Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-13 Thread Michael Sgier
Beautiful. If it would approach projects like: 
http://sirx.flightsimulatorcenter.com/
I would be pro. What about FPS? Didn't test that so far.


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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news
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Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:40 PM

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Looking at their next post
(http://outerra.blogspot.com/2010/06/dirt-roads.html) I wonder if it
wouldn't be better to team up and use Outerra for ground visualisation...

Melchior FRANZ schrieb:
 http://outerra.blogspot.com/2010/05/integrating-vector-data-roads.html
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
Hi David,

David Megginson wrote:

 Maybe we should consider moving to a different OpenSource scenery
 package.

I'd be happy to read a more elaborate statement of what you're having
in mind. What is the term scenery package supposed to mean ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
Peter Morgan wrote:

 Is there a begginers guide ?

There's a couple of TerraGear-related articles on The Wiki - plus the
source code an included comments.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-06 Thread David Megginson
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote:

 Maybe we should consider moving to a different OpenSource scenery
 package.

 I'd be happy to read a more elaborate statement of what you're having
 in mind. What is the term scenery package supposed to mean ?

An Open-Source package including scenery-generation tools and a
scenery-rendering library.  Our biggest challenge, I think, would be
finding one that supported atmospheric rendering (weather, etc.) as
well as terrain.


All the best,


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Martin Spott wrote:

 I'd be happy to read a more elaborate statement of what you're having
 in mind. What is the term scenery package supposed to mean ?
 
 An Open-Source package including scenery-generation tools and a
 scenery-rendering library.  Our biggest challenge, I think, would be
 finding one that supported atmospheric rendering (weather, etc.) as
 well as terrain.

I see, but I'm a uncertain if such an all-embracing package really
exists - especially one which is capable of fulfilling all of
FlightGear's assorted corner-case requirements.

Those packages _I_ am aware of are employing different ways of
aggregating various tasks - tasks which are in some way currently
handled separately in FlightGear - around an OpenSceneGraph core or
-derivative (Delta3D, OpenEaagles, ossimPlanet or the like). But they
still expect you to prepare and fill the respective 'ingredients'
yourself.
Are you having some specific package in mind ?

Therefore our plan on the Sceney _generation_ end has been to
disassemble the various steps, which are currently accumulated in the
'fgfs-construct' binary, into individual pieces, thus allowing us to be
prepared for feeding whichever file format and rendering pipeline
FlightGear might use in the future   ;-)

Best regards,
Martin.
P.S.: BTW, FlightGear's development history has shown that you're
  likely going to be considered as being an ignorant bastard if
  you're not taking care of even the smallest niche feature - even
  during a transition period 
  Therefore I think that a pretty clever strategy should be
  developed prior to touching any of FlightGear's core features  ;-)
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-05 Thread David Megginson
Maybe we should consider moving to a different OpenSource scenery
package.  Nothing met our needs in the late 1990s, but I'm sure
they've progressed since then.


David

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Peter Morgan p...@freeflightsim.org wrote:
 Is there a begginers guide ?
 I've been down this path before got stuck with terra and some
 sgrequirement.. never worked..
 pete

 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net
 wrote:

 Gene Buckle wrote:

  That is just amazing.  TerraGear should do that. :)

 Everyone's invited to contribute  ;-)

   http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=terragear-cs

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[Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
http://outerra.blogspot.com/2010/05/integrating-vector-data-roads.html

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-04 Thread Gene Buckle
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Melchior FRANZ wrote:

 http://outerra.blogspot.com/2010/05/integrating-vector-data-roads.html

That is just amazing.  TerraGear should do that. :)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message 
alpine.lfd.2.00.1006041240200.29...@grumble.deltasoft.com:

 On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 
  http://outerra.blogspot.com/2010/05/integrating-vector-data-roads.html
 
 That is just amazing.  TerraGear should do that. :)

..with a yellow center stripe, these pix could pass as RL pix 
of Norwegian roads 20 years ago, they are too worn now. ;o)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-04 Thread Martin Spott
Gene Buckle wrote:

 That is just amazing.  TerraGear should do that. :)

Everyone's invited to contribute  ;-)

   http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=terragear-cs

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-04 Thread Peter Morgan
Is there a begginers guide ?

I've been down this path before got stuck with terra and some
sgrequirement.. never worked..

pete

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.netwrote:

 Gene Buckle wrote:

  That is just amazing.  TerraGear should do that. :)

 Everyone's invited to contribute  ;-)

   http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=terragear-cs

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news

2010-06-04 Thread Victhor
That seems to be a dead end for my GeForce 6150. I have to replace it
asap, should have done it a long time ago :)
 Is there a begginers guide ?
 
 
 I've been down this path before got stuck with terra and some
 sgrequirement.. never worked..
 
 
 pete
 
 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net
 wrote:
 Gene Buckle wrote:
 
  That is just amazing.  TerraGear should do that. :)
 
 
 Everyone's invited to contribute  ;-)
 
   http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=terragear-cs
 
 Cheers,
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