[Flightgear-devel] New idea for flightgear

2013-06-23 Thread Ashirwada Wijerathna
Dear sir/madam

I am a great fan of flightgear. I would like to point out that crashes in
flightgear is not simulated. so add simulated crashes in the next
flightgear version.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved Scenery Data Question

2013-06-23 Thread default
Hi John:

snip
I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions on getting this data into 
the system so users can start flying over it.
snip

I maintain a mirror for flightgear.  (ftp://ftp.kingmont.com and 
http://kingmont.com)

You might try contacting Curtis and see how you would go about putting 
some of your stuff up on that site!  You would be welcome to use it as 
far as I'm concerned  (I don't fool with it except to pay the bill! grin).

jj


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[Flightgear-devel] Positioning Aircraft: accuracy

2013-06-23 Thread D-NXKT
Hello,

I noticed that positioning an aircraft at FG startup with --lon= and
lat= has only a limited accuracy. It seems that only the first 7 digits
are read. This leads to an uncertainty of several meters/feet!
For example lon=11.379070 --lat=47.306263 is needed to place our hang
glider directly in front of the ramp (LOWI-Scenery). Unfortunately the
hang glider pops up several meters right of the ramp. I found out that
FG internally uses this (rounded) values: --lon=11.3791 --lat=47.3063.
Same issue with input via the Menu Location/Position Aircraft In Air.
Only positioning via the property browser leads to exact results.
Maybe someone could fix this at the next opportunity?!

Thanks in advance
D-NXKT 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Positioning Aircraft: accuracy

2013-06-23 Thread Thomas Geymayer
Hi,

Am 2013-06-23 22:27, schrieb D-NXKT:
 I noticed that positioning an aircraft at FG startup with --lon= and 
 lat= has only a limited accuracy. It seems that only the first 7
 digits are read. This leads to an uncertainty of several
 meters/feet! For example lon=11.379070 --lat=47.306263 is needed to
 place our hang glider directly in front of the ramp (LOWI-Scenery).
 Unfortunately the hang glider pops up several meters right of the
 ramp. I found out that FG internally uses this (rounded) values:
 --lon=11.3791 --lat=47.3063.

How have you checked these values? I've just tried it myself and in the
property browser exactly the same values appear.

 Same issue with input via the Menu Location/Position Aircraft In
 Air.

Here by default values are shown with four decimal places, but also
values with higher precision are accepted.

 Only positioning via the property browser leads to exact results.

Maybe you are using an operating system with a low precision atof? In
the property browser strtod is used to convert the number whereas for
the dialog and arguments atof is used.

Tom

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Positioning Aircraft: accuracy

2013-06-23 Thread D-NXKT
Hi Tom,

 How have you checked these values? I've just tried it myself and in 
 the property browser exactly the same values appear.

I started FG with 
--lon=11.379070
--lat=47.306263
--heading=155
--units-meters
--on-ground
and found me at --lon=11.3791 --lat=47.3063.
Manual input in the property browser moved me to the correct position.

 Maybe you are using an operating system with a low precision atof? In
 the property browser strtod is used to convert the number whereas for
 the dialog and arguments atof is used.

I'm using Suse 12.3 64bit.
How can I check the atof precision?

Thanks for the quick response
D-NXKT

  



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] New idea for flightgear

2013-06-23 Thread Alex D-HUND
Hi Ashirwada,

this feature is implemented but disabled by default in FG's source code.
To enable it, if you really want that (think twice), edit file
src/AIModel/AIMultiplayer.cxx and alter the false to true in
 FGAIMultiplayer::FGAIMultiplayer() :
FGAIBase(otMultiplayer, false)

This action, of course, requires FG to be recompiled.

hth
Alex



 Dear sir/madam
 
 I am a great fan of flightgear. I would like to point out that
 crashes in flightgear is not simulated. so add simulated crashes in
 the next flightgear version.
 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Positioning Aircraft: accuracy

2013-06-23 Thread D-NXKT
Hmm, everything is fine if I use a different plane. Seems to be a hang
glider specific problem. 
Monitoring the latitude and longitude variabel from the very beginning
shows, that both variables have at first indeed the correct values. Then
the latitude value suddenly jumps from 47.306263 to 47.306206.

Sorry for the noise.

Best regards 
D-NXKT



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Positioning Aircraft: accuracy

2013-06-23 Thread Curtis Olson
The hang glider is using the UIUC fdm, right?  Perhaps that is using a
float (6-7 digits of precision) to represent it's initial conditions ... or
somewhere in the startup pipeline or the flightgear interface to the uiuc
model, the initial lon/lat is stored as a float?


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:27 PM, D-NXKT d_n...@yahoo.de wrote:

 Hmm, everything is fine if I use a different plane. Seems to be a hang
 glider specific problem.
 Monitoring the latitude and longitude variabel from the very beginning
 shows, that both variables have at first indeed the correct values. Then
 the latitude value suddenly jumps from 47.306263 to 47.306206.

 Sorry for the noise.

 Best regards
 D-NXKT




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