Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-08-01 Thread Vincent Hennebert
On 29/07/11 16:54, Benson Margulies wrote:
 apache-extras is there for non-AL associated stuff.

Indeed, now I remember this announcement that was recently made about
Apache Extras. Seems like the perfect place. Thanks for the reminder,

Vincent


 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On 28/07/11 13:52, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 28.07.2011 13:59:52 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:

 snip/

 I've done extensive test with various fonts.

 This is good to hear. The problem is that those tests are not publicly
 available, so if anyone else makes any changes to the font library, they
 won’t have the possibility to test them and avoid regressions. For this
 reason I think it’s very important to have tests available to everyone.


 I've done that intentionally to indicate
 that the variable is only just used by the following method.

 By putting it at a non-expected place you’re making it difficult to find
 the variable and understand in a quick glance what the class is made of.
 This hampers the readability and maintainability of the code. Given that
 it’s what we spend most of our time on, I find this worrying.

 See? And I did it that way exactly because I wanted to make this more
 readable and understandable. It's just hopeless to even try around you.

 This is great to know that you were trying to make it more readable. In
 this case though, I think putting the variable declaration in the middle
 of methods would do more harm than good, because of the very strongly
 established convention of putting all variables at the beginning of the
 class.


 Your needing to put the variable near to the methods that use it is
 a clear sign that this class is too big and needs to be split into
 smaller entities.

 That's becoming a standard statement of yours.

 I’m puzzled when I read this because this is actually what is being
 recommended in every book, and by every experienced OO developer. So why
 not apply it?

 snip/

 I'll swallow my comment to this and just do the split:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151447view=rev

 When I read this and the sarcastic message associated to the commit, I’m
 concerned about the unwelcoming atmosphere that is being created on this
 mailing list. Can we try and remain civil to each other?

 It was meant to be sarcastic and an expression of my anger.

 I appreciate that you may be angry, how does that justify an aggressive
 tone though?

 We two got
 along in the last few months because we apparently went out of each
 other's way. But that only hides the underlying problem. I cannot turn
 myself magically into the person that can always forsee how you want
 something done. And I'm getting really tired of having the same
 arguments over and over. The only way I can react to this is to retreat
 again. Which is probably what I'll be doing after finishing some of the
 things I promised to a number of people.


 But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
 So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
 all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
 for this?

 No, I cannot. For licensing reasons. I can't upload the font that's
 causing this into the Apache SVN repository. I'd have to artificially
 construct a font that emulates this and I certainly won't try to do that.

 We have the DejaVuLGCSerif font in our tests/resources/fonts directory.
 Surely it must be possible to reproduce the issue with that font. Did
 you have a look at it?

 I'm afraid, both DejaVuLGCSerif and glb12 don't have that particular
 constellation.

 The problem is, as explained above, we need to be able to test the font
 library, and have the tests in a public place. Surely, among all the
 commonly available free fonts, there must be one that shows the problem?

 And if the fonts’ licenses are incompatible with ASL2.0, maybe we can
 set up a project on SourceForge, like for the hyphenation patterns?
 Maybe OFFO itself would be a proper host for that?


 Thanks,
 Vincent



Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-31 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
On 28 Jul 2011, at 14:33, Peter B. West wrote:

 On 28/07/2011, at 9:59 PM, Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 
 By putting it at a non-expected place you’re making it difficult to find
 the variable and understand in a quick glance what the class is made of.
 This hampers the readability and maintainability of the code. Given that
 it’s what we spend most of our time on, I find this worrying.
 
 That is, by assisting the understanding of the use of this variable, you have 
 made it harder to understand in a quick glance.  But in any case...

That is: By putting it at place where I did not expect it, you are making it 
difficult for normal people, like me, to find it --because, well, it is then 
located near to where it is actually used-- and understand in a quick glance 
[...] I find this worrying --and did not care much for _your_ intentions either 
way.

And then, a bit later:

On 29 Jul 2011, at 12:57, Vincent Hennebert wrote:

 I don’t think I was attacking anyone. I realise that there is bad past
 experience about this, but I don’t believe anything similar happened
 here. I’m sorry if my message sounded confrontational.

I did not do anything wrong! Sorry if that was too confrontational. Can we 
play nice again? Can we? Please?

