Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer chat patch

2006-10-01 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Saturday 30 September 2006 16:57, Buchanan, Stuart wrote:
 Any chance this could be committed sometime, or objections raised?
Yes, I will do so this weekend. I would like to double check that it does not 
break the current protocol ...

  Greetings

Mathias

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer chat patch

2006-10-01 Thread Buchanan, Stuart

--- Mathias Fröhlich wrote:
ember 2006 16:57, Buchanan, Stuart wrote:
  Any chance this could be committed sometime, or objections raised?
 Yes, I will do so this weekend. I would like to double check that it
 does not 
 break the current protocol ...

Thanks. I've only been able to test the recent minor changes on a single
computer, so a bit or paranoia would be good. If you need another person
to help, let me know. I'll be on IRC.

-Stuart






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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer chat patch

2006-10-01 Thread Mathias Fröhlich

Stuart,

I have problems applying that patches.
I am not sure why but patch claims:

patch:  Only garbage was found in the patch input.

Could you rediff that only with
cvs diff -u 
instead of
cvs diff -u -p -8 -w

I would expect that this helps
Thanks!

On Sunday 01 October 2006 11:26, Buchanan, Stuart wrote:
 Thanks. I've only been able to test the recent minor changes on a single
 computer, so a bit or paranoia would be good. If you need another person
 to help, let me know. I'll be on IRC.
Thanks!

   Greetings

   Mathias

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[Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo

2006-10-01 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi everybody,

in the tradition of all real-life pilots-to-be reporting about their
milestone experiences in their training, I'd like to tell you about my
first solo in the traffic circuit I had on Friday.

For understanding of the context: I'm currently training to be a pilot
of microlight planes of the aerodynamically controlled type. IIRC
these things are known as VLA (very light aircraft) in the US, although
some of the parameters (maximum MTOW etc.) are different. So I'm not
flying trikes but merely a much smaller and lighter version of what you
PPL-pilots out there are using. I'm training on a Comco Ikarus C42B, of
which a model for FlightGear is in the making (detailed static 3D model
is nearly complete, FDM is a mess and no animation or scripting of
specific instruments has yet taken place ;-) ).

On Thursday it happened to happen that the conditions of myself having
time off from my dayjob, not being too tired from it and the weather
being VMC (lower limits, however) met on the same day. I hadn't had any
lessons for nearly a month and the last one was a bit frustrating
because the landings just didn't want to work the way I wanted them to,
which - as I learned later on - was due to several factors I couldn't
expect to counter at my stage of training, one of them being the
maintenance guy who had fastened some screws in the front gear a bit too
hard which made control of rudder and steering wheel harder and much
less precise. It makes a whole lot of a difference whether you can
control the rudder with only small forces or whether you need to
literally stump on the pedals to actually move them.

And on Thursday we went to our training airodrome (landing fees there
allow us to do ten times more landings for the same price as at our home
base), did some coordination training (following curvy roads) as well as
some navigation training in bad visibility, and then I did my first
landing for that day, which was absolutely perfect! We did 8 landings in
total and all of them were at least safe, even though not perfect in my
mind (I expect my passengers not to know that we're on the ground again
;-) )

In the break we did in between my instructor already babbled something
about not letting me do a solo today yet, but there was something in
that yet...

On the following day, Friday, we went to that aerodrome again and I did
3 landings, all of which were safe again. On the fourth landing my
instructor added a little spice by simulating an engine failure for me
to see that essentially that doesn't make a huge problem when you're
almost on the runway and high enough. After that landing we taxied to
the apron and he tried to assure me that we would have a short break
now. He's a very talented actor, but I was already prepared and it
seemed awkward to do a break after that few landings.

He left the plane on the apron and then told me to do 3 or 4 landings
solo. I don't need to tell you I was nervous as hell, however, somehow I
didn't notice the forgetting how to fly effect others had told me of.

I taxied to the taxi holding point, reported that I would taxi onto the
runway and takeoff as soon as the recently-landed powered glider had
left it. When the runway was clear, I went onto the runway, set flaps
and full power and finally was on my first real solo takeoff run. Soon
after the tires left the ground, the nervousness transformed into pure
excitement.

I can't say I was relaxed but I wasn't exactly tense either. The plane
climbed like I'd never seen it climb before so I was on traffic circuit
altitude already before turning crosswind. Suddenly I had so much time
between leveling the plane and crossing abeam threshold (which is the
point for starting descent in the procedure I've learnt) so I could
really enjoy the view.

