[flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-10 Thread GeorgeB
Hi all,

A apologetic reply email from Adobe technical support acknowledging a mistake, 
shows healthy reflexes and is the right thing they 've done.  

But I don't think this incident is characteristic of only a certain company. 
These globalised economic crisis days I expect we will see more of this. And 
it's a sad thing... so, let's develop some RIAs instead. LOL

Thanks 
George



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, hpatino.rm hpat...@... wrote:

  Obviously someone from the support center has been given the wrong 
  impression about what is going to happen to Flex Builder3..
 
 That was the case. With this incident, Adobe score some negative points in 
 our team that is evaluating our tool for our future RIA development.  
 
 What if I had not raised my voice here?  
 
 I just received an apolegetic email from Adobe Technical Support.  Let's hope 
 there is a better comunication internally at Adobe from now on.
 
 HP





[flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-09 Thread GeorgeB
Thanks Matt for your reply and your interest to clarify this.

Obviously someone from the support center has been given the wrong impression 
about what is going to happen to Flex Builder3..
(as far as I know, Adobe has a technical support policy for all commercial 
products, so one can buy technical support under contract for older products - 
even if this case is an installation problem and advice should be given free of 
charge)

George

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 I've asked our customer service team to investigate what happened here.
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of GeorgeB
 Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:34 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!
 
 
 
 It was written by the original poster:
 
 I am very disappointed as I just bought Flex builder this week after I 
 carefully
 evaluated the product during the trial period. I had an issue activating my
 product, and needed support to remove some conflict with the trial version 
 that
 did not disappeared even after uninstalling and deleting completely the trial
 version. Customer Service was very nice but no technical support was offered.
 
 What else is there to interpret?
 
 Thanks
 George
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jochem 
 van Dieten jochemd@mailto:jochemd@ wrote:
 
  On 2/8/10, GeorgeB wrote:
   I think it was bound to happen. First Adobe announces that it drops the
   brand name of a product line. Then somebody tosses in the rumor that Adobe
   has dropped tech support for that product!!! (as if it has anything else 
   to
   support in this area)
 
  No support is a frequent complaint from people and in many cases when
  you dig around for details in the end it turns out that people ask for
  Flex support instead of Flex Builder support. (Case in point: the
  subject of this thread.) When we get a distinction between the
  supported commercial products Flash Professional / Builder / Catalyst
  and the open source frameworks like Flex and OSMF the message will be
  much clearer
 
  Jochem
 
 
 ! --
  Jochem van Dieten
  http://jochem.vandieten.net/
 





[flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-09 Thread hpatino.rm
 Obviously someone from the support center has been given the wrong impression 
 about what is going to happen to Flex Builder3..

That was the case. With this incident, Adobe score some negative points in our 
team that is evaluating our tool for our future RIA development.  

What if I had not raised my voice here?  

I just received an apolegetic email from Adobe Technical Support.  Let's hope 
there is a better comunication internally at Adobe from now on.

HP



[flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-08 Thread GeorgeB
Hi all.

I think it was bound to happen. First Adobe announces that it drops the brand 
name of a product line. Then somebody tosses in the rumor that Adobe has 
dropped tech support for that product!!! (as if it has anything else to support 
in this area)

Now what? Another rumor will show up that Adobe is going down?
What a mess this is...

George




--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Harui aha...@... wrote:

 I really doubt that is true.  Flex Builder 3 is the only official version. 
 Flex 4 is still pre-release.  Try again and see if you can get their response 
 in writing.
 
 
 On 2/5/10 5:02 PM, hpatino.rm hpat...@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I was informed today by Adobe that there is NO technical support for flex 
 builder 3.  Only for Flex 4 beta.
 
 I am very disappointed as I just bought Flex builder this week after I 
 carefully evaluated the product during the trial period.  I had an issue 
 activating my product, and needed support to remove some conflict with the 
 trial version that did not disappeared even after uninstalling and deleting 
 completely the trial version.  Customer Service was very nice but no 
 technical support was offered.
 
 That shows the commitment of Adobe to this product.
 
 Regards
 
 HP
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Alex Harui
 Flex SDK Team
 Adobe System, Inc.
 http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui





Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-08 Thread Alex Harui
Please call again and get the names of the folks you are speaking to.


On 2/6/10 4:16 PM, hpatino.rm hpat...@rocketmail.com wrote:






Dear Matt

 That sounds very incorrect. We support released software only.

I bought last week Adobe flex 3 (Adobe standard version)

Called adobe tech support on
Friday February 05, 2010 around 6:00 PM Eastern Time

Transfered to customer service after I was told there is no more tech support 
for adobe.  Even the customer service representative was so surprised to hear 
that, and confirm with someone internally.