 I suppose I could write a whole chapter about how I am affected by
 unreadable and unmaintainable code in FOP almost on a daily basis; About
 the anger, the frustration, and sometimes the total despair that result
 from this. But I’ll refrain to this paragraph.

I suppose I could write a whole chapter about how I am affected by the awful 
mess you old-timers have left me with. The voices, the nightmares, the 
hair-ripping... but I will remain civil, because I am perfect and never do 
anything wrong. No, really. It's true. Everyone who agrees with me, says so.



Regards,

Andreas
---

Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-29 Thread Vincent Hennebert
On 28/07/11 13:52, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 28.07.2011 13:59:52 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:

snip/

 I've done extensive test with various fonts.

This is good to hear. The problem is that those tests are not publicly
available, so if anyone else makes any changes to the font library, they
won’t have the possibility to test them and avoid regressions. For this
reason I think it’s very important to have tests available to everyone.


 I've done that intentionally to indicate
 that the variable is only just used by the following method.

 By putting it at a non-expected place you’re making it difficult to find
 the variable and understand in a quick glance what the class is made of.
 This hampers the readability and maintainability of the code. Given that
 it’s what we spend most of our time on, I find this worrying.
 
 See? And I did it that way exactly because I wanted to make this more
 readable and understandable. It's just hopeless to even try around you.

This is great to know that you were trying to make it more readable. In
this case though, I think putting the variable declaration in the middle
of methods would do more harm than good, because of the very strongly
established convention of putting all variables at the beginning of the
class.


 Your needing to put the variable near to the methods that use it is
 a clear sign that this class is too big and needs to be split into
 smaller entities.
 
 That's becoming a standard statement of yours.

I’m puzzled when I read this because this is actually what is being
recommended in every book, and by every experienced OO developer. So why
not apply it?

snip/

 I'll swallow my comment to this and just do the split:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151447view=rev

 When I read this and the sarcastic message associated to the commit, I’m
 concerned about the unwelcoming atmosphere that is being created on this
 mailing list. Can we try and remain civil to each other?
 
 It was meant to be sarcastic and an expression of my anger.

I appreciate that you may be angry, how does that justify an aggressive
tone though?

 We two got
 along in the last few months because we apparently went out of each
 other's way. But that only hides the underlying problem. I cannot turn
 myself magically into the person that can always forsee how you want
 something done. And I'm getting really tired of having the same
 arguments over and over. The only way I can react to this is to retreat
 again. Which is probably what I'll be doing after finishing some of the
 things I promised to a number of people.
 

 But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
 So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
 all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
 for this?

 No, I cannot. For licensing reasons. I can't upload the font that's
 causing this into the Apache SVN repository. I'd have to artificially
 construct a font that emulates this and I certainly won't try to do that.

 We have the DejaVuLGCSerif font in our tests/resources/fonts directory.
 Surely it must be possible to reproduce the issue with that font. Did
 you have a look at it?
 
 I'm afraid, both DejaVuLGCSerif and glb12 don't have that particular
 constellation.

The problem is, as explained above, we need to be able to test the font
library, and have the tests in a public place. Surely, among all the
commonly available free fonts, there must be one that shows the problem?

And if the fonts’ licenses are incompatible with ASL2.0, maybe we can
set up a project on SourceForge, like for the hyphenation patterns?
Maybe OFFO itself would be a proper host for that?


Thanks,
Vincent


Re: Stop this infighting [was: Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml]

2011-07-29 Thread Vincent Hennebert
On 28/07/11 13:47, Simon Pepping wrote:
 Stop this infighting, please. We all have our strong and weak points.
 Stop attacking each other on real or perceived weak points. Cooperate
 with each other and complement each other in a positive atmosphere.

I don’t think I was attacking anyone. I realise that there is bad past
experience about this, but I don’t believe anything similar happened
here. I’m sorry if my message sounded confrontational.

If we were sitting next to each other and reviewing each other code
before committing, we would have this very kind of discussion and it
would be totally mundane. I am actually doing that almost every day with
my colleagues and it proves to be very productive and greatly enhances
the quality of the code.

The fact that we are working remotely unfortunately doesn’t allow to do
that, so we have to resort to a less-than-ideal medium which is email.
Shall we try and make the best out of it?


