Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10
James I am still seeing this crash, which I can cure by reverting the last GPS patch. I have removed just about everything from system.fgfsrc :- --fg-root=C:/FlightGear/fgdata --fg-scenery=C:\FlightGear\Terrasync;C:\FlightGear\Scenery --aircraft=Buccaneer --control=joystick and deleted the contents of C:/Users/Alan/AppData/Roaming/flightgear.org, but all to no avail. I am building with osg80 ,Boost_1_53_0 and 3rd part files from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC/ Are there any other reports of this?. I see it on my desktop and laptop machines. Occasionally fgfs starts normally. There is at least an 80% chance of failure. Alan From: Alan Teeder Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:34 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10 commit def81b4de5f87c28b5afd92264e40e66e4fd93e3 Author: James Turner Date: Mon May 27 22:56:12 2013 +0100 Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 With this patch fgfs crashes. All is OK when I revert it. The crash is about 80% repeatable, i.e. sometimes it runs, but mostly it does not. I have not tried a debug compilation. Here are the last few lines of fgfs.log :- general:3:C:\FlightGear\flightgear\src\Main\fg_init.cxx:774:Nasal init took:414 general:3:C:\FlightGear\flightgear\src\Time\TimeManager.cxx:354:After TimeManager::setTimeOffset(): warp = 9480 nasal:3:C:\FlightGear\flightgear\src\Scripting\NasalPositioned.cxx:1744:created Nasal delegate for 1CC43F30 nasal:3:C:\FlightGear\flightgear\src\Scripting\NasalPositioned.cxx:1744:created Nasal delegate for 1CC43F30 autopilot:3:C:\FlightGear\flightgear\src\Autopilot\route_mgr.cxx:762:route manager, current-wp is now -1 input:4:C:\FlightGear\simgear\simgear\structure\SGBinding.cxx:59:No command supplied for binding. input:4:C:\FlightGear\simgear\simgear\structure\SGBinding.cxx:59:No command supplied for binding. ai:3:C:\FlightGear\flightgear\src\AIModel\AIManager.cxx:157:loading scenario 'nimitz_demo' general:4:C:/FlightGear/install/msvc100/include\simgear/props/tiedpropertylist.hxx:60:Failed to tie property /ai[0]/models[0]/carrier[0]/controls[0]/constants[0]/rudder[0] general:4:C:/FlightGear/install/msvc100/include\simgear/props/tiedpropertylist.hxx:60:Failed to tie property /ai[0]/models[0]/carrier[1]/controls[0]/constants[0]/rudder[0] general:3:C:\FlightGear\flightgear\src\Main\fg_init.cxx:802:Subsystems postinit took:6 general:3:C:\FlightGear\flightgear\src\Main\fg_init.cxx:811: Windows 7 64 bit, MSVC10, 32bit build Alan -- Introducing AppDynamics Lite, a free troubleshooting tool for Java/.NET Get 100% visibility into your production application - at no cost. Code-level diagnostics for performance bottlenecks with 2% overhead Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10
On 1 Jun 2013, at 10:55, Alan Teeder ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk wrote: Are there any other reports of this?. I see it on my desktop and laptop machines. Occasionally fgfs starts normally. There is at least an 80% chance of failure. There's no other reports so far, I was hoping some other folks who use Windows would have reported any issues. I take it, it occurs relatively early on startup, so I shall try some runs using valgrind here, since it is very likely the problem is memory corruption. The commit in question actually fixes a couple of memory leaks (albeit benign ones), but there is presumably something else going on. I suppose you have done a rebuild from clean of FlightGear? I did change one type from being a dumb pointer to a smart-pointer, but since you are using VisualStudio it's unlikely the IDE would have failed to notice this when rebuilding. (don't worry about Boost / OSG, just FG itself) Regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10
Build Clean of simgear and fgfs seems to have cured the problem. 4 successful starts so far on the desktop. I will try now with the laptop. Time for a bit of Bill Gates bashing ? ;-) Thanks Alan -Original Message- From: James Turner Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 11:18 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10 On 1 Jun 2013, at 10:55, Alan Teeder ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk wrote: Are there any other reports of this?. I see it on my desktop and laptop machines. Occasionally fgfs starts normally. There is at least an 80% chance of failure. There's no other reports so far, I was hoping some other folks who use Windows would have reported any issues. I take it, it occurs relatively early on startup, so I shall try some runs using valgrind here, since it is very likely the problem is memory corruption. The commit in question actually fixes a couple of memory leaks (albeit benign ones), but there is presumably something else going on. I suppose you have done a rebuild from clean of FlightGear? I did change one type from being a dumb pointer to a smart-pointer, but since you are using VisualStudio it's unlikely the IDE would have failed to notice this when rebuilding. (don't worry about Boost / OSG, just FG itself) Regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] new team clone on gitorious.org specifically for download_and_compile.
