Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
On the risk of making myself really unpopular, but would now be a good time to defer the release? It seems James is caught in the middle of moving, Stuart indicated some other private things piling up, I have the maddest travelling schedule I've ever had in my life this fall, and I haven't seen a number of other folks around for a while, we don't have release candidates out which will have impacts on bugfixes, assuming there'd be anyone around capable of doing bugfixes,... It seems we've hit a fluctuation where pretty much everyone is occupied with something else at the moment (?) - if that's the case, should we still go ahead? * Thorsten -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
On 13 Aug 2013, at 12:58, Renk Thorsten thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: On the risk of making myself really unpopular, but would now be a good time to defer the release? It seems James is caught in the middle of moving, Stuart indicated some other private things piling up, I have the maddest travelling schedule I've ever had in my life this fall, and I haven't seen a number of other folks around for a while, we don't have release candidates out which will have impacts on bugfixes, assuming there'd be anyone around capable of doing bugfixes,... It seems we've hit a fluctuation where pretty much everyone is occupied with something else at the moment (?) - if that's the case, should we still go ahead? That's possibly a fair suggestion. I am scheduled to get my new broadband connection up and running tomorrow (Wednesday) so the Mac build slave will be available at that time (with decent upstream bandwidth again). However my time is a bit fragmented and likely to remain so for a few weeks - I'm happy to merge patches or anything else anyone explicitly requests, but I'm not focused enough to start chasing other people to get things done :) Once the Mac build slave is back, the biggest obstacle to an RC is getting the Windows build slaves to behave; if anyone on Windows could look at the Jenkins logs and shed any light, it would help. Kind regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
We would need permission from Torsten D, our release manager, but I would also second Thorsten R's proposal to defer the 2.12 release by a week or two. I have been spread very thin this summer with my day job projects and will be out of town myself on the 16-18 of August. I think we should at minimum get the Mac and Windows build slaves going, generate release candidates for both platforms, and push those out in the wild for a week (and address any major issues that surface) before finalizing the actual release. I apologize for not being more out in front of this ... this has been the summer from hell (work-wise) for me. Regards, Curt. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:24 AM, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 13 Aug 2013, at 12:58, Renk Thorsten thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: On the risk of making myself really unpopular, but would now be a good time to defer the release? It seems James is caught in the middle of moving, Stuart indicated some other private things piling up, I have the maddest travelling schedule I've ever had in my life this fall, and I haven't seen a number of other folks around for a while, we don't have release candidates out which will have impacts on bugfixes, assuming there'd be anyone around capable of doing bugfixes,... It seems we've hit a fluctuation where pretty much everyone is occupied with something else at the moment (?) - if that's the case, should we still go ahead? That's possibly a fair suggestion. I am scheduled to get my new broadband connection up and running tomorrow (Wednesday) so the Mac build slave will be available at that time (with decent upstream bandwidth again). However my time is a bit fragmented and likely to remain so for a few weeks - I'm happy to merge patches or anything else anyone explicitly requests, but I'm not focused enough to start chasing other people to get things done :) Once the Mac build slave is back, the biggest obstacle to an RC is getting the Windows build slaves to behave; if anyone on Windows could look at the Jenkins logs and shed any light, it would help. Kind regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
Permission granted ;-) As everybody seems to be caught in some real life trouble, I can't see a better way to get the release out than delaying it for a while. Would two weeks be enough for everybody? That will get us to the weekend Aug, 31/Sep 1. Torsten Am 13.08.2013 16:56, schrieb Curtis Olson: We would need permission from Torsten D, our release manager, but I would also second Thorsten R's proposal to defer the 2.12 release by a week or two. I have been spread very thin this summer with my day job projects and will be out of town myself on the 16-18 of August. I think we should at minimum get the Mac and Windows build slaves going, generate release candidates for both platforms, and push those out in the wild for a week (and address any major issues that surface) before finalizing the actual release. I apologize for not being more out in front of this ... this has been the summer from hell (work-wise) for me. Regards, Curt. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:24 AM, James Turner zakal...@mac.com mailto:zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 13 Aug 2013, at 12:58, Renk Thorsten thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi mailto:thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: On the risk of making myself really unpopular, but would now be a good time to defer the release? It seems James is caught in the middle of moving, Stuart indicated some other private things piling up, I have the maddest travelling schedule I've ever had in my life this fall, and I haven't seen a number of other folks around for a while, we don't have release candidates out which will have impacts on bugfixes, assuming there'd be anyone around capable of doing bugfixes,... It seems we've hit a fluctuation where pretty much everyone is occupied with something else at the moment (?) - if that's the case, should we still go ahead? That's possibly a fair suggestion. I am scheduled to get my new broadband connection up and running tomorrow (Wednesday) so the Mac build slave will be available at that time (with decent upstream bandwidth again). However my time is a bit fragmented and likely to remain so for a few weeks - I'm happy to merge patches or anything else anyone explicitly requests, but I'm not focused enough to start chasing other people to get things done :) Once the Mac build slave is back, the biggest obstacle to an RC is getting the Windows build slaves to behave; if anyone on Windows could look at the Jenkins logs and shed any light, it would help. Kind regards, James -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com http://www.atiak.com/ - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/ http://www.flightgear.org http://www.flightgear.org/ - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org http://gallinazo.flightgear.org/ -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Permission granted ;-) As everybody seems to be caught in some real life trouble, I can't see a better way to get the release out than delaying it for a while. Would two weeks be enough for everybody? That will get us to the weekend Aug, 31/Sep 1. I propose pushing out the release by a month. I've got a bit more time available for FG right now, but not as much as I did 12 months ago, and it sounds like James and Thorsten R are similarly time limited. I think it will take longer than usual to address any issues found in the RCs. If we are going to slip the release, we should only do so once :) -Stuart -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
snip If we are going to slip the release, we should only do so once :) -Stuart One reschedule is a good idea. Would an indefinite delay, with a promise republishing the schedule by a given date be appropriate or desirable? For example Due to constraints on our developers' available time, we are rescheduling the release of the next version of our highly successful All in One Integrated Development Environment and Espresso Machine* We expect to have a revised schedule by the second Tuesday of next week -Pat *We're not sure about your code, but your coffee will be worthy of poetry! -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
