Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On Dec 14, 2007 6:43 AM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. I have updated the gallery page one more time this morning: http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/ Please check it out and let me know if anyone has any further comments or suggestions. We probably have too many pictures there so if something just isn't quite to the quality of the others, it probalby doesn't hurt to just remove it. (I haven't thought about where to put movies ... has anyone searched for flightgear or flight gear on youtube, there are a bazillion of them over there ...) Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Heiko, I am trying to collect screen shots today, but I can't get through to your site or any of your links. If you'd like some of you images considered for the gallary page, please send them to me directly. Gerard, AJ, Torsten, and everyone else who'd posted pictures to this thread: I believe I've been able to snag your pictures. Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Am Freitag, den 14.12.2007, 13:43 +0100 schrieb Melchior FRANZ: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. [...] I've got some too, hope I'm not too late. http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-approach1.jpg http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-approach-2.jpg http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-final.jpg http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-on-carrier.jpg http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-elevator.jpg -- Detlef Faber http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
--- Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: * Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 17 December 2007: Just now (!!!) remembering Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick (!!!) which is pretty similar: Yes, it's clearly a job for Maik's winch/anchor feature. He has already lifted me via MP: I was in a sgs233, and Maik lifted me with a bo105. There's just no visible rope (yet). m. That's what we want- and lifting objects non-mp! How does it works? Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html __ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den schönsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On lun 17 décembre 2007, Detlef Faber wrote: Am Freitag, den 14.12.2007, 13:43 +0100 schrieb Melchior FRANZ: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. [...] I've got some too, hope I'm not too late. http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-approach1.jpg http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-approach-2.jpg http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-final.jpg http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-on-carrier.jpg http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/f4u-elevator.jpg Great shots, and i guess great landing. what a pity, it is on the Nimitz :) You demonstrate clearly i must continue to work on the straight deck Carrier here with the French Corsair http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Arromanches_F4U-7_p1.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Arromanches_F4U-7_p5.jpg -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On lun 17 décembre 2007, Georg Vollnhals wrote: gerard robin schrieb: You are right, the Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick is a very good example. I must take time to look at it. Good idea :) I only need more free time. Cheers Sorry, I forgot you are a Nasal specialist, too :-) This gives even more hope - nobody expects it to be finished within the next weeks. Georg No, i am not a specialist, i write Nasal like i wrote Cobol :) Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 17 December 2007: it's clearly a job for Maik's winch/anchor feature. Looks like this doesn't work. As far as I've understood, it only offers: pulled or pulling aircraft via MP, getting pulled by an AI aircraft, or a static winch. I haven't found a way to pull objects, or code that would calculate location of and forces by a load swinging on a rope. Well, at least I have an animated rope now ... :-} m. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On lun 17 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote: In order to give an easy access to the snapshots (if useful) which could be used for FG 1.0, i have built a summary (sorry no thumbnail, missing space) Here the link http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux The last addition is the http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/S-51-on_carrier.jpg Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Hi, Melchior FRANZ schrieb am 17.12.2007 02:18: * Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 17 December 2007: Just now (!!!) remembering Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick (!!!) which is pretty similar: Yes, it's clearly a job for Maik's winch/anchor feature. He has already lifted me via MP: I was in a sgs233, and Maik lifted me with a bo105. There's just no visible rope (yet). Can an external force be added to the AIBallistic Objects? Maik - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Maik Justus schrieb: Hi, Melchior FRANZ schrieb am 17.12.2007 02:18: * Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 17 December 2007: Just now (!!!) remembering Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick (!!!) which is pretty similar: Yes, it's clearly a job for Maik's winch/anchor feature. He has already lifted me via MP: I was in a sgs233, and Maik lifted me with a bo105. There's just no visible rope (yet). Can an external force be added to the AIBallistic Objects? Maik This looks for me as if you want to do it in an even more perfect way, considering the influence of different forces on the connected object (and also on the winching aircraft/helicopter)? I hope so and keep my fingers crossed for you. Georg - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Maik wrote us Sent: 17 December 2007 19:31 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots) Hi, Melchior FRANZ schrieb am 17.12.2007 02:18: * Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 17 December 2007: Just now (!!!) remembering Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick (!!!) which is pretty similar: Yes, it's clearly a job for Maik's winch/anchor feature. He has already lifted me via MP: I was in a sgs233, and Maik lifted me with a bo105. There's just no visible rope (yet). Can an external force be added to the AIBallistic Objects? I don't see why not. Just designing on the back of an envelope - we already have one - wind. So in principle we add something like another wind. Not in the next few days though. Vivian - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On Friday 14 December 2007 13:43, Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... Okay, here are a few additional contributions: http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/b1900d-panel.jpg http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/camel-ksfo.jpg http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/ksfo-ai.jpg http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/FlightGear/seneca-flash.jpg Cheers, Durk - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Csaba Halász wrote: On Dec 16, 2007 12:39 AM, alexis bory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if this can help AnMaster, pictures marked from 0 to 3 from http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/ Okay, I'll just list the ones I graded with a 3 ;) A-10-KNID-01.png (the rwy edge is somewhat jagged, is that really antialiased?) Yes it is. I don't know why the edge looks like that. A-6E-Nimitz-01.png (wouldn't mind if the Nimitz was a little closer) Well the water texture attached to the Nimitz is quite low res, if I'm closer it looks jagged around the edges. Seahawk-Foch-01.png Seahawk-SeaVixen-Nimitz-01.png V22-Osprey-KSFO-01.png (definitely need a picture of V22, this is the better of the two) dhc2F-CYDL-02.png (I'd welcome a nicer background scenery though) dhc2F-CYDL-07.png (I love this one: the lighting, the mountains, and the star/planet) Thanks Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZQckWmK6ng/aMNkRCmVGAJ4kviFMo4X/g6Lmaz5e78MYz7fpTgCeJrF9 29CpdjvoopCja6zchNiUPmg= =1gYL -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
