[Fink-users] problem with installing xfig
Hi, when I tried to install xfig using finkcommander (from binary as well as source ) it failed with following phrase: Building Dependency Tree... Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies can any one give me some idea how to get rid of this?? Jagannath - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] problem with installing xfig
On 1/8/07, JAGANNATH MONDAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when I tried to install xfig using finkcommander (from binary as well as source ) it failed with following phrase: Building Dependency Tree... Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies can any one give me some idea how to get rid of this?? Jagannath No, because you didn't give the whole error message that mentioned what packages were causing problems. This is a problem with a solution specific to what is installed on your system. -- Alexander K. Hansen (akh) Fink Documenter (still) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] [Fink-beginners] fink and texlive
On 1/8/07, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/6/07, Alexander Hansen wrote: On 1/6/07, kp.gores wrote: hi, i switched from tetex (installed by gerben wierdas great i-installer) to texlive. unfortunately fink only supports a system-tetex, but not a system-texlive. any help on getting fink to recognize texlive? regards kp Current discussion has been in the direction of eliminating support for non-Fink TeX distros altogether. Hello, sorry for disturbing again. I really don't know that much about Fink itself (I just know that I'm very thankful for it since it really makes life much easier), but I use TeX (ConTeXt) a lot. At the time when the first message arrived I didn't know yet that Gerben announced end of his support (I didn't understand the hint until a few days later). Here are some of my thoughts: - I have no idea for how long Gerben's distribution is still going to be useful, but I'll keep using it unless/until there will be a better alternative - It might be that Gerben's distribution becomes really obsolete one day, so a good and up-to-date alternative, such as texlive/miktex-based TeX in fink might be needed anyway and would be really welcome. - If you intend to drop support for non-fink distributions of TeX, I should have said the current maintainer of system-tetex is thinking about discontinuing support please try to create a texlive-based alternative in fink first. The tetex-based one is so old that it's almost useless to me. (I'm using ConTeXt and I *really* need additions from May/August 2006 for example. The same is true for most ConTeXt users.) Also, I'm not sure if the following page is still relevant: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiitem_id=xetex_fink but I really don't want to follow it's instructions since XeTeX should work out-of-the-box already. Any of our users are free to contribute such things. We have a xetex in the tracker, but it didn't build on a case-sensitive file system, and the submitter was waiting for upstream to fix it. - I have a feeling that some packages simply require too much when they ask for TeX development files. I successfully compiled gnuplot on windows/linux/mac, it only failed with fink since it wanted to have some TeX developer files for some reason that I don't really understand. When I compiled manually, everything went OK and kpathsea developer files were not needed (perhaps I had worse functionality because of that, I don't know, but I never really missed anything). On the other hand, the new version of gnuplot would need pangocairo which fink doesn't support and which is much more serious drawback than not having a kpathsea header file installed. I'll point out that if you use a _Fink_ tetex, then gnuplot works fine. Pangocairo is in the works right now. I have a feeling that the main reason why most packages require TeX is simply because it's used to generate documentation (I might be wrong though) and one doesn't need TeX developer files for that. Any TeX installation (as long as pdflatex works) should do in that case. - In really short term, it would really help if texlive-based Gerben's distribution could be supported as well. Once again, anybody is free to maintain a package to do so. - I don't understand (but I admit that I'm speculating a bit since I don't know what's behind) why fink wants to have some TeX files at hardcoded locations. TeX has kpathsea which was created for exactly that reason - to be able to have files placed at arbitrary locations. Would it be possible to make any use of that? No. FInk's build process requires files to be in one and only one location. Otherwise binaries that are built on one system can fail on another. - If someone decides to create a texlive-based package, I'm volunteering to prepare and maintain a package for ConTeXt (if someone could offer me some help at the very beginning), which is usually updated once or twice per week. That'd be great. Gerben's i-Installer (as well as MikTeX, W32TeX and Debian) takes care of that. I'm also ready to help on some other issues regarding texlive, but I'm not experienced enough to take it over. The situation has just been improved considerably in Debian, MikTeX's developer is working on incorporating new versions of pdfTeX, metapost, XeTeX, ... Also note that luaTeX (pdfTeX's successor) is on its way and will probably be available in the middle of 2007. Having a good recent TeX distribution on Mac is and will be needed and welcome. As long as eliminating support for non-Fink TeX distros altogether doesn't mean users have to use that obsolete tetex distribution from January 2005, I support that. But it has to be done properly and in such a way that users will profit from that. I really don't want such a thing as fink's ancient TeX messing up with some new usable TeX. Thanks, Mojca (I'm really sorry
Re: [Fink-users] [Fink-beginners] fink and texlive
