RE: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
From: Jon S. Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:41:48 -0600 I know it's normal on single-prop aircraft, but this is happening in the A-10, T-38, etc. Check that your joystick is aligned properly. Torque and P-factor, etc. will roll/yaw to the left - not the right. It sounds like your joystick is messed up. I don't see these. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d My joystick is perfectly aligned. No crosswind either. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
Ron Waite: My joystick is perfectly aligned. How did you check this when people asked? For instance, did you try pulling the joystick entirely and taking off by keyboard, and then experienced exactly the same problem with all the same aircraft? The reason people are gravitating towards this reply to you is because the kind of problem you're reporting has infrequently been reported in the past, and it's always been because of joystick issues. -c ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
Hi Ron, just one addition from my personal experience: With the old FG version 0.9.8 I had some trouble with suddenly rolling a/c which I could not explain to myself until I noticed that though I am using separate pedals (with own XML file) the rocker-switch of my Saitek X45 joystick was also assigned to the ruder. I had *deleted* the assignment out of the XML file (axis n=3) but *though* it was recognized anyway. This problem was solved with CVS versions and FG version 0.9.9 but until then I had to carefully watch this unwished second assignment to be centered (neutralized) so not to disturb the functions of my rudder-pedals. BTW, compared to other sims rudder application causes a heavy roll tendency, I don't know whether this is more realistic or less due to lacking real-life experiences, I just accept it. Regards Georg EDDW Ron Waite schrieb: From: Jon S. Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:41:48 -0600 I know it's normal on single-prop aircraft, but this is happening in the A-10, T-38, etc. Check that your joystick is aligned properly. Torque and P-factor, etc. will roll/yaw to the left - not the right. It sounds like your joystick is messed up. I don't see these. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d My joystick is perfectly aligned. No crosswind either. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
Ron Waite wrote: Whenever I start to takeoff, no matter what plane I'm in, it pulls to the right. Sometimes it will go straight for a few seconds then jerk over to the right. Sometimes it will start going right from the beginning, slowly and steadily. Sometimes it will go straight, jerk right, go straight again, jerk right again. And sometimes, moving my joystick to the left doesn't help much. Why is this? Thanks. Is it a propeller driven aircraft? If so, you are probably experiencing prop-torque. The propeller will tend to yaw the aircraft to the right. This tendency gets more severe with the RPM of the engine. Scott ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
On December 19, 2005 07:01 pm, scott wrote: Ron Waite wrote: Whenever I start to takeoff, no matter what plane I'm in, it pulls to the right. Sometimes it will go straight for a few seconds then jerk over to the right. Sometimes it will start going right from the beginning, slowly and steadily. Sometimes it will go straight, jerk right, go straight again, jerk right again. And sometimes, moving my joystick to the left doesn't help much. Why is this? Thanks. Is it a propeller driven aircraft? If so, you are probably experiencing prop-torque. The propeller will tend to yaw the aircraft to the right. This tendency gets more severe with the RPM of the engine. Scott Actually, shouldn't the propeller yaw the aircraft to the left? I suspect Ron may be having joystick calibrating issues. Ampere ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On December 19, 2005 07:01 pm, scott wrote: Ron Waite wrote: Whenever I start to takeoff, no matter what plane I'm in, it pulls to the right. Sometimes it will go straight for a few seconds then jerk over to the right. Sometimes it will start going right from the beginning, slowly and steadily. Sometimes it will go straight, jerk right, go straight again, jerk right again. And sometimes, moving my joystick to the left doesn't help much. Why is this? Thanks. Is it a propeller driven aircraft? If so, you are probably experiencing prop-torque. The propeller will tend to yaw the aircraft to the right. This tendency gets more severe with the RPM of the engine. Scott Actually, shouldn't the propeller yaw the aircraft to the left? I suspect Ron may be having joystick calibrating issues. Ampere Depends if you are flying in England or not. :-) Seriously, you are correct. You depress the right pedal to correct the yaw to the left. Sorry, it's been a while since I last flown. Scott ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
From: scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:01:38 -0500 Ron Waite wrote: Whenever I start to takeoff, no matter what plane I'm in, it pulls to the right. Sometimes it will go straight for a few seconds then jerk over to the right. Sometimes it will start going right from the beginning, slowly and steadily. Sometimes it will go straight, jerk right, go straight again, jerk right again. And sometimes, moving my joystick to the left doesn't help much. Why is this? Thanks. Is it a propeller driven aircraft? If so, you are probably experiencing prop-torque. The propeller will tend to yaw the aircraft to the right. This tendency gets more severe with the RPM of the engine. Scott ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d I know it's normal on single-prop aircraft, but this is happening in the A-10, T-38, etc. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
I know it's normal on single-prop aircraft, but this is happening in the A-10, T-38, etc. Check that your joystick is aligned properly. Torque and P-factor, etc. will roll/yaw to the left - not the right. It sounds like your joystick is messed up. I don't see these. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Pulling to the Right
If you turn on the HUD by pressing the 'h' key, you can see the control positions. Then you can check to see if any of them (rudder is probably whats steering you) are jumpy when you move the stick. I had a logitech extreme 3D pro joystick with twist rudder control that after a while went pretty bad. The rudder position would jump all over the place whenever I moved the stick. It got progressively worse until it was basically unflyable. The rudder position, BTW, is the horizontal slider at the bottom of the HUD display. -Jeff On 12/19/05, Jon S. Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it's normal on single-prop aircraft, but this is happening in the A-10, T-38, etc. Check that your joystick is aligned properly. Torque and P-factor, etc. will roll/yaw to the left - not the right. It sounds like your joystick is messed up. I don't see these. Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d