Re: [Fink-users] [fink-core] debfoster missing some necessary fink packages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:45 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: Hi Remi. Chris Z. and I just looked at this again. The property Essential does not even make it into the .deb. We're guessing that your installation is still picking up the info from some old version of the file. Try running apt-get update to see if that makes it go away? (The old info must be cached somehow...) It is in deb http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist 10.4/release main crypto Speaking of that, there is no need for release and current. Just merge the 2, makes it much easier and 4 less lines in the sources file. :) - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Please sign reply-http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkV4BoYACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHAwTQCgyWFRNchbTGAKOmUGR0gqCQs1 2jcAn3HA9Or6v2wgKApvDPEbglh+IEG9 =PxyH -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] [fink-core] debfoster missing some necessary fink packages?
Ah, so maybe the solution is to push binaries of the no-longer- essential packages into the bindist? (In current)? (We *do* use current, for the small handful of packages which get updated or added in between bindist releases.) -- Dave On Dec 7, 2006, at 4:18 AM, Chris Zubrzycki wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:45 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: Hi Remi. Chris Z. and I just looked at this again. The property Essential does not even make it into the .deb. We're guessing that your installation is still picking up the info from some old version of the file. Try running apt-get update to see if that makes it go away? (The old info must be cached somehow...) It is in deb http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist 10.4/release main crypto Speaking of that, there is no need for release and current. Just merge the 2, makes it much easier and 4 less lines in the sources file. :) - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Please sign reply-http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkV4BoYACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHAwTQCgyWFRNchbTGAKOmUGR0gqCQs1 2jcAn3HA9Or6v2wgKApvDPEbglh+IEG9 =PxyH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ fink-core mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-core - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] [fink-core] debfoster missing some necessary fink packages?
Hi, I had to delete the old fink-prebinding deb from apt's archive and run 'apt-cache gencaches' to get rid of the essential flag in apt- cache. Thus, somehow apt sticks to the essential flag when it is present in any deb, not necessarily in the newest one. Remi On Dec 7, 2006, at 8:29 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: Ah, so maybe the solution is to push binaries of the no-longer- essential packages into the bindist? (In current)? (We *do* use current, for the small handful of packages which get updated or added in between bindist releases.) -- Dave On Dec 7, 2006, at 4:18 AM, Chris Zubrzycki wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:45 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: Hi Remi. Chris Z. and I just looked at this again. The property Essential does not even make it into the .deb. We're guessing that your installation is still picking up the info from some old version of the file. Try running apt-get update to see if that makes it go away? (The old info must be cached somehow...) It is in deb http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist 10.4/release main crypto Speaking of that, there is no need for release and current. Just merge the 2, makes it much easier and 4 less lines in the sources file. :) - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Please sign reply-http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkV4BoYACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHAwTQCgyWFRNchbTGAKOmUGR0gqCQs1 2jcAn3HA9Or6v2wgKApvDPEbglh+IEG9 =PxyH -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ fink-core mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-core -- No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. * Remigius K. Mommsen e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Manchester URL:http://cern.ch/mommsen Fermilab, MS 357 voice:++1 (630) 840-8321 P.O. Box 500 fax:++1 (630) 840-2649 Batavia, Il 60510, US home:++1 (630) 236-0932 * - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] [fink-core] debfoster missing some necessary fink packages?
It is true, however, that cctools-extra, fink-prebinding, and ncurses- shlibs used to be Essential: yes (in the 10.4-transitional tree, for example) but are now Essential: no. It's possible that the warning was accurate, because the user had old versions of those packages installed which were indeed tagged as essential. -- Dave On Dec 5, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote: [cc'ing fink-core, as this is the maintainer for apt.] Hi, I finally found some time to look into this issue: On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote: On 11/5/06, Shug Boabby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what happens if I remove these packages from my keepers list, and run debfoster with n for them:- = $sudo debfoster fink-prebinding is keeping the following 1 packages installed: cctools-extra Keep fink-prebinding? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep cctools-extra? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep ncurses-shlibs? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep system-openssl-dev? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: cctools-extra* fink-prebinding* ncurses-shlibs* system-openssl- dev* WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! cctools-extra fink-prebinding ncurses-shlibs 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 2732kB will be freed. You are about to do something potentially harmful To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' ?] = So are you *sure* it's ok to remove these programs? As Martin said, they're all marked as Essential: no, so they're not essential for Fink. debfoster apparently just sees the presence of the Essential field as marking a package as essential, rather than whether the field is set to yes After some testing and reading code, I believe that debfoster is handling the Essential field correctly. However, apt does not. The prompt You are about to do something potentially harmful To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' does come from apt being told by debfoster to remove packages which have Essential: no set. 'apt-cache show fink-prebinding' actually report Essential: yes, while the info file clearly says Essential: no. I haven't found out where apt gets it wrong. Remi -- Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. (Oscar Wilde) * Remigius K. Mommsen e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Manchester URL:http://cern.ch/mommsen Fermilab, MS 357 voice:++1 (630) 840-8321 P.O. Box 500 fax:++1 (630) 840-2649 Batavia, Il 60510, US home:++1 (630) 236-0932 * -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ fink-core mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-core - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] [fink-core] debfoster missing some necessary fink packages?
