X11SKD.pkg at an earlier time)

You can leave them.
What is the difference between using symbolic links and the mv move 
command ?

Basically you'd have something like the following:
/usr/X11R6.Apple
/usr/X11R6.XFree86
/etc/X11.Apple
/etc/X11.XFree86
These would be real directories, which you would create via mv (e.g. 
sudo mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6.Apple for Apple's X11).

You'd then make symbolic links
/usr/X11R6
/etc/X11
that point to either the Apple or XFree86 version.
Or you could physically copy or move the directories--the symbolic link 
method is nice because it helps prevent accidental deletions.

Fink cannot find make so should I install Apple's Xcode Tools using 
Apple's Developer.mpkg or can Fink do this ?

Yes.
Also, I cannot find Apple's X11 User package although X11SKD.pkg is 
under the Xcode Tools/Packages folder.Where can I find Apple's X11 
User ?

On disk 3 of your OS 10.3 CDs
After reading Fink's documentation I am not sure if I can install X11 
User using Fink ?

It comes with the OS, so you're supposed to take care of that yourself.
Roger
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Alexander K. Hansen
Fink Documentarian
Day Job:  Levitated Dipole Experiment
http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX

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