I have one, too http://www.t3r.de/fg/screenshots/Seneca-SingleEngineApproachEDHL.jpg showing a single engine approach with the SenecaII. Left engine is dead, prop feathered. For the perfect aviator, there is a lot to complain about this image: - above glideslope - to fast - rate of descent to high But for the anxious: the pilot is still alive and had a safe landing ;) I hope you like it. BTW: would it be a good idea to create a screenshot area in the wiki, or would that blow up the database and the disk space on the server? We have now half a dozen of locations for screenshots and its hard to keep track of them all. Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
--- Torsten Dreyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I have one, too http://www.t3r.de/fg/screenshots/Seneca-SingleEngineApproachEDHL.jpg showing a single engine approach with the SenecaII. Left engine is dead, prop feathered. For the perfect aviator, there is a lot to complain about this image: - above glideslope - to fast - rate of descent to high But for the anxious: the pilot is still alive and had a safe landing ;) I hope you like it. BTW: would it be a good idea to create a screenshot area in the wiki, or would that blow up the database and the disk space on the server? We have now half a dozen of locations for screenshots and its hard to keep track of them all. Torsten Hi, I don't think, that we need a special area - there will be one on the official site and for that's enough. It would be better, if we send them to the forums around like www.flugsimulation.ch, wwws.potterpix.de, and the other pages around the net- though we can't go with MSFS and X-Plane yet, it could be a good advertisement for us! Rgards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On sam 15 décembre 2007, AnMaster wrote: Very nice! Have you commited the nicer parachutes to cvs? I would like to try some screenshots with them too. :) Also where is that screenshot taken? What is the local airport? Regards, Arvid Norlander Hello Arvid, Sorry, for the delayed answer. Not yet commited , will be with the next Noratlas update. Was over Mont Ventoux Albion area the closest airport are LFMO LFXI LFTH Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
I don't think, that we need a special area - there will be one on the official site and for that's enough. Yes, sure. I was thinking about a pool to collect the images to be picked for the flightgear.org site. Not as an all-time-repository. Just an idea - not really important. Maybe more important: will anybody out there have a white christmas? A slight chance here in northern germany... Seasons greetings Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On dim 16 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote: Here a lot of photos about Blackbird-A with aar and Blackbird-B with chute. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-aar_1.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-aar_2.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-aar_3.jpg I guess the Blackbird-aar_1.jpg is the best. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-chute_1.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-chute_2.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-chute_3.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-chute_4.jpg Here I have not any preference, only notice Blackbird-chute_2.jpg is pointing the Moon. Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
I have one, too And one more, showing the Dragonfly microlight towing the FlightGear banner at Lelystad, EHLE. It has some nice shadows and shows our perfect implementation of the flatness of the Netherlands (sorry, Durk and Gijs ;-) Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
I have one, too And one more, showing the Dragonfly microlight towing the FlightGear banner at Lelystad, EHLE. It has some nice shadows and shows our perfect implementation of the flatness of the Netherlands (sorry, Durk and Gijs ;-) Oups - forgot the link. Here it is: http://www.t3r.de/fg/screenshots/Dragonfly-TowingBannerEHLE.jpg - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 How did you do the banner? the model in fg doesn't seem to have a banner when I look. Regards, Arvid Norlander Torsten Dreyer wrote: I have one, too And one more, showing the Dragonfly microlight towing the FlightGear banner at Lelystad, EHLE. It has some nice shadows and shows our perfect implementation of the flatness of the Netherlands (sorry, Durk and Gijs ;-) Oups - forgot the link. Here it is: http://www.t3r.de/fg/screenshots/Dragonfly-TowingBannerEHLE.jpg - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZVgLWmK6ng/aMNkRCsHgAJ9wFut9z9+OUMhaX16kBsAh3/ZlVACgx3TP zdY/U7tNDhAQ0LkkTt32iQc= =HhF3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
How did you do the banner? the model in fg doesn't seem to have a banner when I look. Hehe - of course not. You don't get it for free, you have to pick it up in flight! First you need the latest CVS version (last modification was 5 weeks ago). Next, a little configuration file is needed as described in http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Dragonfly If you want to cheat, you can set /sim/model/banner-on-hook to true and you have your banner - but thats really unfair! Enjoy, Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 There is also an undoccuemnted key binding (in aircraft help) that I found looking in -set.xml file: o - drops banner. However it drops banner even if no banner is picked up. Bug? Regards, Arvid Norlander Torsten Dreyer wrote: How did you do the banner? the model in fg doesn't seem to have a banner when I look. Hehe - of course not. You don't get it for free, you have to pick it up in flight! First you need the latest CVS version (last modification was 5 weeks ago). Next, a little configuration file is needed as described in http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Dragonfly If you want to cheat, you can set /sim/model/banner-on-hook to true and you have your banner - but thats really unfair! Enjoy, Torsten -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZVxJWmK6ng/aMNkRCs2dAJwNmlRAjL5GQG8CQzLZ7QJ7cAe/fwCghj7n vfRtrzFJEbSie77irb+eLO8= =w5rd -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Am Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007 18:11 schrieb AnMaster: There is also an undoccuemnted key binding (in aircraft help) that I found looking in -set.xml file: o - drops banner. However it drops banner even if no banner is picked up. Bug? Oups - yes. Will fix both. Thanks for the hint. Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Some more from me: http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0016.htm Really nice textures - I didn't try the photorealistic one yet! http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0017.htm And a very nice cockpit too! http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0018.htm For showing tutorial feature http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0019.htm http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0020.htm Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html __ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den schönsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Why is there a black area at the bottom of each picture? If you want to hide FPS counter just turn it off in Rendering Options under View menu. Regards, Arvid Norlander Heiko Schulz wrote: Some more from me: http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0016.htm Really nice textures - I didn't try the photorealistic one yet! http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0017.htm And a very nice cockpit too! http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0018.htm For showing tutorial feature http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0019.htm http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0020.htm Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html __ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den schönsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZWecWmK6ng/aMNkRCjcGAJ4jvdNg2yH65WGhammhGXTVxBbMoACgkauB t6chQKHv2VUxjZMWNk5K2SQ= =rP2n -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
--- AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Why is there a black area at the bottom of each picture? Because it seems that I maybe forgot to maximise the window of FGFS Or my gallery-software does this... still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? www.yahoo.de/mail - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Another thing: those hangars at that airport, when I flew there (terrasync scenery) I couldn't find them? Regards, Arvid Norlander Torsten Dreyer wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007 18:11 schrieb AnMaster: There is also an undoccuemnted key binding (in aircraft help) that I found looking in -set.xml file: o - drops banner. However it drops banner even if no banner is picked up. Bug? Oups - yes. Will fix both. Thanks for the hint. Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZW/bWmK6ng/aMNkRCghrAKC2p69qdpzuFAM1Fwqxwmg7YKLwegCgnkY6 oTc62Yz5xM1AgPL43+bISdI= =FKK1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Another thing: those hangars at that airport, when I flew there (terrasync scenery) I couldn't find them? They are in fgfsdb, shared models e000n50. http://flightgear.stockill.org.uk/download/e000n50.tgz Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On dim 16 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote: On dim 16 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote: Here a lot of photos about Blackbird-A with aar and Blackbird-B with chute. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-aar_1.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-aar_2.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-aar_3.jpg I guess the Blackbird-aar_1.jpg is the best. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-chute_1.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-chute_2.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-chute_3.jpg http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Blackbird-chute_4.jpg Here I have not any preference, only notice Blackbird-chute_2.jpg is pointing the Moon. Regards In addition that rescue simulation. Hurry up the Carrier is coming, and the sea is cold. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Rescue_1.jpg -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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gerard robin schrieb: On lun 17 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Rescue_1.jpg Is the winch a trick? Never noticed... Great pic - it has my vote! Regards HHS No it is not a trick, only for fun, I will include it on every of my naval sea rescue helicopter. Cheers Hi Gérard, do I understand this right that you managed (with some Nasal code?) that one can catch an object (ie the poor pilot) with the winch tow and get it (him) out of the water to the carrier? This would be spectacular - or just a misunderstanding from my side? Anyhow, very nice picture! Georg EDDW - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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No it is not a trick, only for fun, I will include it on every of my naval sea rescue helicopter. Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ Cool-Is the whinch working? Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On Sunday 16 December 2007 06:18:48 pm Georg Vollnhals wrote: gerard robin schrieb: On lun 17 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Rescue_1.jpg Is the winch a trick? Never noticed... Great pic - it has my vote! Regards HHS My vote too. Nice screen shot. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On lun 17 décembre 2007, Georg Vollnhals wrote: gerard robin schrieb: On lun 17 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Rescue_1.jpg Is the winch a trick? Never noticed... Great pic - it has my vote! Regards HHS No it is not a trick, only for fun, I will include it on every of my naval sea rescue helicopter. Cheers Hi Gérard, do I understand this right that you managed (with some Nasal code?) that one can catch an object (ie the poor pilot) with the winch tow and get it (him) out of the water to the carrier? This would be spectacular - or just a misunderstanding from my side? Anyhow, very nice picture! Georg EDDW No, not yet, i am at the first step, only winch up and down. The pilot there , removed when up to the helo However we could dream, some feature like your description. Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Sunday 16 December 2007 10:25:59 am Torsten Dreyer wrote: I have one, too And one more, showing the Dragonfly microlight towing the FlightGear banner at Lelystad, EHLE. It has some nice shadows and shows our perfect implementation of the flatness of the Netherlands (sorry, Durk and Gijs ;-) Torsten Good shot. One with a lot of the release planes lined up or around is a good idea too. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On lun 17 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hi Gérard, do I understand this right that you managed (with some Nasal code?) that one can catch an object (ie the poor pilot) with the winch tow and get it (him) out of the water to the carrier? This would be spectacular - or just a misunderstanding from my side? Anyhow, very nice picture! Georg EDDW I would include immediately to the EC 135 ÖAMTC In Hope HHS Yes, let me some time to tune it, and i will include it (probably in the S-51) as a separate module. As said before no catch only winch working. Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
gerard robin schrieb: Hi Gérard, do I understand this right that you managed (with some Nasal code?) that one can catch an object (ie the poor pilot) with the winch tow and get it (him) out of the water to the carrier? This would be spectacular - or just a misunderstanding from my side? Anyhow, very nice picture! Georg EDDW No, not yet, i am at the first step, only winch up and down. The pilot there , removed when up to the helo However we could dream, some feature like your description. Cheers Hi Gérard, this is a very big step forward to FlightGear Search And Rescue. You are very innovative, thank you for that. I am happy when we can try this winch up and down feature :-) Regards Georg - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
gerard robin schrieb: On lun 17 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hi Gérard, do I understand this right that you managed (with some Nasal code?) that one can catch an object (ie the poor pilot) with the winch tow and get it (him) out of the water to the carrier? This would be spectacular - or just a misunderstanding from my side? Anyhow, very nice picture! Georg EDDW I would include immediately to the EC 135 ÖAMTC In Hope HHS Yes, let me some time to tune it, and i will include it (probably in the S-51) as a separate module. As said before no catch only winch working. Cheers I was just thinking about a recently implemented feature that every(?) STATIC object can have some Nasal code implemented which gets executed when some conditions are fulfilled (I am thinking at the opening hangar doors at China Lake Naval Station). So a real Nasal expert (Melchior, if interested as a real helo addict) could write some code that the pilot-object (in water) notices the lowest point of the winch rope when within some near distance and then moves with the winch-rope when lifted. Just now (!!!) remembering Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick (!!!) which is pretty similar: catching an object and releasing it. So the basics are already there for our Nasal coders. This gives hope for the future. Georg - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On lun 17 décembre 2007, Georg Vollnhals wrote: gerard robin schrieb: On lun 17 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hi Gérard, do I understand this right that you managed (with some Nasal code?) that one can catch an object (ie the poor pilot) with the winch tow and get it (him) out of the water to the carrier? This would be spectacular - or just a misunderstanding from my side? Anyhow, very nice picture! Georg EDDW I would include immediately to the EC 135 ÖAMTC In Hope HHS Yes, let me some time to tune it, and i will include it (probably in the S-51) as a separate module. As said before no catch only winch working. Cheers I was just thinking about a recently implemented feature that every(?) STATIC object can have some Nasal code implemented which gets executed when some conditions are fulfilled (I am thinking at the opening hangar doors at China Lake Naval Station). So a real Nasal expert (Melchior, if interested as a real helo addict) could write some code that the pilot-object (in water) notices the lowest point of the winch rope when within some near distance and then moves with the winch-rope when lifted. Just now (!!!) remembering Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick (!!!) which is pretty similar: catching an object and releasing it. So the basics are already there for our Nasal coders. This gives hope for the future. Georg You are right, the Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick is a very good example. I must take time to look at it. Good idea :) I only need more free time. Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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gerard robin schrieb: You are right, the Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick is a very good example. I must take time to look at it. Good idea :) I only need more free time. Cheers Sorry, I forgot you are a Nasal specialist, too :-) This gives even more hope - nobody expects it to be finished within the next weeks. Georg - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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* Georg Vollnhals -- Monday 17 December 2007: Just now (!!!) remembering Torsten's Dragonfly banner-trick (!!!) which is pretty similar: Yes, it's clearly a job for Maik's winch/anchor feature. He has already lifted me via MP: I was in a sgs233, and Maik lifted me with a bo105. There's just no visible rope (yet). m. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 AnMaster schrieb: All screenshots have been looselessly compressed with optipng before uploading (http://optipng.sourceforge.net/) at max level. I don't think that screenshots need a lossles compression. JPG is optimized for photograph-like images, so it works well for our screenshots. And even a few JPG artifacts wouldn't matter as people know that that's a JPG feature and not a FGFS fault. Also I think your screenshot file size is too large. When people have to wait too long to see an image they'll skip it and perhaps might leave the web page. This is especially sad as many people are only looking at the screenshots first and then are looking for the rest, so we'll loose these customers forever... :( My suggestion: do a JPG compression with roughly 80% - and hope that the full screenshot won't be much bigger than 100 KB then. If it's much bigger try a different screen resolution and/or a higher JPG compression. About the image size: people are looking at the screenshots with their web browser. So there are window borders, menus, navigation bar, etc. pp. that also have to fit on the monitor. And it's quite bad if the customer has to scroll to see the full beauty of our screenshots. And not every customer has a screen resolution of at least 1400x1050 (or even better). I'd aim for a full screen browser window on a screen with a resolution of 1280x1024 (saver: 1024x768) with a maximized browser. That leaves roughly a resolution of about 1200x800 (or 1000x600). Anyway: nice screenshots! CU, Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHY5TloWM1JLkHou0RCDg6AJ9TpU/EpwaIcMNNCpiEf6dN0/JhygCfS/jy OLwC9zIEgcZU40r1+wTdgp4= =+Vjw -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Christian Mayer wrote: AnMaster schrieb: All screenshots have been looselessly compressed with optipng before uploading (http://optipng.sourceforge.net/) at max level. I don't think that screenshots need a lossles compression. JPG is optimized for photograph-like images, so it works well for our screenshots. And even a few JPG artifacts wouldn't matter as people know that that's a JPG feature and not a FGFS fault. Also I think your screenshot file size is too large. When people have to wait too long to see an image they'll skip it and perhaps might leave the web page. This is especially sad as many people are only looking at the screenshots first and then are looking for the rest, so we'll loose these customers forever... :( My suggestion: do a JPG compression with roughly 80% - and hope that the full screenshot won't be much bigger than 100 KB then. If it's much bigger try a different screen resolution and/or a higher JPG compression. Well if they get used for anything official whoever does it can recompress them. And maybe create a thumbnail or whatever. About the image size: people are looking at the screenshots with their web browser. So there are window borders, menus, navigation bar, etc. pp. that also have to fit on the monitor. And it's quite bad if the customer has to scroll to see the full beauty of our screenshots. And not every customer has a screen resolution of at least 1400x1050 (or even better). 1400x1280, 20 here :) I'd aim for a full screen browser window on a screen with a resolution of 1280x1024 (saver: 1024x768) with a maximized browser. That leaves roughly a resolution of about 1200x800 (or 1000x600). Heh, will think of that next time. Anyway: nice screenshots! Thanks CU, Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHY6TVWmK6ng/aMNkRCulnAJ9z9ZDD2YrJ0vwD1Lq1aKY0B1zwNgCgsED0 FFH4CjAnSovTwCZuTh2kB3Y= =vmlC -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Christian Mayer wrote: About the image size: people are looking at the screenshots with their web browser. So there are window borders, menus, navigation bar, etc. pp. that also have to fit on the monitor. And it's quite bad if the customer has to scroll to see the full beauty of our screenshots. And not every customer has a screen resolution of at least 1400x1050 (or even better). That's why usually galleries create a smaller version of the picture for immediate consumption (like 640x480) and link to the full version, which might even be the PNG, as the user already expects longer loading time. I'd aim for a full screen browser window on a screen with a resolution of 1280x1024 (saver: 1024x768) with a maximized browser. That leaves roughly a resolution of about 1200x800 (or 1000x600). Images may be resized anyway, so it seems to be the best idea to use the largest resolution possible for screen shots. Scaling down then would even improve quality by reducing aliasing. Nine signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Stefan Seifert wrote: Christian Mayer wrote: About the image size: people are looking at the screenshots with their web browser. So there are window borders, menus, navigation bar, etc. pp. that also have to fit on the monitor. And it's quite bad if the customer has to scroll to see the full beauty of our screenshots. And not every customer has a screen resolution of at least 1400x1050 (or even better). That's why usually galleries create a smaller version of the picture for immediate consumption (like 640x480) and link to the full version, which might even be the PNG, as the user already expects longer loading time. Indeed (I'm currently compressing 18 new screeenshots, mostly of A-10 because it looks so good with shadows, and optipng isn't fast, about 1-2 minutes for each picture). It usually brings the image size down with something like 8-12 % however. For example (output from a bash script, that I made, that runs optipng): A-10-KNID-02.png : 477316 Output file size = 415936 bytes (61380 bytes = 12.86% decrease) I'd aim for a full screen browser window on a screen with a resolution of 1280x1024 (saver: 1024x768) with a maximized browser. That leaves roughly a resolution of about 1200x800 (or 1000x600). Images may be resized anyway, so it seems to be the best idea to use the largest resolution possible for screen shots. Scaling down then would even improve quality by reducing aliasing. Also I notice that if I resize the fgfs window to be smaller while flying A-10 or any other aircraft with the heat haze animation while the engine is running I get odd graphical artifacts instead of the heat haze, restoring the window size to same as before fixes it. Nine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHY7yoWmK6ng/aMNkRChbPAJ9Rep0qo+dHxFQxoJ0137Wv9xejzwCePRuO HzZiQN3NS2PaNF+cr2cKIRA= =jSES -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Right. Some more screenshots uploaded to http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0 New: * A-10-KNID-02.png to A-10-KNID-18.png * SopwithCamel-001.png Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHY8qaWmK6ng/aMNkRCnO7AJ9bO27+9nWa+jBjr99pIEVrcuxaOQCdF1nm LuqB/gEhiuxut/PxxCb7qVw= =Zi6/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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- dark screenshots should be avoided, as they likely look bad on cheap and/or badly adjusted/adjustable monitors. I have that problem with mine, and that wouldn't be a good reason, but I also know that others have them. If you don't have anything to hide, use daylight! :-} - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Well I wanted to show the runway lights or aircraft lights in some of my screenshots. Hard to do that at noon. :P Regards, Arvid Norlander Melchior FRANZ wrote: - dark screenshots should be avoided, as they likely look bad on cheap and/or badly adjusted/adjustable monitors. I have that problem with mine, and that wouldn't be a good reason, but I also know that others have them. If you don't have anything to hide, use daylight! :-} -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHY9BFWmK6ng/aMNkRCt9RAJ9P2m4KeYorxRF6wKMaDzwgsOv1WgCggE3q CURcHsJIzTkMbmTZfrD2ywM= =u7vY -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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* AnMaster -- Saturday 15 December 2007: Well I wanted to show the runway lights or aircraft lights in some of my screenshots. Hard to do that at noon. :P True. But night lighting is one of our weakest areas, so it's probably better to hide that away. m. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Here is a nice shot over chicago... No antialiasing, sorry... http://www.t3r.de/fg/c172chicago.jpg Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Here is a nice shot over chicago... No antialiasing, sorry... http://www.t3r.de/fg/c172chicago.jpg Torsten Ah ... the good ol' days. :-) Jon - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Saturday 15 December 2007 13:50:54 Jon S. Berndt wrote: Ah ... the good ol' days. :-) I like the 50fps - as I recall, with MSFS4 on an 8086 based PC it was much closer to 1 frame / 5 seconds :-) Cheers, AJ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On sam 15 décembre 2007, AJ MacLeod wrote: This could give an idea for an other snapshot. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para.jpg That one has a wrong definition ( missing aliasing ) Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Saturday 15 December 2007 14:34:19 gerard robin wrote: This could give an idea for an other snapshot. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para.jpg Nice dramatic shot (the sky especially) - pity about the sharp flat top to the 3d clouds to the right :-\ Cheers, AJ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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..and a pity that the parachutes are nor really round... but this are the shots are needed! Regards HHS --- AJ MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Saturday 15 December 2007 14:34:19 gerard robin wrote: This could give an idea for an other snapshot. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para.jpg Nice dramatic shot (the sky especially) - pity about the sharp flat top to the 3d clouds to the right :-\ Cheers, AJ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On sam 15 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: ..and a pity that the parachutes are nor really round... but this are the shots are needed! Regards HHS --- AJ MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Saturday 15 December 2007 14:34:19 gerard robin wrote: This could give an idea for an other snapshot. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para.jpg Nice dramatic shot (the sky especially) - pity about the sharp flat top to the 3d clouds to the right :-\ Cheers, AJ We know the problem about the clouds , Harald explained us the difficulty. About parachutes it is easier to solve = more poly, i must try it Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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So, with FG, we can notice some little improvements ( on Amiga, the pictures are better) :):) :) Regards Gérard I still have an Amiga 3000T somewhere around here. [I ran Flight Simulator (from subLogix) on that in the very early 1990's.] The Amiga had such promise. But oh, what a collapse. :-( Jon - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:30:42 +0100 gerard robin wrote: yeah, i have one,:) It could be a tale the Alouette and the Cow http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Alouette_III-img4.jpg Nice udders! -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Well I uploaded quite a few new screenshots to http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/ also I removed some that had flaws in them. Feel free to use any for the official website. They are dual licensed under GPL 2 or later and CC-by-sa-3.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/). Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZDIrWmK6ng/aMNkRCkpcAKC2kxN+T2L2X0wFjNIVhyRO+p6ADwCeOF9J ejPd6Hba85cw1gI3SJ57VoA= =iUpZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On sam 15 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote: On sam 15 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: ..and a pity that the parachutes are nor really round... but this are the shots are needed! Regards HHS --- AJ MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Saturday 15 December 2007 14:34:19 gerard robin wrote: This could give an idea for an other snapshot. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para.jpg Nice dramatic shot (the sky especially) - pity about the sharp flat top to the 3d clouds to the right :-\ Cheers, AJ We know the problem about the clouds , Harald explained us the difficulty. About parachutes it is easier to solve = more poly, i must try it Cheers An other one , without the sharp flat top to the clouds , and with parachutes more realistic. Anti-aliasing , Anisotropic Filter, Texture Sharpening, 1800X1440 (available if necessary .ppm format) http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para_1.jpg Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Saturday 15 December 2007 21:13:44 gerard robin wrote: An other one , without the sharp flat top to the clouds , and with parachutes more realistic. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para_1.jpg Very nice indeed! There are a few of the Camel here - not as impressive as that, by any means :-) http://www.adeptopensource.co.uk/personal/fg/camel/screenshots/camel_snowy_aerodrome.png http://www.adeptopensource.co.uk/personal/fg/camel/screenshots/camel_over_hangars-2.png Cheers, AJ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Very nice! Have you commited the nicer parachutes to cvs? I would like to try some screenshots with them too. :) Also where is that screenshot taken? What is the local airport? Regards, Arvid Norlander gerard robin wrote: On sam 15 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote: On sam 15 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: ..and a pity that the parachutes are nor really round... but this are the shots are needed! Regards HHS --- AJ MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Saturday 15 December 2007 14:34:19 gerard robin wrote: This could give an idea for an other snapshot. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para.jpg Nice dramatic shot (the sky especially) - pity about the sharp flat top to the 3d clouds to the right :-\ Cheers, AJ We know the problem about the clouds , Harald explained us the difficulty. About parachutes it is easier to solve = more poly, i must try it Cheers An other one , without the sharp flat top to the clouds , and with parachutes more realistic. Anti-aliasing , Anisotropic Filter, Texture Sharpening, 1800X1440 (available if necessary .ppm format) http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para_1.jpg Regards -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZEraWmK6ng/aMNkRCggrAJwOToeQFIo5swp9di/NKyjeGYR+IQCfQqoi KwAidhxtR/e/OIKOpbTjJ5k= =BWuh -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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I'm still playing catchup after being gone all week so I've missed a lot of the contributions people have posted here. I am hoping that someone on the list here would be willing to glean through all the screenshot contributions and try to assemble maybe 10-20 of the very best ... that show a variety of interesting aircraft in their best light, that show a variety of terrain and environments and weather. I agree that night shots seem to not work as well ... point lights get lost when images are resized, etc. But some of the most compelling images I've seen have come when the sun is low in the sky, so having one or two dusk/dawn images would be good in my opinion. And of course, if we can cleverly show features and details in the process that is also a great thing. Gerards shot of the parachute drop is great because it shows off our dynamic submodel feature which might not be matched in capability by other simulators. So if we can get a volunteer to assemble the best of the best submissions here, I can put them on the web site with thumbnails. In addition, each image can have a caption if we want to point out a few special details for the visitors to look for. Regards, Curt. On Dec 15, 2007 3:45 PM, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Very nice! Have you commited the nicer parachutes to cvs? I would like to try some screenshots with them too. :) Also where is that screenshot taken? What is the local airport? Regards, Arvid Norlander gerard robin wrote: On sam 15 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote: On sam 15 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote: ..and a pity that the parachutes are nor really round... but this are the shots are needed! Regards HHS --- AJ MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Saturday 15 December 2007 14:34:19 gerard robin wrote: This could give an idea for an other snapshot. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para.jpg Nice dramatic shot (the sky especially) - pity about the sharp flat top to the 3d clouds to the right :-\ Cheers, AJ We know the problem about the clouds , Harald explained us the difficulty. About parachutes it is easier to solve = more poly, i must try it Cheers An other one , without the sharp flat top to the clouds , and with parachutes more realistic. Anti-aliasing , Anisotropic Filter, Texture Sharpening, 1800X1440 (available if necessary .ppm format) http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para_1.jpg Regards -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZEraWmK6ng/aMNkRCggrAJwOToeQFIo5swp9di/NKyjeGYR+IQCfQqoi KwAidhxtR/e/OIKOpbTjJ5k= =BWuh -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Curtis Olson wrote: I'm still playing catchup after being gone all week so I've missed a lot of the contributions people have posted here. I am hoping that someone on the list here would be willing to glean through all the screenshot contributions and try to assemble maybe 10-20 of the very best ... that show a variety of interesting aircraft in their best light, that show a variety of terrain and environments and weather. I agree that night shots seem to not work as well ... point lights get lost when images are resized, etc. But some of the most compelling images I've seen have come when the sun is low in the sky, so having one or two dusk/dawn images would be good in my opinion. And of course, if we can cleverly show features and details in the process that is also a great thing. Gerards shot of the parachute drop is great because it shows off our dynamic submodel feature which might not be matched in capability by other simulators. So if we can get a volunteer to assemble the best of the best submissions here, I can put them on the web site with thumbnails. In addition, each image can have a caption if we want to point out a few special details for the visitors to look for. Regards, Curt. Indeed, however I'm biased here as I provided a lot of screenshots myself (compressing some more at the moment of dhc2F) Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZFSoWmK6ng/aMNkRCulbAJwL4zUJ4N4tptOF57hUoeM5DAVSIQCgnt1/ JXpIz1V0sMobkeVbZDCf8B4= =DzN5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Dec 15, 2007 4:26 PM, AnMaster wrote: Indeed, however I'm biased here as I provided a lot of screenshots myself (compressing some more at the moment of dhc2F) It sounds to me like you have just volunteered. And if no one else volunteers to help assemble the final screen shots, then no one else will be able to legitimately complain about your choices. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Curtis Olson wrote: On Dec 15, 2007 4:26 PM, AnMaster wrote: Indeed, however I'm biased here as I provided a lot of screenshots myself (compressing some more at the moment of dhc2F) It sounds to me like you have just volunteered. And if no one else volunteers to help assemble the final screen shots, then no one else will be able to legitimately complain about your choices. :-) Well sadly I won't have time either, busy until Monday evening. Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZFv2WmK6ng/aMNkRCu20AKCOTiybp2v0ms9TZ2DAKYKmFkoTVACfTNd7 kFhVCJ2JtUa0hQc3F2BOfs8= =kByL -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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--- Curtis Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Dec 15, 2007 4:26 PM, AnMaster wrote: Indeed, however I'm biased here as I provided a lot of screenshots myself (compressing some more at the moment of dhc2F) It sounds to me like you have just volunteered. And if no one else volunteers to help assemble the final screen shots, then no one else will be able to legitimately complain about your choices. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d Don't worry- there are more to come! ;-) How about some videos on www.flightgear.org, showing some nice features? Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Since I am now paying for www.flightgear.org bandwidth, I propose we upload the videos to youtube and link to them from the FlightGear web site, or we can even add an embedded player so they integrate seamlessly with the web page ... which is something youtube encourages. Curt. On Dec 15, 2007 5:09 PM, Heiko Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Curtis Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Dec 15, 2007 4:26 PM, AnMaster wrote: Indeed, however I'm biased here as I provided a lot of screenshots myself (compressing some more at the moment of dhc2F) It sounds to me like you have just volunteered. And if no one else volunteers to help assemble the final screen shots, then no one else will be able to legitimately complain about your choices. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d Don't worry- there are more to come! ;-) How about some videos on www.flightgear.org, showing some nice features? Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Hi, Oh, that was something I didn't know- learn two things a day ;-) So youtube is a good solution! Regards HHS --- Curtis Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Since I am now paying for www.flightgear.org bandwidth, I propose we upload the videos to youtube and link to them from the FlightGear web site, or we can even add an embedded player so they integrate seamlessly with the web page ... which is something youtube encourages. Curt. On Dec 15, 2007 5:09 PM, Heiko Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Curtis Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Dec 15, 2007 4:26 PM, AnMaster wrote: Indeed, however I'm biased here as I provided a lot of screenshots myself (compressing some more at the moment of dhc2F) It sounds to me like you have just volunteered. And if no one else volunteers to help assemble the final screen shots, then no one else will be able to legitimately complain about your choices. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d Don't worry- there are more to come! ;-) How about some videos on www.flightgear.org, showing some nice features? Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Jetzt Mails schnell in einem Vorschaufenster überfliegen. Dies und viel mehr bietet das neue Yahoo! Mail - www.yahoo.de/mail - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
if this can help AnMaster, pictures marked from 0 to 3 from http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/ 0: I wouldn't like to see that as a marketing media for FG 1: not a good picture 2: interresting but not top notch quality 3: usable as a marketing media About the A-10: I enjoyed a lot modeling the weapons system and have fun testing it, but I think that it's not a good thing to put the weapons in the front of the scene... mostly because it's only a feature, and it would disapoint gamers if they get FG thinking that it is the right stuff to shoot at and kill every one. A-10-KNID-01.png 2 A-10-KNID-02.png 2 A-10-KNID-03.png 0 A-10-KNID-04.png 3 should be croped so the a/c is bigger (verify if it's ok for bad screens) A-10-KNID-05.png 2 A-10-KNID-06.png 1 A-10-KNID-07.png 1 A-10-KNID-08.png 2 A-10-KNID-09.png 2 A-10-KNID-10.png 2 A-10-KNID-11.png 2 A-10-KNID-12.png 2 A-10-KNID-13.png 2 A-10-KNID-14.png 2 A-10-KNID-15.png 1 A-10-KNID-16.png 1 A-10-KNID-17.png 2 A-10-KNID-18.png 1 A-6E-Nimitz-01.png 2 AN-225-KEDW-01.png 0 Areostar-700-KSFO-01.png 2 B-2-KSFO-01.png 1 B-52-KEDW-01.png 1 B-52-KEDW-02.png 2 Blackbird-A-KSFO-01.png 1 Blackbird-A-KSFO-02.png 3 Buccaneer-Nimitz-01.png 3 should be croped so the a/c is bigger Concorde-KSFO-01.png 1 (ac not enough centered on the screen) Concorde-KSFO-02.png 1 Harrier-Nimitz-01.png 1 Harrier-Nimitz-02.png 0 Harrier-Nimitz-03.png 1 KNID-Hangar-01.png 0 KNID-Hangar-02.png 0 KNID-Hangar-03.png 0 KNID-Hangar-04.png 0 Lighting-KSFO-03.png 0 Lightning-KNID-01.png 0 Lightning-KNID-02.png 1 Lightning-KSFO-01.png 1 Lightning-KSFO-02.png 0 Lightning-KSFO-04.png 0 Lightning-KSFO-06.png 1 Noratlas-EDDI-01.png 3 to be compared with gerard ones... SeaVixen-Nimitz-01.png 3 should be