[flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-16 Thread arieljake
I think you can avoid this if you open another site in the first tab
before debugging and leave it open as you debug and re-debug.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I reload the app (and kill the debugging session) in the browser
 beforehand, then Builder will reuse the tab correctly without
killing the
 browser.
 
 -Josh
 
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Doing that kills the entire browser process. I really can't for
the life of
  me figure out the problem. I've had it happen from Builder and
from Flex
  Plugin, and only in some workspaces even on the same machine :(
 
  -Josh
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Rob Kunkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I think this happens because the debugger is still running when you
  start it the second time. Try pressing the red stop debugging
square
  in flex builder to stop the debugger, and see if that fixes the
problem.
 
  r
 
 
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote:
  
   Hey guys,
  
   In one or two workspaces, everything works fine. In most of them,
  however,
   every second time I debug an app, everything goes as normal but
then
  Builder
   kills the Safari application (not just the old tab, but the
entire app).
   This is of course *incredibly* annoying given how slow all this
  stuff is.
  
   Any ideas what causes this?
  
   -Josh
  
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-16 Thread Josh McDonald
Nope, nor if I have a bunch of sites open in another window.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:22 PM, arieljake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think you can avoid this if you open another site in the first tab
 before debugging and leave it open as you debug and re-debug.

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If I reload the app (and kill the debugging session) in the browser
  beforehand, then Builder will reuse the tab correctly without
 killing the
  browser.
 
  -Josh
 
  On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Doing that kills the entire browser process. I really can't for
 the life of
   me figure out the problem. I've had it happen from Builder and
 from Flex
   Plugin, and only in some workspaces even on the same machine :(
  
   -Josh
  
  
   On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Rob Kunkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I think this happens because the debugger is still running when you
   start it the second time. Try pressing the red stop debugging
 square
   in flex builder to stop the debugger, and see if that fixes the
 problem.
  
   r
  
  
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote:
   
Hey guys,
   
In one or two workspaces, everything works fine. In most of them,
   however,
every second time I debug an app, everything goes as normal but
 then
   Builder
kills the Safari application (not just the old tab, but the
 entire app).
This is of course *incredibly* annoying given how slow all this
   stuff is.
   
Any ideas what causes this?
   
-Josh
   
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-15 Thread Josh McDonald
If only I could get Flex debugging working in Idea 8!

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Nik Derewianka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yep or close the window with the app before re-launching the debug
 session also works as well.

 FB on OSX has a lot of drawbacks - on win, the help gets its own
 window (so it doesn't get killed by the debugging), syntax colouring
 works better, images actually appear in design mode all the time, it
 builds a lot faster (iMac in BC spanks my mac pro in OSX), the text
 editor doesn't lag when doing fundamental things like selecting text.
 Oh and I love it when FB seems to get confused and tries to launch a
 debug session but in reality it's just sitting there and waiting to
 time out.   At least embedded fonts still disappear on both platforms
 in between compiles for no apparent reason so I don't feel completely
 screwed over.

 If it was edge case stuff, it wouldn't be a problem, but this is stuff
 you have to put up with every couple of minutes.

 Nik

 

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-15 Thread Nik Derewianka

Yep or close the window with the app before re-launching the debug  
session also works as well.

FB on OSX has a lot of drawbacks - on win, the help gets its own  
window (so it doesn't get killed by the debugging), syntax colouring  
works better, images actually appear in design mode all the time, it  
builds a lot faster (iMac in BC spanks my mac pro in OSX), the text  
editor doesn't lag when doing fundamental things like selecting text.   
Oh and I love it when FB seems to get confused and tries to launch a  
debug session but in reality it's just sitting there and waiting to  
time out.   At least embedded fonts still disappear on both platforms  
in between compiles for no apparent reason so I don't feel completely  
screwed over.

If it was edge case stuff, it wouldn't be a problem, but this is stuff  
you have to put up with every couple of minutes.

Nik


[flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-15 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Nik Derewianka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Yep or close the window with the app before re-launching the debug  
 session also works as well.
 