As a project member, one of my responsibilities is to ensure the good
health of the project. And when I see the lack of readability of its
codebase, I am extremely concerned about its viability. The experience
I have accumulated in the past few years has only confirmed my thoughts
and concerns. So I’m trying to do something to change that.

I suppose I could write a whole chapter about how I am affected by
unreadable and unmaintainable code in FOP almost on a daily basis; About
the anger, the frustration, and sometimes the total despair that result
from this. But I’ll refrain to this paragraph.


Thanks,
Vincent


 Simon
 
 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:59:52PM +0100, Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 There is basic housekeeping that ought to be done IMO:

 On 26/07/11 19:28, jeremias wrote:
 Author: jeremias
 Date: Tue Jul 26 18:28:07 2011
 New Revision: 1151195

 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151195view=rev
 Log:
 Fixed a bug in TTF subsetting where a composite glyph could get remapped 
 more than once resulting in garbled character.

 Modified:
 
 xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java
 xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/status.xml



Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-29 Thread Benson Margulies
apache-extras is there for non-AL associated stuff.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 28/07/11 13:52, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 28.07.2011 13:59:52 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:

 snip/

 I've done extensive test with various fonts.

 This is good to hear. The problem is that those tests are not publicly
 available, so if anyone else makes any changes to the font library, they
 won’t have the possibility to test them and avoid regressions. For this
 reason I think it’s very important to have tests available to everyone.


 I've done that intentionally to indicate
 that the variable is only just used by the following method.

 By putting it at a non-expected place you’re making it difficult to find
 the variable and understand in a quick glance what the class is made of.
 This hampers the readability and maintainability of the code. Given that
 it’s what we spend most of our time on, I find this worrying.

 See? And I did it that way exactly because I wanted to make this more
 readable and understandable. It's just hopeless to even try around you.

 This is great to know that you were trying to make it more readable. In
 this case though, I think putting the variable declaration in the middle
 of methods would do more harm than good, because of the very strongly
 established convention of putting all variables at the beginning of the
 class.


 Your needing to put the variable near to the methods that use it is
 a clear sign that this class is too big and needs to be split into
 smaller entities.

 That's becoming a standard statement of yours.

 I’m puzzled when I read this because this is actually what is being
 recommended in every book, and by every experienced OO developer. So why
 not apply it?

 snip/

 I'll swallow my comment to this and just do the split:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151447view=rev

 When I read this and the sarcastic message associated to the commit, I’m
 concerned about the unwelcoming atmosphere that is being created on this
 mailing list. Can we try and remain civil to each other?

 It was meant to be sarcastic and an expression of my anger.

 I appreciate that you may be angry, how does that justify an aggressive
 tone though?

 We two got
 along in the last few months because we apparently went out of each
 other's way. But that only hides the underlying problem. I cannot turn
 myself magically into the person that can always forsee how you want
 something done. And I'm getting really tired of having the same
 arguments over and over. The only way I can react to this is to retreat
 again. Which is probably what I'll be doing after finishing some of the
 things I promised to a number of people.


 But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
 So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
 all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
 for this?

 No, I cannot. For licensing reasons. I can't upload the font that's
 causing this into the Apache SVN repository. I'd have to artificially
 construct a font that emulates this and I certainly won't try to do that.

 We have the DejaVuLGCSerif font in our tests/resources/fonts directory.
 Surely it must be possible to reproduce the issue with that font. Did
 you have a look at it?

 I'm afraid, both DejaVuLGCSerif and glb12 don't have that particular
 constellation.

 The problem is, as explained above, we need to be able to test the font
 library, and have the tests in a public place. Surely, among all the
 commonly available free fonts, there must be one that shows the problem?

 And if the fonts’ licenses are incompatible with ASL2.0, maybe we can
 set up a project on SourceForge, like for the hyphenation patterns?
 Maybe OFFO itself would be a proper host for that?


 Thanks,
 Vincent



Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-29 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Please note that we're not talking about the ASF license policy or even
open source. We're talking about commercial, closed source fonts for
which there are usually no redistribution rights (at least in the
standalone form)! Uploading them to a publicly accessible code
repository would mean illegal reproduction.

As for looking for a free font that shows the same problem: there's a
big chance that you're going to search for days and the search might
still turn out empty. The constellation is very peculiar:

There must be more than one character mapped to the the same glyph
description and that glyph description must be a composite glyph.

