Re: [fonc] Scope? [was: The Fanboy Mailing List With No Productivity]
Casey Ransberger wrote: Below. On Apr 13, 2013, at 7:18 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Though... it does raise the question: what is the intended and/or evolved scope of FONC? For the purposes of discussion here, what constitutes "new computing?" Is it: a. VPRI's work b. programming paradigms and languages (for which http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ is really the best forum I've seen) c. computational models and paradigms (e.g, massively concurrent systems, AI) d. leading edge applications e. computing paradigms in the large (e.g., biological computing, quantum computing) e. something else? f. some combination of the above? Kinda hard to tell from the discussions, and http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc is silent on the question. Miles Fidelman Oh come on. If you'd read everything here: http://vpri.org/html/writings.php ...or followed the dialogue much, you wouldn't have to ask this question. Well, no... it doesn't. That's a list of what VPRI is doing - which strikes me as having a VERY limited focus vis-a-vis "fundamentals of new computing" and the list above. The dialogue has, at times wandered a bit beyond that, but does not (to me) strike me as getting either particularly "fundamental" or getting very near the edge of what might be considered "new computing" - as compared to, say, "programming paradigms for quantum computers," or "programming and metaprogramming in the human biocomputer." Hence my question - particularly re. intent of the list sponsor, and evolution (interests of the participants). Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Scope? [was: The Fanboy Mailing List With No Productivity]
Below. On Apr 13, 2013, at 7:18 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ondřej Bílka wrote: >> This is just a trash bin for people who don't want to do anything. The real work is probably on noise-free mailing list. This is the fanboy list for Alan Kay. >> Also cannot resist. >> >> Well if you are not satisfied you can establish new list. Then we will >> have: > > Though... it does raise the question: what is the intended and/or evolved > scope of FONC? For the purposes of discussion here, what constitutes "new > computing?" > > Is it: > a. VPRI's work > b. programming paradigms and languages (for which > http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ is really the best forum I've seen) > c. computational models and paradigms (e.g, massively concurrent systems, AI) > d. leading edge applications > e. computing paradigms in the large (e.g., biological computing, quantum > computing) > e. something else? > f. some combination of the above? > > Kinda hard to tell from the discussions, and > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc is silent on the question. > > Miles Fidelman Oh come on. If you'd read everything here: http://vpri.org/html/writings.php ...or followed the dialogue much, you wouldn't have to ask this question. Your pal, Casey ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
[fonc] Scope? [was: The Fanboy Mailing List With No Productivity]
Ondřej Bílka wrote: This is just a trash bin for people who don't want to do anything. The real work is probably on noise-free mailing list. This is the fanboy list for Alan Kay. Also cannot resist. Well if you are not satisfied you can establish new list. Then we will have: Though... it does raise the question: what is the intended and/or evolved scope of FONC? For the purposes of discussion here, what constitutes "new computing?" Is it: a. VPRI's work b. programming paradigms and languages (for which http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ is really the best forum I've seen) c. computational models and paradigms (e.g, massively concurrent systems, AI) d. leading edge applications e. computing paradigms in the large (e.g., biological computing, quantum computing) e. something else? f. some combination of the above? Kinda hard to tell from the discussions, and http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc is silent on the question. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