Hi Dave, I rebuilt the fink-prebinding package yesterday to make sure that I have the latest deb corresponding to the info file. But apt still complains. I believe the pure presence of the word 'Essential' is enough for apt to treat it as essential. Maybe we should remove the Essential: no from the info files? Remi On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:14 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: It is true, however, that cctools-extra, fink-prebinding, and ncurses-shlibs used to be Essential: yes (in the 10.4- transitional tree, for example) but are now Essential: no. It's possible that the warning was accurate, because the user had old versions of those packages installed which were indeed tagged as essential. -- Dave On Dec 5, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote: [cc'ing fink-core, as this is the maintainer for apt.] Hi, I finally found some time to look into this issue: On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote: On 11/5/06, Shug Boabby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what happens if I remove these packages from my keepers list, and run debfoster with n for them:- = $sudo debfoster fink-prebinding is keeping the following 1 packages installed: cctools-extra Keep fink-prebinding? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep cctools-extra? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep ncurses-shlibs? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep system-openssl-dev? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: cctools-extra* fink-prebinding* ncurses-shlibs* system-openssl- dev* WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! cctools-extra fink-prebinding ncurses-shlibs 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 2732kB will be freed. You are about to do something potentially harmful To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' ?] = So are you *sure* it's ok to remove these programs? As Martin said, they're all marked as Essential: no, so they're not essential for Fink. debfoster apparently just sees the presence of the Essential field as marking a package as essential, rather than whether the field is set to yes After some testing and reading code, I believe that debfoster is handling the Essential field correctly. However, apt does not. The prompt You are about to do something potentially harmful To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' does come from apt being told by debfoster to remove packages which have Essential: no set. 'apt-cache show fink-prebinding' actually report Essential: yes, while the info file clearly says Essential: no. I haven't found out where apt gets it wrong. Remi -- Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. (Oscar Wilde) * Remigius K. Mommsen e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Manchester URL:http://cern.ch/mommsen Fermilab, MS 357 voice:++1 (630) 840-8321 P.O. Box 500 fax:++1 (630) 840-2649 Batavia, Il 60510, US home:++1 (630) 236-0932 * - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ fink-core mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-core -- Intelligence is like a four-wheel drive vehicle: it allows you to get stuck in much more remote places. * Remigius K. Mommsen e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Manchester URL:http://cern.ch/mommsen Fermilab, MS 357 voice:++1 (630) 840-8321 P.O. Box 500 fax:++1 (630) 840-2649 Batavia, Il 60510, US home:++1 (630) 236-0932 * - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
Re: [Fink-users] [fink-core] debfoster missing some necessary fink packages?
Hi Remi. Chris Z. and I just looked at this again. The property Essential does not even make it into the .deb. We're guessing that your installation is still picking up the info from some old version of the file. Try running apt-get update to see if that makes it go away? (The old info must be cached somehow...) -- Dave On Dec 6, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Remi Mommsen wrote: Hi Dave, I rebuilt the fink-prebinding package yesterday to make sure that I have the latest deb corresponding to the info file. But apt still complains. I believe the pure presence of the word 'Essential' is enough for apt to treat it as essential. Maybe we should remove the Essential: no from the info files? Remi On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:14 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: It is true, however, that cctools-extra, fink-prebinding, and ncurses-shlibs used to be Essential: yes (in the 10.4- transitional tree, for example) but are now Essential: no. It's possible that the warning was accurate, because the user had old versions of those packages installed which were indeed tagged as essential. -- Dave On Dec 5, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote: [cc'ing fink-core, as this is the maintainer for apt.] Hi, I finally found some time to look into this issue: On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote: On 11/5/06, Shug Boabby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what happens if I remove these packages from my keepers list, and run debfoster with n for them:- = $sudo debfoster fink-prebinding is keeping the following 1 packages installed: cctools-extra Keep fink-prebinding? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep cctools-extra? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep ncurses-shlibs? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Keep system-openssl-dev? [Ynpsiuqx?], [H]elp: N Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: cctools-extra* fink-prebinding* ncurses-shlibs* system- openssl-dev* WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! cctools-extra fink-prebinding ncurses-shlibs 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 2732kB will be freed. You are about to do something potentially harmful To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' ?] = So are you *sure* it's ok to remove these programs? As Martin said, they're all marked as Essential: no, so they're not essential for Fink. debfoster apparently just sees the presence of the Essential field as marking a package as essential, rather than whether the field is set to yes After some testing and reading code, I believe that debfoster is handling the Essential field correctly. However, apt does not. The prompt You are about to do something potentially harmful To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' does come from apt being told by debfoster to remove packages which have Essential: no set. 'apt-cache show fink-prebinding' actually report Essential: yes, while the info file clearly says Essential: no. I haven't found out where apt gets it wrong. Remi -- Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. (Oscar Wilde) * Remigius K. Mommsen e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Manchester URL:http://cern.ch/ mommsen Fermilab, MS 357 voice:++1 (630) 840-8321 P.O. Box 500 fax:++1 (630) 840-2649 Batavia, Il 60510, US home:++1 (630) 236-0932 * - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ fink-core mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-core -- Intelligence is like a four-wheel drive vehicle: it allows you to get stuck in much more remote places. * Remigius K. Mommsen e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Manchester URL:http://cern.ch/mommsen Fermilab, MS 357 voice:++1 (630) 840-8321 P.O. Box 500 fax:++1 (630) 840-2649 Batavia, Il 60510, US home:++1 (630) 236-0932
