Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8
01.12.2021 14:01, Gabor Boros wrote: Please update the Roadmap page: https://firebirdsql.org/en/roadmap Done. Dmitry Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8
2021.11.17. 19:58 keltezéssel, Mark Rotteveel írta: Firebird 3.0.8 has been released: https://firebirdsql.org/en/news/firebird-3-0-8-sub-release-is-available/ Mark Please update the Roadmap page: https://firebirdsql.org/en/roadmap Gabor Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8
Yes, Thank you Team! András -Original Message- From: Mark Rotteveel [mailto:m...@lawinegevaar.nl] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:58 PM To: firebird-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8 On 06-11-2021 08:30, Omacht András wrote: > Hi All, > > it's November now. > > Any chance of coming out in the near future? > > 3.0.7 was released October 20, 2020. Firebird 3.0.8 has been released: https://firebirdsql.org/en/news/firebird-3-0-8-sub-release-is-available/ Mark -- Mark Rotteveel Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8
On 06-11-2021 08:30, Omacht András wrote: Hi All, it's November now. Any chance of coming out in the near future? 3.0.7 was released October 20, 2020. Firebird 3.0.8 has been released: https://firebirdsql.org/en/news/firebird-3-0-8-sub-release-is-available/ Mark -- Mark Rotteveel Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8
06.11.2021 10:30, Omacht András wrote: it's November now. Any chance of coming out in the near future? 3.0.7 was released October 20, 2020. I'm going to tag the tree tomorrow. The release will come shortly after. Dmitry Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
Hi All, it's November now. Any chance of coming out in the near future? 3.0.7 was released October 20, 2020. András -Original Message- Sent: Monday, September 6, 2021 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8? 06.09.2021 13:31, Omacht András wrote: > > is 3.0.8 expected to be released in the near future? Yes, September-October. Dmitry Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 23915 (20210906) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
2021.09.09. 18:41 keltezéssel, Slavomir Skopalik írta: And if snapshot has quality of release, why is not released more often officially? +1 Gabor Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
No, nobody talking about bug report. The topics are: 1. Customers don't want to have unofficial version. 2. Snapshot are not tested by firebird users 3. Missing official change log (whats new) causes that you will not pass audit 4. Regressions in code (remember FB2.5) And if snapshot has quality of release, why is not released more often officially? Slavek Ing. Slavomir Skopalik Executive Head Elekt Labs s.r.o. MASA - Collection and evaluation of data from machines and laboratories http://eng.elektlabs.com/products-and-services/masa - Address: Elekt Labs s.r.o. Chaloupky 158 783 72 Velky Tynec Czech Republic --- Mobile: +420 724 207 851 skype:skopaliks e-mail:skopa...@elektlabs.cz http://www.elektlabs.com On 9.09.21 18:19, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Slavomir Skopalik wrote 09.09.2021 18:12: But this is automated tests, not a real experiences. Automated tests were created after reported bugs. If you see no test for a bug - nobody reported it, right? Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
Slavomir Skopalik wrote 09.09.2021 18:12: But this is automated tests, not a real experiences. Automated tests were created after reported bugs. If you see no test for a bug - nobody reported it, right? -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
But this is automated tests, not a real experiences. Slavek Ing. Slavomir Skopalik Executive Head Elekt Labs s.r.o. MASA - Collection and evaluation of data from machines and laboratories http://eng.elektlabs.com/products-and-services/masa - Address: Elekt Labs s.r.o. Chaloupky 158 783 72 Velky Tynec Czech Republic --- Mobile: +420 724 207 851 skype:skopaliks e-mail:skopa...@elektlabs.cz http://www.elektlabs.com On 9.09.21 18:02, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Slavomir Skopalik wrote 09.09.2021 17:54: Finally, the releases are test by large number of users, but snapshots? http://firebirdtest.com Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
Slavomir Skopalik wrote 09.09.2021 17:54: Finally, the releases are test by large number of users, but snapshots? http://firebirdtest.com -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
