Re: [Flightgear-devel] YaSim Aircraft not functional

2012-12-03 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hyde Yamakawa wrote

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 Already reported.
 
 http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=953
 
 
 (2012年12月02日 14:17), Detlef Faber wrote:
  Hi everybody,
 
  is anybody else seeing this?
 
  I notice since I compiled git yesterday, that YaSim fixed wing
  Aircraft don't work anymore (but Helicopters and JSBSim Aircraft do).
  FlightGear starts until the first Frames of the scenery get displayed,
  then quits with a SegFault.
 
  This happens with yesterdays compile of OSG, Simgear and FlightGear
  using the Debian/Ubuntu download and compile script. I tried on 3
  different Computers with nvidia and AMD Graphics A compile from last
  Saturday worked without Problem.
 

It's now Monday 3rd Dec, and I'm still seeing this bug here with current FG/SG

Vivian 



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] YaSim Aircraft not functional

2012-12-03 Thread Thomas Geymayer
Am 2012-12-03 09:36, schrieb Vivian Meazza:
 (2012年12月02日 14:17), Detlef Faber wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 is anybody else seeing this?

 I notice since I compiled git yesterday, that YaSim fixed wing
 Aircraft don't work anymore (but Helicopters and JSBSim Aircraft do).
 FlightGear starts until the first Frames of the scenery get displayed,
 then quits with a SegFault.

 This happens with yesterdays compile of OSG, Simgear and FlightGear
 using the Debian/Ubuntu download and compile script. I tried on 3
 different Computers with nvidia and AMD Graphics A compile from last
 Saturday worked without Problem.

 
 It's now Monday 3rd Dec, and I'm still seeing this bug here with current FG/SG

Should be fixed now.

Tom

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Musings on FG on Linux/Windows

2012-12-03 Thread ys
Hi Curt

Maybe these are two types of conferences now. One could be the WIFGH, the 
Weekly International FlightGear Hangout ;-) Or monthly ?

Another option I see now is probably a smaller european conference when I read 
about this idea at the forums. Maybe spring or summer 2013 is a possible 
schedule. The problems you mentioned about travelling etc. is serious, but when 
we are looking for some sponsorship for conference location and accomodation 
maybe it's doable? We could try to collect money to pay flights for developers 
who have a good setting for the project, but no money left for travelling now.

I will help to collect money and to organize such a meeting. I guess everyone 
has its prefs about location (see the forum post). I would recommend 
Switzerland of course, because James and Vivan can park their JU-52 here: 
http://www.airforcecenter.ch/index.php?id=25 , and because one could invite 
this guy http://www.rtw2012.com and he can not charge that much expenses . Or 
because the devs could visit this lab here http://www.sfly.org . Or because the 
Google Zurich Headquarters could sponsor an international video hangout in the 
nice old brewery they took. (They also took all the beer!).

But ... maybe you know it already, Switzerland is not in Europe unfortunately. 
Sad, we need to look for another location. (Ok when we go along family size and 
children, then I will win a location contest probably).

-Yves








Am 02.12.2012 um 14:35 schrieb Curtis Olson curtol...@flightgear.org:

 The FS Weekend event has been the closest thing to a developer conference 
 that we've had over the past few years.Our developers are dispersed 
 across the world so any event would involve significant travel for most 
 people.  For people with day jobs, young families, or tight budgets, 
 international travel can be a significant challenge.  Everyone is in a 
 slightly different situation though, so attending an event might be doable 
 for enough people to make it worth while?  With our size, it probably makes 
 sense to continue to piggy back on other larger events.
 
 Another thing that might be fun to try is a group skype call or google 
 hangout.  I think you have to pay money for the high end version of skype to 
 organize a group skype call, but google hangouts are free.  If there's any 
 interest in something like this it would be fun to try it out.  I could 
 imagine a weekly hangout to discuss issues of the week, future 
 developments, etc.
 
 When FlightGear was first launched in the late 90's, group email was the way 
 these things were done, but now we have more options.  For a google hangout 
 we have to deal with timezones around the world, and we'll never have a 
 perfectly convenient time for everyone.  If you've never used google hangouts 
 before, you have to download a plugin for your browser (which is available 
 for windows, mac, linux) and then you need a google+ account.  I propose 
 google hangouts because it's free to the end user (even though not 
 open-source), supports all the major platforms out there (and can even run on 
 smartphones or tablets), and as far as I know, there isn't an upper limit to 
 the number of participants in a hangout.
 
 But if anyone is interested in something like this, let's propose a time to 
 do a test.  I think for many people they'll need to spend some time messing 
 around getting the plugin installed, getting their mike and video to work (if 
 they wish to show their face) :-)  I got it running pretty quickly on linux, 
 but the true test was that I got it running on a mac and a windows box (which 
 means it can't be all that hard to get running there if I could do it.) :-)
 
 Curt.
 