In the second or third downwind I was flying the engine suddenly seemed
to run lumpy, so I tried some of the standard procedures to check the
engine I had learnt. Pulling carburetor heat (we had high humidity and
16-17 degrees Celsius outside temperature), trying a different RPM, etc.
I blame it on being alone in the plane for the first time, where one
probably tends to hear ghosts, but there was nothing wrong with the engine.

I just wanted to go on and on and on, but it was already near sunset so
we had to return to our home base soon. After the fourth landing I
parked the plane and my instructor came along showing thumbs up. We
had a short break and then went home.

The end of that flight was marked by the very first real-life landing in
EDNY which I did totally on my own: No hands for my instructor ;-) As
compared to the other typical traffic in EDNY we are relatively slow, we
tend to do fast landings, coming to 50m aside the runway descending with
about 140-160km/h and cruise power setting (normal approach speed is
110km/h), do a relatively steep turn and align to the runway, then
reducing the speed by a long flare. There is an agreement between the
microlight pilots at EDNY and the 

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer chat patch

2006-10-01 Thread Buchanan, Stuart

--- Mathias Fröhlich wrote:
 Stuart,
 
 I have problems applying that patches.
 I am not sure why but patch claims:
 
 patch:  Only garbage was found in the patch input.
 
 Could you rediff that only with
 cvs diff -u 
 instead of
 cvs diff -u -p -8 -w

Done. I've also run dos2unix on it. Available from
http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/chat.tar.gz

-Stuart





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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in mp-visibility of planes?

2006-10-01 Thread Maik Justus

Hi,

this effect is caused by the
   globals-set_sim_time_sec( 0.0 );
call when resetting. After this the stored time offset mTimeOffset in 
AIMultiplayer.cxx is wrong and it needs much time this offset is corrected.
I don't know, why this bug is only visible in windows (at least it is 
not reported for other os).


Please find enclosed a patch for AIMultiplayer.cxx, which detects and 
corrects large time offsets.  (I only tested it very shortly, but i t 
seems to work (at least as a workaround)).


Maik


Maik Justus wrote:

Hi,
Maik Justus wrote:
  

Hi,
Maik Justus wrote:
  
After choosing 
Reset in the File menu, all multiplayer aircrafts stop moving. 

after some time the multiplayer aircrafts start moving again. I am not 
sure, but I could be, that this some time is about the duration of the 
last session (time since the prior reset resp. starting of flightgear to 
the reset).


  




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo

2006-10-01 Thread Dave Perry
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 12:25 +0200, Ralf Gerlich wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 in the tradition of all real-life pilots-to-be reporting about their
 milestone experiences in their training, I'd like to tell you about my
 first solo in the traffic circuit I had on Friday.
 
 For understanding of the context: I'm currently training to be a pilot
 of microlight planes of the aerodynamically controlled type. IIRC
 these things are known as VLA (very light aircraft) in the US, although
 some of the parameters (maximum MTOW etc.) are different. So I'm not
 flying trikes but merely a much smaller and lighter version of what you
 PPL-pilots out there are using. I'm training on a Comco Ikarus C42B, of
 which a model for FlightGear is in the making (detailed static 3D model
 is nearly complete, FDM is a mess and no animation or scripting of
 specific instruments has yet taken place ;-) ).
 
 On Thursday it happened to happen that the conditions of myself having
 time off from my dayjob, not being too tired from it and the weather
 being VMC (lower limits, however) met on the same day. I hadn't had any
 lessons for nearly a month and the last one was a bit frustrating
 because the landings just didn't want to work the way I wanted them to,
 which - as I learned later on - was due to several factors I couldn't
 expect to counter at my stage of training, one of them being the
 maintenance guy who had fastened some screws in the front gear a bit too
 hard which made control of rudder and steering wheel harder and much
 less precise. It makes a whole lot of a difference whether you can
 control the rudder with only small forces or whether you need to
 literally stump on the pedals to actually move them.
 
 And on Thursday we went to our training airodrome (landing fees there
 allow us to do ten times more landings for the same price as at our home
 base), did some coordination training (following curvy roads) as well as
 some navigation training in bad visibility, and then I did my first
 landing for that day, which was absolutely perfect! We did 8 landings in
 total and all of them were at least safe, even though not perfect in my
 mind (I expect my passengers not to know that we're on the ground again
 ;-) )
 
 In the break we did in between my instructor already babbled something
 about not letting me do a solo today yet, but there was something in
 that yet...
 