On 29.07.2011 17:54:14 Benson Margulies wrote:
 apache-extras is there for non-AL associated stuff.
 
 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
snip/
  The problem is, as explained above, we need to be able to test the font
  library, and have the tests in a public place. Surely, among all the
  commonly available free fonts, there must be one that shows the problem?
 
  And if the fonts’ licenses are incompatible with ASL2.0, maybe we can
  set up a project on SourceForge, like for the hyphenation patterns?
  Maybe OFFO itself would be a proper host for that?



Jeremias Maerki



Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-28 Thread Vincent Hennebert
On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 There is basic housekeeping that ought to be done IMO:

 On 26/07/11 19:28, jeremias wrote:
 Author: jeremias
 Date: Tue Jul 26 18:28:07 2011
 New Revision: 1151195

 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151195view=rev
 Log:
 Fixed a bug in TTF subsetting where a composite glyph could get remapped 
 more than once resulting in garbled character.

 Modified:
 
 xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java
 xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/status.xml

 snip/
  /**
 + * We need to remember which composites were already remapped because 
 the value to be
 + * remapped is being read from the TTF file and being replaced right 
 there. Doing this
 + * twice would create a bad map the second time.
 + */
 +private SetLong remappedComposites = null;

 This should be put at the beginning of the file, along with all field
 declarations. (Also, there’s no need to initialize it to null as it’s
 already done by default.)
 
 So we're back to nitpicking.

I actually find it very worrying that you consider this to be
nitpicking, when any decent book about software programming will
emphasize the importance of producing code that is as clear and readable
as possible. I think it’s urgent to improve the readability of our code
base if we want to attract more contributors. Could we commit to that?

It’s great that you java 1.5-ified parts of the code in that commit (has
it been tested though?), and it would be good if the other changes were
bringing the same improved clarity.


 I've done that intentionally to indicate
 that the variable is only just used by the following method.

By putting it at a non-expected place you’re making it difficult to find
the variable and understand in a quick glance what the class is made of.
This hampers the readability and maintainability of the code. Given that
it’s what we spend most of our time on, I find this worrying.

Your needing to put the variable near to the methods that use it is
a clear sign that this class is too big and needs to be split into
smaller entities.


 And the
 null is only there to emphasize that the variable is lazily assigned
 because the thing is often not even needed.

This is an interesting convention, although I believe it is cancelled out
by the fact that in a vast majority of cases, the initialization is
there just out of ignorance of Java’s default initialization. But that
doesn’t matter too much.


snip/
 +if (remappedComposites.contains(offset)) {
 +return;

 This return introduces another exit point that is hidden at the
 beginning of the method. This is something that one wouldn’t expect and
 makes the method hard to understand and maintain. This method should
 most probably be split into smaller methods.
 
 I'll swallow my comment to this and just do the split:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151447view=rev

When I read this and the sarcastic message associated to the commit, I’m
concerned about the unwelcoming atmosphere that is being created on this
mailing list. Can we try and remain civil to each other?


 But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
 So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
 all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
 for this?
 
 No, I cannot. For licensing reasons. I can't upload the font that's
 causing this into the Apache SVN repository. I'd have to artificially
 construct a font that emulates this and I certainly won't try to do that.

We have the DejaVuLGCSerif font in our tests/resources/fonts directory.
Surely it must be possible to reproduce the issue with that font. Did
you have a look at it?


Thanks,
Vincent


Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-28 Thread Peter B. West
See below
Peter West

How can these things be?

On 28/07/2011, at 9:59 PM, Vincent Hennebert wrote:

 On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 
 So we're back to nitpicking.
 

Oh, absolutely not!

 I actually find it very worrying that you consider this to be
 nitpicking, when any decent book about software programming will

... etc. etc.

 
 
 I've done that intentionally to indicate
 that the variable is only just used by the following method.
 
 By putting it at a non-expected place you’re making it difficult to find
 the variable and understand in a quick glance what the class is made of.
 This hampers the readability and maintainability of the code. Given that
 it’s what we spend most of our time on, I find this worrying.

That is, by assisting the understanding of the use of this variable, you have 
made it harder to understand in a quick glance.  But in any case...
 
 Your needing to put the variable near to the methods that use it is
 a clear sign that this class is too big and needs to be split into
 smaller entities.
 