Customer service try to help me by asking me to re-install the product and then 
I was transferred again to Tech support.  Another representative try to help me 
with no luck, he dropped the call and never called me back!

I am not making this up.

Kind regards,

HPatino






--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe System, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On 2/8/10, GeorgeB wrote:
 I think it was bound to happen. First Adobe announces that it drops the
 brand name of a product line. Then somebody tosses in the rumor that Adobe
 has dropped tech support for that product!!! (as if it has anything else to
 support in this area)

No support is a frequent complaint from people and in many cases when
you dig around for details in the end it turns out that people ask for
Flex support instead of Flex Builder support. (Case in point: the
subject of this thread.)  When we get a distinction between the
supported commercial products Flash Professional / Builder / Catalyst
and the open source frameworks like Flex and OSMF the message will be
much clearer

Jochem


-- 
Jochem van Dieten
http://jochem.vandieten.net/


[flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-08 Thread GeorgeB


It was written by the original poster:

I am very disappointed as I just bought Flex builder this week after I
carefully
evaluated the product during the trial period. I had an issue activating
my
product, and needed support to remove some conflict with the trial
version that
did not disappeared even after uninstalling and deleting completely the
trial
version. Customer Service was very nice but no technical support was
offered.

What else is there to interpret?

Thanks
George

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jochem van Dieten joch...@...
wrote:

 On 2/8/10, GeorgeB wrote:
  I think it was bound to happen. First Adobe announces that it drops
the
  brand name of a product line. Then somebody tosses in the rumor that
Adobe
  has dropped tech support for that product!!! (as if it has anything
else to
  support in this area)

 No support is a frequent complaint from people and in many cases when
 you dig around for details in the end it turns out that people ask for
 Flex support instead of Flex Builder support. (Case in point: the
 subject of this thread.) When we get a distinction between the
 supported commercial products Flash Professional / Builder / Catalyst
 and the open source frameworks like Flex and OSMF the message will be
 much clearer

 Jochem


 --
 Jochem van Dieten
 http://jochem.vandieten.net/





RE: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-08 Thread Matt Chotin
I've asked our customer service team to investigate what happened here.

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of GeorgeB
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:34 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!



It was written by the original poster:

I am very disappointed as I just bought Flex builder this week after I carefully
evaluated the product during the trial period. I had an issue activating my
product, and needed support to remove some conflict with the trial version that
did not disappeared even after uninstalling and deleting completely the trial
version. Customer Service was very nice but no technical support was offered.

What else is there to interpret?

Thanks
George

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jochem 
van Dieten joch...@...mailto:joch...@... wrote:

 On 2/8/10, GeorgeB wrote:
  I think it was bound to happen. First Adobe announces that it drops the
  brand name of a product line. Then somebody tosses in the rumor that Adobe
  has dropped tech support for that product!!! (as if it has anything else to
  support in this area)

 No support is a frequent complaint from people and in many cases when
 you dig around for details in the end it turns out that people ask for
 Flex support instead of Flex Builder support. (Case in point: the
 subject of this thread.) When we get a distinction between the
 supported commercial products Flash Professional / Builder / Catalyst
 and the open source frameworks like Flex and OSMF the message will be
 much clearer

 Jochem


! --
 Jochem van Dieten
 http://jochem.vandieten.net/




[flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-07 Thread hpatino.rm
Dear Matt

 That sounds very incorrect. We support released software only. 

I bought last week Adobe flex 3 (Adobe standard version)

Called adobe tech support on
Friday February 05, 2010 around 6:00 PM Eastern Time

Transfered to customer service after I was told there is no more tech support 
for adobe.  Even the customer service representative was so surprised to hear 
that, and confirm with someone internally.

Customer service try to help me by asking me to re-install the product and then 
I was transferred again to Tech support.  Another representative try to help me 
with no luck, he dropped the call and never called me back!

I am not making this up.

Kind regards, 

HPatino




Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-07 Thread Matt Chotin
I've asked our customer service team to look into this.

Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity or typos.

On Feb 7, 2010, at 5:59 AM, hpatino.rm 
hpat...@rocketmail.commailto:hpat...@rocketmail.com wrote:



Dear Matt

 That sounds very incorrect. We support released software only.

I bought last week Adobe flex 3 (Adobe standard version)

Called adobe tech support on
Friday February 05, 2010 around 6:00 PM Eastern Time

Transfered to customer service after I was told there is no more tech support 
for adobe. Even the customer service representative was so surprised to hear 
that, and confirm with someone internally.

Customer service try to help me by asking me to re-install the product and then 
I was transferred again to Tech support. Another representative try to help me 
with no luck, he dropped the call and never called me back!

I am not making this up.

Kind regards,

HPatino