On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:16:10 +0100 James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 1 Jun 2013, at 04:00, Pat pat.callah...@gmail.com wrote: I created a new team clone of fgmeta on gitorious. I'm a little confused by the need for the fgmeta clone - but of course delighted to have people working on the compile script. Why don't we simply add the script to the fg fgmeta repository and maintain it there? It's already in the fgmeta repository as version 1.9.4. Since I don't expect to get commit rights in the main tree, I created a team clone. I thought that might be the right way to do things. They're easy enough to get rid of if we don't need one. snip CMake superbuilds using fgmeta. snip That's one of the ideas being floated on the wiki. I'll do some reading on this and try to write it up for the wiki article on scripted compilation. -Pat I thought this might be appropriate: There is another system... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R6COGKX8ws -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10
Alan Sent: 01 June 2013 14:51 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10 Stop the celebrations. The laptop still has the fault after a clean build. AFAIK both computers have the same file layout and relevant environment/paths settings. My Bill Gates mannequin now has so many nails in it that it is hard to find space to hammer in a new one. Yup, FG crashes here with the latest pull of SG/FG on Win 7 x64 Vivian -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Updating Flightgear and Simgear Shared Builds
If a shared build of Flightgear and Simgear is done, and Simgear is updated, then does Flightgear need to be rebuilt? -- Saikrishna Arcot -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10
On 1 Jun 2013, at 16:20, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net wrote: Yup, FG crashes here with the latest pull of SG/FG on Win 7 x64 A bit of information would be useful since it's not crashing for me :) Alan provided a backtrace but it looks suspect to me, of course if it's memory corruption that may be expected, but I'd appreciate someone running 3-4 attempts and checking if the dump is mangled and different each time (likely memory corruption) or in the same place consistently (could still be memory corruption, but easier to track down). Regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Updating Flightgear and Simgear Shared Builds
On 1 Jun 2013, at 16:33, Saikrishna Arcot saiarcot...@gmail.com wrote: If a shared build of Flightgear and Simgear is done, and Simgear is updated, then does Flightgear need to be rebuilt? Technically, no, however the shared Simgear option exists originally as a help for developers (to reduce my linking times with fgfs when rebuilding). So while it ought to work, we've never explicitly made any guarantees in this area. Equally, I don't know of any technical reason it would be a problem (assuming simgear_config.h matches the build simgear library) Are you asking because you've tried and it doesn't work, or just being cautious? Regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Updating Flightgear and Simgear Shared Builds
I'm just being cautious. Currently, I'm rebuilding Flightgear after every Simgear update, but if it's not necessary, then I can get rid of a rebuild. Using ldd, it does seem that it's considering Simgear as a dependency, so it seems safe to not do a rebuild. Saikrishna Arcot On Sat 01 Jun 2013 11:30:45 AM CDT, James Turner wrote: On 1 Jun 2013, at 16:33, Saikrishna Arcot saiarcot...@gmail.com wrote: If a shared build of Flightgear and Simgear is done, and Simgear is updated, then does Flightgear need to be rebuilt? Technically, no, however the shared Simgear option exists originally as a help for developers (to reduce my linking times with fgfs when rebuilding). So while it ought to work, we've never explicitly made any guarantees in this area. Equally, I don't know of any technical reason it would be a problem (assuming simgear_config.h matches the build simgear library) Are you asking because you've tried and it doesn't work, or just being cautious? Regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10
It is consistent every time, and across machines. Windows debugger points to an opengl error, but AFAIK, that is not what you have modified? -Original Message- From: James Turner Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 5:28 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10 On 1 Jun 2013, at 16:20, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net wrote: Yup, FG crashes here with the latest pull of SG/FG on Win 7 x64 A bit of information would be useful since it's not crashing for me :) Alan provided a backtrace but it looks suspect to me, of course if it's memory corruption that may be expected, but I'd appreciate someone running 3-4 attempts and checking if the dump is mangled and different each time (likely memory corruption) or in the same place consistently (could still be memory corruption, but easier to track down). Regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10
James Sent: 01 June 2013 17:28 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10 On 1 Jun 2013, at 16:20, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net wrote: Yup, FG crashes here with the latest pull of SG/FG on Win 7 x64 A bit of information would be useful since it's not crashing for me :) Alan provided a backtrace but it looks suspect to me, of course if it's memory corruption that may be expected, but I'd appreciate someone running 3-4 attempts and checking if the dump is mangled and different each time (likely memory corruption) or in the same place consistently (could still be memory corruption, but easier to track down). OK - so far I've identified that the cause is one of the 2 GPS related commits - reverting both solves the problem. Vivian -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Restore GPS compatibility with 2.10 - MSVC10
On 1 Jun 2013, at 17:52, Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net wrote: OK - so far I've identified that the cause is one of the 2 GPS related commits - reverting both solves the problem. Right, Alan already worked out the relevant commit, the problem is the commit in question mostly restores code that's existed since 2.6 (With some edits of course, nothing is ever that simple). So I can't simply revert the commit, I need a bit more investigation by people affected to narrow down where I should be looking. I've already eyeballed the diffs and nothing obvious is jumping out at me, but that's often the way when reviewing one's own code :) If someone on Linux could do a valgrind run of start-up, that might help, alas valgrind is not co-operating on Mac today and the Mac leak tools and heap-debugger aren't detecting anything anomalous. Regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] getstart autogeneration on mapserver stopping to work?
Oliver, Thanks for your commit to git repository. It solved tex compile error on my machine (Tex Live on cygwin), however the manual on mapserver has still not be updated. Martin, could you please investigate what is the problem on mapserver? Here I'll summarize my think about the getstart problem on map server. (1) Current html version in http://mapserver.flightgear.org/getstart/ was generated on mapserver on February 16, 2013. Howerver, tex compilation seems to be stopped at 8.10 The autopilot. This issue was caused by an incorrect weblong usage on Feb. 16 in http://gitorious.org/fg/getstart/commit/4bb44e69eead605fd626a83e7535640b9ad908ce, and was fixed on Feb. 17 in http://gitorious.org/fg/getstart/commit/2c00caf3d7f00d69e02b0c6f3ed0c1903763e3d1. However, the manual on mapserver has not be updated until now. (2) Current pdf version in http://mapserver.flightgear.org/getstart.pdf was generated on mapserver on February 12, 2013. Probably, it will be updated when the autogeneration issue for html version is fixed on mapserver. Cheers, toshi -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