From customer point of view, if we are using latest official release, we do the best what we can. If we are using snapshots, is the same as will do our self modification. And by the way in many cases not all snapshot are stable. You can see post commits or reverts. Finally, the releases are test by large number of users, but snapshots? Slavek Ing. Slavomir Skopalik Executive Head Elekt Labs s.r.o. MASA - Collection and evaluation of data from machines and laboratories http://eng.elektlabs.com/products-and-services/masa - Address: Elekt Labs s.r.o. Chaloupky 158 783 72 Velky Tynec Czech Republic --- Mobile: +420 724 207 851 skype:skopaliks e-mail:skopa...@elektlabs.cz http://www.elektlabs.com On 9.09.21 13:35, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Slavomir Skopalik wrote 09.09.2021 12:11: if you will put snapshots into production, you will be responsible for everything. It sounds as if Firebird project can take liability for release builds... The another point of view is, that snapshot is not tested and verified by public. Test suites are public. Anyone can run them against any build. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
Mike Kaganski wrote 09.09.2021 15:58: Users would never be able to compare their problems if their user versions would be different dailies. The first rule of bug reporting - try your testcase against the current snapshot. Users either have reproducible testcase that they can test against the current snapshot and attach to bugreport or not. In the latter case the problem is unlikely to be fixed no matter of "release" mark. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
On 09.09.2021 13:27, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 09.09.2021 12:22: Snapshots are not releases. The difference is only changelog and number. Automated tests are run in any case. :) Indeed not only that. Any release is a landmark; it establishes a baseline. It allows users to relate to this version, and in case of problems, know if their problems are common for a given release, or specific to a system; it allows to have common solutions (like "for version X.Y.Z, there is a problem foo, and a workaround is bar"). It allows for normal bug reporting against specific version. Snapshots are fine only for testing. Users would never be able to compare their problems if their user versions would be different dailies. (Not that I'm personally affected by the frequency of FB releases :)) -- Best regards, Mike Kaganski Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
Slavomir Skopalik wrote 09.09.2021 12:11: if you will put snapshots into production, you will be responsible for everything. It sounds as if Firebird project can take liability for release builds... The another point of view is, that snapshot is not tested and verified by public. Test suites are public. Anyone can run them against any build. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
Sorry to say, if you will put snapshots into production, you will be responsible for everything. The another point of view is, that snapshot is not tested and verified by public. For my customers, no way to go. Slavek Ing. Slavomir Skopalik Executive Head Elekt Labs s.r.o. MASA - Collection and evaluation of data from machines and laboratories http://eng.elektlabs.com/products-and-services/masa - Address: Elekt Labs s.r.o. Chaloupky 158 783 72 Velky Tynec Czech Republic --- Mobile: +420 724 207 851 skype:skopaliks e-mail:skopa...@elektlabs.cz http://www.elektlabs.com On 9.09.21 11:57, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Gabor Boros wrote 09.09.2021 9:36: 3.0.7 released in October 2020. Snapshots are released daily. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
Mark Rotteveel wrote 09.09.2021 12:22: Snapshots are not releases. The difference is only changelog and number. Automated tests are run in any case. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
On 2021-09-09 11:57, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Gabor Boros wrote 09.09.2021 9:36: 3.0.7 released in October 2020. Snapshots are released daily. Snapshots are not releases. Mark Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
Gabor Boros wrote 09.09.2021 9:36: 3.0.7 released in October 2020. Snapshots are released daily. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
2021.09.06. 12:45 keltezéssel, Dmitry Yemanov írta: 06.09.2021 13:31, Omacht András wrote: is 3.0.8 expected to be released in the near future? Yes, September-October. Dmitry 3.0.7 released in October 2020. What we need to get more frequent (for example in the middle of each quarter) point releases? Manpower? Money? Intention? we = The Community. FB core developers, FB users,... Gabor Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Plans for 3.0.8?
06.09.2021 13:31, Omacht András wrote: is 3.0.8 expected to be released in the near future? Yes, September-October. Dmitry Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
