Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-08 Thread Robin van Steenbergen
  Op 7-11-2010 21:14, Durk Talsma schreef
> - Gijs and Jorg trying to outperform each other in terms of their helicopter 
> flying skills (trying to land it on a chimney, once they found the helipad to 
> easy).
Were the choppers loaded with presents and were they wearing red robes 
and a funny hat, by any chance? =)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:11:47 +0100, fiers...@zonnet.nl wrote in message 
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> It is a pity, people always find ways to nick stuff...

..I seriously doubt nicking the 3D filter glasses was 
an intention, but the tradition on such business fairs 
and trade shows, is indeed to hand out similar cheap 
things, as gifts. 

..so we must either factor in that cost next time, or, 
come up with better ideas.

..maybe put these 3D filter glasses on strings and have 
FG check the "stand guest pilot for 3D glasses or not?" 
and use that to control FG's view modes?

..another 3D Mode idea, is use a coupla web cameras to 
track the pilot's eyes, and use the eye positions to 
control FG's "view holes into the simulated world."

> Do you need me to chip in some euro's to compensate?


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-08 Thread Martin Spott
fiers...@zonnet.nl wrote:
> Op 08-11-10 14:21, Martin Spott schreef:

>> While we're at it, I'd like to remind that these impressive multi-
>> screen setups, which we (the respective booth crews) have been proud to
>> present on various FSweekend and LinuxTag shows over the past four (!)
>> years - in continuously increasing size - would have been completely
>> impossible without the firm belief and the work of those who initially
>> made FlightGear-on-OpenSceneGraph actually happen.
>>
>>
> 
> And Linux, by the way...

According to your response I suspect I'm supposed to having mentioned
our parents as well   !?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-08 Thread fierst42
Op 08-11-10 14:21, Martin Spott schreef:
> While we're at it, I'd like to remind that these impressive multi-
> screen setups, which we (the respective booth crews) have been proud to
> present on various FSweekend and LinuxTag shows over the past four (!)
> years - in continuously increasing size - would have been completely
> impossible without the firm belief and the work of those who initially
> made FlightGear-on-OpenSceneGraph actually happen.
>
>

And Linux, by the way...

It is a pity, people always find ways to nick stuff... Do you need me to 
chip in some euro's to compensate?


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 11:47:50 +0100, Torsten wrote in message 
<201011081147.50907.tors...@t3r.de>:

> > Some assorted highlights include:
> [..]
> > 
> > - Some people just not believing that a single machine could drive
> > 10 monitors and actively checking where all the monitor cables
> > actually went to.
> There was actually one guy who thought we were cheating and moved all
> around our installation to find a hidden computer somewhere. He even
> went down to his knees, crawled hither and thither and took pictures
> from the machine from nearly every angle. He traced the monitor
> cables, counted the DVI connectors and still suspected two computers
> within the big chassis. I had to open the cabinet for him which I
> think finally convinced him. Sidenote: There is still the unused
> onboard Matrox card providing an analog VGA port...

..now there's a challenge; X.org has the mga driver, 
Matrox has these:
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/drivers/
Tell us about the hardware.

> > - The end challenge of all our booth members trying to distract me
> > while performing an aircraft carrier landing (I'll leave it up to
> > your own assesment as to whether I failed or whether they
> > failed. :-)
> I have to admit, not even a simulated "ejection seat" distracted Durk
> from performing a perfect carrier landing. Well done!

..hear, hear! :o)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-08 Thread Martin Spott
Durk Talsma wrote:

> - Some people just not believing that a single machine could drive 10
>   monitors and actively checking where all the monitor cables
>   actually went to.

While we're at it, I'd like to remind that these impressive multi-
screen setups, which we (the respective booth crews) have been proud to
present on various FSweekend and LinuxTag shows over the past four (!)
years - in continuously increasing size - would have been completely
impossible without the firm belief and the work of those who initially
made FlightGear-on-OpenSceneGraph actually happen.

Many thanks, guys !!

> - The end challenge of all our booth members trying to distract me
>   while performing an aircraft carrier landing (I'll leave it up to
>   your own assesment as to whether I failed or whether they failed. 