 
 And the
 null is only there to emphasize that the variable is lazily assigned
 because the thing is often not even needed.
 
 This is an interesting convention, although I believe it is cancelled out
 by the fact that in a vast majority of cases, the initialization is
 there just out of ignorance of Java’s default initialization. But that
 doesn’t matter too much.

That is, you're a dope who doesn't understand Java, unlike some. Come clean, 
Jeremias.

 makes the method hard to understand and maintain. This method should
 most probably be split into smaller methods.
 
 I'll swallow my comment to this and just do the split:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151447view=rev
 
 When I read this and the sarcastic message associated to the commit, I’m
 concerned about the unwelcoming atmosphere that is being created on this
 mailing list. Can we try and remain civil to each other?
 

Vincent is concerned that YOU are creating an unwelcome atmosphere on this 
list. Jeremias, when will you learn?

 
 But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
 So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
 all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
 for this?
 
 No, I cannot. For licensing reasons. I can't upload the font that's
 causing this into the Apache SVN repository. I'd have to artificially
 construct a font that emulates this and I certainly won't try to do that.
 
 We have the DejaVuLGCSerif font in our tests/resources/fonts directory.
 Surely it must be possible to reproduce the issue with that font. Did
 you have a look at it?

Well, DID you? Eh? Eh?

 
 
 Thanks,
 Vincent



Stop this infighting [was: Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml]

2011-07-28 Thread Simon Pepping
Stop this infighting, please. We all have our strong and weak points.
Stop attacking each other on real or perceived weak points. Cooperate
with each other and complement each other in a positive atmosphere.

Simon

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:59:52PM +0100, Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
  On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
  There is basic housekeeping that ought to be done IMO:
 
  On 26/07/11 19:28, jeremias wrote:
  Author: jeremias
  Date: Tue Jul 26 18:28:07 2011
  New Revision: 1151195
 
  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151195view=rev
  Log:
  Fixed a bug in TTF subsetting where a composite glyph could get remapped 
  more than once resulting in garbled character.
 
  Modified:
  
  xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java
  xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/status.xml
 


AW: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-28 Thread Georg Datterl
Popcorn. Coke. Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' 
earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. 
Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar. Tuscany fried bats...

Come back later for fresh stones!

Regards, Georg

See below
Peter West

How can these things be?

On 28/07/2011, at 9:59 PM, Vincent Hennebert wrote:

 On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:

 So we're back to nitpicking.


Oh, absolutely not!

 I actually find it very worrying that you consider this to be
 nitpicking, when any decent book about software programming will

... etc. etc.



 I've done that intentionally to indicate
 that the variable is only just used by the following method.

 By putting it at a non-expected place you're making it difficult to find
 the variable and understand in a quick glance what the class is made of.
 This hampers the readability and maintainability of the code. Given that
 it's what we spend most of our time on, I find this worrying.

That is, by assisting the understanding of the use of this variable, you have 
made it harder to understand in a quick glance.  But in any case...

 Your needing to put the variable near to the methods that use it is
 a clear sign that this class is too big and needs to be split into
 smaller entities.


 And the
 null is only there to emphasize that the variable is lazily assigned
 because the thing is often not even needed.

 This is an interesting convention, although I believe it is cancelled out
 by the fact that in a vast majority of cases, the initialization is
 there just out of ignorance of Java's default initialization. But that
 doesn't matter too much.

That is, you're a dope who doesn't understand Java, unlike some. Come clean, 
Jeremias.

 makes the method hard to understand and maintain. This method should
 most probably be split into smaller methods.

 I'll swallow my comment to this and just do the split:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151447view=rev

 When I read this and the sarcastic message associated to the commit, I'm
 concerned about the unwelcoming atmosphere that is being created on this
 mailing list. Can we try and remain civil to each other?


Vincent is concerned that YOU are creating an unwelcome atmosphere on this 
list. Jeremias, when will you learn?


 But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
 So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
 all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
 for this?

 No, I cannot. For licensing reasons. I can't upload the font that's
 causing this into the Apache SVN repository. I'd have to artificially
 construct a font that emulates this and I certainly won't try to do that.

 We have the DejaVuLGCSerif font in our tests/resources/fonts directory.
 Surely it must be possible to reproduce the issue with that font. Did
 you have a look at it?