 On the following day, Friday, we went to that aerodrome again and I did
 3 landings, all of which were safe again. On the fourth landing my
 instructor added a little spice by simulating an engine failure for me
 to see that essentially that doesn't make a huge problem when you're
 almost on the runway and high enough. After that landing we taxied to
 the apron and he tried to assure me that we would have a short break
 now. He's a very talented actor, but I was already prepared and it
 seemed awkward to do a break after that few landings.
 
 He left the plane on the apron and then told me to do 3 or 4 landings
 solo. I don't need to tell you I was nervous as hell, however, somehow I
 didn't notice the forgetting how to fly effect others had told me of.
 
 I taxied to the taxi holding point, reported that I would taxi onto the
 runway and takeoff as soon as the recently-landed powered glider had
 left it. When the runway was clear, I went onto the runway, set flaps
 and full power and finally was on my first real solo takeoff run. Soon
 after the tires left the ground, the nervousness transformed into pure
 excitement.
 
 I can't say I was relaxed but I wasn't exactly tense either. The plane
 climbed like I'd never seen it climb before so I was on traffic circuit
 altitude already before turning crosswind. Suddenly I had so much time
 between leveling the plane and crossing abeam threshold (which is the
 point for starting descent in the procedure I've learnt) so I could
 really enjoy the view.
 
 In the second or third downwind I was flying the engine suddenly seemed
 to run lumpy, so I tried some of the standard procedures to check the
 engine I had learnt. Pulling carburetor heat (we had high humidity and
 16-17 degrees Celsius outside temperature), trying a different RPM, etc.
 I blame it on being alone in the plane for the first time, where one
 probably tends to hear ghosts, but there was nothing wrong with the engine.
 
 I just wanted to go on and on and on, but it was already near sunset so
 we had to return to our home base soon. After the fourth landing I
 parked the plane and my instructor came along showing thumbs up. We
 had a short break and then went home.
 
 The end of that flight was marked by the very first real-life landing in
 EDNY which I did totally on my own: No hands for my instructor ;-) As
 compared to the other typical traffic in EDNY we are relatively slow, we
 tend to do fast landings, coming to 50m aside the runway descending with
 about 140-160km/h and cruise power setting (normal approach speed is
 110km/h), do a relatively steep 

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15

2006-10-01 Thread Andy Ross
Martin Spott wrote:
  Andy Ross wrote:
   flying.toaster wrote:
Is there anywhere a list of work in progress just to avoid duplicates?
  
   Even if there were, the best advice would be to ignore it. :)
 
  Teamwork is not one of your favourites, is it !?  ;-)

In what way is refusing to work on a task in deference to someone
else who will never finish it teamwork?.  Teamwork requires
that people actual *do* what they claim to be doing.

This point was, I think, fairly well explained in the following
paragraph to which you conveniently did not reply. :)

Andy

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[Flightgear-devel] Schleicher ASK 21 glider in progress

2006-10-01 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi,

For some weeks ago, I began to model a glider, the
Schleicher ASK 21. A very well known glider, many
thousands are out there in the world.

Slowly I come to the end now: 
-the outermodel is to 95% ready
-the interior needs a bit more work

-the fligthtmodel is nice but it's need some work to.B

But nethertheless the ASK 21 is now quite flyable.

Where can I send it for CVS?

Some Pics:
www.hoerbird.de/bilder/fgfs.ask21.1
www.hoerbird.de/bilder/fgfs.ask21.2
www.hoerbird.de/bilder/fgfs.ask21.3
www.hoerbird.de/bilder/fgfs.ask21.4

Greetings
HHS






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[Flightgear-devel] (Open)Suse 10.1 specialists, please correct errors - new Wiki entry

2006-10-01 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Hi,
I would ask anybody on this list who is familiar with (Open)SUSE 10.1 to
have a look at a new tutorial I wrote for the FG wiki.
There was help for me from Craig and Sid and therefore it is fair that I
give something back to other newbees. But as I am a n00b too there might
be some errors in this article, so please look for things which are
obviously wrong and should be corrected. Thank you very much!

This is what I wrote to the FG users list:

Hi,

any newbee to (Open)SUSE 10.1 who is interested to get a tutorial how to
get a running CVS FlightGear compilation working should have a look at
the FG Wiki

http://hellosimon.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=OpenSUSE_10.1

This is how I prepared the OpenSuse 10.1 system, what programs and datas
are needed, where and how to get all and how to compile.

I started to work with OpenSuse seriously a short time ago and it took
me a lot of time and energy to learn all what is needed.
This tutorial should make life easier for other n00bs like me.

Any feedback/corrections are wellcome.
---

Regards
Georg HeliFlyer EDDW


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