Re: [Fink-beginners] dselect: requested operation requires super user privilege

2005-01-19 Thread Martin Costabel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
dselect: requested operation requires super user privilege
You need to run dselect as root:
  sudo dselect
--
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Re: [Fink-beginners] iBook X11 issue: XCode ok, Xfree86 compiles, won't LAUNCH.

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Jan 18, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Eric Lecht wrote:
OK, Alexander, YOU are the man today. It worked. I owe you lunch. A 
BIG one.
Seriously, today I wanted to be floored, and I in fact am floored.

THANKS  for taking the trouble to intuit where I was in the process,
and likely what had gone awry.
I was missing the Binary-Update description part of the process.
Somewhere on the Fink update page, elaborating on the Dist-upgrade
process, either i MISSED the Update descriptions line or something,
but if one simply does 'Dist-upgrade packages' you get all SORTS of
errors. Once I did the 'Update descriptions'' part, the Dist-upgrade
packages part just sort of worked. Figured i'd share that.
Also: w/ as old a version as mine, a weird anomaly manifested itself
toward the end, where FinkCommander's dialogue queries the user as to
mirror site preferences, getting more granular about it as it
proceeds. The interaction window didn't come up;  the program
*appeared* to hang. it hadn't, it was waiting for input. I started
poking around, FOUND the 'Tools-interact with Fink' selection and I
was OK. I had to do that like a dozen times. it was a gotcha that
would likely hang a more panicky user.  I'll file that away for when I
upgrade my son's Powebook when I visit him late Jan.
Yeah, that's a little annoyance with Fink Commander:  some requests for 
interaction don't seem to get popped forward for attention immediately.

Last, impressions of the new XDarwin, and how at least Gimp now runs:
It takes about 24 seconds to load rootless X on my iBook 1.33Ghz/32MB
video/768MB ram laptop. The older X11 on the Powerbook G4/1Ghz/64MB
video/768 ram loaded a LOT faster. I'm not grousing, merely sharing my
experience.
This is 4.3.99, right?  I think 4.4 (which isn't in the binary 
distribution as of yet) is a bit faster.

X loaded, and came up with 3 terminal windows, 1 big one to the left,
and 2 smaller (one above the other) to the right.
I chose the larger, switched to /sw, cd bin, ./gimp
Here's where things get a bit odd; Gimp loads. Gimp splash appears.
Nothing else appears till I *click on the term window* i'm loading
Gimp from (I experimented...after waiting and waiting).
I do a File-open. Again, nothing appears till I *click on the term
window*. Open dialogue appears. I browse and choose a file, click OK.
You guess it --you have to click on the term window for the image to
appear in a Gimp window.
Not sure what's up with that. Figured i'd pass it on. Haven't done
anything else yet. Hey --it WORKS. FinkCommander is now at v.
h..0.5.2
Wasn't that the same version as earlier? Again, no complaints here.
But i wanted to at least share w/ the Fink Beginners my experience,
while it was fresh in my head, hope it may help others
That's it --again, many, many thanks. What a powerful program. What a
colossal amount of work must've gone into this. Considering the myriad
possibilities of configurations and versions, it's fairly elegant as
well. A little intimidating for newbies out there (and we are all
newbies somewhere); such is life.
regards,
Eric Lecht
These last issues sound like they may be specific to the built in 
XFree86 window manager (twm).  You can install a different window 
manager --quite a few are available via Fink.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink - scribus - ghostscript problem

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Jan 18, 2005, at 5:00 PM, modeler wrote:
And this may well do it.  I've had ESP ghostscript installed at the
same time as Fink's, and the program that I was using found the ESP
version (under /usr/local) rather than Fink's.
Try running type -a gs (assuming you're using bash as your shell).
It should tell you where all of the instances of gs in your PATH are.
Thanks for quick turnaround, Alexander. There is but a single instance 
of gs. There are six more files with the same mod date 24 Aug 00:54, 
all beginning with the two letters gs, all seven in /sw/bin.

I take it from your response that there might have been more than one 
set, and deletion of the wrong one would solve the problem.