Well, DID you? Eh? Eh?



 Thanks,
 Vincent



Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-28 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 28.07.2011 13:59:52 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 On 27/07/11 13:39, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
  On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
  There is basic housekeeping that ought to be done IMO:
 
  On 26/07/11 19:28, jeremias wrote:
  Author: jeremias
  Date: Tue Jul 26 18:28:07 2011
  New Revision: 1151195
 
  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151195view=rev
  Log:
  Fixed a bug in TTF subsetting where a composite glyph could get remapped 
  more than once resulting in garbled character.
 
  Modified:
  
  xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java
  xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/status.xml
 
  snip/
   /**
  + * We need to remember which composites were already remapped 
  because the value to be
  + * remapped is being read from the TTF file and being replaced right 
  there. Doing this
  + * twice would create a bad map the second time.
  + */
  +private SetLong remappedComposites = null;
 
  This should be put at the beginning of the file, along with all field
  declarations. (Also, there’s no need to initialize it to null as it’s
  already done by default.)
  
  So we're back to nitpicking.
 
 I actually find it very worrying that you consider this to be
 nitpicking, when any decent book about software programming will
 emphasize the importance of producing code that is as clear and readable
 as possible. I think it’s urgent to improve the readability of our code
 base if we want to attract more contributors. Could we commit to that?

You know, I've tried VERY hard to do the change in a way so I hope you
would agree with it. It is clear to me by now that it is extremely hard
for anyone to please your expectations. Try to do it one way, you want
it another.

 It’s great that you java 1.5-ified parts of the code in that commit (has
 it been tested though?), and it would be good if the other changes were
 bringing the same improved clarity.

I've done extensive test with various fonts.

 
  I've done that intentionally to indicate
  that the variable is only just used by the following method.
 
 By putting it at a non-expected place you’re making it difficult to find
 the variable and understand in a quick glance what the class is made of.
 This hampers the readability and maintainability of the code. Given that
 it’s what we spend most of our time on, I find this worrying.

See? And I did it that way exactly because I wanted to make this more
readable and understandable. It's just hopeless to even try around you.

 Your needing to put the variable near to the methods that use it is
 a clear sign that this class is too big and needs to be split into
 smaller entities.

That's becoming a standard statement of yours. Not that this approach always
accomplishes the desired result.

 
  And the
  null is only there to emphasize that the variable is lazily assigned
  because the thing is often not even needed.
 
 This is an interesting convention, although I believe it is cancelled out
 by the fact that in a vast majority of cases, the initialization is
 there just out of ignorance of Java’s default initialization. But that
 doesn’t matter too much.
 
 
 snip/
  +if (remappedComposites.contains(offset)) {
  +return;
 
  This return introduces another exit point that is hidden at the
  beginning of the method. This is something that one wouldn’t expect and
  makes the method hard to understand and maintain. This method should
  most probably be split into smaller methods.
  
  I'll swallow my comment to this and just do the split:
  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151447view=rev
 
 When I read this and the sarcastic message associated to the commit, I’m
 concerned about the unwelcoming atmosphere that is being created on this
 mailing list. Can we try and remain civil to each other?

It was meant to be sarcastic and an expression of my anger. We two got
along in the last few months because we apparently went out of each
other's way. But that only hides the underlying problem. I cannot turn
myself magically into the person that can always forsee how you want
something done. And I'm getting really tired of having the same
arguments over and over. The only way I can react to this is to retreat
again. Which is probably what I'll be doing after finishing some of the
things I promised to a number of people.

 
  But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
  So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
  all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
  for this?
  
  No, I cannot. For licensing reasons. I can't upload the font that's
  causing this into the Apache SVN repository. I'd have to artificially
  construct a font that emulates this and I certainly won't try to do that.
 
 We have the DejaVuLGCSerif font in our tests/resources/fonts directory.
 Surely it must be possible to reproduce the issue with that font. Did
 you have a look at it?

Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-27 Thread Vincent Hennebert
There is basic housekeeping that ought to be done IMO:

On 26/07/11 19:28, jeremias wrote:
 Author: jeremias
 Date: Tue Jul 26 18:28:07 2011
 New Revision: 1151195
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151195view=rev
 Log:
 Fixed a bug in TTF subsetting where a composite glyph could get remapped more 
 than once resulting in garbled character.
 