 FB on OSX has a lot of drawbacks - on win, the help gets its own  
 window (so it doesn't get killed by the debugging), syntax colouring  
 works better, images actually appear in design mode all the time, it  
 builds a lot faster (iMac in BC spanks my mac pro in OSX), the text  
 editor doesn't lag when doing fundamental things like selecting text. 

Mine does this sometimes on XP.  I think that it depends on if the Help 
is open and how many projects you have open.

-Amy



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-15 Thread Rich Rodecker
yeah that sucks...I actually managed to kill that issue, but I can't
remember exactly how (sorry).  Try this:
http://www.visible-form.com/blog/ending-a-flex-builder-debug-session-would-cause-safari-to-quit/,
and I believe that somewhere in FlexBuilder preferences there is a
setting
(or multiple settings) for dealing with launching multiple debug sessions.
 I know there's one about warning when trying to launch multiple debug
sessions, try turning that off.


On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Nik
 Derewianka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Yep or close the window with the app before re-launching the debug
  session also works as well.
 
  FB on OSX has a lot of drawbacks - on win, the help gets its own
  window (so it doesn't get killed by the debugging), syntax colouring
  works better, images actually appear in design mode all the time, it
  builds a lot faster (iMac in BC spanks my mac pro in OSX), the text
  editor doesn't lag when doing fundamental things like selecting text.

 Mine does this sometimes on XP. I think that it depends on if the Help
 is open and how many projects you have open.

 -Amy

  



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-15 Thread Troy Gilbert
 FB on OSX has a lot of drawbacks - on win, the help gets its own
 window (so it doesn't get killed by the debugging), syntax colouring
 works better, images actually appear in design mode all the time, it
 builds a lot faster (iMac in BC spanks my mac pro in OSX), the text
 editor doesn't lag when doing fundamental things like selecting text.
 Oh and I love it when FB seems to get confused and tries to launch a
 debug session but in reality it's just sitting there and waiting to
 time out. At least embedded fonts still disappear on both platforms
 in between compiles for no apparent reason so I don't feel completely
 screwed over.

Just wanted to say, yes. I experience all these issues as well on
OSX. All of my other development tools tend to work better on OSX, but
Flex... nope. I used it for a long time under Parallels, but switching
back and forth between Windows-style keyboard shortcuts and  OSX-style
keyboard shortcuts was driving me crazy. So, I *like* having a native
OSX app... I just don't understand why it has to be crappier than the
Windows version?

And, to add insult to injury, I found that FB3 was *worse* on OSX than
FB2 was... very frustrating!

Troy.


Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-15 Thread Maciek Sakrejda
To quote a Monty Python sketch, Luxury! Us Linux guys have no
profiler, no refactoring, no designer, features like Find all
references simply don't (sure, they find *some* references, but often
enough not all), symlinks confuse the heck our of FB, and the current
(fourth!) alpha lasts another 412 days, meaning that we probably won't
have major improvements before then.

It would be really nice to have FlexBuilder truly cross-platform.
Eclipse itself seems to do it reasonably well.

I certainly appreciate the effort at Linux support (the interactive
debugging is great), but it would be nice if cross-platform support were
taken more seriously, and not just used as a feature bullet point.
-- 
Maciek Sakrejda
Truviso, Inc.
http://www.truviso.com

-Original Message-
From: Troy Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex
closes Safari :(
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:13:20 -0500

 FB on OSX has a lot of drawbacks - on win, the help gets its own
 window (so it doesn't get killed by the debugging), syntax colouring
 works better, images actually appear in design mode all the time, it
 builds a lot faster (iMac in BC spanks my mac pro in OSX), the text
 editor doesn't lag when doing fundamental things like selecting text.
 Oh and I love it when FB seems to get confused and tries to launch a
 debug session but in reality it's just sitting there and waiting to
 time out. At least embedded fonts still disappear on both platforms
 in between compiles for no apparent reason so I don't feel completely
 screwed over.

Just wanted to say, yes. I experience all these issues as well on
OSX. All of my other development tools tend to work better on OSX, but
Flex... nope. I used it for a long time under Parallels, but switching
back and forth between Windows-style keyboard shortcuts and OSX-style
keyboard shortcuts was driving me crazy. So, I *like* having a native
OSX app... I just don't understand why it has to be crappier than the
Windows version?