Since I have but one, I suppose it is the ESP (wrong) version.
(1) Is it OK  appropriate to delete those seven gs files?
(2) How best to download and install the good ghostscript?
Thanks
wk
I believe you've already gotten an answer that's more applicable to 
your situation (PATH issues?)  but as a general note, it's extremely 
bad practice ever to delete files manually from within /sw.  You can 
find out which package installed a file by running:

dpkg -S filename
e.g. dpkg -S fink will return all instances of fink in your Fink 
tree.


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing xchat-ssl

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander K . Hansen
On Jan 17, 2005, at 8:41 PM, Sheila King wrote:
OK, first of all, thank you for your help so far.
But I guess I am just stupid or I'm missing something simple...
--On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:53 AM +0100 Martin Costabel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sheila King wrote:
[]
Last login: Mon Jan 17 15:06:53 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
iMac:~ sheilaking$ which xchat
/sw/bin/xchat
iMac:~ sheilaking$ xchat
(xchat:503): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
You need to set the DISPLAY environment variable.
OK, I know what environment variables are. I understand why it may be 
necessary to set the DISPLAY variable to get xchat to run properly 
(or, I suppose, any program depending on the Xwindowing system?)

If you are using
Apple's X11,
I don't have any specific preference on whether to use Apple's X11 or 
to use the one installed by Fink (I assume it installed one? Or at 
least I tried to...

Let's see...
... OK, back. I looked through my directories, and I don't really see 
where it's installed. Although I used FinkCommander last night and 
_asked_ FinkCommander to install it for me. And if I open up 
FinkCommander and sort on the Installed column, it shows several 
files there that have xfree86 in the name of the file.

But as I said above, either Apple's X11 or one installed along with 
Fink...either is fine by me. I suppose I'd prefer whichever one 
looks/works best, or really, whichever on I can get to work.


you can do this and even start X11 if necessary by running
   open-x11 xchat
I tried that, but here are the results (not good):
iMac:~ sheilaking$ open-x11 xchat
-bash: open-x11: command not found

On the Fink web site there is some documentation about running X11
applications that you might wanat to read.
I assume you mean this page:
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/run-xfree86.php?phpLang=en
I've looked it over, but still not sure what I need to get from that.
I did not have a .xinitrc file in my home directory, so I copied the 
default on into there...

cp /private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc
That file is quite extensive (the system default one).
I then tried sourcing the init.sh file by adding the following line 
to the file ~/.xinitrc right below the first commented line:

. /sw/bin/init.sh
This doesn't seem to be helping, though. Do I need to reboot the 
entire computer after this? I would think not...
I completely quit the terminal program and then started a new terminal 
session, and tried

open-x11 xchat
but you see the results I pasted above.
Still confused...
Sheila King
http://www.thinkspot.net/sheila/

If you don't have 'open-x11' then you probably have the Fink xfree86 
and xfree86-shlibs packages.  In that case you need to start it, e.g. 
via the XDarwin OS X application (under /Applications).  Pick 
rootless, and if you haven't modified the default setup when you made 
your .xinitrc file, then you should get 3 windows.  You can run xchat 
from one of those.

Alternatively, you can run
setenv DISPLAY :0
xchat
from an OS X terminal window after XFree86 is running.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] dselect: requested operation requires super user privilege

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander K . Hansen
On Jan 18, 2005, at 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am using fink version 0.7.0  and Mac OS X version 10.3.3
I have been using fink for the a few months.  Today I typed dselect to 
install some packages.  When I selected  Install from the menu, I got 
the following message:

dselect: requested operation requires super user privilege
I am using my own Mac and this did not happen last time I went to 
install a package (which was a couple months ago).
Any suggestions of what I might need to do to fix this so I can 
install something?

Thank you for your help and time!
Katherine
sudo dselect
Then enter your admin password.
(fink install automatically invokes sudo to do its thing--you may 
well have used that.)