 
 On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Olivier acom...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi Yves, all,
 
 De : HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch
 Envoyé le : Dimanche 2 décembre 2012 12h12
 
  My dream: FlightGear should held a developer meeting once next year. 
  This would be my all time favourite. Have there been such meetings once?
 At least there were thoughts about doing a FG Eurodev conference ( 
 http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18t=8337 ) after the 
 FSWeekend.
 
 FG is a very exciting project, where everyone can find a place where he can 
 contribute depending on his skills, interests, ... Maybe something we are 
 lacking is a kind of roadmap, so we can have a clearer view on the future.
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Musings on FG on Linux/Windows

2012-12-03 Thread TDO Brandano

The Blender coders organize a weekly IRC meeting ( #blendercoders on freenet), 
on Sundays at 16:00 CET, in order to discuss outstanding issues, project 
direction, and to generally work things out. Naturally, Blender is a different 
kind of project. It is backed by a foundation, which employs (on a salary) 
people for the sole purpose of developing Blender and managing external 
contributions, so even though the project is open source it has to find and 
manage funding and it has a well established organizative structure. I don't 
expect, nor want, for FlightGear to follow suit (though I imagine that if it 
gains a footing in commercial applications it will do so almost automatically). 
But since the blendercoders meetings are open to the general public as long as 
they don't make themselves a nuisance (you must be authenticated to have voice, 
but can attend unauthenticated to just follow the discussion), I'd suggest to 
anyone interested in self-organizing to attend to a couple of them to see how 
they handle things?

Regards,
Alessandro

From: flightg...@sablonier.ch
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:25:59 +0100
To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Musings on FG on Linux/Windows

Hi Curt
Maybe these are two types of conferences now. One could be the WIFGH, the 
Weekly International FlightGear Hangout ;-) Or monthly ?
Another option I see now is probably a smaller european conference when I read 
about this idea at the forums. Maybe spring or summer 2013 is a possible 
schedule. The problems you mentioned about travelling etc. is serious, but when 
we are looking for some sponsorship for conference location and accomodation 
maybe it's doable? We could try to collect money to pay flights for developers 
who have a good setting for the project, but no money left for travelling now.
I will help to collect money and to organize such a meeting. I guess everyone 
has its prefs about location (see the forum post). I would recommend 
Switzerland of course, because James and Vivan can park their JU-52 here: 
http://www.airforcecenter.ch/index.php?id=25 , and because one could invite 
this guy http://www.rtw2012.com and he can not charge that much expenses . Or 
because the devs could visit this lab here http://www.sfly.org . Or because the 
Google Zurich Headquarters could sponsor an international video hangout in the 
nice old brewery they took. (They also took all the beer!).
But ... maybe you know it already, Switzerland is not in Europe unfortunately. 
Sad, we need to look for another location. (Ok when we go along family size and 
children, then I will win a location contest probably).
-Yves







Am 02.12.2012 um 14:35 schrieb Curtis Olson curtol...@flightgear.org:

The FS Weekend event has been the closest thing to a developer conference that 
we've had over the past few years.Our developers are dispersed across the 
world so any event would involve significant travel for most people.  For 
people with day jobs, young families, or tight budgets, international travel 
can be a significant challenge.  Everyone is in a slightly different situation 
though, so attending an event might be doable for enough people to make it 
worth while?  With our size, it probably makes sense to continue to piggy back 
on other larger events.


Another thing that might be fun to try is a group skype call or google hangout. 
 I think you have to pay money for the high end version of skype to organize a 
group skype call, but google hangouts are free.  If there's any interest in 
something like this it would be fun to try it out.  I could imagine a weekly 
hangout to discuss issues of the week, future developments, etc.


When FlightGear was first launched in the late 90's, group email was the way 
these things were done, but now we have more options.  For a google hangout we 
have to deal with timezones around the world, and we'll never have a perfectly 
convenient time for everyone.  If you've never used google hangouts before, you 
have to download a plugin for your browser (which is available for windows, 
mac, linux) and then you need a google+ account.  I propose google hangouts 
because it's free to the end user (even though not open-source), supports all 
the major platforms out there (and can even run on smartphones or tablets), and 
as far as I know, there isn't an upper limit to the number of participants in a 
hangout.



But if anyone is interested in something like this, let's propose a time to do 
a test.  I think for many people they'll need to spend some time messing around 
getting the plugin installed, getting their mike and video to work (if they 
wish to show their face) :-)  I got it running pretty quickly on linux, but the 
true test was that I got it running on a mac and a windows box (which means it 
can't be all that hard to get running there if I could do it.) :-)


Curt.

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Olivier acom...@yahoo.com wrote:


Hi Yves, all,