Re: [Flexradio] CW jack input on the Flex 5000
No, I'm not cheating. I do have a Begali straight key but I got a K1EL for use with the 600 meter experiment when I was preparing to set up a beacon. Naturally the K1EL wouldn't key either 3000 or 5000 without a mod but that may vary with age of the Flex radio. Still, simple examination of the keyer circuits and the radio isn't too difficult. I would think that any keyer could be compatible. But you have to remember that some knowledge and work might be needed. 73 Lee K9WRU - Original Message - From: Steve Sterling f...@sgsterling.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] CW jack input on the Flex 5000 I think they are referring to an external KEY (ex. Bencher), not external keyer. If you are using an external paddle key, it goes to the tip, sleeve and ring. Straight key, Vibraplex, or external electronic keyer just uses tip and sleeve. Gotta fix the settings in Setup for straight key. I use an external keyer, not the Flex internal iambic keyer, so I just hook output of keyer to the tip and sleeve (I think). Writing this from memory (I should check to be sure for you). I haven't liked any of my rig's internal keyers (Kenwood, Icom, Flex) as you had to fiddle to much to change speed and such. My trusty HamGadgets keyer fits perfect under the video monitor screen, big knob right there when I need to slow down or speed up. Using the Flex internal keyer, gotta grab the mouse, point click, point click, point click just to slow down for a guy. Give me carpal tunnel . all that ... The Icom, keyer speed was down like 3 button menu pushes, hold this for 2 seconds, but not 1 or 4 seconds, then click this other thing, twist a knob through menus Don't want a knob for anything else though. Just give me a good mouse and keyboard and my Flex. Steve WA7DUH On 3/30/2014 10:36 AM, David Umbaugh wrote: Guys, I don’t understand why Flex 5000 manual says that, when t using an external keyer, the “ring” connection of the stereo quarter inch plug is used, as well as the “tip” and the “sleeve.,” while for a straight key the “ring is not connected. Don’t all external keyers just have two conductor outputs, mimicking a straight key? And, I assume when using an external keyed, “iambic” is NOT checked. Can someone explain the cabling from an external keyed to the Flex 5000, and why it is so? Thanks, Dave WA8JNM ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] CW jack input on the Flex 5000
Lee What issues are you having with keying the 3k or 5k with K1EL keyer? There is a setting in PSDR that allows you to use a 2-connector plug so you you don't have to wire up a3-connector plug. Don - kx9q ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] CW jack input on the Flex 5000
Dave If you plug a two pin connector - tip and sleeve - into the cw input this will cause the ring to short out. Originally this was a problem, however, FRS added a feature in PSDR to allow the 2-wire cable which would resolve the issue of shorting out the ring. Go to Setup/DSP/Keyer and you will see an option for 2-wire connector. This will allow you to use an external keyer with only tip and sleeve. See the attachment for the box to check. Don - kx9q ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] CW jack input on the Flex 5000
Guys, I don’t understand why Flex 5000 manual says that, when t using an external keyer, the “ring” connection of the stereo quarter inch plug is used, as well as the “tip” and the “sleeve.,” while for a straight key the “ring is not connected. Don’t all external keyers just have two conductor outputs, mimicking a straight key? And, I assume when using an external keyed, “iambic” is NOT checked. Can someone explain the cabling from an external keyed to the Flex 5000, and why it is so? Thanks, Dave WA8JNM ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] CW jack input on the Flex 5000
I think they are referring to an external KEY (ex. Bencher), not external keyer. If you are using an external paddle key, it goes to the tip, sleeve and ring. Straight key, Vibraplex, or external electronic keyer just uses tip and sleeve. Gotta fix the settings in Setup for straight key. I use an external keyer, not the Flex internal iambic keyer, so I just hook output of keyer to the tip and sleeve (I think). Writing this from memory (I should check to be sure for you). I haven't liked any of my rig's internal keyers (Kenwood, Icom, Flex) as you had to fiddle to much to change speed and such. My trusty HamGadgets keyer fits perfect under the video monitor screen, big knob right there when I need to slow down or speed up. Using the Flex internal keyer, gotta grab the mouse, point click, point click, point click just to slow down for a guy. Give me carpal tunnel . all that ... The Icom, keyer speed was down like 3 button menu pushes, hold this for 2 seconds, but not 1 or 4 seconds, then click this other thing, twist a knob through menus Don't want a knob for anything else though. Just give me a good mouse and keyboard and my Flex. Steve WA7DUH On 3/30/2014 10:36 AM, David Umbaugh wrote: Guys, I don’t understand why Flex 5000 manual says that, when t using an external keyer, the “ring” connection of the stereo quarter inch plug is used, as well as the “tip” and the “sleeve.,” while for a straight key the “ring is not connected. Don’t all external keyers just have two conductor outputs, mimicking a straight key? And, I assume when using an external keyed, “iambic” is NOT checked. Can someone explain the cabling from an external keyed to the Flex 5000, and why it is so? Thanks, Dave WA8JNM ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