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[Fink-beginners] (no subject)

2005-01-19 Thread Robert T Wyatt
With 10.2-gcc3.3 using the stable trees, I am having some difficulty 
getting KDE to work. Gnome works, but gives me the warnings below, 
which I hope will help diagnose what might be wrong with my system. I 
have included the contents of .xinitrc also. It's possible that I 
simply haven't used the right commands in my .xinitrc and that is why 
KDEinit fails on startup. Please let me know what other information 
may be useful in diagnosing this. I use bash, by the way.

Thanks much,
Robert
bash-2.05b$ startx
2005-01-19 09:51:05.354 XDarwin[24450] CFLog (0): 
CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): Old-style plist parser: missing 
semicolon in dictionary.
2005-01-19 09:51:05.475 XDarwin[24450] CFLog (0): 
CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): The file name for this data might 
be (or it might not): file://localhost/usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central
2005-01-19 09:51:11.487 XDarwin[24450]
XDarwin 1.2b4

XFree86 Version 4.3.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 27 February 2003
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your hardware is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Darwin Apple Computer, Inc.
Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping.
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
Loading GLX bundle glxMesa.bundle (using Mesa)
Display mode: Full screen Quartz
Screen 0 added: 1280x1024 @ (0,0)
cat: /Users/rgrtw/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
SESSION_MANAGER=local/reg134.reg.utexas.edu:/tmp/.ICE-unix/24452
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
using device Built-in audio controller for output:
with sample rate 44100.00, 2 channels and 32-bit sample
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find 
handler containing data (0x9325E0)

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GtkToggleButton'
Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtktogglebutton.c: line 283 
(gtk_toggle_button_set_active): assertion `toggle_button != NULL' 
failed.

waiting for X server to shut down Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 
broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x140003e unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x140003d unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x140003c unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x140003a unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x1400039 unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x1400038 unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x1400037 unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x1400036 unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x1400034 unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x1400033 unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x1400032 unexpectedly destroyed
Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
Quitting XDarwin...
..
bash-2.05b$ sudo pico ~/.xinitrc
Password:
   UW PICO(tm) 2.5 
File: /Users/rgrtw/.xinitrc

. /sw/bin/init.sh
exec gnome-session
#export KDEWM=kwin
#quartz-wm --only-proxy 
#/sw/bin/startkde /tmp/kde.log 21

[ Read 6 lines ]
bash-2.05b$ fink --version; sw_vers
Package manager version: 0.23.3
Distribution version: 0.6.3.rsync
Copyright (c) 2001 Christoph Pfisterer
Copyright (c) 2001-2004 The Fink Package Manager Team
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
GNU General Public License for more details.
ProductName:Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.2.8
BuildVersion:   6R73
bash-2.05b$
[note to self: this is at-work]
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[Fink-beginners] KDE sound

2005-01-19 Thread Brian O'Keefe
On Thursday 13 January 2005 17:02, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
 On Jan 13, 2005, at 6:46 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:

 snip`

  However, starting esound does not seem to help the lack of sound with
  kde. I checked the sound settings and there are no red flags and I
  have sound with gnome. Any more ideas?
 
  thanks

 Make sure the sound device is set for enlightened sound daemon in the
 Control Center-Sound  Multimedia-Hardware

I'll try again here. I don't seem to have the  enlightened sound daemon 
option as I did w/ KDE3.2. All I have is a drop down option with auto 
detect the only option. Any ideas?
Thanks
Brian


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[Fink-beginners] Installation of tree failed: Can't resolve dependency gcc3.1 for package tree-1.4b2-1

2005-01-19 Thread Heinz Nabielek
Installation of tree failed: Can't resolve dependency gcc3.1 for package
tree-1.4b2-1

What can I do here?

