Re: [Fink-devel] perl, python, ruby, etc.

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Macks
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:00:03 -0700, David R. Morrison  wrote:
In a discussion on irc this morning, there was a general consensus to 
bring Python 2.6 and 2.7 forward to 10.7, but not to bring Python 2.5 
forward.  I subsequently put the python26 and python27 packages into 
the 10.7 tree. 

 What about perl?  Should we bring perl 5.8.8 forward, or leave it out?

Our recent pattern has been keep starting at whatever the previous cat 
has as systerm-perl, which would mean 10.7 gets 5.10.0. But that was 
at least partly to keep things Just Working when users upgraded to the 
next cat. Now that we're breaking to a new dist, I'm not sure we even 
need to keep 5.10.0. There are a few incompatibilities in the language 
itself, but 5.12 has been out for a long time already so they can 
usually be fixed easily. perl5.8.8? Oh hell no:)

dan

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Re: [Fink-devel] perl, python, ruby, etc.

2011-07-21 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 David == David R Morrison d...@finkproject.org writes:

David What about perl?  Should we bring perl 5.8.8 forward, or leave it
David out?

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2008/11/msg141328.html

5.8.x is EOLed already.  2.5 years ago.

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Re: [Fink-devel] perl, python, ruby, etc.

2011-07-21 Thread David R. Morrison
OK.  I just did a test build of our perl5100 package and it failed, so needs 
work.

So for now, we'll let things be, but if somebody wanted to work on perl 5.10.0 
to bring it forward, they are welcome to do it.

I'll follow the received advice and not bring perl 5.8.8 forward.

  -- Dave

On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Daniel Macks wrote:

 On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:00:03 -0700, David R. Morrison  wrote:
 In a discussion on irc this morning, there was a general consensus to 
 bring Python 2.6 and 2.7 forward to 10.7, but not to bring Python 2.5 
 forward.  I subsequently put the python26 and python27 packages into 
 the 10.7 tree. 
 
 What about perl?  Should we bring perl 5.8.8 forward, or leave it out?
 
 Our recent pattern has been keep starting at whatever the previous cat 
 has as systerm-perl, which would mean 10.7 gets 5.10.0. But that was 
 at least partly to keep things Just Working when users upgraded to the 
 next cat. Now that we're breaking to a new dist, I'm not sure we even 
 need to keep 5.10.0. There are a few incompatibilities in the language 
 itself, but 5.12 has been out for a long time already so they can 
 usually be fixed easily. perl5.8.8? Oh hell no:)
 
 dan
 
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Re: [Fink-devel] perl, python, ruby, etc.

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Macks
Going the other way, we may want to add a perl5.12.3 to 10.[56] to help 
promote keeping the older dist's -pm packages updated as more 
developers switch to 10.7 as their primary target. 

dan

On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:27:36 -0700, David R. Morrison  wrote:
OK.  I just did a test build of our perl5100 package and it failed, so 
needs work. 

 So for now, we'll let things be, but if somebody wanted to work on 
 perl 5.10.0 to bring it forward, they are welcome to do it. 

 I'll follow the received advice and not bring perl 5.8.8 forward. 

   -- Dave

 On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Daniel Macks wrote:

  On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:00:03 -0700, David R. Morrison  wrote:
  In a discussion on irc this morning, there was a general consensus 
 to  bring Python 2.6 and 2.7 forward to 10.7, but not to bring 
 Python 2.5  forward.  I subsequently put the python26 and python27 
 packages into  the 10.7 tree.   What about perl?  Should we 
 bring perl 5.8.8 forward, or leave it out?
   Our recent pattern has been keep starting at whatever the 
 previous cat  has as systerm-perl, which would mean 10.7 gets 
 5.10.0. But that was  at least partly to keep things Just Working 
 when users upgraded to the  next cat. Now that we're breaking to a 
 new dist, I'm not sure we even  need to keep 5.10.0. There are a few 
 incompatibilities in the language  itself, but 5.12 has been out for 
 a long time already so they can  usually be fixed easily. perl5.8.8? 
 Oh hell no:)
   dan
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Re: [Fink-devel] perl, python, ruby, etc.

2011-07-21 Thread Martin Costabel
On 21/07/11 20:27, David R. Morrison wrote:
 OK.  I just did a test build of our perl5100 package and it failed, so needs 
 work.

 So for now, we'll let things be, but if somebody wanted to work on perl 
 5.10.0 to bring it forward, they are welcome to do it.

For what it's worth, Lion has /usr/bin/perl5.10, too.

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