Dear Mojca, Thanks for the update about your concerns. When the Fink project was young, we had a number of system- something packages which allowed Fink to use pieces of software which were installed in other ways. Each of these caused a fair amount of trouble, since Fink is a tightly integrated system and changes in those external pieces of software often had unanticipated consequences for Fink. The system-something packages were designed to test for particular items which not only would be used by Fink, but also would signal whether or not the external package had changed. The only remaining packages of this type are system-tetex and system- ghostview. Attempting to keep these things in sync with Fink has been a big headache for a long time, and I believe that there is no longer a reason to try. (One of the big reasons in the early days had to do with the size of a TeX installation and the argument that one shouldn't have to install TeX twice, but by now that size looks more manageable compared with both current hard disk sizes and other software packages.) However, before making any change I would like to be sure that there aren't any negative impacts on users. Let me try to analyze the situation. First, as you surmise, Fink needs a TeX installation for its own purposes (mainly to create documentation for other packages, but also, obviously, if a user chooses to install Fink's teTeX package for daily use). If we drop system-tetex, then even users who wish to run an external version of TeX will be 'forced' to install Fink's TeX. Second, it is hard to use an external-to-Fink TeX because Fink puts / sw/bin at the head of the PATH. (This is one of the main advantages of the current system-tetex package, which allows an external TeX to serve in place of Fink's TeX.) However, any user can adjust his or her PATH to put /usr/local/bin in front of /sw/bin, which should solve that problem. It's not a great solution, at the moment, because it isn't easy or automatic. But we've discussed making a change in Fink which would let the user, as an option, automatically put the Fink directories at the end of the path instead of at the beginning. Third, your proposal to introduce a fink texlive package as an alternative to tetex is an interesting one. I personally don't have time to do this, but I'm willing to cooperate with a texlive package maintainer (as I already cooperate with the ptex package maintainer -- ptex is the Japanese version of tetex). Let me suggest that you try out the method (suggested above) of combining your external TeXLive installation with fink's tetex, putting /usr/local/bin at the front of your PATH, and let us know how it goes. (The details of how to do this will depend on whether you are using bash, tcsh, or some other shell, but basically you want to edit your .profile or .tcshrc so that *after* the fink /sw/bin/init.(c)sh file is loaded, you adjust the path to put /usr/local/bin first.) -- Dave On Jan 8, 2007, at 6:29 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 1/6/07, Alexander Hansen wrote: On 1/6/07, kp.gores wrote: hi, i switched from tetex (installed by gerben wierdas great i- installer) to texlive. unfortunately fink only supports a system-tetex, but not a system-texlive. any help on getting fink to recognize texlive? regards kp Current discussion has been in the direction of eliminating support for non-Fink TeX distros altogether. Hello, sorry for disturbing again. I really don't know that much about Fink itself (I just know that I'm very thankful for it since it really makes life much easier), but I use TeX (ConTeXt) a lot. At the time when the first message arrived I didn't know yet that Gerben announced end of his support (I didn't understand the hint until a few days later). Here are some of my thoughts: - I have no idea for how long Gerben's distribution is still going to be useful, but I'll keep using it unless/until there will be a better alternative - It might be that Gerben's distribution becomes really obsolete one day, so a good and up-to-date alternative, such as texlive/miktex-based TeX in fink might be needed anyway and would be really welcome. - If you intend to drop support for non-fink distributions of TeX, please try to create a texlive-based alternative in fink first. The tetex-based one is so old that it's almost useless to me. (I'm using ConTeXt and I *really* need additions from May/August 2006 for example. The same is true for most ConTeXt users.) Also, I'm not sure if the following page is still relevant: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php? site_id=nrsiitem_id=xetex_fink but I really don't want to follow it's instructions since XeTeX should work out-of-the-box already. - I have a feeling that some packages simply require too much when they ask for TeX development files. I successfully compiled
Re: [Fink-users] Fwd: installing Fink from source fails with multiple definitions of _eprintf
Hi again, So I'm still having no luck with the source installation of Fink on my server. Here's a few other bits of information: 1) The server is a G5, but it's got a Universal version of OS X Server 10.4.8 installed on it. 2) libstdc++.6.0.4.dylib only contains eprintf on the ppc side: deltag5:~ kocolosk$ nm -arch ppc /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.4.dylib | grep eprintf 90b53648 T ___eprintf 90b786dc S ___eprintf.eh deltag5:~ kocolosk$ nm -arch i386 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.4.dylib | grep eprintf deltag5:~ kocolosk$ 3) There was an old post on the wiki about the use of -force-flat- namespace (without which my errors would just be warnings), and I believe the last time I installed Fink from source on the server in question was before the date of the post: http://wiki.finkproject.org/index.php/Fink:Packaging:breakage/ 2006-03-09/ppc#-force_flat_namespace Anybody know who RR is and how I can get in touch with him/her? I'm really getting stumped here. I can't reproduce this behavior on any other machine, but then again I only have access to one copy of OS X Server. Thanks, Adam - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Fwd: installing Fink from source fails with multiple definitions of _eprintf
On 1/8/07, Adam Kocoloski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, So I'm still having no luck with the source installation of Fink on my server. Here's a few other bits of information: 1) The server is a G5, but it's got a Universal version of OS X Server 10.4.8 installed on it. 2) libstdc++.6.0.4.dylib only contains eprintf on the ppc side: deltag5:~ kocolosk$ nm -arch ppc /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.4.dylib | grep eprintf 90b53648 T ___eprintf 90b786dc S ___eprintf.eh deltag5:~ kocolosk$ nm -arch i386 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.4.dylib | grep eprintf deltag5:~ kocolosk$ 3) There was an old post on the wiki about the use of -force-flat- namespace (without which my errors would just be warnings), and I believe the last time I installed Fink from source on the server in question was before the date of the post: http://wiki.finkproject.org/index.php/Fink:Packaging:breakage/ 2006-03-09/ppc#-force_flat_namespace Anybody know who RR is and how I can get in touch with him/her? I'm really getting stumped here. I can't reproduce this behavior on any other machine, but then again I only have access to one copy of OS X Server. Thanks, Adam that'd be RangerRick. Try rangerrick AT befunk DOT com -- Alexander K. Hansen (akh) Fink Documenter (still) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