Heinz
_

iMacG5:~/Sites heinz$ fink list tree
Information about 2007 packages read in 1 seconds.
 pstree 2.17-1
Shows the ps listing as a tree
 tree   1.4b2-1
Recursive directory listing program
iMacG5:~/Sites heinz$ fink install tree
Password:
Information about 2007 packages read in 1 seconds.
Failed: Can't resolve dependency gcc3.1 for package tree-1.4b2-1 (no
matching packages/versions found)
iMacG5:~/Sites heinz$ which gcc
/usr/bin/gcc
iMacG5:~/Sites heinz$ /usr/bin/gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1671)




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[Fink-beginners] Re: KDE sound

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Jan 19, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
On Thursday 13 January 2005 17:02, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
On Jan 13, 2005, at 6:46 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
snip`
However, starting esound does not seem to help the lack of sound 
with
kde. I checked the sound settings and there are no red flags and I
have sound with gnome. Any more ideas?
thanks
Make sure the sound device is set for enlightened sound daemon in 
the
Control Center-Sound  Multimedia-Hardware
I'll try again here. I don't seem to have the  enlightened sound 
daemon
option as I did w/ KDE3.2. All I have is a drop down option with auto
detect the only option. Any ideas?
Thanks
Brian

Do you happen to have esound-bin installed?
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installation of tree failed: Can't resolve dependency gcc3.1 for package tree-1.4b2-1

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Heinz Nabielek wrote:
Installation of tree failed: Can't resolve dependency gcc3.1 for 
package
http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-general.php#gcc2
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[Fink-beginners] xpdf problem (fink mixed up?)

2005-01-19 Thread Victor Eijkhout
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink list | grep xpdf
 i  xpdf3.00-12 Viewer for Portable Document Format (PDF) files
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% rehash
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% which xpdf
xpdf: Command not found.
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink remove xpdf
Information about 4408 packages read in 2 seconds.
dpkg --remove xpdf
(Reading database ... 55945 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing xpdf ...
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink list | grep xpdf
xpdf3.00-12 Viewer for Portable Document Format (PDF) files
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink install xpdf
Information about 4408 packages read in 2 seconds.
The following package will be installed or updated:
 xpdf
dpkg -i 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/text/xpdf_3.00-12_darwin-powerpc.deb
Selecting previously deselected package xpdf.
(Reading database ... 55927 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking xpdf (from .../xpdf_3.00-12_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Setting up xpdf (3.00-12) ...

[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% rehash
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% which xpdf
xpdf: Command not found.
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% ls /sw/bin/xp*
/sw/bin/xpmroot*/sw/bin/xpmroot2*   /sw/bin/xpmtoppm*
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink list | grep xpdf
 i  xpdf3.00-12 Viewer for Portable Document Format (PDF) files
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %%
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %%
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Re: [Fink-beginners] xpdf problem (fink mixed up?)

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Jan 19, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Victor Eijkhout wrote:
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink list | grep xpdf
 i  xpdf3.00-12 Viewer for Portable Document Format (PDF) files
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% rehash
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% which xpdf
xpdf: Command not found.
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink remove xpdf
Information about 4408 packages read in 2 seconds.
dpkg --remove xpdf
(Reading database ... 55945 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing xpdf ...
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink list | grep xpdf
xpdf3.00-12 Viewer for Portable Document Format (PDF) files
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink install xpdf
Information about 4408 packages read in 2 seconds.
The following package will be installed or updated:
 xpdf
dpkg -i  
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/text/xpdf_3.00 
-12_darwin-powerpc.deb
Selecting previously deselected package xpdf.
(Reading database ... 55927 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking xpdf (from .../xpdf_3.00-12_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Setting up xpdf (3.00-12) ...

[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% rehash
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% which xpdf
xpdf: Command not found.
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% ls /sw/bin/xp*
/sw/bin/xpmroot*/sw/bin/xpmroot2*   /sw/bin/xpmtoppm*
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %% fink list | grep xpdf
 i  xpdf3.00-12 Viewer for Portable Document Format (PDF) files
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %%
[~/Projects/supernova/presentations] %%
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Knoxville TN 37996.
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http://www.cs.utk.edu/~eijkhout/


This was reported on -users.  The issue is that this version of xpdf  
doesn't seem to find the freetype2 headers in XFree86 or X.org, and  
therefore doesn't build the xpdf executable.

The maintainer was contacted and there was some discussion, but no fix  
has been posted.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing xchat-ssl

2005-01-19 Thread Sheila King
Hello again...
--On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:58 AM +0100 Martin Costabel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sheila King wrote:
[]
OK, fine. that worked. As as Alexander Hansen said, it started 3
Xwindows.
You can control this with your .xinitrc script. You want to start a
reasonable window manager.
That's what I figured. When I set up Gentoo Linux about 6 months back I 
recall selecting a windows manager and adding that to the end of my 
.xinitrc file.

