Re: [Flightgear-users] Frames Per Second

2005-12-16 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Friday 16 December 2005 13:46, Ron Waite wrote:
 However, I was wondering if there was someone developing a way to be able
 to keep good-looking graphics and high-detail while keeping high FPS?

Yes.  Buy a more powerful graphics card :-)  Seriously though - could you 
clarify what are you referring to in particular - the scenery?  The aircraft 
3D models?  Objects in the scenery?

We already have quite a few nice graphical effects, often disabled by default 
for performance reasons (you can turn some of them on through the 
view/rendering options menus).

You are very welcome (and encouraged) to help contribute new scenery objects 
etc - if you think aircraft models are lacking in detail or unfinished (which 
admittedly some are) then you can also help out there.

With a reasonably powerful computer and decent graphics card, even with all 
the graphical effects turned on framerates should be very acceptable (i.e. 
over 30fps or so).

Cheers,

AJ

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Frames Per Second

2005-12-16 Thread Ron Waite





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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:50:38 +

On Friday 16 December 2005 13:46, Ron Waite wrote:
 However, I was wondering if there was someone developing a way to be 
able

 to keep good-looking graphics and high-detail while keeping high FPS?

Yes.  Buy a more powerful graphics card :-)  Seriously though - could you
clarify what are you referring to in particular - the scenery?  The 
aircraft

3D models?  Objects in the scenery?

We already have quite a few nice graphical effects, often disabled by 
default

for performance reasons (you can turn some of them on through the
view/rendering options menus).

You are very welcome (and encouraged) to help contribute new scenery 
objects
etc - if you think aircraft models are lacking in detail or unfinished 
(which

admittedly some are) then you can also help out there.

With a reasonably powerful computer and decent graphics card, even with all
the graphical effects turned on framerates should be very acceptable (i.e.
over 30fps or so).

Cheers,

AJ

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I've actually got an Athlon64 3500+, Radeon X200 card, 512MB RAM, and around 
airports and some features (like horizon effect) on, and I get 5 FPS. Is it 
possibly a scenery problem? It doesn't help much if I turn some effects off. 
Or is it possibly my computer having performance issues.


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Re: [Flightgear-users] Frames Per Second

2005-12-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Ron Waite wrote:

I've actually got an Athlon64 3500+, Radeon X200 card, 512MB RAM, and 
around airports and some features (like horizon effect) on, and I get 
5 FPS. Is it possibly a scenery problem? It doesn't help much if I 
turn some effects off. Or is it possibly my computer having 
performance issues.



It sounds like some performance issues on your end.  It's always good to 
go fetch and install the latest drivers for your graphics card.  On a 
mid to upper end system you should be able to easily get a solid 30-60 
fps if not a lot higher.  You might also double check that you don't 
have some insane level of antialiasing turned on (in your display 
settings.)  Even the newest cards let you turn on rendering quality 
features that can really cut into performance to.


Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Frames Per Second

2005-12-16 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Friday 16 December 2005 15:41, Ron Waite wrote:
 I've actually got an Athlon64 3500+, Radeon X200 card, 512MB RAM, and
 around airports and some features (like horizon effect) on, and I get 5
 FPS. Is it possibly a scenery problem? It doesn't help much if I turn some
 effects off. Or is it possibly my computer having performance issues.

On a lesser AMD box with a Nvidia 6600 card I would expect ten times that (and 
more) for fps.

I know nothing about ATI cards - but it sounds rather like you're using 
software rendering.  In other words, your graphics card is not actually doing 
the hard work it specialises in at all, but leaving the CPU to struggle away 
with everything.

Which OS are you running and do you have the latest graphics drivers 
installed?  Do other OpenGL programs run at full speed?

Cheers,

AJ

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Frames Per Second

2005-12-16 Thread Ron Waite





From: AJ MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Frames Per Second
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:00:12 +

On Friday 16 December 2005 15:41, Ron Waite wrote:
 I've actually got an Athlon64 3500+, Radeon X200 card, 512MB RAM, and
 around airports and some features (like horizon effect) on, and I get 5
 FPS. Is it possibly a scenery problem? It doesn't help much if I turn 
some

 effects off. Or is it possibly my computer having performance issues.

On a lesser AMD box with a Nvidia 6600 card I would expect ten times that 
(and

more) for fps.

I know nothing about ATI cards - but it sounds rather like you're using
software rendering.  In other words, your graphics card is not actually 
doing
the hard work it specialises in at all, but leaving the CPU to struggle 
away

with everything.

Which OS are you running and do you have the latest graphics drivers
installed?  Do other OpenGL programs run at full speed?

Cheers,

AJ

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I use Windows XP with SP2. I just downloaded the Omega drivers based on the 
Catalyst 5.12 drivers, but I'll have to install them later. I run MSFS 2004, 
not sure if it is OpenGL or not, but it too runs a little slower than what 
should be expected. Perhaps when I install the drivers I'll expirement with 
the card settings.


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