Re: [Firebird-devel] soureforge.net

2011-11-30 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
30.11.2011 12:24, Mark Rotteveel wrote:

 Is it able to discern between 32 and 64 bit?

Unfortunately, not.

 On Windows Vista 64 bit (using Firefox 32 bit though)
 I get the suggestion to download the Firebird 32 bit package.

This is the lesser evil. You know that 32-bit builds can work in both 
32-bit and 64-bit environments but not vice versa. Let's stay on the 
safe side.


Dmitry

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Re: [Firebird-devel] soureforge.net

2011-11-30 Thread Alex Peshkoff
 On 11/30/11 12:33, Dmitry Yemanov wrote:
 30.11.2011 12:24, Mark Rotteveel wrote:

 Is it able to discern between 32 and 64 bit?
 Unfortunately, not.

 On Windows Vista 64 bit (using Firefox 32 bit though)
 I get the suggestion to download the Firebird 32 bit package.
 This is the lesser evil. You know that 32-bit builds can work in both 
 32-bit and 64-bit environments but not vice versa. Let's stay on the 
 safe side.

Who knows which evil is lesser...
If one downloads 32-bit build for 64-bit OS, he can always stay with it
even not knowing that 64 builds exist.


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Re: [Firebird-devel] soureforge.net

2011-11-30 Thread Dmitry Kuzmenko
Hello, Alex!

Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 12:44:50 PM, you wrote:

AP Who knows which evil is lesser...
AP If one downloads 32-bit build for 64-bit OS, he can always stay with it
AP even not knowing that 64 builds exist.

I think this is design flaw of sf.net, and that's it.
Personally, I'd placed All files text
at that green button, without showing
the latest package. But, as I understand,
this can't be done.

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Re: [Firebird-devel] soureforge.net

2011-11-30 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
30.11.2011 12:44, Alex Peshkoff wrote:

 Who knows which evil is lesser...
 If one downloads 32-bit build for 64-bit OS, he can always stay with it
 even not knowing that 64 builds exist.

But at least it will work fine for him, even being possibly a bit slower 
than the x64 build. And those who care about performance are unlikely to 
choose some default download suggestion without analyzing the 
alternatives.


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Re: [Firebird-devel] soureforge.net

2011-11-29 Thread Alex Peshkoff
 On 11/30/11 11:16, Dmitry Kuzmenko wrote:
 Hello, All!

 I'm sorry writing this question here, bit I have not
 access to firebird-admins.

 Is it normal that SF alway suggesting to download
 .Net driver?

 For example, when I open
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/firebird/

 I see huge green button recommending me to
 download .Net driver.

What is funny - I instead of .Net driver see 'big green button' with
text Download FirebirdSS-2.5.0.26074-0.i686.rpm.
Probably SF detected that it's linux on client, therefore suggestion to
get rpm... But anyway:
1. Why 2.5.0? (not .1)
2. I use gentoo, and RPMs are not supported :-)

 Under this button is link
 Browse All Files, where there are really all files, but I can be confused,
 maybe these all files are related to .Net ?

 Also, when I open
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/firebird/files/

 I again see at the top message

 Looking for the latest version? Download NETProvider-2.6.5.msi (620.0kB)

 What is that, really?

 I have nothing against .net driver, but for me it's not clear,
 why, instead, sf not recommending me to download latest ODBC driver,
 Jaybird driver, or even latest Firebird distributive.

 If you remember, earlier that .Net driver was named at SF
 as Firebird client, and this advertisement was more confusing
 for the people who came to the FB downloads first time.
 Now it's less confusing, but, maybe, trying to say that
 all of these is about .Net :-)

I fully agree that (if it's possible at SF) it will be better to tune
'big green button' to point to latest server release for current
client's platform, or at least send to list of all files in latest
firebird release.

PS. Dmitry, I've CCd this to admins list too.


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Re: [Firebird-devel] soureforge.net

2011-11-29 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
30.11.2011 11:37, Dmitry Yemanov wrote:

 So the reason is elsewhere.

Found it. SF has an ability to set the default download for the every 
major platform (Win/Lin/Mac/etc). This option was left empty for the 
server binaries but set for the .NET provider packages.

I have it fixed now for Windows (2.5.1 installer is suggested) and Linux 
(2.5.1 CS RPM is suggested). Other platforms will follow.

Please test it and suggest any corrections.


Dmitry


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Re: [Firebird-devel] soureforge.net

2011-11-29 Thread Philippe Makowski
Dmitry Yemanov  [2011-11-30 08:44] :
 Please test it and suggest any corrections.
For Linux 2.5.1 tar.gz is a better default choice than rpm


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