And, to add insult to injury, I found that FB3 was *worse* on OSX than
FB2 was... very frustrating!

Troy.



 




Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-15 Thread Troy Gilbert
 It would be really nice to have FlexBuilder truly cross-platform.
 Eclipse itself seems to do it reasonably well.

You know, if someone ported FlashDevelop to OSX/Linux, it would really
put the pressure on Adobe to improve their game.

Also, I never use FB as a plug-in to Eclipse. But if I did, are there
features of FB I'd lose as compared to the FB IDE? And if there's not,
how difficult would it be to create an open-sourced FB eclipse plug-in
that accomplished the same stuff (while fixing some of these problems)
since MXML is freely available (and source)?

Troy.


Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-15 Thread Josh McDonald
Well, the design view would be incredibly difficult without help from Adobe
(and the state of the Linux Builder shows even with their help), as it's (as
far as I can tell) a customised version of Player that's glued in with JNI.
The rest of the features are pretty standard, and Idea 8 shows it can be
done (although I can't for the life of me make the debugger work).

-Josh

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Troy Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  It would be really nice to have FlexBuilder truly cross-platform.
  Eclipse itself seems to do it reasonably well.

 You know, if someone ported FlashDevelop to OSX/Linux, it would really
 put the pressure on Adobe to improve their game.

 Also, I never use FB as a plug-in to Eclipse. But if I did, are there
 features of FB I'd lose as compared to the FB IDE? And if there's not,
 how difficult would it be to create an open-sourced FB eclipse plug-in
 that accomplished the same stuff (while fixing some of these problems)
 since MXML is freely available (and source)?

 Troy.

 

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[flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-14 Thread Rob Kunkle
I think this happens because the debugger is still running when you
start it the second time. Try pressing the red stop debugging square
in flex builder to stop the debugger, and see if that fixes the problem.

r


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 In one or two workspaces, everything works fine. In most of them,
however,
 every second time I debug an app, everything goes as normal but then
Builder
 kills the Safari application (not just the old tab, but the entire app).
 This is of course *incredibly* annoying given how slow all this
stuff is.
 
 Any ideas what causes this?
 
 -Josh
 
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thee.
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-14 Thread Josh McDonald
Doing that kills the entire browser process. I really can't for the life of
me figure out the problem. I've had it happen from Builder and from Flex
Plugin, and only in some workspaces even on the same machine :(

-Josh

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Rob Kunkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this happens because the debugger is still running when you
 start it the second time. Try pressing the red stop debugging square
 in flex builder to stop the debugger, and see if that fixes the problem.

 r


 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hey guys,
 
  In one or two workspaces, everything works fine. In most of them,
 however,
  every second time I debug an app, everything goes as normal but then
 Builder
  kills the Safari application (not just the old tab, but the entire app).
  This is of course *incredibly* annoying given how slow all this
 stuff is.
 
  Any ideas what causes this?
 
  -Josh
 
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 thee.
 
  Like the cut of my jib? Check out my Flex blog!
 
  :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Every second time I debug my app, Flex closes Safari :(

2008-10-14 Thread Josh McDonald
If I reload the app (and kill the debugging session) in the browser
beforehand, then Builder will reuse the tab correctly without killing the
browser.

-Josh

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doing that kills the entire browser process. I really can't for the life of
 me figure out the problem. I've had it happen from Builder and from Flex
 Plugin, and only in some workspaces even on the same machine :(

 -Josh


 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Rob Kunkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this happens because the debugger is still running when you
 start it the second time. Try pressing the red stop debugging square
 in flex builder to stop the debugger, and see if that fixes the problem.

 r


 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hey guys,
 
  In one or two workspaces, everything works fine. In most of them,
 however,
  every second time I debug an app, everything goes as normal but then
 Builder
  kills the Safari application (not just the old tab, but the entire app).
  This is of course *incredibly* annoying given how slow all this
 stuff is.
 
  Any ideas what causes this?
 
  -Josh
 
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 thee.
 
  Like the cut of my jib? Check out my Flex blog!
 
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