croped so the a/c is bigger SeaVixen-Nimitz-02.png 2 SeaVixen-Nimitz-03.png 1 SeaVixen-Nimitz-04.png 1 SeaVixen-Nimitz-05.png 1 SeafireIIIc-KSFO-01.png 2 Seahawk-Foch-01.png 2 Seahawk-Foch-02.png 2 Seahawk-SeaVixen-Nimitz-01.png 1 SopwithCamel-001.png 1 V22-Osprey-KSFO-01.png 3 should be croped so the a/c is bigger V22-Osprey-KSFO-02.png 1 b1900d-KSFO-01.png 1 bocian-KSFO-01.png 0 dhc2F-CYDL-01.png 2 dhc2F-CYDL-02.png 1 dhc2F-CYDL-03.png 1 dhc2F-CYDL-04.png 2 dhc2F-CYDL-05.png 2 dhc2F-CYDL-06.png 2 dhc2F-CYDL-07.png 3 should be croped so the a/c is bigger dhc2F-CYDL-08.png 2 Alexis - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On Dec 16, 2007 12:39 AM, alexis bory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if this can help AnMaster, pictures marked from 0 to 3 from http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/ Okay, I'll just list the ones I graded with a 3 ;) A-10-KNID-01.png (the rwy edge is somewhat jagged, is that really antialiased?) A-6E-Nimitz-01.png (wouldn't mind if the Nimitz was a little closer) Seahawk-Foch-01.png Seahawk-SeaVixen-Nimitz-01.png V22-Osprey-KSFO-01.png (definitely need a picture of V22, this is the better of the two) dhc2F-CYDL-02.png (I'd welcome a nicer background scenery though) dhc2F-CYDL-07.png (I love this one: the lighting, the mountains, and the star/planet) -- Csaba/Jester - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On ven 14 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote: On ven 14 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... SNIP Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg [32.9 kB] m. yeah, i have one,:) It could be a tale the Alouette and the Cow http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Alouette_III-img4.jpg (only a joke) Regards More serious, if the request is not Model productive only i can propose that one. It will need to remove the frame rate. Real weather (sorry no clouds here). http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Lynx-img4.jpg Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ Less i work, better i go - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On ven 14 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... SNIP Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg [32.9 kB] m. yeah, i have one,:) It could be a tale the Alouette and the Cow http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Alouette_III-img4.jpg (only a joke) Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ Less i work, better i go - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
gerard robin Sent: 14 December 2007 15:31 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots) On ven 14 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... SNIP Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg [32.9 kB] m. yeah, i have one,:) It could be a tale the Alouette and the Cow http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Alouette_III-img4.jpg (only a joke) Hey - a cow!!! First time I've seen one. Not bad at all :-) Vivian - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On ven 14 décembre 2007, Vivian Meazza wrote: gerard robin Sent: 14 December 2007 15:31 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots) On ven 14 décembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... SNIP Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg [32.9 kB] m. yeah, i have one,:) It could be a tale the Alouette and the Cow http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Alouette_III-img4.jpg (only a joke) Hey - a cow!!! First time I've seen one. Not bad at all :-) Vivian Yes nice cow, but you know very well :) Unfortunately without shadow , i just remember that the shadow don't apply to random objects. -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ Less i work, better i go - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Some questions: * What resolution should be used? I normally run with maximized window. For true full screen my monitor produces 1400x1280 however. However I don't like full screen. * I can run with 2x antialias in real time (the max in nvidia settings, 16x, is insanely slow). Should I use the snapshot way with 16x antialias? * Should I enable Anisotropic Filtering? * What about the texture sharpening feature? Normally I fly with 2x antialias, 2x Anisotropic Filtering, texture sharpening on. Regards, Arvid Norlander Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... - use maximum quality (antialiasing!) - disable gui parts (menu/frame rate counter, unless that's what you want to demonstrate, of course) - ideally (but not necessarily) show something that is new in this release: one of the aircraft shipped in the default package for the first time, or a new feature (or at least something that is in context with a new feature, so that a subscription text can explain the feature) Please don't just make random snapshots of random flights, but aim for a good view angle, appropriate weather effects (not only default weather, unless that's the most appropriate :-), ideal sun angle (shadow angle - self-shadowing), etc. Look at some of the last screenshots, most of which were quite good. The contents of a screenshot shouldn't be (totally) cheated. That is: one should be able to see the same scene with a default fgfs if the weather, daytime etc. is the same (and one has a graphics card good enough for real-time antialiasing). But some cheating is acceptable, if it follows this principle. It's OK to use terrain/objects that aren't in the default tiles (e.g. using KNID is fine), as long as that's available from Jon's ObjectDB. It's *not* OK to show, for example, a Jeep in a Hercules, as this isn't something we can do with a flyable Hercules. Unfortunately, my FX5500 isn't good enough for live antialiasing, so I use an acceptable cheating method: from a local key binding (Meta-d) I call a function dump_aircraft_snapshot() that saves a snapshot, similar to what ac_state.nas does. This allows me to make a normal (aliasing) flight with my target aircraft. When I found a nice situation, I pause fgfs, then press the snapshot key, and get a snapshot file, e.g ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml (automatically inserting the nearest airport and aircraft, as well as an index number that prevents overwriting old files). Now I turn on full anti-aliasing, and run fgfs again with $ fgfs --aircraft=ufo ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml And now the A-10 hangs there like it did in the prior run, and I can use the UFO to find a good viewing angle, good sun angle, good weather etc. With full antialiasing that's still sluggish, but workable. Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg [32.9 kB] m. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHYu0zWmK6ng/aMNkRChOiAKC11LovPok1vVfiAKA563nNrxuDKACgoJep zQzH8oKzepE5BGy3AUnX2ZQ= =20qJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Hi there, Cool, I'm gonna take some cool shots. BTW, why don't we provide some more attractive media on the website. How about some short movies like seahawk taking off from Nimitz? Two aircraft passing by in MP session also would be very attractive to users. Best, Tat On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... - use maximum quality (antialiasing!) - disable gui parts (menu/frame rate counter, unless that's what you want to demonstrate, of course) - ideally (but not necessarily) show something that is new in this release: one of the aircraft shipped in the default package for the first time, or a new feature (or at least something that is in context with a new feature, so that a subscription text can explain the feature) Please don't just make random snapshots of random flights, but aim for a good view angle, appropriate weather effects (not only default weather, unless that's the most appropriate :-), ideal sun angle (shadow angle - self-shadowing), etc. Look at some of the last screenshots, most of which were quite good. The contents of a screenshot shouldn't be (totally) cheated. That is: one should be able to see the same scene with a default fgfs if the weather, daytime etc. is the same (and one has a graphics card good enough for real-time antialiasing). But some cheating is acceptable, if it follows this principle. It's OK to use terrain/objects that aren't in the default tiles (e.g. using KNID is fine), as long as that's available from Jon's ObjectDB. It's *not* OK to show, for example, a Jeep in a Hercules, as this isn't something we can do with a flyable Hercules. Unfortunately, my FX5500 isn't good enough for live antialiasing, so I use an acceptable cheating method: from a local key binding (Meta-d) I call a function dump_aircraft_snapshot() that saves a snapshot, similar to what ac_state.nas does. This allows me to make a normal (aliasing) flight with my target aircraft. When I found a nice situation, I pause fgfs, then press the snapshot key, and get a snapshot file, e.g ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml (automatically inserting the nearest airport and aircraft, as well as an index number that prevents overwriting old files). Now I turn on full anti-aliasing, and run fgfs again with $ fgfs --aircraft=ufo ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml And now the A-10 hangs there like it did in the prior run, and I can use the UFO to find a good viewing angle, good sun angle, good weather etc. With full antialiasing that's still sluggish, but workable. Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg [32.9 kB] m. snapshot.nas- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 This may be a duplicated, didn't manage to get through first time. Some questions: * What resolution should be used? I normally run with maximized window. For true full screen my monitor produces 1400x1280 however. However I don't like full screen. * I can run with 2x antialias in real time (the max in nvidia settings, 16x, is insanely slow). Should I use the snapshot way with 16x antialias? * Should I enable Anisotropic Filtering? * What about the texture sharpening feature? Normally I fly with 2x antialias, 2x Anisotropic Filtering, texture sharpening on. Regards, Arvid Norlander Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... - use maximum quality (antialiasing!) - disable gui parts (menu/frame rate counter, unless that's what you want to demonstrate, of course) - ideally (but not necessarily) show something that is new in this release: one of the aircraft shipped in the default package for the first time, or a new feature (or at least something that is in context with a new feature, so that a subscription text can explain the feature) Please don't just make random snapshots of random flights, but aim for a good view angle, appropriate weather effects (not only default weather, unless that's the most appropriate :-), ideal sun angle (shadow angle - self-shadowing), etc. Look at some of the last screenshots, most of which were quite good. The contents of a screenshot shouldn't be (totally) cheated. That is: one should be able to see the same scene with a default fgfs if the weather, daytime etc. is the same (and one has a graphics card good enough for real-time antialiasing). But some cheating is acceptable, if it follows this principle. It's OK to use terrain/objects that aren't in the default tiles (e.g. using KNID is fine), as long as that's available from Jon's ObjectDB. It's *not* OK to show, for example, a Jeep in a Hercules, as this isn't something we can do with a flyable Hercules. Unfortunately, my FX5500 isn't good enough for live antialiasing, so I use an acceptable cheating method: from a local key binding (Meta-d) I call a function dump_aircraft_snapshot() that saves a snapshot, similar to what ac_state.nas does. This allows me to make a normal (aliasing) flight with my target aircraft. When I found a nice situation, I pause fgfs, then press the snapshot key, and get a snapshot file, e.g ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml (automatically inserting the nearest airport and aircraft, as well as an index number that prevents overwriting old files). Now I turn on full anti-aliasing, and run fgfs again with $ fgfs --aircraft=ufo ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml And now the A-10 hangs there like it did in the prior run, and I can use the UFO to find a good viewing angle, good sun angle, good weather etc. With full antialiasing that's still sluggish, but workable. Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg [32.9 kB] m. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHYwIhWmK6ng/aMNkRCqKrAKC1wGpsvLK9y1eDAA96u0Cdk8autgCgk11c AovwexPE4FTXkOkgAC0DVUk= =bfWG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
On Dec 14, 2007 3:54 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: BTW, why don't we provide some more attractive media on the website. How about some short movies like seahawk taking off from Nimitz? Two aircraft passing by in MP session also would be very attractive to users. For large files like video, I'd prefer to have them uploaded to a service like youtube that supports a wide variety of platforms and then post the link or embed the link on ourweb site. I believe we've referenced videos from our gallery in the past so I'd be happy to do it again. Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I made some screenshots of A-10, A-6E, Lightning and Concorde. I uploaded them to http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/ I might add more if I get time. The settings using in nvidia-settings: Antialias: 4x, 9-tap Gaussian Anisotropic Filtering: 8x Texture Sharpening: Yes All screenshots have been looselessly compressed with optipng before uploading (http://optipng.sourceforge.net/) at max level. Regards, Arvid Norlander Melchior FRANZ wrote: For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally, Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days, I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ... - use maximum quality (antialiasing!) - disable gui parts (menu/frame rate counter, unless that's what you want to demonstrate, of course) - ideally (but not necessarily) show something that is new in this release: one of the aircraft shipped in the default package for the first time, or a new feature (or at least something that is in context with a new feature, so that a subscription text can explain the feature) Please don't just make random snapshots of random flights, but aim for a good view angle, appropriate weather effects (not only default weather, unless that's the most appropriate :-), ideal sun angle (shadow angle - self-shadowing), etc. Look at some of the last screenshots, most of which were quite good. The contents of a screenshot shouldn't be (totally) cheated. That is: one should be able to see the same scene with a default fgfs if the weather, daytime etc. is the same (and one has a graphics card good enough for real-time antialiasing). But some cheating is acceptable, if it follows this principle. It's OK to use terrain/objects that aren't in the default tiles (e.g. using KNID is fine), as long as that's available from Jon's ObjectDB. It's *not* OK to show, for example, a Jeep in a Hercules, as this isn't something we can do with a flyable Hercules. Unfortunately, my FX5500 isn't good enough for live antialiasing, so I use an acceptable cheating method: from a local key binding (Meta-d) I call a function dump_aircraft_snapshot() that saves a snapshot, similar to what ac_state.nas does. This allows me to make a normal (aliasing) flight with my target aircraft. When I found a nice situation, I pause fgfs, then press the snapshot key, and get a snapshot file, e.g ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml (automatically inserting the nearest airport and aircraft, as well as an index number that prevents overwriting old files). Now I turn on full anti-aliasing, and run fgfs again with $ fgfs --aircraft=ufo ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml And now the A-10 hangs there like it did in the prior run, and I can use the UFO to find a good viewing angle, good sun angle, good weather etc. With full antialiasing that's still sluggish, but workable. Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight. http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg [32.9 kB] m. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHYyR+WmK6ng/aMNkRCv2aAJwP1x2zVhIeEoGxoi/ZeyrSDWFP4ACghSSS 4/D7ClOdhjii5xQMwjeyRw0= =xWqY -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Hi, Ouch, Antialiasing doesn't work on Mac... I need someone who understand OpenGL on Mac better than me. Best, Tat On Dec 15, 2007, at 9:49 AM, AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I made some screenshots of A-10, A-6E, Lightning and Concorde. I uploaded them to http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/ I might add more if I get time. The settings using in nvidia-settings: Antialias: 4x, 9-tap Gaussian Anisotropic Filtering: 8x Texture Sharpening: Yes All screenshots have been looselessly compressed with optipng before uploading (http://optipng.sourceforge.net/) at max level. Regards, Arvid Norlander - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