Fink has a whole collection of them. Or you
can try OroborOSX. They have very different levels of ugliness. The
image from the xchat web site uses Apple's X11 and Apple's quartz-wm
window manager.
Finally get the whole Apple Xwindows version thing.
Went here and here
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/
and got Apple's X11 and installed that. Helps some...

I did try his command for setting the Display environment, but it gave
an error message as follows:
iMac:~ sheilaking$ setenv DISPLAY :0
bash: setenv: command not found

2. Set the DISPLAY environment variable in the shell from which you are
starting xchat:
   export DISPLAY=:0

Tried the export DISPLAY:=0 instead, and that appeared to work.
These are shell dialect differences between tcsh (setenv) and bash
(export).
OK. I have more of a bash background. Could swear I've used setenv in bash 
before, but export works for me too.

At this point I'm somewhat thinking of trying out DarwinPorts.
The Fink repository has no mail servers that show up in the FinkCommander 
for download/installation, even if I select unstable option. However, 
DarwinPorts has mail servers in their repository (such as postfix...)

Is running both Fink and DarwinPorts possible? Not advised? ... ???
Thanks again for the assistance,
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing xchat-ssl

2005-01-19 Thread Martin Costabel
Sheila King wrote:
[]
The Fink repository has no mail servers that show up in the 
FinkCommander for download/installation, even if I select unstable 
option. However, DarwinPorts has mail servers in their repository (such 
as postfix...)
Fink has a postfix package in the net section. But I hope you know 
that Mac OSX 10.3 comes with postfix already?

Is running both Fink and DarwinPorts possible? Not advised? ... ???
In principle, you can install both, but if you want to compile things 
from source, you will probably run into problems unless you hide one of 
the two.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing xchat-ssl

2005-01-19 Thread Sheila King
--On Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:02 AM +0100 Martin Costabel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sheila King wrote:
[]
The Fink repository has no mail servers that show up in the
FinkCommander for download/installation, even if I select unstable
option. However, DarwinPorts has mail servers in their repository (such
as postfix...)
Fink has a postfix package in the net section. But I hope you know
that Mac OSX 10.3 comes with postfix already?
Sheesh. No. I certainly did not know that. In fact, when I went to the 
Apple store, they gave me the geekiest guy in the store to talk to about 
servers and Linux and so on, and I mentioned mail server and he said nada 
about it.

And I've searched all over Google on Mac OS X mailserver and the most 
obviously useful looking results were Fink and DarwinPorts.
I sure don't want to re-install something that is already installed.


Is running both Fink and DarwinPorts possible? Not advised? ... ???
In principle, you can install both, but if you want to compile things
from source, you will probably run into problems unless you hide one of
the two.
K, thanks. For the time being, I guess I will just sit tight with Fink. At 
least it provides an option for a GUI interface (FinkCommander) and is sort 
of Gentoo-ish in that you just click install and it goes out and gets the 
stuff for you and does its thing. Reviewing DarwinPorts, looks like I 
would have to do everything CLI (not surprising), but I'm the sort to do 
something stupid and make it enormously difficult on myself when in 
principle it should be as simple as just copying their examples.

Thanks for the tip on postfix...saved me an enormous amount of wasted time 
there...

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink - scribus - ghostscript problem

2005-01-19 Thread modeler
Martin wrote:
 Most likely this is a PATH problem, caused by the way how you start
 scribus. If you use /sw/bin/scribus, replace it by source 
 /sw/bin/init.sh ; scribus. See also Fink FAQ#8.4. You can also write 
 the complete path to gs in the scribus preferences, menu
 Settings-Preferences-External Tools, but this should not be
 necessary of your PATH environment variable is set correctly before
 starting scribus.

That did it, Martin! 
Many thanks for the advice -- now I have some homework to figure out how come 
I needed that ;-)

modeler


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