 Modified:
 
 xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java
 xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/status.xml
 
snip/
  /**
 + * We need to remember which composites were already remapped because 
 the value to be
 + * remapped is being read from the TTF file and being replaced right 
 there. Doing this
 + * twice would create a bad map the second time.
 + */
 +private SetLong remappedComposites = null;

This should be put at the beginning of the file, along with all field
declarations. (Also, there’s no need to initialize it to null as it’s
already done by default.)


 +
 +/**
   * Rewrite all compositepointers in glyphindex glyphIdx
 - *
   */
 -private void remapComposite(FontFileReader in, Map glyphs,
 -int glyphOffset,
 +private void remapComposite(FontFileReader in, MapInteger, Integer 
 glyphs,
 +long glyphOffset,
  Integer glyphIdx) throws IOException {
 -int offset = glyphOffset + 
 (int)mtxTab[glyphIdx.intValue()].getOffset()
 - + 10;
 +if (remappedComposites == null) {
 +remappedComposites = new java.util.HashSetLong();
 +}
 +TTFMtxEntry mtxEntry = mtxTab[glyphIdx.intValue()];
 +long offset = glyphOffset + mtxEntry.getOffset() + 10;
 +if (remappedComposites.contains(offset)) {
 +return;

This return introduces another exit point that is hidden at the
beginning of the method. This is something that one wouldn’t expect and
makes the method hard to understand and maintain. This method should
most probably be split into smaller methods.


But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
for this?


Thanks,
Vincent


Re: svn commit: r1151195 - in /xmlgraphics/fop/trunk: src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java status.xml

2011-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 27.07.2011 12:09:58 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
 There is basic housekeeping that ought to be done IMO:
 
 On 26/07/11 19:28, jeremias wrote:
  Author: jeremias
  Date: Tue Jul 26 18:28:07 2011
  New Revision: 1151195
  
  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151195view=rev
  Log:
  Fixed a bug in TTF subsetting where a composite glyph could get remapped 
  more than once resulting in garbled character.
  
  Modified:
  
  xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/src/java/org/apache/fop/fonts/truetype/TTFSubSetFile.java
  xmlgraphics/fop/trunk/status.xml
  
 snip/
   /**
  + * We need to remember which composites were already remapped because 
  the value to be
  + * remapped is being read from the TTF file and being replaced right 
  there. Doing this
  + * twice would create a bad map the second time.
  + */
  +private SetLong remappedComposites = null;
 
 This should be put at the beginning of the file, along with all field
 declarations. (Also, there’s no need to initialize it to null as it’s
 already done by default.)

So we're back to nitpicking. I've done that intentionally to indicate
that the variable is only just used by the following method. And the
null is only there to emphasize that the variable is lazily assigned
because the thing is often not even needed.

 
  +
  +/**
* Rewrite all compositepointers in glyphindex glyphIdx
  - *
*/
  -private void remapComposite(FontFileReader in, Map glyphs,
  -int glyphOffset,
  +private void remapComposite(FontFileReader in, MapInteger, Integer 
  glyphs,
  +long glyphOffset,
   Integer glyphIdx) throws IOException {
  -int offset = glyphOffset + 
  (int)mtxTab[glyphIdx.intValue()].getOffset()
  - + 10;
  +if (remappedComposites == null) {
  +remappedComposites = new java.util.HashSetLong();
  +}
  +TTFMtxEntry mtxEntry = mtxTab[glyphIdx.intValue()];
  +long offset = glyphOffset + mtxEntry.getOffset() + 10;
  +if (remappedComposites.contains(offset)) {
  +return;
 
 This return introduces another exit point that is hidden at the
 beginning of the method. This is something that one wouldn’t expect and
 makes the method hard to understand and maintain. This method should
 most probably be split into smaller methods.

I'll swallow my comment to this and just do the split:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1151447view=rev

 But more importantly, there is no unit test that comes with this commit.
 So there is no reason to believe that the problem is fixed and, most of
 all, will not happen again in the future. Can you please add a unit test
 for this?

No, I cannot. For licensing reasons. I can't upload the font that's
causing this into the Apache SVN repository. I'd have to artificially
construct a font that emulates this and I certainly won't try to do that.


Jeremias Maerki