Indeed, well done, Durk !

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-08 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Just to add a few more details:
> Not only did it draw a lot of
>  people to our booth who wanted to check it out, handing out 3D glasses
>  also worked as an extremely good vehicle to start a conversation with
>  people.
Some visitors must have liked what they saw so much, that they probably forgot 
to remove the 3D glasses from their nose when leaving the booth. That way five 
pairs of my 3D glasses found a new home. I hope, they take this as an 
oppertunity to uninstall MSFS and only use FlightGear from now on!
> 
> Some assorted highlights include:
[..]
> 
> - Some people just not believing that a single machine could drive 10
>  monitors and actively checking where all the monitor cables actually went
>  to.
There was actually one guy who thought we were cheating and moved all around 
our installation to find a hidden computer somewhere. He even went down to his 
knees, crawled hither and thither and took pictures from the machine from 
nearly every angle. He traced the monitor cables, counted the DVI connectors 
and still suspected two computers within the big chassis. I had to open the 
cabinet for him which I think finally convinced him.
Sidenote: There is still the unused onboard Matrox card providing an analog 
VGA port...
> - The end challenge of all our booth members trying to distract me while
>  performing an aircraft carrier landing (I'll leave it up to your own
>  assesment as to whether I failed or whether they failed. :-)
I have to admit, not even a simulated "ejection seat" distracted Durk from 
performing a perfect carrier landing. Well done!


Torsten

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-07 Thread fierst42
That sounds absolutely great! What a pity I was unable to be there.

It sounds like you all have done a great job in promoting flightgear and 
open source in general.

Thanks.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-07 Thread Martin Spott
Durk Talsma wrote:

> Dear list,

We want pictures !!  ;-)

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[Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend2010

2010-11-07 Thread Durk Talsma
Dear list,

FSweekend came and went by. The event was over before I even realized it. 
Although I was initially skeptical as to whether  we would be able to top last 
year's presentation, we did so, by quite a large margin. Main attractions this 
year were our Thomas-Krenn sponsored server, driving 10 monitors, and our near 
continuous use of anaglyphic 3D. Although I had considered it to be a neat 
gadget, running flightgear in 3D analglyphic mode turned out to be a brilliant 
move. Not only did it draw a lot of people to our booth who wanted to check it 
out, handing out 3D glasses also worked as an extremely good vehicle to start a 
conversation with people. 

Some assorted highlights include: 

- Our Thomas-Krenn AG machine has been running for 8 hours straight, on both 
days, without a single glitch. At one point Torsten ran out of fuel, because he 
hadn't realized that FlightGear had been running for so long continuously. The 
machine ran in three 3D mode most of the time, and the way the screens were set 
up gave the impression that the were just holes in a wall though which you 
could see a (virtual) reality known as FlightGear. Very nicely done. 

- Very positive comments on the Lockheed Constellation's artwork, particularly 
because that model is really shining when presented in 3D (probably the best 
cockpit we have for a 3D demo). 

- Also very postive comments on the advance copy of the 737NG (800) that Innis 
Cunningham sent me. Also in particular due to the fact that the switches on the 
overhead panel looks very real in 3D.

- Gijs and Jorg trying to outperform each other in terms of their helicopter 
flying skills (trying to land it on a chimney, once they found the helipad to 
easy).

- A number of people claiming that our booth was the best one at FSWeekend this 
year. 

- Our aerotowing demo involving all of our major demonstration machines (my 
machine as the glider, Jorg's computer as the tow plane, and our sponsor's 
machine as a joint (3D) model viewer. 

- Some people just not believing that a single machine could drive 10 monitors 
and actively checking where all the monitor cables actually went to. 

- Another opportunity to meet FlightGear developers (one expected encounter: 
Geoff McLane, and one totally unexpected meeting with Thorsten Brehm). Thanks 
guys for showing up! 

- The end challenge of all our booth members trying to distract me while 
performing an aircraft carrier landing (I'll leave it up to your own assesment 
as to whether I failed or whether they failed. :-)

And last, but not least, everybody involved in getting this year's booth 
organized. It's been a lot of fun.

Cheers,
Durk
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